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      Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Jun 23, 2019 09:35:32 am
      This little fellas name keeps popping into my head when I think about new summer signings,  so I think we should have a debate on whether we should bring him back or let the ship sail on ,

      I honestly can't make up my mind so I'm throwing it out there to see what you guys Really think....

      We all know how good a player he is, was or can be, and his stint at Barcelona hasn't really prospered as he clearly wanted it to,

      So I guess the question should be....is he too good a player for us NOT to go in for considering his qualities,  how he played with us before, fits into a Klopp system and adding further depth  ?

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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #1: Jun 23, 2019 09:46:36 am
      It's a no for me for that pathetic excuse he made for not playing (back injury)

      We have looked a better and more balanced team since he left. We do not miss him.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #2: Jun 23, 2019 09:47:11 am
      This little fellas name keeps popping into my head when I think about new summer signings,  so I think we should have a debate on whether we should bring him back or let the ship sail on ,

      I honestly can't make up my mind so I'm throwing it out there to see what you guys Really think....

      We all know how good a player he is, was or can be, and his stint at Barcelona hasn't really prospered as he clearly wanted it to,

      So I guess the question should be....is he too good a player for us NOT to go in for considering his qualities,  how he played with us before, fits into a Klopp system and adding further depth  ?

       xxxxx:action-smiley-065:




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      I think we saw when he left that we really didn't miss him that much. Yes when he was good he was very very good but far to often he used to go missing in games and his defensive work was always lacking and that is a key part of the Klopp system that everyone defends as a unit.
      In summary I'm not that interested in bringing him back.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #3: Jun 23, 2019 10:36:58 am
      I don't think we can afford to have him back,I say that not in a monetary term but in a attitude term.
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      Reply #4: Jun 23, 2019 10:51:30 am
      I don’t want him back. Left us to win more things. Now that we won the CL he wants to join us to win even more things.

      It’s cheaper for us to send him a full set of replica medals from UEFA and all leagues for the next five years than to sign him for another five.
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      Reply #5: Jun 23, 2019 11:09:26 am
      I loved the lad while he was with us.
      I was really disappointed with the way he moved on, I though it was disrespectful and immature.

      Would I have him back?
      I'd like to say yes but that's my heart, and my head is saying his attitude won't have grown with the rest of the lads' attitudes, his tendency to sulk if things aren't going his way won't help, he hasn't been missed in terms of team shape and play (in fact things have improved), he shoots when keeping/passing the ball would be the better option, and he just doesn't seem to be a Klopp type of player. 

      So its a no from me.

      I'd be amazed if Jürgen would entertain the idea, to be honest, after the way he dismissed Sakho, etc.

      Just hope he doesn't end up one of our League rivals, that would be sad.

      However, if he does come back he will be able to tell our lads that the grass isn't always greener on the Iberian peninsular!

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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #6: Jun 23, 2019 11:11:35 am
      Has he said he wants to come back? 
      Have I missed something?
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #7: Jun 23, 2019 11:39:52 am
      Yes, if he is under £50m and takes lesser wages than what he is earning now.
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      Reply #8: Jun 23, 2019 11:44:49 am
      Has he said he wants to come back? 
      Have I missed something?


      No don’t think so mate, but like you said it would be strange to see him with another prem club, PSG are reported to be interested and with Neymar ‘the Dive’ said to be moving on, Paris could be his next destination,

      I must say tho, your initial response to my question has given me a different light on his potential return, I too didn’t like how he left, nor the supposed shenanigans of feigning injury, moaning etc prior to him putting in his transfer request,
      Klopp is full on when players don’t sing from the same song sheet so in that respect the Coutinho return is most doubtful, however, never say never in this game and like I said, quality is high in this case and well, you never know....



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      Reply #9: Mar 17, 2020 02:33:59 am
      We don't need Coutinho back. We just got a better team after he left.
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      Reply #10: Mar 17, 2020 03:51:31 pm
      Yes for me if price is right.

      Will add quality and teams play a different way against us now.
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      Reply #11: Mar 17, 2020 04:35:07 pm
      Yes for me if price is right.

      And he's not quarantined in Germany!!
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #12: Mar 17, 2020 05:44:13 pm
      Slow news day?
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #13: Mar 18, 2020 07:48:56 pm

       :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

      Sure is. Beats having the coronavirus slammed down my throat every second of the day.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #14: Mar 19, 2020 04:58:38 pm
      Phillipe who ??
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      Reply #15: Mar 19, 2020 07:38:56 pm
      Nope
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #16: Mar 20, 2020 08:19:28 am
      If the price is right, I'd take him back, but I think there are probably better options out there.
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      Reply #17: Mar 21, 2020 03:23:07 am
      We improved as a team without him. Became far more resilient and dynamic BUT we do have those games where we need a little spark of magic.
      We are missing that kind of player.
      Perhaps to come back to us as an option B isn’t a terrible idea.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #18: Mar 26, 2020 05:02:41 pm
      I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
      Would improve our team and that's all I want from signings now
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      Reply #19: Mar 26, 2020 05:04:10 pm
      I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
      Would improve our team and that's all I want from signings now
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      Reply #20: Mar 26, 2020 05:04:46 pm
      I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
      Would improve our team and that's all I want from signings now

      Dont get football then? It ok not as many as they think they either
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #21: Mar 26, 2020 05:06:29 pm
      Dont get football then? It ok not as many as they think they either
      Explain how having the option of playing a 4-2-3-1 as well as a 4-3-3 isn't improving a team?
      He would be our most creative player.
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      Reply #22: Mar 26, 2020 06:12:59 pm
      Explain how having the option of playing a 4-2-3-1 as well as a 4-3-3 isn't improving a team?
      He would be our most creative player.

      Talk to Jürgen yeah?
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      Reply #23: Mar 26, 2020 07:04:23 pm
      He would be our most creative player.

      He was our most creative player, then he had a sore back and wanted to f**k off to Barca!

      I can't see us buying him back, especially as all the talk seems to be of either Sancho or Werner.
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      Reply #24: Apr 27, 2020 01:09:03 pm
      This morning's media reporting we have refused an approach by his agent to come back.

      WTF ?

      I dont forget the way people leave this club ...... some as legends some as lice.

      (Owen another one.)

      Couthino ? He couldn't wait  to get away even feigning "back ache" so he wouldn't get an injury.

      No one is saying that ambition is bad but the manner he did it left a sour taste.

      The sweetener ?   We got Allison and Virgil .


      So long Coutinho ...  and thanks for all the fish. (HHGTTG)


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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #25: Apr 28, 2020 10:04:20 am
      I'm in the minority, I've always said I'd have him back, BUT that said just like Owen he was our star who thought the grass was greener and then would've given anything to come back so I don't have any sympathy for him, same with Can but I didn't like him anyway..
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho
      Reply #26: Apr 28, 2020 11:51:44 am
      I'm in the minority, I've always said I'd have him back, BUT that said just like Owen he was our star who thought the grass was greener and then would've given anything to come back so I don't have any sympathy for him, same with Can but I didn't like him anyway..

      Coutinho and Can, two players that thought they could go on to bigger and better things but have both been shifted about since whilst we’ve gotten significantly better without them.

      No loss, neither are welcome back and both would be a step backwards.
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      Reply #27: Apr 29, 2020 11:04:06 am
      Coutinho and Can, two players that thought they could go on to bigger and better things but have both been shifted about since whilst we’ve gotten significantly better without them.

      No loss, neither are welcome back and both would be a step backwards.

      I agree. Whilst you could understand their motivation to leave, they probably wish that they would've stayed. Can, I wouldn't sign him back if I were Klopp as he'll probably be worse that what he already was (not to say he was bad at Liverpool). Coutinho, no way. Not in a million years. €116,280,000 up front and you've got to deliver. He didn't and went out on loan to Bayern. Maybe if he'd at least convinced barca to keep via his performances than maybe consider it but as it stands, not a chance.
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      Reply #28: Apr 29, 2020 11:06:08 am
      It’s probably just his agent trying to get him a better deal. If Klopp wanted either of then back, then sure, but I don’t think either is wanted or needed.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcalona)
      Reply #29: Apr 29, 2020 07:08:33 pm
      No way he comes back

      If the Newcastle takeover happens he'll end up there

      Or sweeping up on Saturdays at Sports Direct.
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      Reply #30: May 02, 2020 11:30:52 am
      A lot of water has flown under the bridge since opening this thread, general consensus is, no we don’t need him or we have played better without, no argument from me on both counts to be honest, however we do need to add more creativity than we have, so here’s another wee poser to ponder.....


      It’s been well documented that Timo Werner would be a quality acquisition, and he would be, no doubt, but what impact would that have on our current trio up top ?

      For me adding Werner could prove yet another master stroke from Jürgen, it would be another piece of the jigsaw completed, feast your eyes on this potential side, a X1 that would defend our title and take us onto No 20.....

                                                                Alisson

                                            Trent.     Gomez.   Virgil.     Robbo
           
                                                      Hendo          Fabinho

                                                                 Bobby

                                                 Salah.       Werner         Mane

                   Subs;
                                 Adrian,  Milner,  Gini, Ox, Keita, Jones, Origi


      With plenty of variation from the bench, especially in midfield, it’s a f***in good set up, obviously we have more we can opt for in the squad like Matip, Lovren, Neco, Wilson, Eliot et al,

      So what dya think lads & ladettes....Bobby the creator ?



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      Reply #31: May 02, 2020 12:24:40 pm
      That would be better in the Werner thread, I think - https://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,51397.0.html.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcalona)
      Reply #32: May 02, 2020 01:47:21 pm
      It ain't happening
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      Reply #33: May 02, 2020 03:30:20 pm




      You seem so sure HR, care to elaborate?


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      Reply #34: May 02, 2020 07:34:54 pm

      If you're talking about Werner, then I disagree. It's all about wether we could get the deal over the line. He wants it to happen, many Liverpool fans want it to happen. However, due to the coronavirus, we may not want to risk using £52 million. We'll never know if we can pull off the deal until lockdown ends and fans are allowed in the stadium.
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      Reply #35: May 02, 2020 07:53:05 pm



      You seem so sure HR, care to elaborate?


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      Echo had a small piece the other week when we were linked in national press saying we weren't looking at him.
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      Reply #36: May 02, 2020 07:54:28 pm
      If you're talking about Werner, then I disagree. It's all about wether we could get the deal over the line. He wants it to happen, many Liverpool fans want it to happen. However, due to the coronavirus, we may not want to risk using £52 million. We'll never know if we can pull off the deal until lockdown ends and fans are allowed in the stadium.

      Thread is about backache boy, don't know what acid your dropping to work out we're talking about Werner.
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      Reply #37: May 03, 2020 10:54:00 am
      Thread is about backache boy, don't know what acid your dropping to work out we're talking about Werner.




      Yeah, my bad, apologies for the original thread becoming a Werner come and get me one !





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      Reply #38: May 03, 2020 10:51:24 pm
      Thread is about backache boy, don't know what acid your dropping to work out we're talking about Werner.

      Why do people always blame it on drugs, like they're a bad thing?  :D :D
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      Reply #39: May 04, 2020 11:34:39 pm
      Why do people always blame it on drugs, like they're a bad thing?  :D :D

      Cos I was already stoned, so wondering what other more powerful sh*t was needed :laugh:
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      Reply #40: May 05, 2020 01:28:37 am
      Cos I was already stoned, so wondering what other more powerful sh*t was needed :laugh:

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Me too  :D :D xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #41: May 08, 2020 12:45:34 pm
      Why do people always blame it on drugs, like they're a bad thing?  :D :D

                                              ;D

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      Reply #42: May 12, 2020 08:23:15 pm
      I think it would be a huge mistake to let Coutinho go to another Premier League club. He'll probably be in the bracket of really great players with De Bruyne, our front 3, Aguero, Kane and Son...

      I don't think we're desperate for him but he is the kind of player we need. One who can play in the front 3 and/or add creativity in midfield. Our midfield still does not contribute enough in terms of goals. Keita still needs to find his feet and Chamberlain has not played regularly enough. Having Coutinho is adding options to our squad, he's much more versatile than our other midfielders and probabl much better than anyone of them.

      That's my opinion. Also, he might cost much more than other solutions we've heard about lateley (Werner, Aouar... ) but he's a safe bet and is worth the money.
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      Reply #43: May 13, 2020 01:07:02 am
      I think it would be a huge mistake to let Coutinho go to another Premier League club. He'll probably be in the bracket of really great players with De Bruyne, our front 3, Aguero, Kane and Son...

      I don't think we're desperate for him but he is the kind of player we need. One who can play in the front 3 and/or add creativity in midfield. Our midfield still does not contribute enough in terms of goals. Keita still needs to find his feet and Chamberlain has not played regularly enough. Having Coutinho is adding options to our squad, he's much more versatile than our other midfielders and probabl much better than anyone of them.

      That's my opinion. Also, he might cost much more than other solutions we've heard about lateley (Werner, Aouar... ) but he's a safe bet and is worth the money.

      Not to mention Bobby, Fab and Alisson might love having him back too. I can't have him back personally, but it's not about me, it's about the Team, so I hear where you coming from mate.
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      Reply #44: Jun 11, 2020 02:08:43 pm
      Talk of them letting him go for less than 50m.

      I'd take him on loan and see how it goes. Think we would be wrong not to look at him. We know what a magician he is ... he is a match winner and you can never have too many of those.

      If he is desperate to come back here and Barca want rid, that could play well for us in terms of the fee. Would hate to see him at a rival.

      Bring him home ....
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      Reply #45: Jun 11, 2020 02:16:23 pm
      I am swayed by the opinion that he could be of some use to the side, obviously would not be an automatic choice. Although what a good asset Coutinho could be to this fine squad of players under Jürgen Klopp.
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      Reply #46: Jun 11, 2020 02:49:19 pm
      Would hate to see him at a rival.

      Would hate to see him back at Liverpool more.
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      Reply #47: Jun 11, 2020 04:24:24 pm
      Would hate to see him back at Liverpool more.

      Fair enough ken. I accept and totally understand your pov.

       If the price was right I would have him back. He could help us stay at the top ... wouldn't need to settle in and has the sprinkle of magical stardust we lack outside of our front 3. He is world class.

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      Reply #48: Jun 11, 2020 05:30:36 pm
      Fair enough ken. I accept and totally understand your pov.

       If the price was right I would have him back. He could help us stay at the top ... wouldn't need to settle in and has the sprinkle of magical stardust we lack outside of our front 3. He is world class.

      He's not world class.
      He has the odd world class moment.
      Apart from that, he's very much a luxury player.

      He thought the grass was greener at Barcelona, well he can keep f**king chewing on it. It might help with faked back injuries.
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      Reply #49: Jun 11, 2020 05:33:33 pm

      ?

      How come Barca and Bayern don't want him?

      Barca have apparently slashed the value of him down to £45 million.


      https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/10/chelsea-barcelona-slash-philippe-coutinho-asking-price-player-exchange-12831528/

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      Reply #50: Jun 12, 2020 12:36:34 am
      Nah...
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      Reply #51: Jun 12, 2020 01:12:09 am
      Klopp will never take him back.

      And he's spot on.
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      Reply #52: Jun 12, 2020 01:11:02 pm
      Hahaha us robbing them blind and corner taken quickly are two things Barca definitely didn't see coming!!
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      Reply #53: Jun 12, 2020 02:05:22 pm
      We would have to want him here and he would want to be here, if both of those aren't met then it's not happening and I don't think either of them are.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #54: Jun 12, 2020 08:38:30 pm
      Would have him back in a heartbeat
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #55: Jun 13, 2020 10:29:17 am
      Never have him back. Pushed for a transfer, faking back injuries. In my opinion, disrespected all of us. He’s had his fingers well and truly burn’t. The grass is very rarely greener. Good luck at Newcastle or wherever he ends up. Silly lad.
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      Reply #56: Jun 13, 2020 11:01:11 am
      Id take him back, hes had a tough time since he moved. But hes still class.

      Not sure where he would fit into our current system though, but never hurts to have quality players around who can score worldies.

      I dont think we can afford his wages now, so its probably a non starter anyway.
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      Reply #57: Jun 13, 2020 11:10:48 am
      Wouldn't have him back at all. We have been a more balanced team without him. Him and Suarez used the club as stepping stones, how the f--k dare they.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #58: Jun 13, 2020 11:25:34 am
      We have been a much better team since he left. thats probably more to do with a certain CB & Goalie joining. ;-)

      Really dont hold an anger or grudge any player who decides they want to leave.

      Too much anger and hate in this world already.

      Peace n love fellow reds.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #59: Jun 13, 2020 11:33:29 am
      Id have him back on the basis that he has a point to prove to us fans in terms of seeking forgiveness and rediscovering his form plus the fact that he has one of the best curled shots into the top corner that I've ever had the pleasure of seeing. He is a luxury player but what an impact he could make coming off the bench or as an option for Mane or Salah in rotation.

      Everyone deserves a second chance, yes the way he left was silly, but before that he had always been a model professional and valuable member of the squad.
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      Reply #60: Jun 13, 2020 11:46:19 am
      I think the team has evolved since he has left, player's are taking more responsibility. A lot of our play centred on Coutinho and teams were becoming aware of it. I would rather have a player come in with bags of pace to add a new dimension to the team when needed. Hoping for big things from the ox and kieta.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #61: Jun 13, 2020 12:16:21 pm
      I'd have him back if Klopp wanted him back and he was willing to apologize for acting like a c**t.  I don't think we need him at present, but if Klopp thought it was the right move then I'd get behind it. 
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      Reply #62: Jun 13, 2020 01:25:39 pm
      This Ship has sailed
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      Reply #63: Jun 13, 2020 09:01:34 pm
      Delete this thread move on the Echo's fifty articles a week is more than enough for us to read, just seeing his name causes me to roll me eyes 👀.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #64: Jun 14, 2020 01:41:10 pm
       I think I'd have him back :f_run:
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      Reply #65: Jun 14, 2020 04:07:49 pm
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #66: Jun 14, 2020 05:09:14 pm
      It’s a no from me. Let him be the example to the rest that the grass isn’t greener in Spain.
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      Reply #67: Jun 14, 2020 05:34:12 pm
      Delete this thread move on the Echo's fifty articles a week is more than enough for us to read, just seeing his name causes me to roll me eyes 👀.

      Yeah, I don’t see the point of this thread, it’s basically just the same posts where some want him back, some don’t and some aren’t bothered either way.
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      Reply #68: Jun 14, 2020 05:48:35 pm

      And now resurfaced it seems
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #69: Jun 14, 2020 07:52:19 pm
      If he fit it would make sense. If he wants to be here I could get over all the other stuff. Him leaving worked out for us and not him, so him on the cheap is cool by me.

      However, he just doesn't fit. He shines as number 10 and our system really doesn't have that role. I don't really like him on the wing......
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #70: Jun 14, 2020 08:54:58 pm
      Out of curiosity, nothing more. Where would he even play?

      Midfield is stacked with Fab, Hendo, Wijnaldum, Keita, Ox, Milner. That’s before you even take into account the likes of Minamino, Shaq, Origi and maybe even Jones.

      The front 3 isn’t changing. We’ve lost Can from when Coutinho was at the club but I think that’s it, whilst an extra 4 have been signed in the midfield/attack since.

      The only player who may possibly leave is Shaqiri, but even then there is very little room for Coutinho. He’d still command a relatively high fee and his wages will still be right up there among the highest.

      The only possible way I can see for him coming into the team is if Milner is used purely as a bit part and cover player and another 2 are moved on. Likely Shaqiri and given the contract situation Gini, but Gini is a player I don’t think Klopp would want to sacrifice to make the return happen.

      Whether you want him back, don’t want him back or on the fence, there’s not really a place for him in this team.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #71: Jun 14, 2020 09:16:00 pm
      He can stay fu**ed off.
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      Reply #72: Jun 14, 2020 09:27:58 pm
      I hope there is no truth in re signing Phil & I hope this has nothing to do with us not Pursuing Timo..
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      Reply #73: Jun 14, 2020 09:57:10 pm
      I hope there is no truth in re signing Phil & I hope this has nothing to do with us not Pursuing Timo..

      Are there actually credible reports of this Shabs? (I don't read much transfer news anymore)
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      Reply #74: Jun 14, 2020 10:02:23 pm
      Are there actually credible reports of this Shabs? (I don't read much transfer news anymore)

      No mate just standard tabloid sh*t... Phil had his time, he engineered his move for bigger & better things & Klopp did warn him...

      Move on...
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      Reply #75: Jun 14, 2020 10:28:34 pm
      No mate just standard tabloid sh*t... Phil had his time, he engineered his move for bigger & better things & Klopp did warn him...

      Move on...

      I went out and did some digging...apparently there was a rumor (refuted by Simon Hughes) that Phil contacted Klopp and begged to take him back, supposedly saying he'd take a pay cut and a spot on the bench.

      Don't buy it personally, and even if he said that, I don't think there's any way we'd pay a transfer fee or his wages on loan even.....
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      Reply #76: Jun 14, 2020 11:00:11 pm
      I went out and did some digging...apparently there was a rumor (refuted by Simon Hughes) that Phil contacted Klopp and begged to take him back, supposedly saying he'd take a pay cut and a spot on the bench.

      Don't buy it personally, and even if he said that, I don't think there's any way we'd pay a transfer fee or his wages on loan even.....

      MJ is on point about Phil..,

      https://twitter.com/ryan3levis/status/1272138244226981899?s=21
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      Reply #77: Jun 14, 2020 11:25:26 pm
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      Reply #78: Jun 15, 2020 01:57:30 am
      Id take Phil back with a few pegs knocked off his ego. Would wait to see the situation with De Bruyne beforehand though; regardless of finances, would guarantee the league for the foreseeable future.
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      Reply #79: Jun 15, 2020 09:33:10 am
      Id take Phil back with a few pegs knocked off his ego. Would wait to see the situation with De Bruyne beforehand though; regardless of finances, would guarantee the league for the foreseeable future.

      What does De Bruyne have to do with it?

      You're not suggesting he would join us surely?
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      Reply #80: Jun 15, 2020 10:12:24 am
      Phil would make a great alternative to Bobby, but he'd have to up his work rate.
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      Reply #81: Jun 16, 2020 03:11:12 pm
      Phil would make a great alternative to Bobby, but he'd have to up his work rate.

      Do we still need a stretcher to accommodate his bad back?
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #82: Jun 16, 2020 03:35:58 pm
      I honestly don't think he can be accomodated in the team.  I couldn't drop a first team player for him and I just don't think he grafts as much as anyone in the front three or the middle.

      I get the whole squad narrative but I think you could argue Emre Can as a replacement for Adam Lallana in the squad would fit better than Coutinho would.  Who's Coutinho replacing? Shaqiri?
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #83: Jun 16, 2020 03:36:48 pm
      Find it a bit difficult to justify him returning, whether he will or not remains to be seen ?  Considering he seemingly could not wait to leave the club. What has changed so much ?
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      Reply #84: Jun 16, 2020 04:03:30 pm
      No! Just looking at his face annoys me now. Made your bed. See ya!
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      Reply #85: Jun 16, 2020 04:05:38 pm
      I honestly don't think he can be accomodated in the team.  I couldn't drop a first team player for him and I just don't think he grafts as much as anyone in the front three or the middle.

      I get the whole squad narrative but I think you could argue Emre Can as a replacement for Adam Lallana in the squad would fit better than Coutinho would.  Who's Coutinho replacing? Shaqiri?

      I'm not sure he replaces one of our front three, but I can see him as a good option in those games where we need a bit more creativity to unlock stubborn defences.
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      Reply #86: Jun 16, 2020 04:10:38 pm
      I'm not sure he replaces one of our front three, but I can see him as a good option in those games where we need a bit more creativity to unlock stubborn defences.

      Won't happen in a million years.

      Anyway our style of play ensures we always create chances no matter how stubborn the defence.

      This is why I hoped we would sign Werner as he is a natural goal scorer.

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