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      Reply #150: May 12, 2020 07:14:25 pm
      FFs we are f**king fans so i'm not looking at it thru neutral eyes.  :f_wah: someone won't answer my question.Adrian is our back up keeper when he's gone he's gone,maybe we should try and sign England's number 1 Pickford ?
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      Reply #151: May 12, 2020 07:34:09 pm
      FFs we are f**king fans so i'm not looking at it thru neutral eyes.  :f_wah: someone won't answer my question.Adrian is our back up keeper when he's gone he's gone,maybe we should try and sign England's number 1 Pickford ?

      Like I said, how childish can you get. You are just proving it even more.

      You’ve clearly taken offence over the question I asked you as you were refusing to answer it and now making a meal out of it. Sorry if you didn’t like the question but seeing as it’s an Adrian thread and the question was in response to your reply to me about him, I thought it was relevant...how wrong I was. If I had know you were going to moan about this conversation but carry on deflecting and taking the childish route, I would never have asked you it.
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      Reply #152: May 12, 2020 08:33:47 pm
         

      Cheers!!
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      Reply #153: May 13, 2020 01:08:24 am
      Could be worse, it could be what Karius did against Real!!

      As a back up keeper he'll do

      Still f**king haunts me!!!
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      Reply #154: May 13, 2020 11:22:34 am
      Are the people insisting Adrian is good enough the same ones who were saying buying Allison was a waste of money and we should stick with Karius? If you look at most other top teams they ave far better back up keepers than us and it is important.

      Ideally the backup keeper should be someone like Dean Henderson, a really good up and coming keeper who you can have as backup for a couple of seasons before they move on, hopefully netting you a tidy profit in the process.
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      Reply #155: May 14, 2020 05:23:44 pm
      Are the people insisting Adrian is good enough the same ones who were saying buying Allison was a waste of money and we should stick with Karius? If you look at most other top teams they ave far better back up keepers than us and it is important.

      Ideally the backup keeper should be someone like Dean Henderson, a really good up and coming keeper who you can have as backup for a couple of seasons before they move on, hopefully netting you a tidy profit in the process.

      Hindsight is a fabulous thing isn't it!!
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      Reply #156: May 14, 2020 05:43:27 pm
      We got more out of him than anyone would of thought looking at record in the past. Feel good story for a guy who went from being unemployed to playing for European and future Premiership champion. I would never believe we would be in the position we are with Adrian playing quarter of the season but we did (some might believe it was despite him but I think he been decent for us and deserves some credit).

      We could do better than him though back-up keeper but tough role to fill as you know you will be sitting 90 percent of the time. Seems why teams find it easier to get older keeper as younger one won't really develop if they are playing handful of games.

      I think we have more pressing needs in the market (pacey attacker, left back, centre back) so if we had to put up with Adrian as back up again I would be fine with it.
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      Reply #157: May 14, 2020 05:54:05 pm
      I'm fine with him as a backup for now, especially if Klopp feels that way as he'll know more than anyone on here.
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      Reply #158: May 15, 2020 09:49:04 am
      Hindsight is a fabulous thing isn't it!!

      so is foresight, most sensible people knew we had to upgrade on Karius, I was one of the most vocal advocates of that and yes I guess I and all the others were proven right :-)
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      Reply #159: May 15, 2020 10:06:38 am
      We got more out of him than anyone would of thought looking at record in the past. Feel good story for a guy who went from being unemployed to playing for European and future Premiership champion. I would never believe we would be in the position we are with Adrian playing quarter of the season but we did (some might believe it was despite him but I think he been decent for us and deserves some credit).

      We could do better than him though back-up keeper but tough role to fill as you know you will be sitting 90 percent of the time. Seems why teams find it easier to get older keeper as younger one won't really develop if they are playing handful of games.

      I think we have more pressing needs in the market (pacey attacker, left back, centre back) so if we had to put up with Adrian as back up again I would be fine with it.


      So you'd be fine with us crashing out of FA Cup and CL due to keeper errors again, well I'm not and its weird how other top teams have no problems having two top class GK's or at least a much much better backup than we've ever had. As we have seen having a an average to poor backup GK can cost you very dear.
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      Reply #160: May 15, 2020 03:53:30 pm
      So you'd be fine with us crashing out of FA Cup and CL due to keeper errors again, well I'm not and its weird how other top teams have no problems having two top class GK's or at least a much much better backup than we've ever had. As we have seen having a an average to poor backup GK can cost you very dear.

      No I am not fine with it but it happens and don't make it out like his errors were the only reason we crashed out of those cup competition, if we had better finishing we wouldn't been in the situation of extra time in the Champions League and FA Cup game we really didn't play well in general.

      I think the fact he held the fort down while Alisson was hurt and played his part in super cup show he is a good enough back-up. I just think there is more pressing issues within the squad that investing in will benefit the team more than spending on cash on back-up keeper who be lucky to play 10 games a season.
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      Reply #161: May 16, 2020 08:44:29 am
      No I am not fine with it but it happens and don't make it out like his errors were the only reason we crashed out of those cup competition, if we had better finishing we wouldn't been in the situation of extra time in the Champions League and FA Cup game we really didn't play well in general.

      I think the fact he held the fort down while Alisson was hurt and played his part in super cup show he is a good enough back-up. I just think there is more pressing issues within the squad that investing in will benefit the team more than spending on cash on back-up keeper who be lucky to play 10 games a season.

      Oh I'm sorry so its the forwards who let a ball slip through their hands against Chelsea or who kicked the ball to an Atletico player when we were fully in control of the match in extra time and then let in two more fairly soft goals in after that was it?  Using your argument no goalie is ever guilty of losing a match because its the bloody forwards who should have scored more goals, what a lovely get out clause for Keepers!

      BTW we have competition for places in all areas of the pitch, why not goalkeeper? For example do you not think that if Dean Henderson had stayed at Man Utd this season he would have got games when De Gea was going through his wobbly patch, I'm fairly certain he would and that's how reserve goalies get their chance to break through. If they can't break through then they are learning their trade with the best and can move on in a few years time, but I'd much rather have a really promising young keeper as reserve than some over the hill "experienced" keeper just in it for a final pay day.
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      Reply #162: May 16, 2020 10:45:27 am
      if Dean Henderson had stayed at Man Utd

      We have a better first choice keeper than the Mancs. But the backup options they could have next season or this season if Henderson had stayed is far better than ours. Unfortunately Romero and Henderson as back up options is significantly better than us having Adrian and Lonergan. It’s the one area of the squad they are actually in front of us.
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      Reply #163: May 16, 2020 11:14:36 am
      We have a better first choice keeper than the Mancs. But the backup options they could have next season or this season if Henderson had stayed is far better than ours. Unfortunately Romero and Henderson as back up options is significantly better than us having Adrian and Lonergan. It’s the one area of the squad they are actually in front of us.

      Spot on, that's the point I'm making, we need a decent reserve keeper, all top teams do, its been a weakness of ours for as long as I can remember
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      Reply #164: May 16, 2020 03:33:40 pm
      Oh I'm sorry so its the forwards who let a ball slip through their hands against Chelsea or who kicked the ball to an Atletico player when we were fully in control of the match in extra time and then let in two more fairly soft goals in after that was it?  Using your argument no goalie is ever guilty of losing a match because its the bloody forwards who should have scored more goals, what a lovely get out clause for Keepers!

      What are you rambling on about? My point was he wasn't only one to blame for those results, not to deflect all the blame off Adrian who did make those errors.

      BTW we have competition for places in all areas of the pitch, why not goalkeeper? For example do you not think that if Dean Henderson had stayed at Man Utd this season he would have got games when De Gea was going through his wobbly patch, I'm fairly certain he would and that's how reserve goalies get their chance to break through. If they can't break through then they are learning their trade with the best and can move on in a few years time, but I'd much rather have a really promising young keeper as reserve than some over the hill "experienced" keeper just in it for a final pay day.

      I agree with competition but goalkeeper is unique position because you don't rotate or sub in keeper to get minutes. It is tough to break through because most situation (like ours) we have a number 1 keeper set in stone.

      Your example proves a point I made about young keepers not developing as back-up. if Dean Henderson stayed at Manure he would be 3rd string behind De Gea and Romero, playing PL2 and sitting on the bench for Europa League games. He would of never played enough to show how good he was, just waste away on the bench. Keepers know this which is why unless you throw a boat load of cash they are going to stay away from keeper situation where side already have established number one. Hence why most teams have older keeper who content with sitting on bench and collecting decent wages.

      I look over Adrian whole body of work over the season I think he is decent back-up, there is better but I just don't think pressing need. If we fill up other needs then buy another keeper would be good but I would be disappointed if we didn't buy forward, left back or centre back but spent money on back up keeper.
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      Reply #165: Yesterday at 01:57:52 pm
      Not sure I rate him higher then Karius after seeing him again last night.

      Hes good at coming off the line in one v one situations but my God hes shakin stevens on crosses.

      I long for the day a keeper like Pat Jennings comes back.Ball into the box thats mine im cstching it any if anyone gets in the way ill catch them to
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      Reply #166: Yesterday at 02:21:53 pm
      Not sure I rate him higher then Karius after seeing him again last night.

      I don't Bri but I know I'm in the minority.

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      Reply #167: Yesterday at 02:30:55 pm
      I don't Bri but I know I'm in the minority.



      You think Karius is better of the 2?
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      Reply #168: Yesterday at 03:27:26 pm
      You think Karius is better of the 2?

      I actually believe so! I said it after Atl. Madrid game and many jumped on me. I really hope that we won't see him neaar the starting XI.
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      Reply #169: Yesterday at 03:41:06 pm
      You think Karius is better of the 2?

      For sure. Much better looking.  ;D
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      Reply #170: Yesterday at 03:41:16 pm
      You think Karius is better of the 2?

      I do mate.

      I think he's just as good a shot stopper but better coming off his line and with the ball at his feet.

      I know he made huge errors in what was the biggest game we had under Jürgen at the time but still think he's a better keeper than he gets credit for.

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      Reply #171: Yesterday at 04:03:58 pm
      For sure. Much better looking.  ;D

      I'm not gay but if I was and I was getting roasted by the two I suppose I'd rather have Adrián up me arse like.

      I may be over thinking this.
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      Reply #172: Yesterday at 04:10:22 pm
      I'm not gay but if I was and I was getting roasted by the two I suppose I'd rather have Adrián up me arse like.

      I may be over thinking this.

      I think that's safe to say 👬🍆🍑

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