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      Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #4416: Mar 15, 2023 11:10:27 pm
      Question is whether this is just a blip or if it becomes a bliiiiiiiiiip that takes years to come back from. I'm not entirely sure at this point. We have had so many false dawns and repeated many of the same mistakes throughout the season and still we hoped it would change. In past seasons the manager had a way of getting so much more out of the players at his disposal. I feel sure that if the owners were to make a rash decision we would be in all sorts of bother, condemned to several years of mediocrity, and if anyone has earned the right to have a bad season it's Jürgen IMO but sooner or later mentalities need to change, tactics need to adjust and we need a fresh impetus to be competitive again.
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      Reply #4417: Mar 15, 2023 11:16:11 pm
      Klopp. Plot. Lost.
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      Reply #4418: Mar 16, 2023 01:18:17 am

      Unfortunately it really feels like that.

      Gut wrenching

      This Man is LFC

      Needs to sort a lot of sh*t out in the off season, not only with Players but his tactics.

      Same sh*t week in week out.

      Worked wonders for a while but time to come up with something different.


      Here's a hint...GO DOWN THE FUCKING MIDDLE BOSS


      So so sick of sideways and backwards passes.
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      Reply #4419: Mar 16, 2023 08:35:32 am
      Some odd subs Carvalho 9 sec outing , Ox coming on before him ,nunez off when goals needed . Think he will really look at things in the summer and changes to his own philosophies and tactics
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      Reply #4420: Mar 16, 2023 09:50:19 am
      Some odd subs Carvalho 9 sec outing , Ox coming on before him ,nunez off when goals needed . Think he will really look at things in the summer and changes to his own philosophies and tactics

      Jürgen is seriously concerning me. It seems like he's losing the plot. Subs last night .... and not for the first time this season were bizarre.

      A full reset/focus required over the summer. I just want this season to end as from here it's only going even further down.
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      Reply #4421: Mar 16, 2023 11:26:30 am
      If we ever play madrid again under ancelotti I dont think i will watch as jurgen gets out coached
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      Reply #4422: Mar 16, 2023 11:42:51 am
      If we ever play madrid again under ancelotti I dont think i will watch as jurgen gets out coached

      Which of the managers under FSG would not get "out coached" by Ancelotti?
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      Reply #4423: Mar 16, 2023 11:50:48 am
      Read through this thread and just wow , think I’ll start my summer off now , he’s already stated we can’t act like other clubs transfer wise and there’s only so many miracles the man can sh*t ,
      He’s working with the tools he’s got it’s not good enough , but in reality how many choices do we actually have , there is not a single outfield player who has lit up this season there’s been some ok moments , but since that last hoorah against city the players have underperformed ,
      Injuries age and fatigue have all caught up in the perfect  storm summer re charge , re boot the team and let’s go again ,
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      Reply #4424: Mar 16, 2023 12:10:08 pm
      Which of the managers under FSG would not get "outcoached" by Ancelotti?

      Basic tactics are not FSG's fault. Ancelotti has been a kryptonite for Klopp, for as long as I can remember, I think we've only won once against Napoli in 2018.  He has always outdone Klopp in the tactics department. You think Everton winning at Anfield had something to do with the money? The boss has not been as good as he can be. Let's not spin this thing away from that fact.
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      Reply #4425: Mar 16, 2023 12:17:50 pm
      Last night’s result hasn’t changed anything that we’d need to do anyway come the summer, we’re not out of the top four race yet although right now, the way we are playing it doesn’t bode well at all, however, the B’Mouth loss was if you want our game in hand so effectively it’s still the same sized battle we had prior to going to the Vitality,

      We look a tired burned out ageing side that no longer has the legs, the quality, the stamina, the fluidity, the cohesion or the mental capability to return a style of football that would bring about a likely top four finish any other season,

      A season that has seen the Arse become a serious challenger in the title race and Newcastle starting to throw their weight about too, we’ve seen the emergence of a Brighton side capable of taking on and beating those normally regarded as punching above their weight, their not, arguably they are better equipped than us right now, City are City as we all know and Chavs have emptied the bank rebuilding a side that will most likely be ahead of us recruitment wise come next season, and obviously have a settled side and will be a serious contender,

      So what we looking at here is City, Arse, Chavs, MUtants, Newcastle, Brighton all ahead of us i for the top six next season, and we’re probably at least one season behind in terms of a transitional period, in short, our new side, won’t be ready next campaign either, look at the Arse model, look where they were two years ago, while we were ruling the roost Arsenal like us now were shambolic at best…..

      …….So there is hope, there will be a plan of action, two years late in coming/ starting but the wheels are in motion…

      It’s a massive summer for us, for Jürgen, for FSG, collectively we all know what is required, Jürgen has taken this particular squad to the brink of total exhaustion and nobody can ask of anymore than what they and he has given us the last 5 seasons,  they, all of them have done their collective part, now it’s over to FSG now to provide the necessary finances to continue the ambitions of the club and Jürgen,

      The goal or one of them at the start of this season, like any other is to finish within the CL spots, that hasn’t changed, it may well be the last remaining target but it was anyway, it’s all we have left so we may as well give it absolutely everything we have, it’s not going to be easy, or pretty or even entertaining, but it will be what it will be and there’s absolutely no point whingeing and f***in moaning cos that won’t make us any better,

      We are clearly in transition, we clearly need a new style of play or system, current players will / may need to adapt and new ones will need to hit the ground running, that’s a tough ask for any side rebuilding and will take time, we all need to be patient with a capital f***in P !!
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #4426: Mar 16, 2023 12:18:34 pm
      Which of the managers under FSG would not get "out coached" by Ancelotti?

      What had that got to do with his point?

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      Reply #4427: Mar 16, 2023 12:40:41 pm
      Which of the managers under FSG would not get "out coached" by Ancelotti?

      What does that have to do with what he said
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      Reply #4428: Mar 16, 2023 12:42:57 pm
      Some odd subs Carvalho 9 sec outing , Ox coming on before him ,nunez off when goals needed . Think he will really look at things in the summer and changes to his own philosophies and tactics

      That's what some here were hoping he would do during the WC break, so hopefully he does over the summer. The team needs to evolve and that includes him.
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      Reply #4429: Mar 16, 2023 12:50:02 pm
      What had that got to do with his point?



      Basic tactics are not FSG's fault. Ancelotti has been a kryptonite for Klopp, for as long as I can remember, I think we've only won once against Napoli in 2018.  He has always outdone Klopp in the tactics department. You think Everton winning at Anfield had something to do with the money? The boss has not been as good as he can be. Let's not spin this thing away from that fact.

      So the undeniable gap in footballing skills has nothing of consequence  in the equation.
      That gap meant that RM could play with four strikers and were able to deal with any shortcomings with ease.

      In that scenario tactics or selection count for very little, LFC were simply outclassed in every department, goalkeeping being the exception!

      The manager has not been allowed to address the shortcomings for at least two seasons with the sell to buy option not a viable solution, any criticism of Klopp is misguided, what should he do - buy players himself?

      Jürgen Klopp was acknowledged as the best manager in the world not too long ago and the criticism on an LFC forum is outrageous.
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      Reply #4430: Mar 16, 2023 12:54:10 pm
      So the undeniable gap in footballing skills has nothing of consequence  in the equation.
      That gap meant that RM could play with four strikers and were able to deal with any shortcomings with ease.

      In that scenario tactics or selection count for very little, LFC were simply outclassed in every department, goalkeeping being the exception!

      The manager has not been allowed to address the shortcomings for at least two seasons with the sell to buy option not a viable solution, any criticism of Klopp is misguided, what should he do - buy players himself?

      Jürgen Klopp was acknowledged as the best manager in the world not too long ago and the criticism on an LFC forum is outrageous.


      So let’s get it right


      When things go right - praise to players , manager , coaches etc


      When things go wrong - can’t be the managers fault , must be the owners
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      Reply #4431: Mar 16, 2023 12:58:04 pm
      So the undeniable gap in footballing skills has nothing of consequence  in the equation.
      That gap meant that RM could play with four strikers and were able to deal with any shortcomings with ease.

      In that scenario tactics or selection count for very little, LFC were simply outclassed in every department, goalkeeping being the exception!

      The manager has not been allowed to address the shortcomings for at least two seasons with the sell to buy option not a viable solution, any criticism of Klopp is misguided, what should he do - buy players himself?

      Jürgen Klopp was acknowledged as the best manager in the world not too long ago and the criticism on an LFC forum is outrageous.

      A lot of words there that don't really make much sense.

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      Reply #4432: Mar 16, 2023 01:08:45 pm
      A lot of words there that don't really make much sense.



      Any difficulties with the text Si could be explained if you point them out,
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      Reply #4433: Mar 16, 2023 01:10:47 pm

      So let’s get it right


      When things go right - praise to players , manager , coaches etc


      When things go wrong - can’t be the managers fault , must be the owners

      You will never "get it right".
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      Reply #4434: Mar 16, 2023 01:15:03 pm
      You will never "get it right".

      Well then you can explain your nonsense that you posted then - it was just a blob of meaningless words
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      Reply #4435: Mar 16, 2023 01:19:01 pm
      Well then you can explain your nonsense that you posted then - it was just a blob of meaningless words

      You did reply however.
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      Reply #4436: Mar 16, 2023 01:22:01 pm

      It’s simple terms to help people understand what you’re saying
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      Reply #4437: Mar 16, 2023 01:26:02 pm
      I hate the FSG and want them gone, but it's not their fault that we can't beat relegation fodder teams away from home with the players we got. Klopp has to take the blame for this season as well for his sh*t game management and awful subs.
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      Reply #4438: Mar 16, 2023 01:27:40 pm
      Any difficulties with the text Si could be explained if you point them out,

      I'll pass.

      Another post that would need any enigma machine to decode I can do without 👍

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