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      Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)

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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #92: Aug 01, 2024 01:58:56 pm
      Don't know that I'd say he's regular starting Premier League level at this point. I think he might be a little ahead of himself if he thinks that. To me he's right about the level of Quansah or maybe a touch below. So he's 3rd or 4th choice but with injuries and rest he'd likely get plenty of game time.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #93: Aug 02, 2024 04:11:08 pm
      No Brainer for me, we’ll need a replacement for Joel so why not this fella, his stats back up his capabilities and he has enough experience now with playing in the Bundesliga, he has impressed in the States and I think he’s only gonna get better, going out on yet another loan will send the wrong message and will mean spending money we don’t necessarily have to spend,

      He may be 4th choice but so was Gomez at one point as too Jarrell, and we all know the longevity of the season ahead so the chances are high that we will indeed get valuable game time, he stays for me .



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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #94: Aug 05, 2024 06:41:16 pm
      I had a quick look online and it appears his contract runs for another 2 seasons. I'd prefer to keep him at the club for this season and see if he's good enough.

      Next summer we'll have an option to extend his contract if he has a future at the club or let him move on.
      I think that he can get at least 20 games for us in FA cup, League cup, probably a few premier league and potentially Champions league. Obviously the number  of games depends on his performances and the other defenders form/fitness. I'm not to concerned about selling for the biggest price this summer.

      However, if he is going to be very unhappy if we force him to stay there is no benefit in that and we might as well let him go.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #95: Aug 05, 2024 06:48:25 pm
      I don't see the hype personally...am I missing something?

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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #96: Aug 05, 2024 07:08:05 pm
      I don't see the hype personally...am I missing something?

      Maybe we're not supposed to, he's an old school, no nonsense defender that goes about his business quietly. When I see him play I just think he defends pretty well for a guy his age. He's not one of those that's come from a rich youth academy, he's not one that's gone on loan to a fancy clubs that plays fancy football etc.

      I would say not to create an image in your head of the perfect defender (or Virgil) and reflect it back on him and just take him on face value, what you see is what you get kinda thing.

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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #100: Aug 20, 2024 10:30:45 pm
      25 million fook me
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #101: Aug 20, 2024 10:37:51 pm
      Good money but it needs putting back in to the club in the shape of first team players in.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #102: Aug 21, 2024 10:25:34 pm
      Fair play to Hughes on the outgoings never of thought we would.get 30m and didn't he say we overvalued.him . Be interesting to see how he does in the prem
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #103: Aug 22, 2024 07:51:50 am
      Looks like Brentford. I'd have went to Germany tbh. But good luck to him, probably more chance of playing for Brentford tbh.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #104: Aug 22, 2024 08:55:23 am
      Have Brentford really jyst handed us over more then 50 million for Carvalho and van den berg  : :o
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #105: Aug 22, 2024 09:20:34 am
      Have Brentford really jyst handed us over more then 50 million for Carvalho and van den berg  : :o

      Amazing isn't it.

      Nuts even.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #106: Aug 22, 2024 09:22:12 am
      The Chelsea manager explained something I didn't understand yesterday, selling home-grown/academy players is classed as 100% profit, so goes a long way towards staying inside the FFP rules.

      Assume sepp falls into that category.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #107: Aug 22, 2024 09:22:34 am

      Not bad for someone who apparently is doing nothing
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #108: Aug 22, 2024 09:24:19 am
      The Chelsea manager explained something I didn't understand yesterday, selling home-grown/academy players is classed as 100% profit, so goes a long way towards staying inside the FFP rules.

      Assume sepp falls into that category.

      We bought him so will be profit based on the fee we got him for


      If we sold jones then that’s pure profit
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #109: Aug 22, 2024 09:24:34 am
      Not bad for someone who apparently is doing nothing

      Indeed.

      FSG haters will just say were filling Thier bank balance up. L o l
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #110: Aug 22, 2024 09:47:13 am
      The Chelsea manager explained something I didn't understand yesterday, selling home-grown/academy players is classed as 100% profit, so goes a long way towards staying inside the FFP rules.

      Assume sepp falls into that category.

      Also lessens the chances of many HG players progressing at clubs. Surely clubs should be looking at producing its own talents rather then having to spend big to bring players in and then make up that money elsewhere to balance books
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #111: Aug 22, 2024 09:58:41 am
      Also lessens the chances of many HG players progressing at clubs. Surely clubs should be looking at producing its own talents rather then having to spend big to bring players in and then make up that money elsewhere to balance books

      Agreed.

      But from purely financial sense it's just fact's and numbers isn't it.
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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #112: Aug 22, 2024 10:21:25 am
      Not bad for someone who apparently is doing nothing

      Remind us all who we've signed again in the last 2 and a half months?

      fu**ed up the Gordon deal.
      fu**ed up the Yoro deal.
      fu**ed up the Zubi deal.
      Is F***ing up the Mamardashvili deal.

      Remind us who we've signed in 2024.

      Remind us all which contracts we've extended in the last 2 and a half months?

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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #113: Aug 22, 2024 10:23:22 am
      Remind us all who we've signed again in the last 2 and a half months?

      fu**ed up the Gordon deal.
      fu**ed up Yoro deal.
      fu**ed up the Zubi deal.
      Is F***ing up the Mamardashvili deal.

      Remind us all which contracts we've extended in the last 2 and a half months?

      How did he

      “F**k up” those deals 🤷‍♂️

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      Re: Sepp van den Berg Player Thread (Loan to Mainz 05) (D)
      Reply #114: Aug 22, 2024 10:25:19 am
      How did he

      “F**k up” those deals 🤷‍♂️

      Uhm, maybe because guys like Joyce and Ornstein said we tried to get deals over the line for them and quelle surprise we've ended up with no one.

      Hughes was reported to "have been very angry over the Zubimendi deal as he felt he'd given his word he'd join" Yeah, bullfuckingshit did he. Very easy to sniff out a bullshitter. Stop making excuses for why you failed and get deals done, that's what your job is to do.

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