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      Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off

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      Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Oct 31, 2019 01:48:20 pm
      Next up, after Wednesday nights mad game against Arsenal, we travel to Villa Park to face 15th place Aston Villa.

      After resting all of our usual starting line up, it’s pretty clear barring any injuries that the side that beat Tottenham will start against Villa:

      Alisson

      Alexander-Arnold
      Lovren
      Van Dijk
      Robertson

      Henderson (c)
      Fabinho
      Wijnaldum

      Salah
      Firmino
      Mane

      Subs:

      Adrian
      Gomez
      Milner
      Oxlade-Chamberlain
      Lallana
      Jones/Brewster
      Origi

      With no Matip, Shaqiri and most likely Keita, Jones or Brewster deserve a place on the bench.

      Don’t think we will have a problem here, can see us winning 3-0 ⚽️⚽️⚽️
      « Last Edit: Nov 02, 2019 01:58:26 pm by JD »
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #1: Oct 31, 2019 01:53:08 pm
      Might argue for Elliott to be in that bench slot you mention for the kids.

      Total banana skin game. I expect a doubling down on the message of "Focus" today and tomorrow.

      Will be tougher than it looks on paper, but counting on the mentality giants to come through.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #2: Oct 31, 2019 02:58:18 pm
      Why not play the Ox? He is starting to come into some good form so I say play him, at least a good half an hour or something.

      I'm actually a bit nervous about this game, didn't Villa away use to be a bit of a bogey game for us in the past? I seem to remember Benteke giving us a real thrashing in one game.

      On the other hand we are a much much better team that we used to be and on paper we should be winning this easily, it would be fantastic to win big in this game plus Genk Home leading into the Citeh match, build up even more momentum than we already have!
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #3: Oct 31, 2019 03:29:02 pm
      Ya know i struggle to get motivated to go to the pub for the 10 a.m games,cos of the clock change this one is 11 a.m and of course it's a f**king gold streaming only game and my local doesn't have it.f**k in hell! 

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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #4: Oct 31, 2019 06:23:18 pm
      Why not play the Ox? He is starting to come into some good form so I say play him, at least a good half an hour or something.

      I'm actually a bit nervous about this game, didn't Villa away use to be a bit of a bogey game for us in the past? I seem to remember Benteke giving us a real thrashing in one game.

      On the other hand we are a much much better team that we used to be and on paper we should be winning this easily, it would be fantastic to win big in this game plus Genk Home leading into the Citeh match, build up even more momentum than we already have!

      When Ox was subbed vs. Arsenal my first thought was that Jürgen intended to use him this Saturday. Maybe from the start even.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #5: Oct 31, 2019 06:23:53 pm
      Ya know i struggle to get motivated to go to the pub for the 10 a.m games,cos of the clock change this one is 11 a.m and of course it's a f**king gold streaming only game and my local doesn't have it.f**k in hell! 



      I may break down and pay the 5 bucks to watch this one from home.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #6: Oct 31, 2019 07:00:52 pm
      I may break down and pay the 5 bucks to watch this one from home.
       

      I'm ok with the free streams over paying for gold or b/r/espn.It was more just felt like watching in a social situation and the bar is not willing to update it's tv's for streaming, i'll just go down later for the u-17 world cup game.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #7: Oct 31, 2019 07:36:54 pm
      Fabinho is one yellow from a ban isn't that right?

      If so he misses this one so that he's there for the City game.

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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #8: Oct 31, 2019 07:45:45 pm
      3 out the 4 next league games on Saturday at 3 i believe
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #9: Oct 31, 2019 08:06:27 pm
      When Ox was subbed vs. Arsenal my first thought was that Jürgen intended to use him this Saturday. Maybe from the start even.
      That's funny my first thought was because he was awful 😂
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #10: Nov 01, 2019 01:45:51 am
      Can see us making XI changes for this. Hendo, Fab and Gini all to be recalled.

      Dont think Klopp would risk Ox two games in a week just yet from the start, even if he wanted to.

      Not sure he does want to tbh. I think he likes the solidity those 3 bring, especially away from home.

      I'm expecting a tough game to be honest, and one Fab will have to play, hopefully in a card free manner.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #11: Nov 01, 2019 07:51:51 am
      Fabinho is one yellow from a ban isn't that right?

      If so he misses this one so that he's there for the City game.

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      I would go with that midfield we need Fabinho for the city game I would not risk him
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #12: Nov 01, 2019 08:23:56 am
      Wouldnt risk Fab for this dont want him treading on egg shells could be more harm than good.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #13: Nov 01, 2019 08:37:21 am
      I would go with that midfield we need Fabinho for the city game I would not risk him

      Agreed, he is vital to the way we play.

      We should have enough for Villa whoever plays in midfield.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #14: Nov 01, 2019 08:58:11 am
       

      I'm ok with the free streams over paying for gold or b/r/espn.It was more just felt like watching in a social situation and the bar is not willing to update it's tv's for streaming, i'll just go down later for the u-17 world cup game.

      What's it like for the free streams over in the US? In the UK it's really easy to get a decent HD stream & 9 times out of 10 it'll be an NBC Gold stream. Not sure how much an NBC Gold costs but if their streams are as accessible in the US as they are in the UK then you could save yourself a fair amount & still get a more or less identical service
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #15: Nov 01, 2019 09:15:16 am
      Hendo, Ox, Wijnaldum midfield for me. Decent enough balance. Looked a much better team when Fabinho came on against City back in January so he's gonna be vital next week. Madness to risk him
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #16: Nov 01, 2019 12:43:02 pm
      Hendo, Ox, Wijnaldum midfield for me. Decent enough balance. Looked a much better team when Fabinho came on against City back in January so he's gonna be vital next week. Madness to risk him

      I agree with this, to big a risk playing him against Villa and Hendo or Milner can easily play that DM role.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #17: Nov 01, 2019 01:21:08 pm
      Should keep same starting 11 as spuds.

      if we can get an early goal that will draw them out.

      1-4

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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #18: Nov 01, 2019 01:55:27 pm
      3 out the 4 next league games on Saturday at 3 i believe

      Means no live TV in the UK? That's how they treat the league leaders and there goes some TV revenue.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #19: Nov 01, 2019 02:11:01 pm
       

      I'm ok with the free streams over paying for gold or b/r/espn.It was more just felt like watching in a social situation and the bar is not willing to update it's tv's for streaming, i'll just go down later for the u-17 world cup game.

      I guess I was mixing up NBC Gold with the B/R streaming. You can't get just one match on the NBC but have to pay for the whole season...so it looks like it will be Steve Hunter on LFC Radio again for me. Wednesday he had Jay Spearing with him who kept talking over the commentary as he "coached" the players from his vantage point - made it difficult to tell what was going on. Alternatively I could try TalkSport but when I've listened to that before I get about 60 percent updates on other games and 40 % sly or not-so-sly digs about Liverpool from some comm who sounds like he's just arrived at commentary gantry about spending all morning and early afternoon at the boozer.

      For all the years I followed when could only hope there were match comms on BBC World Service, I guess it is good to at least now I can follow the match as it progresses. We're on live TV over here more often than not.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #20: Nov 01, 2019 02:17:14 pm
      Means no live TV in the UK? That's how they treat the league leaders and there goes some TV revenue.

      Saturday 3PMs are the best! Easier for away supporters & it means you can have a few bevvies after the game and not have to worry about turning up to work feeling like a sack of sh*t the day after (Like I've done the past two Mondays)!
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #21: Nov 01, 2019 03:10:12 pm
      What's it like for the free streams over in the US? In the UK it's really easy to get a decent HD stream & 9 times out of 10 it'll be an NBC Gold stream. Not sure how much an NBC Gold costs but if their streams are as accessible in the US as they are in the UK then you could save yourself a fair amount & still get a more or less identical service
       

      yeah its fine,never understand the start of game threads in here with people looking for streaming links,takes  no more than 5 minutes to find! plus ya don't have to listen to the tw*t from the sun nbc still uses.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #22: Nov 01, 2019 03:12:23 pm
      Never an easy away tie in the premier league - I’m expecting a tough hard fought afternoon.

      Feels like we’re overdue a nice easy stress free afternoon but football isn’t like that often enough!

      I’m going for a tight 1-3 with Liverpool bagging the third late - off the back of a counter under intense pressure
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #23: Nov 01, 2019 03:16:48 pm
      Should leave Fabinho out. If he plays he might be thinking about not getting the yellow and we might not even see him at his best.

      If we think he really could make the difference against City (reasonable given his form this season) then he should sit the game out tomorrow.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #24: Nov 01, 2019 03:28:12 pm
      This will be tougher than most think (see every away match except Burnley!).

      Fabinho should be nowhere near this match as he is critical to our chances of success in the City game IMO.

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      TAA   Lovren  Big-Virg   Robbo

            Ox   Hendo   Gini

         Salah  Firmino   Mane

      Hopefully not go 1 behind again as we have the last 2 PL matches; tight 2-1 win again.


         
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #25: Nov 01, 2019 04:51:11 pm
      If Fab doesn't play I think it could be Milner that does. Again just makes us more solid on the road.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #26: Nov 01, 2019 04:53:08 pm
      I am with the majority here that Klopp should leave Fabinho out of the starting XI with Hendo dropping deeper and having Ox get another start in the middle. If we have to use him off the bench to close game out so be it but we want him playing for the Citeh match next week. I also think maybe leaving Salah on the bench to rest him and giving Origi another start as a reward for his performance mid-week. If we need a goal later on he is a great option to have vs tired legs of Villa. I think with Villa playing mid-week and using a few of their first team players in that game we should be fresher side but I remember when Villa use to be a bogey side for us  at Villa Park when they use to be a very good Premiership side.

      --------------------Alisson-------------------
      TAA------Lovren-------VvD-------Robbo
      --------Ox----------Hendo------Gini------
      --Mane-----------Firmino---------Origi

      Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Fabinho, Lallana, Salah, Brewster
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #27: Nov 01, 2019 05:26:48 pm
      Should leave Fabinho out. If he plays he might be thinking about not getting the yellow and we might not even see him at his best.

      If we think he really could make the difference against City (reasonable given his form this season) then he should sit the game out tomorrow.

      Madness to play Fab
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #28: Nov 01, 2019 06:33:07 pm
      Since Villa are likely to defend in numbers, how's this as a lineup and approach from Jürgen?

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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #29: Nov 01, 2019 06:49:00 pm
      Since Villa are likely to defend in numbers, how's this as a lineup and approach from Jürgen?

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      I actually like it.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #30: Nov 01, 2019 07:07:40 pm
      Since Villa are likely to defend in numbers, how's this as a lineup and approach from Jürgen?

      NB: Team no longer available

      This is more of a Rodgers line up and very often won us the spoils. Klopp is now more of a patient coach. He is prepared to see much more disciplined controlled approach. Villa will drop deep but we can still controll with our normal 4-3-3. This is obviously going to be hard on Origi and Alex. Both pushing hard for a place but finding them a place and maintaining the right balance will be the problem. However there is an argument for Origi to lead the line,Mo down the right, Sadio down the left with Bobby drifting slightly deeper accross the front line.
      « Last Edit: Nov 01, 2019 07:13:28 pm by Harrisimo »
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #31: Nov 01, 2019 07:16:50 pm
      Villa may well give us a difficult game, although going for 1 3 in favour of the Reds.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #32: Nov 01, 2019 09:00:25 pm
      No pushovers in the Prem.
       Proceed with caution.
      Still expect to win. 3:0 I think.
      Show them what to expect in the carabo cup later on 😁.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #33: Nov 02, 2019 06:50:16 am
      REDS,just bring the 3 points back to Anfield.I have every confidence in the lads,
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #34: Nov 02, 2019 10:08:44 am
      No pushovers in the Prem.
       Proceed with caution.
      Still expect to win. 3:0 I think.
      Show them what to expect in the carabo cup later on 😁.


      Got a gut feeling we’ll win 4:0 so changed prediction. 😄 come on you Red Men !
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #35: Nov 02, 2019 10:40:31 am
      Meeting up with the Villa supporting section of my family today, planned well before we knew the fixtures.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #36: Nov 02, 2019 10:50:24 am
      Could go with..

                        Allison
      TAA       Matip    VVD    Robbo

                  Hendo    Gini
               ------Bobby------
      Salah         Origi         Mane


                 
                   
      « Last Edit: Nov 02, 2019 10:54:34 am by Harrisimo »
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #37: Nov 02, 2019 11:30:31 am
      Just seen the 0-6 hammering, went for 0-3 my heart telling me 0-6 fvk it just bring the 3 points
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #38: Nov 02, 2019 12:00:48 pm
      0:1 would be fantastic
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #39: Nov 02, 2019 01:03:04 pm
      I would drop Hendo into the No 6 role and bring Ox in. Can’t risk not having Fabinho for City.
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #40: Nov 02, 2019 01:18:02 pm
      I would drop Hendo into the No 6 role and bring Ox in. Can’t risk not having Fabinho for City.

      Agree
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      Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #41: Nov 02, 2019 01:32:04 pm
      Means no live TV in the UK? That's how they treat the league leaders and there goes some TV revenue.

      But great for us that go to the games
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      Reply #42: Nov 02, 2019 01:47:44 pm
               Alisson
      TAA Lovren VVD Robbo
         Hendo Fab Gini
      Salah Firmino Mane

      Back to bread and butter.
      Great to get the 3 points against Spuds.
      Need to keep it going today, get control of the game and let the lads up front do their stuff.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #43: Nov 02, 2019 02:00:59 pm
      It’s Lallana for Fabinho!

      Let’s do this
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      Re: Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #44: Nov 02, 2019 02:05:44 pm
      Klopp looking for Lallana to be the 6, which he has been working on all pre season with him.

      Would still prefer Milner to go in there with Hendo as the 6. Perhaps Hendo still will with Lallana being more free?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #45: Nov 02, 2019 02:06:33 pm
      Playing Lallana makes no sense IMO when Ox is firing them top corner lately. Hopefully he’s not playing the deeper role, he had a mare the other night against Arsenal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #46: Nov 02, 2019 02:06:45 pm
      Klopp looking for Lallana to be the 6, which he has been working on all pre season with him.

      Would still prefer Milner to go in there with Hendo as the 6.

      They'll interchange a lot more than they do with Fbinho.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Aston Villa v Liverpool Sat 2nd November 15:00 Kick Off
      Reply #47: Nov 02, 2019 02:07:33 pm
      They'll interchange a lot more than they do with Fbinho.

      Yeah I'm thinking Hendo may actually pick up a lot of the slack.

      Fab rested due to his 4 yellows.

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