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      Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2275: Nov 04, 2021 05:21:52 pm

      Injuries are going to happen. We can’t wrap the players up in cotton wool and a lot of the main players will play in both games. People are expecting reserve teams to play against Porto and Milan but it’s not going to happen - there will be some rotation

      This.

      Klopp has already said he will be taking the games just as seriously. Don't have a problem with that at all, it was a shame what happened to Jota last season but like you say, injuries are going to happen. It would be a shame to have won the first 4 games and then get smashed in the last 2 because we decided to rotate everyone and play fringe players/youngsters, which it seems some people are expecting us to do.

      We've had the toughest group and have a 100% record in it so far, I want that to continue and set us up perfectly for the next round. last season it was bizarre circumstances with the amount of injuries, otherwise the Jota injury wouldn't have seemed as bad as it did and had he not gotten injured then people wouldn't have moaned about him still having played. But that's the nature of the situation, people will only moan about someone playing a dead rubber if something happens, but if Jota hadn't of gotten injured and hit a hat trick then everybody would've been saying how great he was and what a good performance he'd put in.

      We have a good enough squad to change it up a bit but still play the likes of Salah. But like you say, there will be changes, players will be rested and taken off early across the 2 games so people need to forget this idea of it being a completely different 11 in the final games.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2276: Nov 04, 2021 06:52:23 pm
      This.

      Klopp has already said he will be taking the games just as seriously. Don't have a problem with that at all, it was a shame what happened to Jota last season but like you say, injuries are going to happen. It would be a shame to have won the first 4 games and then get smashed in the last 2 because we decided to rotate everyone and play fringe players/youngsters, which it seems some people are expecting us to do.

      We've had the toughest group and have a 100% record in it so far, I want that to continue and set us up perfectly for the next round. last season it was bizarre circumstances with the amount of injuries, otherwise the Jota injury wouldn't have seemed as bad as it did and had he not gotten injured then people wouldn't have moaned about him still having played. But that's the nature of the situation, people will only moan about someone playing a dead rubber if something happens, but if Jota hadn't of gotten injured and hit a hat trick then everybody would've been saying how great he was and what a good performance he'd put in.

      We have a good enough squad to change it up a bit but still play the likes of Salah. But like you say, there will be changes, players will be rested and taken off early across the 2 games so people need to forget this idea of it being a completely different 11 in the final games.


      The rhetoric right now is that Klopp is going to be forced to play all the best players just to get money - hence the post that was made


      When it’s quite clear that Klopp will pick a team to win the game for the points and to stay unbeaten etc - it won’t be just to gain 3 mil
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      Reply #2277: Nov 07, 2021 12:05:02 am
      The home game will be a relatively strong side. The away game less so, but it won't be a League Cup team, players need minutes.

      Firmino was brought on this week when we were already 2-0 up against 10 men, and got injured, his second hamstring of the season, which may keep him out until Christmas. So should he have played at all?
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      Reply #2278: Nov 07, 2021 12:06:10 am
      The home game will be a relatively strong side. The away game less so, but it won't be a League Cup team, players need minutes.

      Firmino was brought on this week when we were already 2-0 up against 10 men, and got injured, his second hamstring of the season, which may keep him out until Christmas. So should he have played at all?

      So f**king easy to be wise after the event eh??
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      Reply #2279: Nov 07, 2021 05:22:16 am
      So f**king easy to be wise after the event eh??

      Didn't you know he was a clever Cnut? I  think he invented the word hindsight  :lmao:
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      Reply #2280: Nov 07, 2021 10:39:37 am
      Didn't you know he was a clever Cnut? I  think he invented the word hindsight  :lmao:

      Hindsight bias. These people are never wrong. Crossed a few of these people before and they get me very irritated that they easily knew how things would unfold especially when I couldn't anticipate.

      It was so obvious from the start that Bobby would get injured. Anyone could tell. Yet he was used.

      Me: If you're that clever why don't you be the manager?
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      Reply #2281: Nov 07, 2021 11:27:59 am
      Apparently Southgate is upset that Jürgen questions how he uses his players or doesnt select the likes of Gomez for not playing but then goes and selects Calamity Stones.
      Jürgen spends so much time creating a mindset in his players and then has to let them go and be exposed to numpties like Southgate so it must piss him off when he plays Trent in Midfield when he is clearly one of the best WB's in the world.
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      Reply #2282: Nov 07, 2021 01:01:09 pm
      Apparently Southgate is upset that Jürgen questions how he uses his players or doesnt select the likes of Gomez for not playing but then goes and selects Calamity Stones.
      Jürgen spends so much time creating a mindset in his players and then has to let them go and be exposed to numpties like Southgate so it must piss him off when he plays Trent in Midfield when he is clearly one of the best WB's in the world.



      Mouthgate's just another FA puppet, pandering to those inept fucksticks above him, had he any balls whatsoever or in fact a clue of what is best for Engurland he wouldn't be putting square pegs in round holes just to appease those he has upset in previous selections, he upset Trent by not picking him and then tries to make up for it, but at the same time opting for Walker, just have the f***in balls to tell them,  you two are my wb's it's my decision who plays who doesn't,  instead of sucking cock to make him look good, and there lies the problem, he hasn't a f***in Scooby what his strongest X1 is because he keeps f***in about trying to please every kunt , pathetic really,  pick your strongest and go with it, ffs it's simple,  what was it Shanks said....football is a simple game,  but complicated by idiot's...something like that?
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      Reply #2283: Nov 07, 2021 01:05:25 pm
      Regarding our dead rubber games that are the two remaining champions league games, we should rest everyone. No point risking injuries. No point at all. If we lose salah inthe next Porto game with a hamstring it could upset our entire season. If we lose with our second string we just carry on as normal.

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2284: Nov 07, 2021 02:05:27 pm
      Regarding our dead rubber games that are the two remaining champions league games, we should rest everyone. No point risking injuries. No point at all. If we lose salah inthe next Porto game with a hamstring it could upset our entire season. If we lose with our second string we just carry on as normal.



      Klopp pretty much said in after-match comments he would, but the prize-money for winning group games is what the board are after.
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      Reply #2285: Nov 07, 2021 02:18:42 pm
      Klopp pretty much said in after-match comments he would, but the prize-money for winning group games is what the board are after.

      Is it like 3 million per game won or so??????
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      Reply #2286: Nov 07, 2021 02:47:19 pm
      Klopp pretty much said in after-match comments he would, but the prize-money for winning group games is what the board are after.



      There will be an absolute meltdown on here come 7pm on the night of the Porto game when we play 5-6 of the regulars!
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2287: Nov 08, 2021 05:40:10 pm
      The home game will be a relatively strong side. The away game less so, but it won't be a League Cup team, players need minutes.

      Firmino was brought on this week when we were already 2-0 up against 10 men, and got injured, his second hamstring of the season, which may keep him out until Christmas. So should he have played at all?

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2288: Nov 10, 2021 08:50:54 pm
      Quote from ruthcity
      Hindsight bias.

      It was so obvious from the start that Bobby would get injured. Anyone could tell. Yet he was used.

      Every post on this forum is with hindsight. Something happens, then we respond to it.

      We thought he was put on the bench because of choice. Knowing what happened, clearly it wasn't a choice. He's already had a hamstring injury this season, so he has to be used sparingly. But he played with a win already in the bag, had to go off again, and now he's out for "more than 4 weeks". Knowing how slow our players recover, that means Christmas at the earliest. 3 points have already been dropped since, and more are likely.
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      Reply #2289: Nov 12, 2021 11:31:04 am
      Every post on this forum is with hindsight. Something happens, then we respond to it.

      We thought he was put on the bench because of choice. Knowing what happened, clearly it wasn't a choice. He's already had a hamstring injury this season, so he has to be used sparingly. But he played with a win already in the bag, had to go off again, and now he's out for "more than 4 weeks". Knowing how slow our players recover, that means Christmas at the earliest. 3 points have already been dropped since, and more are likely.

      That is not technically true and you know it. Many many posters have urged hesitancy in players starting a game when not fully fit or coming back from injury over the last decade on this forum.

      If you check the pre and live match threads you will see many posts that question the use of certain players, posts that are live situation reactionary and posts with foresight as well.

      Come on now, you are flogging a dead horse here, ice skating up a hill or pissing into the wind.

      Either way it is futile.
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      Reply #2291: Nov 13, 2021 10:45:04 am
      That is not technically true and you know it. Many many posters have urged hesitancy in players starting a game when not fully fit or coming back from injury over the last decade on this forum.

      If you check the pre and live match threads you will see many posts that question the use of certain players, posts that are live situation reactionary and posts with foresight as well.

      Come on now, you are flogging a dead horse here, ice skating up a hill or pissing into the wind.

      Either way it is futile.

      He pisses into gale force winds on a regular basis mate!
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      Reply #2292: Nov 13, 2021 01:48:55 pm
      Quote from hardcoresoldier
      That is not technically true and you know it. Many many posters have urged hesitancy in players starting a game when not fully fit or coming back from injury over the last decade on this forum.

      If you check the pre and live match threads you will see many posts that question the use of certain players, posts that are live situation reactionary and posts with foresight as well.

      Come on now, you are flogging a dead horse here, ice skating up a hill or pissing into the wind.

      Either way it is futile.

      When you check such threads, you see reactions to line ups, formations, tactics, subs, goals, misses, ref decisions, results, and quotes of same.

      The issue is not me, it's whether someone with an injury issue should have played in a game when we were 2 goals ahead at home v 10 men. Call it hindsight if you like, but we know that the answer to that was now a blindingly obvious no.
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      Reply #2293: Nov 14, 2021 04:36:17 pm
      He pisses into gale force winds on a regular basis mate!

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      When you check such threads, you see reactions to line ups, formations, tactics, subs, goals, misses, ref decisions, results, and quotes of same.

      The issue is not me, it's whether someone with an injury issue should have played in a game when we were 2 goals ahead at home v 10 men. Call it hindsight if you like, but we know that the answer to that was now a blindingly obvious no.

      Hence you are confirming the beauty of hindsight. Icarus shouldn't have flown so close to the sun either!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

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      Reply #2294: Nov 14, 2021 04:38:33 pm
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      Reply #2295: Nov 14, 2021 06:59:24 pm

      we have to enjoy every single moment and every single word from him. For those who yearn to have been around the Shankly days then yearn no more. Right down to his distain for politicians to his belief in hard work and sharing the rewards he is a close as we could get. He is the very beating heart of our club.
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      Reply #2296: Nov 14, 2021 07:29:48 pm
      Top manager, top guy, cannot ask for anything more for LFC.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #2297: Nov 14, 2021 07:32:19 pm
      This will always be one of my favourite moments from Klopp


      https://youtu.be/j_CJ-QialoA


      Nearly as good as this


      https://youtu.be/ddq0cZQLkJM
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      Reply #2298: Nov 15, 2021 02:55:50 pm
      his words and reaction after the Barca game were just superb . He was like the proudest of Father's who had just seen his boys perform a miracle it was so telling of the man. The running on the pitch was just a moment to remember and proof just how much this team means to him.
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