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      Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)

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      CT_LFC
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #897: Jan 22, 2021 08:23:04 pm
      Keep up the name calling behind a keyboard and don't let the facts get in the way.

      Ok, let's talk facts then:

      1. In his first offseason Klopp brought in Mane and Gini. 2 of the best players IN THE WORLD at their respective positions
      2. Coutinho hurt his back and had to be sold to Barcelona and with his money we brought in Van Dijk and Salah. 2 of the best players IN THE WORLD at their respective positions. We SHATTERED the world record fee for a defender when we bought Van Dijk
      3. You're an idiot
      4. After losing the CL final we brought in Alisson, one of the best goalies IN THE WORLD to solidify the position and fill in a need and SHATTERED the world record fee for a goalie. In the same window also brought in Fabinho, one of the best defensive players IN THE WORLD
      5. You're an idiot
      6. After winning the league for the first time in 30 years and already 3 months into Covid, we brought in Jota and Thiago, one of the best midfielders IN THE WORLD
      7. In addition to the WORLD CLASS PLAYERS above, we also paid to bring in players like Keita, Shaq, Ox and Robertson, the latter who happens to be one of the best left backs, if not the best left back, IN THE F***ing WORLD. But we only paid 8M for Robertson, so that is not good enough for you. We should have paid 80M to make you happy.
      8. You're an idiot.

      These are facts. And you have the F***ing nerve to complain?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #898: Jan 22, 2021 08:43:34 pm
      Seasons
      #   Net Spend last 5 Years   Purchased Gross   Sold   Nett   Per Season
      1   Manchester City   £818.5 M   £312.9 M   £505.6 M   £101.1 M
      2   Manchester United   £611.1 M   £232.2 M   £378.9 M   £75.8 M
      4   Chelsea   £656.9 M   £523.6 M   £133.2 M   £26.6 M
      3   Everton   £536.5 M   £261.5 M   £275.0 M   £55.0 M
      5   Arsenal   £443.1 M   £194.2 M   £249.0 M   £49.8 M
      6   Brighton & Hove Albion   £212.0 M   £14.6 M   £197.4 M   £39.5 M
      7   Liverpool   £470.9 M   £378.5 M   £92.4 M   £18.5 M
      8   AFC Bournemouth   £204.1 M   £70.7 M   £133.4 M   £26.7 M
      9   West Ham   £308.1 M   £152.4 M   £155.7 M   £31.1 M
      14   Wolverhampton Wanderers   £269.4 M   £84.7 M   £184.8 M   £37.0 M
      10   Leicester   £381.4 M   £268.8 M   £112.6 M   £22.5 M
      11   Crystal Palace   £161.5 M   £105.3 M   £56.2 M   £11.2 M
      15   Watford   £204.0 M   £108.8 M   £95.2 M   £19.0 M
      12   Newcastle United   £273.6 M   £166.2 M   £107.5 M   £21.5 M
      15   Aston Villa   £276.2 M   £78.1 M   £198.1 M   £39.6 M
      16   Burnley   £126.6 M   £74.1 M   £52.5 M   £10.5 M
      17   Tottenham   £322.3 M   £227.7 M   £94.6 M   £18.9 M
      18   Sheffield United   £55.0 M   £14.7 M   £40.3 M   £08.1 M
      19   Southampton   £240.4 M   £243.2 M   -£02.8 M   -£00.6 M
      20   Norwich City   £65.2 M   £112.0 M   -£46.8 M   -£09.4 M
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #899: Jan 22, 2021 08:44:57 pm
      £18M net spend a season for the last 5 years, it’s true Jürgen has worked miracles.

      FSG apologists can do one!
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #900: Jan 22, 2021 08:44:59 pm
      Possible answer:
      Come start for a few months and then you will be benched when the better players get healthy

      If you're a top class centre-back, then your only competition for a place is Joe Gomez.
      Essentially we should be buying two, maybe also a good young cb if we don't think Williams is good enough, because we also have to replace Matip. I like him, but we can't keep relying on a player who plays maybe two games in a row then is out for a few weeks continuously.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #901: Jan 22, 2021 08:52:48 pm
      Ok, let's talk facts then:

      1. In his first offseason Klopp brought in Mane and Gini. 2 of the best players IN THE WORLD at their respective positions
      2. Coutinho hurt his back and had to be sold to Barcelona and with his money we brought in Van Dijk and Salah. 2 of the best players IN THE WORLD at their respective positions. We SHATTERED the world record fee for a defender when we bought Van Dijk
      3. You're an idiot
      4. After losing the CL final we brought in Alisson, one of the best goalies IN THE WORLD to solidify the position and fill in a need and SHATTERED the world record fee for a goalie. In the same window also brought in Fabinho, one of the best defensive players IN THE WORLD
      5. You're an idiot
      6. After winning the league for the first time in 30 years and already 3 months into Covid, we brought in Jota and Thiago, one of the best midfielders IN THE WORLD
      7. In addition to the WORLD CLASS PLAYERS above, we also paid to bring in players like Keita, Shaq, Ox and Robertson, the latter who happens to be one of the best left backs, if not the best left back, IN THE F***ing WORLD. But we only paid 8M for Robertson, so that is not good enough for you. We should have paid 80M to make you happy.
      8. You're an idiot.

      These are facts. And you have the f**king nerve to complain?

      THE NET SPEND IS 20M YOU FUCKWIT
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #902: Jan 22, 2021 08:55:55 pm
      If you're a top class centre-back, then your only competition for a place is Joe Gomez.
      Essentially we should be buying two, maybe also a good young cb if we don't think Williams is good enough, because we also have to replace Matip. I like him, but we can't keep relying on a player who plays maybe two games in a row then is out for a few weeks continuously.

      Indeed.

      If I'm a top CB I'd be busting to get a move to us to play alongside Virgil.

      Anyone that thinks they're good enough should be confident of regular football and displacing Gomez and Matip.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #903: Jan 22, 2021 08:56:07 pm

      Would you rather have Benjamin Mendy or Andy Robertson as your left back?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #904: Jan 22, 2021 08:57:33 pm
      Bit of fun in the thread... 😂

      Ronnie Pickering.. who..?

      https://twitter.com/lfcnev/status/1352710283471544321?s=21

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #905: Jan 22, 2021 09:03:14 pm
      If you're a top class centre-back, then your only competition for a place is Joe Gomez.
      Essentially we should be buying two, maybe also a good young cb if we don't think Williams is good enough, because we also have to replace Matip. I like him, but we can't keep relying on a player who plays maybe two games in a row then is out for a few weeks continuously.

      Same applies up top last two seasons people may have been reluctant to come as the 3 were nailed on starters now I am not to sure and overall will begin I think
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #906: Jan 22, 2021 09:05:24 pm
      Love him and totally trust the man to turn it around
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #907: Jan 22, 2021 09:11:13 pm
      Would you rather have Benjamin Mendy or Andy Robertson as your left back?

      Jürgen has his targets and budgets, the point i'm making is FSG need to back Jürgen with at least one CB signing as he's not exactly spent a fortune in his time with us, i'm not saying he should have spent 100's of millions but as he's only spent £102.650.000 over 5 plus years and achieved so much which brings in more revenue that he deserves some backing when we have had bad luck with injuries and don't have a reliable fit CB,no one can expect Jürgen to compete with no CB's and getting where we are at the moment in the league and through to the CL knockouts is an achievement in it's self.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #908: Jan 22, 2021 09:13:54 pm
      Jürgen has his targets and budgets, the point i'm making is FSG need to back Jürgen with at least one CB signing as he's not exactly spent a fortune in his time with us, i'm not saying he should have spent 100's of millions but as he's only spent £102.650.000 over 5 plus years and achieved so much which brings in more revenue that he deserves some backing when we have had bad luck with injuries and don't have a reliable fit CB,no one can expect Jürgen to compete with no CB's and getting where we are at the moment in the league and through to the CL knockouts is an achievement in it's self.

      Would you rather have Benjamin Mendy or Andy Robertson as your left back?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #909: Jan 22, 2021 09:29:13 pm
      Would you rather have Benjamin Mendy or Andy Robertson as your left back?

      What are you talking about?What's that got to do with anything?Nearly all Jürgen's signings have worked whether they cost 8m or 75m they have been Jürgen's targets,we need a CB like two weeks ago.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #910: Jan 22, 2021 10:12:44 pm
      What are you talking about?What's that got to do with anything?Nearly all Jürgen's signings have worked whether they cost 8m or 75m they have been Jürgen's targets,we need a CB like two weeks ago.

      You're one of the main clowns driving the "net spend" train when in reality it really doesn't F***ing matter.

      Mendy cost over 50M and Robertson 8M but all you care about is cost, not quality. Ousmane Dembele cost 100M and Sadio Mane cost 35M, so you'd rather have Dembele because he costs more and increases the net spend. How has that turned out for Barcelona? Joel Matip cost NOTHING and John Stones cost almost 50M. How much did Chelsea spend this summer? how has it turned for them?

      How do you not F***ing get it?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #911: Jan 23, 2021 12:12:10 am
      Well Jürgen’s basically confirmed he wanted a centre half and has been told no, interesting comments.

      Let’s pray VVD or Gomez are back quicker than expected (and that Matip can go more than 3 games without breaking down).
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #912: Jan 23, 2021 12:35:21 am
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      Reply #913: Jan 23, 2021 02:21:06 am
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #914: Jan 23, 2021 02:48:32 am

      Criminal from the owners for not backing the Boss after what he has delivered...

      I know the purse is tight due to the summer signings of Haaland & Mbappe but come on give the man a CB in this window..
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #915: Jan 23, 2021 09:08:14 am
      Well that doesn’t sound ideal.

      It doesn't but I think the money problem is football wide mate so maybe not as dramatic a story as it seems either?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #916: Jan 23, 2021 09:08:52 am
      You're one of the main clowns driving the "net spend" train when in reality it really doesn't f**king matter.

      Mendy cost over 50M and Robertson 8M but all you care about is cost, not quality. Ousmane Dembele cost 100M and Sadio Mane cost 35M, so you'd rather have Dembele because he costs more and increases the net spend. How has that turned out for Barcelona? Joel Matip cost NOTHING and John Stones cost almost 50M. How much did Chelsea spend this summer? how has it turned for them?

      How do you not f**king get it?

      You ask how he doesn't get it and then completely miss his point! He's not asking for the most expensive toy in the shop necessarily, but for the club to pursue whatever targets Klopp and the scouting team/coaches think will help. That Klopp wanted a new centre back is now clear.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #917: Jan 23, 2021 10:05:30 am
      You ask how he doesn't get it and then completely miss his point! He's not asking for the most expensive toy in the shop necessarily, but for the club to pursue whatever targets Klopp and the scouting team/coaches think will help. That Klopp wanted a new centre back is now clear.

      Thank you Isaac.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #918: Jan 23, 2021 10:24:29 am

      Is that one of the first times Klopp's come out and had a bit of a pop at the owners?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - LFC Manager (Part 2)
      Reply #919: Jan 23, 2021 10:25:03 am
      Reading Jürgen' s full comments puts more perspective on the situation,  as ever though people look for cheap headlines

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