Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)

Yes he has been amazing for the club and he gets it

But shouts of “the clubs greatest” etc just show either a lack of maturity or a lack of understanding of the history of the club.

There is two managers that will stand above everyone in our history and one that’s the greatest ever - Bob

It's just hyperbole...nothing to challenge or get upset about.

He isn’t the greatest manager in the history of the sport

He isn’t even the clubs greatest ever manager

Yadda yadda yadda, you're entitled to your opinion. Yadda yadda yadda.

As I'm entitled to mine. The GREATEST. EVER.

Nice chat.

It’s stupid immature comments , constantly blurting out nonsense

So why pay it so much attention, are you incapable of ignoring such immaturity or do you allow your sensitiveness to get in the way of every touchy feely opinion someone has you don't agree with?

Yadda yadda yadda, you're entitled to your opinion. Yadda yadda yadda.

As I'm entitled to mine. The GREATEST. EVER.

Nice chat.

And other people are entitled to theirs fella. I'm not getting into who is the best manager but Jürgen is right up there. For me it has to be Bob. With regards to feeling the city and the fans, Kenny is number one for me.
Just my opinion nothing else.

It's just hyperbole...nothing to challenge or get upset about.

Putting up a managers league. Assessing Klopp's place in our history needs a thread of it's own.

Klopp is the greatest manager is the history of sport.
He's the greatest human being to have ever graced this wonderful world.

When people talk about lucky to have this or that, him or her. Believe me when I say this is what being lucky to have someone feels like. Let's make the most of these last few months. Up the reds!!!!

Think the likes of Sir Alex - Shanks -  Paisley may have something to say about that mate. 😂 However, for me he’s my favourite ever  Liverpool manager. All though his trophy cabinet would be considered small compared to others I do consider him one of the best managers to grace our league. It will be a sad day when he leaves the Premier League let alone you lot.

Think the likes of Sir Alex - Shanks -  Paisley may have something to say about that mate. 😂 However, for me he’s my favourite ever  Liverpool manager. All though his trophy cabinet would be considered small compared to others I do consider him one of the best managers to grace our league. It will be a sad day when he leaves the Premier League let alone you lot.

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Klopp > Shanks > Paisley > Kenny > Rafa > Houllier

Fagan is easily in the top five of that list ahead of Rafa and Gerard.

The late Great Sir Bill Shankly was the manager who adopted the Clubs anthem 'You'll never walk alone'. Story goes that Gerry was on an away trip with the club and Bill said he was really 'taken' with the song and eventually suggested it become the clubs anthem.

Written by Oscar Hammerstein and composed by Richard Rodgers, for the musical 'Carousel'. Gerry and the Pacemakers recorded their version in 1963. So Sir Bill Shankly has that one in his favour.

Fagan is easily in the top five of that list ahead of Rafa and Gerard.

Yep

For me it’s

Bob
Shanks
Kenny
Klopp
Fagan
Rafa
GH

Fagan is easily in the top five of that list ahead of Rafa and Gerard.

Not in terms of managerial credentials and longevity.

What he did in his stint was brilliant, remarkable in fact but the thing with Fagan was (& it's more about the era back then he found himself in) he was caught in the crosshair between 2 legendary figures, during a period where we nailed on to win everything if not most things anyway.

Fans need to understand and accept in this day and age as football continues to evolve it's far far harder to win things, let alone stay at the top and have a period of dominance.

Not in terms of managerial credentials and longevity.

What he did in his stint was brilliant, remarkable in fact but the thing with Fagan was (& it's more about the era back then he found himself in) he was caught in the crosshair between 2 legendary figures, during a period where we nailed on to win everything if not most things anyway.

Joe Fagan won the treble - as I said you have a lack of understanding of our past

Not in terms of managerial credentials and longevity.

What he did in his stint was brilliant, remarkable in fact but the thing with Fagan was (& it's more about the era back then he found himself in) he was caught in the crosshair between 2 legendary figures, during a period where we nailed on to win everything if not most things anyway.

A treble in his first season, followed by another European Cup final in his second. (which if the Heysel disaster hadn't of happened, he'd of also won that)

His credentials are way and above what others achieved. And following Bob was no easy task - as people have said about trying to follow Klopp won't be easy for the next manager to come in. Taking over from the greatest manager of all time is no easy task, yet Joe managed to do so.

He isn’t the greatest manager in the history of the sport

He isn’t even the clubs greatest ever manager

For the generation after ours, he is the greatest man/manager they have ever seen at Liverpool.
In a world of buying the best to win everything, he is the one person that we've seen at the highest
level that seems to compete at that level and do so with empathy/compassion for those around him.

He fights for his players. He clearly nurtures the young talent at the club,
and he has been at the heart of a club rebuild they've never experienced before.

It's okay to let them have that.

When these younger generations say "Best manager In. The. World. Ever"
I always presume they mean "In my lifetime" or "that I've seen".

Tis grand. Klopp's boss anyway.
So was Bob. So was Kenny. So was Evans.

Part of me just kinda makes peace with some of this because I kinda look at
it like this is how I hoped things would go under Rafa.

Klopp took it to another level.

In the history books as having two 18 year olds score in the same game for the 1st team.

A window into the unseen work that has gone on while Klopp is/was here.

Question is if it wasn't for Sir Bill we probably wouldn't have had Sir Bob...and if we didn't have Sir Bob...Sir Kenny might not have been here.

Sir Bill arrived 14th December 1959. We had been in the second division for 5 years. We all know the history. What he did etc.

No disrespect but it's too early in the debate to call this one. We don't know yet what will happen this season. One trophy won etc.

Obviously, I like a good few on here, have seen what all the managers from Sir Bill onwards have done. It's a glorious history, worth telling over and over again.

There really is little point in trying to apply metrics to our managers either past or present. They are custodians for a period of time and they all do their best. It is an ephemeral and transitory job they are blessed to have had. Some have won more trophies than others, others stamp their mark with their boundless energy and personality. Without resorting to the pull of the availability heuristic, it's fair to say Jürgen qualifies under both benchmarks.

So what if some want to call Jürgen the greatest ever? His achievements are monumental moreso given the built in advantages that some of our rivals had over us. In a world where wankers like Arteta would rather build a bond with that "Salt nonce Bae' and Tik Tok teens, Klopp rediscovered and fused back together that bond between club, supporter and city. That's his greatest legacy above and beyond all the trophies he won.

In such a shallow world where top flight football has become meaningless as a result of the rape and subjugation by FIFA, oil states and mega sports corporations, Jürgen at least pierced a hole through that darkness to reveal the light from what it all really used to mean (and still does for many in and around the city of Liverpool).

He did it at Dortmund, he did it at Liverpool and he'll continue doing in for as long as he has breath in his body.

In terms of affection etc Klopp is second only to Sir Bill. When Sir Bill passed the City died a tiny bit as well. Every man and woman was moved. Sir Bill's spirit lives on through his family and his spirit will never die in the hearts of True Liverpool fans, even in the wider football community.

IMO getting in front of that is well-nigh impossible

Yadda yadda yadda, you're entitled to your opinion. Yadda yadda yadda.

As I'm entitled to mine. The GREATEST. EVER.

Nice chat.

That'll be Kenny for just what he did during the Club's darkest hours

https://m.facebook.com/groups/ThemightyReds/permalink/3051629281634884/?mibextid=WC7FNe

“I might have to rethink my future”
Jürgen Klopp.

That'll be Kenny for just what he did during the Club's darkest hours

What Kenny did and went through was above and beyond , and sometimes how great a footballer he was gets lost in all that , what I would say despite 2005 Klopp in my opinion is the best thing to happen to this club since that time like Kenny he’s also a great human being .

What Kenny did and went through was above and beyond , and sometimes how great a footballer he was gets lost in all that , what I would say despite 2005 Klopp in my opinion is the best thing to happen to this club since that time like Kenny he’s also a great human being .

They all standing on the shoulders of giants.