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      Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #200: Aug 27, 2019 11:52:56 am
      First proper performance of the season in my view.  Dominated with a lot of slick movement and, but for the final ball, could have had a few more. 

      Thought Robbo & Trent's crossing was a bit off; too many too deep in the first half in particular.

      The front 3 look so sharp at the mo; long may that continue.

      Gutted we didn't get the clean sheet, even though it resulted in a perfect for me in the Prediction League!  Think we need to start getting clean sheets so teams don't feel like they have good chance of scoring when the line up against us.

      Looking good, though a tricky away game at Burnley is on the horizon.  Let's keep out advantage!

      COYR!!!




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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #201: Aug 27, 2019 11:54:49 am
      I was watching it my with my flat mate, an Arsenal fan, and at several points in the second half he exasperatedly begged us to "stop attacking for just a second."

      Love that new quote from Jürgen: "our identity is intensity."

      I imagine Dani Ceballos was thinking this Premiership lark isn't so difficult, then the poor lad turns up in L4 and is never seen again...
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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #202: Aug 27, 2019 11:55:40 am

      I watched Spurs vs. Newcastle Sunday and thought it was a decent game of football, but the entertainment value of our match is just so far beyond those, and I think that is much more than the impact of my fan interest being with our game. We've got something special going on before our eyes.

      Toon played a 5-3-2 all match and the Spuds couldn't even get into their penalty area. Didn't have an answer.

      I couldn't ever see that happening with the interchange of Mo Bobby and Sadio    with Trent and Andy getting in behind.

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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #203: Aug 27, 2019 11:55:50 am
      First proper performance of the season in my view.

      Agreed.  Although we got the results in that first week of the Premier League/Super Cup we looked a bit sluggish for most of those games.  Think we overdid the travelling in pre-season. 

      Don't think it's any coincidence that our best performance came after the first real week of just solid training.

      Gutted we didn't get the clean sheet, even though it resulted in a perfect for me in the Prediction League!

      7 pointer for me too.  I've given up on hopes of clean sheets until Alisson's back.

      I imagine Dani Ceballos was thinking this Premiership lark isn't so difficult, then the poor lad turns up in L4 and is never seen again...

      Took a bit of a schooling that lad, although its not a bad thing to get such a pasting early on.  Will probably focus his mind a bit.  Big thing I didn't understand with Arsenal's summer transfers was David Luiz.  I thought he was past his best about 3 or 4 years ago. 

      If they were buying him for cover fair enough, but I think they have bought him to be a first choice CB?
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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #204: Aug 27, 2019 11:58:48 am
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      Trent needs to stop giving the ball away so much. That's about the only criticism I have though.

      Well, that and VAR.

      I don't like it if that's how it's going to be implemented. About a 2 minute wait...for nothing. And did anyone notice it was immediately after that, that Hendo was caught in possession and Pepe almost scored?

      That might be Hendo not switched on, but my worry is that it was because of the pause on the play due to that VAR incident. Players might switch off and it breaks up momentum.

      I think it was the Salah high boot that was checked. He didn't hit anyone, but I couldn't see any other incident for the check.

      Hair Bag didnt get a yellow card for trying to swap shirts with VVD for the first goal. He got it instead for trying to swap them with Mo as soon as the second half started, then was literally given the run around by Mo for the third. It meant we could doze off for the last half hour, for the routine home win against Arsenal. So 9 goals, 9 points, top of the league, and a major European trophy in August is a great start.

      Now we head for Monaco to collect the UEFA awards going, during the European Cup draw...
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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #205: Aug 27, 2019 12:16:22 pm
      I've given up on hopes of clean sheets until Alisson's back.
      Yeah we don't look like keeping one as things stand!
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #206: Aug 27, 2019 12:27:39 pm
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      Took a bit of a schooling that lad, although its not a bad thing to get such a pasting early on.  Will probably focus his mind a bit.  Big thing I didn't understand with Arsenal's summer transfers was David Luiz.  I thought he was past his best about 3 or 4 years ago. 

      If they were buying him for cover fair enough, but I think they have bought him to be a first choice CB?

      Talk to any Arsenal fan and I think they'd take one of those training ground mannequins over Mustafi, so even a loon like Luiz is probably a marginal improvement on what they've got. Got to agree he's hardly one you'd turn to to bring a sense of calmness to your back four though...  :D
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #207: Aug 27, 2019 01:25:50 pm
      I know it's only 3 league games in, but that was the best performance so far, just need to keep this going and improve game on game.

      Well done lads!!
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #208: Aug 27, 2019 02:14:46 pm
      You can see already we are better this season compared to last, and we're yet to hit top gear, Mo looks sharper as does Bobby and Mane isn't far behind,
      The intensity is incredible and incessant and that is the subtle difference,
      Yes we pressed in a lot of games last season but we were also more measured and seemed more likely to control the game, particularly if we took a lead,

      This season it's looking more like we'll be going for the jugular from the start and not letting up too much, Arsenal played well, and had their chances but we were in their faces for 70% of the game,and  they simply couldn't cope with our initial pace although that understandably waned,

      I think this is what we will be seeing in most of our fixtures, and it's damn f***in exciting, I love it, you could watch it over and over and not get bored,
      And the more we play the better we will become,  Can't wait for the Burnley game now, and yet another exciting exhibition from the Champions Elect.




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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #209: Aug 27, 2019 03:15:08 pm
      You can see already we are better this season compared to last, and we're yet to hit top gear, Mo looks sharper as does Bobby and Mane isn't far behind,
      The intensity is incredible and incessant and that is the subtle difference,
      Yes we pressed in a lot of games last season but we were also more measured and seemed more likely to control the game, particularly if we took a lead,

      This season it's looking more like we'll be going for the jugular from the start and not letting up too much, Arsenal played well, and had their chances but we were in their faces for 70% of the game,and  they simply couldn't cope with our initial pace although that understandably waned,

      I think this is what we will be seeing in most of our fixtures, and it's damn f***in exciting, I love it, you could watch it over and over and not get bored,
      And the more we play the better we will become,  Can't wait for the Burnley game now, and yet another exciting exhibition from the Champions Elect.




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      I think the team is very confident in teh fcat, that we rarely lose more than 1 goal, even now when we have been a bit rusty at the back.

      Think gives the front 3, and the 2 non-holding MF's a chance to press and go for it, and of course with trent and robbo bombing on causing havoc it makes us even more dangerous.

      Teams are now scared of us again, even the so called big teams, change tactics to suit us.

      Its class.
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      Reply #210: Aug 27, 2019 04:22:29 pm
      I think it was the Salah high boot that was checked. He didn't hit anyone, but I couldn't see any other incident for the check.

      Hair Bag didnt get a yellow card for trying to swap shirts with VVD for the first goal. He got it instead for trying to swap them with Mo as soon as the second half started, then was literally given the run around by Mo for the third. It meant we could doze off for the last half hour, for the routine home win against Arsenal. So 9 goals, 9 points, top of the league, and a major European trophy in August is a great start.

      Now we head for Monaco to collect the UEFA awards going, during the European Cup draw...

      who is going to that? Van Dijk?  would prefer them to be training, this is the last midweek without a match up to mid January(depending on progress in LC). Three international breaks in that time which takes players away fromt he club for 10/11 days.
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #211: Aug 27, 2019 06:32:08 pm
      Talk to any Arsenal fan and I think they'd take one of those training ground mannequins over Mustafi, so even a loon like Luiz is probably a marginal improvement on what they've got. Got to agree he's hardly one you'd turn to to bring a sense of calmness to your back four though...  :D

      He's sh*te in all honesty. A bit like Arsenal as a whole at the moment.

      Good win for us, the front three hitting their usual form and whisper it quietly, Matip is turning into a very good defender, was boss again on Saturday.
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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #212: Aug 27, 2019 06:44:17 pm
      Yeah we don't look like keeping one as things stand!

      First one coming Saturday!
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #213: Aug 27, 2019 08:25:19 pm
      and whisper it quietly, Matip is turning into a very good defender, was boss again on Saturday.

      He's outshone Lovren since he arrived in my opinion.  What's let him down has been his injury record.

      I think Gomez presents Matip with greater competition than Dejan did and that, along with obviously training and playing with van Dijk, is allowing him to continue to improve.

      That snatch away from Aubameyang was a definite goal-saving moment v Arsenal.
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #214: Aug 27, 2019 08:26:41 pm
      this is the last midweek without a match up to mid January(depending on progress in LC).

      Hadn't realised that.  Strap ourselves in for the ride.
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      Re: Liverpool 3:1 Arsenal. In match and post game discussion.
      Reply #215: Aug 27, 2019 09:08:23 pm
      who is going to that? Van Dijk?  would prefer them to be training, this is the last midweek without a match up to mid January(depending on progress in LC). Three international breaks in that time which takes players away fromt he club for 10/11 days.

      Yes but Virgil has been nominated for UEFA Player of the Year.He's up against the usual suspects Messi and Ronaldo.Messi top scorer throughout Europe and Ronaldo won the Nations League with Portugal and Serie A with Juve. But it's reported that Virgil Van Dijk is favourite to win, it's thursday night, so he'll probably pitch up grab the award,scoff his scampi in a basket and hitch a lift back to Liverpool in time for the Burnley gig...

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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #216: Aug 27, 2019 09:24:14 pm
      Talk to any Arsenal fan and I think they'd take one of those training ground mannequins over Mustafi, so even a loon like Luiz is probably a marginal improvement on what they've got. Got to agree he's hardly one you'd turn to to bring a sense of calmness to your back four though...  :D

      I randomly watched highlights of the 2012 Super Cup when we were about to play our Final against Chelsea, and it was amazing. Every Single Goal in that game was David Luiz fault.

      It suddenly occurred to me that Frank Lampard was his team mate.

      I found it super weird the way he left Chelsea so abruptly and was desperate to go to Arsenal.

      After watching those highlights I genuinely believe Lampard knew the guy was a total Liability after being his teammate for a number of years and the first thing on his agenda as a manager was to Get Rid ASAP.

      He has the potential to be catastrophically bad, worse than Lovren on his worst day LOL.
      I can't believe Arsenal fans celebrated getting him.

      The move seemed fishy from the start.
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #217: Aug 27, 2019 09:35:48 pm
      I randomly watched highlights of the 2012 Super Cup when we were about to play our Final against Chelsea, and it was amazing. Every Single Goal in that game was David Luiz fault.

      It suddenly occurred to me that Frank Lampard was his team mate.

      I found it super weird the way he left Chelsea so abruptly and was desperate to go to Arsenal.

      After watching those highlights I genuinely believe Lampard knew the guy was a total Liability after being his teammate for a number of years and the first thing on his agenda as a manager was to Get Rid ASAP.

      He has the potential to be catastrophically bad, worse than Lovren on his worst day LOL.
      I can't believe Arsenal fans celebrated getting him.

      The move seemed fishy from the start.

      But in all honesty it doesn't take a genius to work out Luiz is a car crash waiting to happen.He's not cut out for the Prem.a strolling cushy number at Barca or Real yes and I was slightly surprised that Unia Emery forked out £8m for a 32 year old. Lampard conned Emery over that deal for sure.I mean Unia only had to ask and we could've fitted him up with Lovren for a mere £15m..
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      Re: Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #218: Aug 28, 2019 01:49:53 am
      He's sh*te in all honesty. A bit like Arsenal as a whole at the moment.

      Good win for us, the front three hitting their usual form and whisper it quietly, Matip is turning into a very good defender, was boss again on Saturday.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCnVH6_158w

      Think I laughed until tears came out of my eyes the first time I saw this. He is capable of being so very, very bad.  ;D

      3:55 is perhaps the crowning moment of it all.

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      Reply #219: Aug 28, 2019 01:59:52 am
      But in all honesty it doesn't take a genius to work out Luiz is a car crash waiting to happen.He's not cut out for the Prem.a strolling cushy number at Barca or Real yes and I was slightly surprised that Unia Emery forked out £8m for a 32 year old. Lampard conned Emery over that deal for sure.I mean Unia only had to ask and we could've fitted him up with Lovren for a mere £15m..

      In today market and considering Arsenal would have to play Mustafi who is by far one of the worst defenders in the Premiership I would consider it a low risk move. I think they will be a fun side to watch this season and I think they can keep their attack fit and firing they will outscore their defending issues to UCL spot.
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      Reply #220: Aug 28, 2019 11:58:21 am
      Hadn't realised that.  Strap ourselves in for the ride.

      Liver on red alert.
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      Reply #221: Aug 28, 2019 05:28:25 pm
      In today market and considering Arsenal would have to play Mustafi who is by far one of the worst defenders in the Premiership I would consider it a low risk move. I think they will be a fun side to watch this season and I think they can keep their attack fit and firing they will outscore their defending issues to UCL spot.

      They literally have 2 Mustati's now.
      LOL You have to ask yourself why would Lampard be willing to let him go so swiftly?
      Surely Arsenal have a 20 year old CB in their set up that has potential, as opposed to a 32 year old car crash waiting to happen.

      Its just funny LAMPARD KNEW!
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      Reply #222: Aug 28, 2019 06:42:09 pm
      They literally have 2 Mustati's now.
      LOL You have to ask yourself why would Lampard be willing to let him go so swiftly?
      Surely Arsenal have a 20 year old CB in their set up that has potential, as opposed to a 32 year old car crash waiting to happen.

      Its just funny LAMPARD KNEW!

      I think on his day Luiz can be a good defender and for chump change upgrade over Mustafi has never shown anything close to being a good defender (hence why they try to sell him and no one will touch him) while Holding is hurt and got Chambers who meh.

      I think as far as Chelsea concern they are in the transition toward younger side and saw chance to get a fee for older player so they pulled the trigger. They must be high on Tomori to make the jump up like Mount has done.
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      Reply #223: Aug 28, 2019 10:42:09 pm
      I think on his day Luiz can be a good defender and for chump change upgrade over Mustafi has never shown anything close to being a good defender (hence why they try to sell him and no one will touch him) while Holding is hurt and got Chambers who meh.

      I think as far as Chelsea concern they are in the transition toward younger side and saw chance to get a fee for older player so they pulled the trigger. They must be high on Tomori to make the jump up like Mount has done.

      Wasnt it Luiz who threw a hissyfit and didnt show up to training or something? He signed a new 2 year contract in May 🤔 Lamps appointed in July. Lampard clearly didn't rate him
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      Reply #224: Aug 30, 2019 07:15:17 pm
      What a goal from Mo, maybe an early goal of the season contender, the flic past the defender [OK, was Luis, but still], outstrip him, and calm finish at pace, brilliant stuff.
      Arse had a few chances sure, but we missed a few too, and still won it pretty comfortable.
      Keep the wins comin lads :)

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