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      Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)

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      Keith Singleton
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      Reply #125: Jun 01, 2021 10:25:27 am
      Spot on Ian.
      There is some chat in Spanish media about Barca proposing a return to LFC for Coutinho in lieu of fees owed from his 2018 transfer.

      F**k sake don't be telling him he was right, we will never hear the last of it.  ;D
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      Reply #126: Jun 01, 2021 10:29:03 am
      F**k sake don't be telling him he was right, we will never hear the last of it.  ;D

      Me Aussie mate is always right, even when he’s pissed/stoned and I’m pissed/stoned.
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      Reply #127: Jun 01, 2021 10:34:15 am
      Me Aussie mate is always right, even when he’s pissed/stoned and I’m pissed/stoned.


      I'm going to have to join this club. Aussie red send me some of that  :cool-smiley-027: over  :D
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #128: Jun 01, 2021 11:03:21 am
      To be fair, I think we have enough players who are 28+.

      If we’re going to invest decent money, it should be on younger players now.

      We have a nice blend of senior (Salah, Mane, Firmino, Thiago, Henderson, VVD, etc) and younger (Jota, TAA, Konate, Jones, etc)

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      Reply #129: Jun 01, 2021 11:20:12 am
      To be fair, I think we have enough players who are 28+.

      If we’re going to invest decent money, it should be on younger players now.

      We have a nice blend of senior (Salah, Mane, Firmino, Thiago, Henderson, VVD, etc) and younger (Jota, TAA, Konate, Jones, etc)


      From a purely financial aspect Coutinho's return makes sense - Barca are notorious mingebags and the fact that we are still owed £50m from a 2018 deal whatever the contractual details, bears the premise out.
      If we got 5 years out of him at a moderate wage ceiling and he could recapture that old magic it would certainly be a good deal.

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      Reply #130: Jun 01, 2021 11:22:26 am
      To be fair, I think we have enough players who are 28+.

      If we’re going to invest decent money, it should be on younger players now.

      We have a nice blend of senior (Salah, Mane, Firmino, Thiago, Henderson, VVD, etc) and younger (Jota, TAA, Konate, Jones, etc)

      Agree 100%
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      Reply #131: Jun 01, 2021 11:31:56 am
      From a purely financial aspect Coutinho's return makes sense - Barca are notorious mingebags and the fact that we are still owed £50m from a 2018 deal whatever the contractual details, bears the premise out.
      If we got 5 years out of him at a moderate wage ceiling and he could recapture that old magic it would certainly be a good deal.



      We’re not owed 50m.

      We have been paid in full but it’s easy clickbait every transfer window.
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      Re: Phillipe Coutinho (Barcelona)
      Reply #132: Jun 01, 2021 11:32:20 am
      From a purely financial aspect Coutinho's return makes sense - Barca are notorious mingebags and the fact that we are still owed £50m from a 2018 deal whatever the contractual details, bears the premise out.
      If we got 5 years out of him at a moderate wage ceiling and he could recapture that old magic it would certainly be a good deal.


      We aren’t owed the money anymore


      As mentioned by others the debt was sold to a third party who provided us the funds


      Barcelona still need to pay the money so ultimately we would have to pay money for him


      This is also a player who did everything he could to leave the club - he disrespected the manager , the club and his teammates

      Why would anyone entertain him coming back - regardless of how poor he has been over the past 4 years.
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      Reply #133: Jun 01, 2021 11:33:16 am
      From a purely financial aspect Coutinho's return makes sense - Barca are notorious mingebags and the fact that we are still owed £50m from a 2018 deal whatever the contractual details, bears the premise out.
      If we got 5 years out of him at a moderate wage ceiling and he could recapture that old magic it would certainly be a good deal.



      50 million? I've heard 25 and 30 also. What requirements didn't he meet in order to still owe the club money  mate?
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      Reply #134: Jun 01, 2021 12:27:19 pm
      50 million? I've heard 25 and 30 also. What requirements didn't he meet in order to still owe the club money  mate?

      It was a contractual stipulation with £40m of the fee to be paid when he was re-sold to another club.

      https://talksport.com/football/888820/barcelona-philippe-coutinho-return-liverpool-transfer-debt/

      LFC is still owed dosh according to several media sources and contrary to some claims on this forum.
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      Reply #135: Jun 01, 2021 12:37:44 pm
      If theres a deal to made that suits all parties, why not?

      Folk are alway saying we cant ever have enough good players, wee man is still class on his day.
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      Reply #136: Jun 01, 2021 12:50:09 pm
      There are no football or financial reasons for re-signing Philippe Coutinho.

      He is LFC history.

      Whatever some Spanish internet gobshites might say, there is no buyback clause that says if we email Barcelona on a Wednesday afternoon between 3 and 4pm we can get him back for nothing and claim £50m cashback and also get 2 tickets for a free draw to win a giant teddy bear.
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      Reply #137: Jun 01, 2021 12:54:12 pm
      It was a contractual stipulation with £40m of the fee to be paid when he was re-sold to another club.

      https://talksport.com/football/888820/barcelona-philippe-coutinho-return-liverpool-transfer-debt/

      LFC is still owed dosh according to several media sources and contrary to some claims on this forum.

      Wow that's astonishing, the snakes ( owners) hands maybe tired then and end up having him back if Klopp excepts him? Would Klopp get a say in the matter?
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      Reply #138: Jun 01, 2021 12:55:35 pm
      There are no football or financial reasons for re-signing Philippe Coutinho.

      He is LFC history.

      Whatever some Spanish internet gobshites might say, there is no buyback clause that says if we email Barcelona on a Wednesday afternoon between 3 and 4pm we can get him back for nothing and claim £50m cashback and also get 2 tickets for a free draw to win a giant teddy bear.

       :lmao:
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      Reply #139: Jun 01, 2021 12:56:52 pm
      It was a contractual stipulation with £40m of the fee to be paid when he was re-sold to another club.

      https://talksport.com/football/888820/barcelona-philippe-coutinho-return-liverpool-transfer-debt/

      LFC is still owed dosh according to several media sources and contrary to some claims on this forum.


      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/philippe-coutinho-liverpool-barcelona-19700776.amp



      “ But while the accounts show that the debt to Liverpool remains, the Reds have actually received the cash after selling the debt to a third party financial institution.”
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      Reply #140: Jun 01, 2021 01:02:30 pm

      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/philippe-coutinho-liverpool-barcelona-19700776.amp



      “ But while the accounts show that the debt to Liverpool remains, the Reds have actually received the cash after selling the debt to a third party financial institution.”

      So many opinions on his contract agreements  :f_doh: So if that's the case does it say how much  Liverpool got from the third party?
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      Reply #141: Jun 01, 2021 01:04:54 pm
      So many opinions on his contract agreements  :f_doh: So if that's the case does it say how much  Liverpool got from the third party?

      Whatever was left over from the fee at the time the debt was sold
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      Reply #142: Jun 01, 2021 01:05:48 pm
      There are no football or financial reasons for re-signing Philippe Coutinho.

      He is LFC history.

      Whatever some Spanish internet gobshites might say, there is no buyback clause that says if we email Barcelona on a Wednesday afternoon between 3 and 4pm we can get him back for nothing and claim £50m cashback and also get 2 tickets for a free draw to win a giant teddy bear.

      How would you rate him against some of the "dead wood" as it is described, being reportedly offloaded ?
      As a last resort the lad could be sold off for a sight more than the remainder of the fee.
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      Reply #143: Jun 01, 2021 01:35:36 pm
      Aye read that somewhere myself. We sold the debt off to some third party company. No idea who.

      What does that mean?

      If he's for free I would take him back. I will use him as impact sub and when Salah and Mane are off, I would play him, Firmino and Jota.
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      Reply #144: Jun 01, 2021 01:48:08 pm
      I would bring him back but on reduced wage for leaving us :)

      In January, I would play like this:

      Coutinho      Firmino        Jota

      This is another reason i can never forget that little c**t. When thundercunt Ramos took down Salah in the CL final, had that little rat been with us you could have moved him to LW and gone Phil-Bobby-Sadio as front 3 and still be very strong. Instead, we had to bring in Lallana as the sub.

      I almost get teary eyed at how karma has done its thing with him at Barcelona and been what appears to be a miserable time for him there and would not want him back. However, if Jürgen says yes and he does come back, i will root for the shirt, not the player.
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      Reply #145: Jun 01, 2021 02:06:28 pm
      What does that mean?

      If he's for free I would take him back. I will use him as impact sub and when Salah and Mane are off, I would play him, Firmino and Jota.

      It means that Barcelona still owe £40mil for him


      We have covered that money off by selling the debt to a finance company who have paid us the money - so the money still needs to be paid , he won’t be free
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      Reply #146: Jun 01, 2021 02:12:30 pm
      What does that mean?

      If he's for free I would take him back. I will use him as impact sub and when Salah and Mane are off, I would play him, Firmino and Jota.

      What does what mean?

      Liverpool got their money. Barcelona owe the rest of the transfer fee to a third party financer that paid us the money.

      No way do I want Phil back. He's past it and I don't want us doing business with that group of rats. Screw them.
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      Reply #147: Jun 01, 2021 03:11:23 pm
      What does what mean?

      Liverpool got their money. Barcelona owe the rest of the transfer fee to a third party financer that paid us the money.

      No way do I want Phil back. He's past it and I don't want us doing business with that group of rats. Screw them.

      I'm on the fence. 

      On the one hand, I'm a spiteful person and I was overjoyed to see him struggle after the way he left.  Knocking him and Suarez out of the CL in that trophy winning season was unbelievable!! 

      On the other hand, I feel like he has paid for his mistake. 

      I would have him back if all of these boxes were ticked:
      - He's willing to publicly apologize for the way he acted and admit that he made a massive mistake
      - Jürgen wants him back and thinks he can help us win more trophies
      - We get the better end of the deal with Barcelona to help make up for those cu*ts poaching Masch and Suarez off us
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      Reply #148: Jun 01, 2021 03:33:31 pm
      I'm on the fence. 

      On the one hand, I'm a spiteful person and I was overjoyed to see him struggle after the way he left.  Knocking him and Suarez out of the CL in that trophy winning season was unbelievable!! 

      On the other hand, I feel like he has paid for his mistake. 

      I would have him back if all of these boxes were ticked:
      - He's willing to publicly apologize for the way he acted and admit that he made a massive mistake
      - Jürgen wants him back and thinks he can help us win more trophies
      - We get the better end of the deal with Barcelona to help make up for those cu*ts poaching Masch and Suarez off us

      I just feel like we can probably do better for the money they'd try to recoup. Unless we got him for peanuts, I don't think it would even be justifiable.
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      Reply #149: Jun 01, 2021 04:00:50 pm
      Cracking player talent to burn but he left for better times never go back. Wish him well but not here.

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