Harvey Elliott Player Thread (M)

If I were Harvey I’d be watching videos of the likes of David Silva and Juan Mata non stop. They were players who were small, weak but had great careers in the Premier League. Harvey has good technical ability but whilst he’s not going to get faster or taller, he can still learn how to use his body better to still compete.

Juan Mata is a good shout.

Said it a million times...can't see anything in this player..he's the definition of a headless chicken. Not in a month of Sundays is he LFC quality.

Always good to see players being written off when they don’t get a consistent run in the team to be able to get themselves some sort of form

Said it a million times...can't see anything in this player..he's the definition of a headless chicken. Not in a month of Sundays is he LFC quality.

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Today, we are playing with two children in midfield thus have very little control and the forwards have been fed scraps.

Not basing it on today's showing (cannot judge anyone with the central midfield we have out there) but Harvey is a different player as a sub. He changes the tempo of a game when he comes on, something he obviously cannot do from the start when there is nothing to change.

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Today, we are playing with two children in midfield thus have very little control and the forwards have been fed scraps.

Not basing it on today's showing (cannot judge anyone with the central midfield we have out there) but Harvey is a different player as a sub. He changes the tempo of a game when he comes on, something he obviously cannot do from the start when there is nothing to change.

I think he's crap...always has been always will be....you think different.

I think he's crap...always has been always will be....you think different.

What's the need to be so irate over a cup tie?

Especially judging a player when they're playing alongside 10 other squad players.

Worst performance in a Red shirt from him, can’t believe he played the whole match.

What's the need to be so irate over a cup tie?

Especially judging a player when they're playing alongside 10 other squad players.

Come on diaz nunez chiesa tsmikas endo etc are all internationals. If elliott wants a future here then he has to perform when he gets a chance. He has experience and has played in big games, he could and should have imposed himself on plymouth.  He was abysmal today like pretty much all of them against what will be a league one team.

Not jumping on harvey. I like the kid but he wasnt upto it today against plymouth and thats the fact of it.

What's the need to be so irate over a cup tie?

Especially judging a player when they're playing alongside 10 other squad players.

Mate...I'm not irate....and My judgement of the player is based on his LFC career and his lack of any progression.

Mate...I'm not irate....and My judgement of the player is based on his LFC career and his lack of any progression.

Ok and I get all that, still seems needless and harsh to call out a 21 year old during the middle of a cup game for always being trash, the guy got 11 assists last season with minimal playing time….if that’s crap, then lord knows what’s decent for you.

Ok and I get all that, still seems needless and harsh to call out a 21 year old during the middle of a cup game for always being trash, the guy got 11 assists last season with minimal playing time….if that’s crap, then lord knows what’s decent for you.

It's all opinions brother...I don't rate him in the slightest.

It’s always hard for people to get form when they don’t get consistent runs in the team

Elliott was poor today , he showed last season what an asset he can be but it’s not happened this season so far for him

It’s always hard for people to get form when they don’t get consistent runs in the team

Elliott was poor today , he showed last season what an asset he can be but it’s not happened this season so far for him

I think this is an oft quoted fallacy. Plenty examples of players that come in after spells on the bench and play like they never left. Also plenty of examples of players that get extended runs in the team and just don’t ever measure up. Sometimes a player is lacking consistency which means unless you are ok with that, you may need to consider alternatives. It is what it is.

Regressed badly under Slot, I actually think Morton and McConnell are better assets to the squad.

Worst performance in a Red shirt from him, can’t believe he played the whole match.

He wasn't good, but there were extenuating circumstances.

The pitch today, it looked level, but bone dry and hard as a rock, with the ball bouncing off the surface like those plastic pitches. That suits a route one team which is exactly what Plymouth are. There was next to no football played on it.

The team was very disjointed with two kids in central midfield, one a raw, skinny 17 year old who looks nowhere near ready for this level (needs a loan).

Put those two things together and you understand more why Elliott struggled, likewise every player in the team bar maybe Endo who was able to do the bread and butter stuff.

Plus he is not a starter. We have seen time and time again he doesn't impact the team from kick off like he does when he comes on. He gets to change it from the bench.

He is an elite sub. On a proper pitch and in a proper team with grown ups in midfield giving the team control, then you see the best of him (and the others).

He had a poor game alongside several others and like.players like Trent , Robertson etc have also had . Still think he can do a job in some.games off the bench

He had a poor game alongside several others and like.players like Trent , Robertson etc have also had . Still think he can do a job in some.games off the bench

Absolutely, he’s got talent and we’ve seen him come on and change games for us so there’s no doubting his talent. Today just…..sucked.

He wasn't good, but there were extenuating circumstances.

The pitch today, it looked level, but bone dry and hard as a rock, with the ball bouncing off the surface like those plastic pitches. That suits a route one team which is exactly what Plymouth are. There was next to no football played on it.

The team was very disjointed with two kids in central midfield, one a raw, skinny 17 year old who looks nowhere near ready for this level (needs a loan).

Put those two things together and you understand more why Elliott struggled, likewise every player in the team bar maybe Endo who was able to do the bread and butter stuff.

Plus he is not a starter. We have seen time and time again he doesn't impact the team from kick off like he does when he comes on. He gets to change it from the bench.

He is an elite sub. On a proper pitch and in a proper team with grown ups in midfield giving the team control, then you see the best of him (and the others).

So on your rationale; He's well worth keeping on Liverpool's books for when:A. He is used as a sub (presumably you mean for his whole LFC career?)....B. The pitch has some moisture content....and finally, C. when there are other better players in the team?
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The whole pitch thing is silly. They had the same pitch we did. So they are better skilled than our players because they can play on smooth pitches and dry ones both?

His best thing is he seems to accentuate others skills around him. He makes sense as a sub when we're chasing a game and he has top talent around him. He has real limitations on the athletic side of the game and I fear that will always hold him back with us. He does have a role to play, but starting with fringe players away from home shouldn't be one of them.

I see Slot forcing him out in time. Klopp forced some out. Shanks, Paisley, etc. It's just part of it, nothing personal

Talented, but I've always said this:

I just don't know what he is or where he should play.

Talented, but I've always said this:

I just don't know what he is or where he should play.

Agreed, he's got some talent but he's just so slow.

Doesn't offer enough, consistently for me and he's had long enough. Can't see him getting any better.

Talented, but I've always said this:

I just don't know what he is or where he should play.

Literally definition of a player that doesn't quite fit init midfield or attack.

I think Slot will let him go in the summer. He's not his cup of tea