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      Robby The Z
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      The Next Crazy Stretch of Matches
      Nov 12, 2019 04:45:48 pm
      After the International Break it will be :

      Saturday Nov. 23 - At Crystal Palace (PL)
      Wednesday Nov. 27 - vs. Napoli (CL)
      Saturday Nov. 30 - vs. Brighton (PL)
      Wednesday Dec. 4 - vs. Everton (PL)
      Saturday Dec. 7 - at Bournemouth (PL)
      Tuesday Dec. 10 - at Salzburg (CL)
      Saturday Dec. 14 - vs. Watford (PL)
      Tuesday Dec. 17 - vs. Aston Villa (League Cup - alternative squad)
      Wednesday Dec. 18 - Club World Cup semifinal
      Saturday Dec. 21 - Club World Cup final or 3/4 game.
      Thursday Dec. 26 - at Leicester (PL)
      Sunday Dec. 29 - vs. Wolves (PL)
      Thursday Jan. 2 - vs. Sheffield United (PL)
      Jan 4/5 - TBA (FA Cup 3rd Round)

      13 Games in 44 days boys and girls (not counting the League Cup game).

      I see already we are talking about players missing the opening game of that stretch, with both Robbo and Mo ruled questionable for Palace, and I think both missing their international matches even though they traveled to join the respective squads.

      I look at this and while it's crazy busy for sure, I think with our squad we could actually win all 13 of the games. Rotation will be needed, and it's hard to imagine there won't be some fitness issues during this stretch, but as there's not a team in the world we need to fear, it's fair to think we could win every one of these.

      Napoli is probably the toughest of the lot, but our first choice players will want to show their best performance after what is now the only blemish on our record this season. Everton is huge of course, and Leicester away will be a stern test, but I really do think we could win the whole lot.

      By the way, I'm not prepared to concede that League Cup tie with so many of our U23s playing. That group should have a fair bit of confidence by now as well. It will be a tall order without the steadying hand of a Milner, Gomez or Origi on board, but I wouldn't rule out our young lads winning.

      But back to the other 13 matches, what a feat winning all of them would be, yeah? Wonder what the odds would be for that.
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      Reply #1: Nov 12, 2019 06:31:26 pm
      To much to think about,just gotta worry about Palace.They"re not in great form and would love to f**k us over no?
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      Reply #2: Nov 12, 2019 06:51:00 pm
      To much to think about,just gotta worry about Palace.They"re not in great form and would love to f**k us over no?

      Sure they would.

      I understand the playing staff's focus will be on one match - the next one - but I'd be willing to bet the management team, including the sports science people, have some plans about managing the workload for the various players. It wouldn't be entirely scripted through January 5th or whatever, but the fixture list in and of itself is a challenge that has to be approached with care.

      Counting the Charity Shield, we've played 20 competitive matches so far this season, winning 15, drawing four and losing just once. Two of those draws we won (League Cup and Super Cup) and one we dropped (Charity Shield).

      If we do the same over the next 20 matches (that takes us through Norwich City away on Feb. 8, into the 5th round of the FA cup and right up to the knockout rounds of the Champions League), we would be on the brink of a most historic season. I couldn't be more confident in Jürgen and the team to deliver.
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      Reply #3: Nov 12, 2019 09:24:03 pm
      Just have to take it one game at a time, not that there is any time to think ahead anyway.

      Last season we had a busy schedule over December and I think we won every game. Here’s hoping we can do it again and add a second piece of silverware to our season so far in the process.
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      Reply #4: Nov 12, 2019 09:56:19 pm
      More games the more focused we are..

      Bring it!.
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      Reply #5: Nov 13, 2019 12:54:28 am
      OGAAT
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      Reply #6: Nov 13, 2019 01:17:38 am
      More games the more focused we are..

      Bring it!.

      After these internationals we won't have to wait more than four days for the next game for almost the next two months. Enjoy every minute of it everyone.
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      Reply #7: Nov 13, 2019 05:12:03 am
      Salah and Robertson out of internationals. Give the pair a good 2 week rest before this mad run starts.
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      Reply #8: Nov 13, 2019 05:41:57 am
      I think the fixtures are laid out well where some games Klopp would be more comfortable playing squad players then his strongest XI. If we can the 3 points vs Napoli to allow us to pretty much rest all out first team players vs Red Bull will make things less difficult. I look at the period of RB Salzburg, Watford, CWC Semi-finals as a good period rest if key players need to be rested before we go into CWC final and Leicester City (Basing this on the hope we get 3 points vs Napoli)

      I just looking forward to having so many games to watch over the next couple of months.
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      Reply #9: Nov 13, 2019 08:23:45 am
      With our squad we should be OK, will be tough for teams like Chelsea and Leicester though, if they are still in touch in January I'll start to get a bit nervous.
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      Reply #10: Nov 13, 2019 08:55:32 am
      After these internationals we won't have to wait more than four days for the next game for almost the next two months. Enjoy every minute of it everyone.


      & thankfully no warm weather training camps 😎


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      Reply #11: Nov 13, 2019 09:14:51 am
      Nice 3 games period at home after palace - lovely
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      Reply #12: Nov 13, 2019 09:32:01 am
      At some point klopp will have to bring the fringe players in before it gets forced upon him. I'm talking about players such as keita,  lallana, gomez, shaqiri(I know he's injured).
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      Reply #13: Nov 13, 2019 10:58:14 am
      At some point klopp will have to bring the fringe players in before it gets forced upon him. I'm talking about players such as keita,  lallana, gomez, shaqiri(I know he's injured).

      You mean all players who have had minutes this season, besides Shaq?
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      Reply #14: Nov 13, 2019 11:34:45 am
      You mean all players who have had minutes this season, besides Shaq?

      Yeah, he's already doing this.
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      Re: The Next Crazy Stretch of Matches
      Reply #15: Nov 13, 2019 12:01:20 pm
      Leicester away on boxing day will be tough...full of turkey and christmas pudding...bellyache all round..
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      Reply #16: Nov 13, 2019 12:19:07 pm

      More so. Origi too
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      Reply #17: Nov 13, 2019 12:34:42 pm
      Leicester away on boxing day will be tough...full of turkey and christmas pudding...bellyache all round..

      Yes that could be a tough game, but hopefully after the Xmas period of games they might be getting a bit knackered by then.
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      Reply #18: Nov 13, 2019 12:44:12 pm
      13 Games in 44 days boys and girls (not counting the League Cup game).

      I'm thinking 10 fullish strength games in those 44 days.  I don't picture anyone playing more than 11 games maximum, and that would probably only be van Dijk and Allisson.

      Salzburg one is a bit up in the air - there is substantial prize money at stake even if we manage to beat Napoli.

      In reality however I look at that fixture list and I can see only 8 games the Liverpool players should be 100% focussed on and that's the Premier League games.

      I do not expect us to be flawless, and we have bought ourselves a bit of space.  50 points before the end of 2019 would be hugely impressive and is a realistic target.  If we were to reach that after the Leicester game then I don't see how anyone is catching us.

      This is the calm before the storm.  Might even get my Christmas tree up now.
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      Reply #19: Nov 13, 2019 01:27:31 pm
      Yeah we've got 8 PL games in those 44 days. Leicester away arguably the hardest. Boxing day does throw up some strange results.

      Looking at Mancheater City and their PL fixture list:

      23rd Nov. Chelsea H
      30th Nov. Newcastle A
      03 Dec. Burnley A
      07. Mancheater U. H
      15Dec. Arsenal A
      21st Dec. Leicester H
      27Dec. Wolves. A
      29th Dec.Everton H

      Our next 8 look, on paper, easier for sure. Few tough games in there, if we hold our form we could increase our lead over them.
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      Reply #20: Nov 13, 2019 01:29:02 pm
      Leicester away on boxing day will be tough...full of turkey and christmas pudding...bellyache all round..

      Let alone dealing with the lens flare from the floodlights off Brendan, Klopp and Bobby's teeth.
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      Reply #21: Nov 13, 2019 01:46:05 pm
      If we beat Napoli we are guaranteed top spot so we could rest a lot for the final group game. Winning that Napoli game is key.
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      Reply #22: Nov 13, 2019 02:25:32 pm
      I'm thinking 10 fullish strength games in those 44 days.  I don't picture anyone playing more than 11 games maximum, and that would probably only be van Dijk and Allisson.

      Salzburg one is a bit up in the air - there is substantial prize money at stake even if we manage to beat Napoli.

      In reality however I look at that fixture list and I can see only 8 games the Liverpool players should be 100% focussed on and that's the Premier League games.

      I do not expect us to be flawless, and we have bought ourselves a bit of space.  50 points before the end of 2019 would be hugely impressive and is a realistic target.  If we were to reach that after the Leicester game then I don't see how anyone is catching us.

      This is the calm before the storm.  Might even get my Christmas tree up now.

      Was about to say the teams we play have the same fixture load, but I guess most of them don't have the European games or the 8800 round trip to Qatar, so no they don't.  :)

      Anyone fancy an 8800-mile road trip to and from Qatar. You can drive there you know!
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      Reply #23: Nov 13, 2019 04:49:30 pm
      If we beat Napoli we are guaranteed top spot so we could rest a lot for the final group game. Winning that Napoli game is key.

      Also if we draw and Salzburs wins at Genk, we could potentially even go out on the final day. I really really hope we beat Napoli for so many reasons.
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      Reply #24: Nov 13, 2019 10:12:05 pm
      Leicester away on boxing day will be tough...full of turkey and christmas pudding...bellyache all round..

      Plus it’s a late kick off 8 o’clock which is load of bollocks as there are no public transport on Boxing Day for the fans
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      Reply #25: Nov 14, 2019 10:43:01 am
      Plus it’s a late kick off 8 o’clock which is load of bollocks as there are no public transport on Boxing Day for the fans

      Ah, even the fans need great character to get to the King Power.
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      Reply #26: Nov 14, 2019 11:13:35 am
      Plus it’s a late kick off 8 o’clock which is load of bollocks as there are no public transport on Boxing Day for the fans

      Club should put coaches on & cover the cost. Not holding my breath though
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      Reply #27: Nov 14, 2019 11:22:43 am
      Club should put coaches on & cover the cost. Not holding my breath though

      Why can't fans book coaches, if you have 50 people then surely that wouldn't be too much would it??
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      Reply #28: Nov 14, 2019 11:45:48 am
      Why can't fans book coaches, if you have 50 people then surely that wouldn't be too much would it??

      Because it would be a nice gesture. Y'know, with it being boxing day, freezing cold and an 8PM KO, meaning people wouldn't be getting home until way after midnight.

      Coach travel to Leicester usually would be about £25-£30 pp but it'll be a fair bit more due to the bank holiday, factor in that Christmas was the day before and supporters might not have that sort of money.

      Obviously you didn't think of that before posting another poor attempt at a smart arse comment
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      Reply #29: Nov 14, 2019 11:54:56 am
      Because it would be a nice gesture. Y'know, with it being boxing day, freezing cold and an 8PM KO, meaning people wouldn't be getting home until way after midnight.

      Coach travel to Leicester usually would be about £25-£30 pp but it'll be a fair bit more due to the bank holiday, factor in that Christmas was the day before and supporters might not have that sort of money.

      Obviously you didn't think of that before posting another poor attempt at a smart arse comment

      If they can't afford to travel don't travel, why should the club subsidise it? I'd be happy to pick up one of the tickets if someone else can't afford it and I'm sure many thousands of other fans would as well.
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      Reply #30: Nov 14, 2019 11:59:55 am
      If they can't afford to travel don't travel, why should the club subsidise it? I'd be happy to pick up one of the tickets if someone else can't afford it and I'm sure many thousands of other fans would as well.

      So it should come down to how much is in your pocket? Away games are a closed shop now and it's impossible to get on the ladder unless you've been following home and away regularly for years. I think loyal fans deserve to be looked after more than someone like yourself who just sits on here making sarcy comments and slating the team every week
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      Reply #33: Nov 14, 2019 12:34:07 pm
      Club should put coaches on & cover the cost. Not holding my breath though

      Not the club, the broadcaster should do it.
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      Reply #34: Nov 14, 2019 12:39:23 pm
      Not the club, the broadcaster should do it.

      See your point but it's the clubs who are pocketing billions from the broadcaster
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      Reply #35: Nov 14, 2019 12:44:47 pm
      So it should come down to how much is in your pocket? Away games are a closed shop now and it's impossible to get on the ladder unless you've been following home and away regularly for years. I think loyal fans deserve to be looked after more than someone like yourself who just sits on here making sarcy comments and slating the team every week

      Of course it comes down to how much is in your pocket, most things in life do as we live in a free market economy, have you not realised this yet?
      No one was HAS TO pay and go and watch the match do they, they chose to do so and if they can't afford the travel costs then that's just tough luck, it's life. As said plenty of other fans will snap up the tickets, hell those guys with tickets will probably make a profit selling them courtesy of a free market economy!
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      Reply #36: Nov 14, 2019 12:55:33 pm

      Great gesture by the club. TV broadcasters dictate kick off times and they only take prime advert time into consideration. I'm not carping about that. TV is important to the game, but it's nowhere near as good as going to the game but for the millions who can't get to the game, it's a great second best, add to that social media and it makes following LFC a better experience.
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      Reply #37: Nov 14, 2019 01:00:09 pm
      Of course it comes down to how much is in your pocket, most things in life do as we live in a free market economy, have you not realised this yet?
      No one was HAS TO pay and go and watch the match do they, they chose to do so and if they can't afford the travel costs then that's just tough luck, it's life. As said plenty of other fans will snap up the tickets, hell those guys with tickets will probably make a profit selling them courtesy of a free market economy!

      No but football shouldn't be expensive as it is - away tickets are now capped at £30 in the PL which is a good start but a lot more needs to be done as tickets for Anfield cost around £50. Those are ridiculous prices to pay considering what they were a few years ago. Wages haven't risen nowhere near as much as the inflated ticket costs have so much more should be done by clubs (lower tickets - subsidizing etc) Otherwise you'll have a ground full of rich, half arsed tourists generating 0 atmosphere as the proper fans can't afford to attend (to be fair, it's already half way there)
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      Reply #38: Nov 14, 2019 01:12:40 pm
      No but football shouldn't be expensive as it is - away tickets are now capped at £30 in the PL which is a good start but a lot more needs to be done as tickets for Anfield cost around £50. Those are ridiculous prices to pay considering what they were a few years ago. Wages haven't risen nowhere near as much as the inflated ticket costs have so much more should be done by clubs (lower tickets - subsidizing etc) Otherwise you'll have a ground full of rich, half arsed tourists generating 0 atmosphere as the proper fans can't afford to attend (to be fair, it's already half way there)

      I agree that tickets could and should be capped, they are not the major source of revenue these days anyway and as you say a good atmosphere is very important to any team.
      I would however like to see tickets distributed a bit more fairly, I find it almost impossible to get a ticket for a game these days which is quite frustrating.
      I was lucky enough to get a ticket for the away game against MK Dons recently, kindly provided by another forum member, it was fun but not the same as being at Anfield and seeing all the star players, soaking up that incredible atmosphere.
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      Reply #39: Nov 14, 2019 01:48:57 pm
      See your point but it's the clubs who are pocketing billions from the broadcaster

      The broadcaster is the one that moved it. It's the least they should do.
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      Reply #40: Nov 14, 2019 02:00:22 pm
      I agree that tickets could and should be capped, they are not the major source of revenue these days anyway and as you say a good atmosphere is very important to any team.
      I would however like to see tickets distributed a bit more fairly, I find it almost impossible to get a ticket for a game these days which is quite frustrating.
      I was lucky enough to get a ticket for the away game against MK Dons recently, kindly provided by another forum member, it was fun but not the same as being at Anfield and seeing all the star players, soaking up that incredible atmosphere.

      Away games do have their positives as I enjoy standing up as opposed to being seated, travelling support is always pretty vocal too and Anfield can sometimes be hit and miss depending on the game / where you're sat.

      Tickets are an absolute slog to get but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a simple fix & the only way around it would be to obviously expand the stadium again to free up some of the demand. At the start of the decade it was straightforward enough to get tickets as we were in a bit of a baron spell but demand has exploded lately, even with the 9k expansion, it's the hardest it's ever been
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      Reply #41: Nov 14, 2019 06:36:14 pm
      Of course it comes down to how much is in your pocket, most things in life do as we live in a free market economy, have you not realised this yet?
      No one was HAS TO pay and go and watch the match do they, they chose to do so and if they can't afford the travel costs then that's just tough luck, it's life. As said plenty of other fans will snap up the tickets, hell those guys with tickets will probably make a profit selling them courtesy of a free market economy!

      Well, the club have decided to provide free coach service for all LFC fans with tickets to the fixture. I hope you don't object to that. I thought it was quite a decent gesture given the circumstances.

      That trip would make a great subject for a documentary or short film, by the way.
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      Reply #42: Nov 14, 2019 06:37:47 pm
      Do supporters' clubs hire coaches for away games anymore, or has that gone the way of so many other traditions?
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      Reply #43: Nov 14, 2019 08:31:45 pm
      Away games do have their positives as I enjoy standing up as opposed to being seated,

      I haven't sat in the kop since the middle half of last season!!

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      Reply #44: Nov 14, 2019 08:34:48 pm
      I agree that tickets could and should be capped, they are not the major source of revenue these days anyway and as you say a good atmosphere is very important to any team.
      I would however like to see tickets distributed a bit more fairly, I find it almost impossible to get a ticket for a game these days which is quite frustrating.
      I was lucky enough to get a ticket for the away game against MK Dons recently, kindly provided by another forum member, it was fun but not the same as being at Anfield and seeing all the star players, soaking up that incredible atmosphere.

      So you want tickets distributed fairly, yet still want to experience the incredible atmosphere?

      Who do you think creates that incredible atmosphere? I'll give you a clue, it isn't the tourist element of our support!!
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      Reply #45: Nov 14, 2019 08:35:34 pm
      I haven't sat in the kop since the middle half of last season!!


      What would be capacity of the Kop if there were to be safe standing ?

      You look at the old pics and see a sea of people.. awe inspiring
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      Reply #46: Nov 14, 2019 08:39:56 pm
      What would be capacity of the Kop if there were to be safe standing ?

      You look at the old pics and see a sea of people.. awe inspiring


      Still roughly the same as it is now 12,500, don't forget with safe standing, it just means the implementation of the rail seating method, it doesn't allow anymore in than goes in the kop, now, it would just be similar standing in your seat spec.
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      Reply #47: Nov 15, 2019 08:34:54 am
      I haven't sat in the kop since the middle half of last season!!

      That's if you're lucky enough to get a ticket for the Kop!

      Usually end up in the Main Stand & the majority of the people around me look like they just came for a nap!
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      Reply #48: Nov 15, 2019 08:41:18 am
      So you want tickets distributed fairly, yet still want to experience the incredible atmosphere?

      Who do you think creates that incredible atmosphere? I'll give you a clue, it isn't the tourist element of our support!!

      I think they're already distributed fairly as they possibly can be - you could argue that it's even a bit unfair on some of the more regular match-goers.

      For the upcoming bulk sale unless you attended 13 games the previous season you're basically lumped in the free for all sale with all members. So somebody who attended 12 games last season will basically have an equal chance of getting a ticket as somebody who attended 0
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      Reply #49: Nov 15, 2019 08:45:31 am
      Do supporters' clubs hire coaches for away games anymore, or has that gone the way of so many other traditions?

      Still happens, SOS put coaches on for all games & various other groups of supporters arrange coach travel themselves. The club themselves also put coaches on which you can buy tickets for. Although the club coaches have a strict no-alcohol policy so I don't think they're very popular
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      Reply #50: Nov 15, 2019 09:30:59 am
      Well, the club have decided to provide free coach service for all LFC fans with tickets to the fixture. I hope you don't object to that. I thought it was quite a decent gesture given the circumstances.

      That trip would make a great subject for a documentary or short film, by the way.

      Obviously I don't object, I was just arguing that it should not be an obligation for the club to pay for this.
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      Reply #51: Nov 15, 2019 02:39:42 pm
      I think they're already distributed fairly as they possibly can be - you could argue that it's even a bit unfair on some of the more regular match-goers.

      For the upcoming bulk sale unless you attended 13 games the previous season you're basically lumped in the free for all sale with all members. So somebody who attended 12 games last season will basically have an equal chance of getting a ticket as somebody who attended 0

      You mean for the League Cup match at Villa?
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      Reply #52: Nov 15, 2019 06:57:59 pm
      That's if you're lucky enough to get a ticket for the Kop!

      Having a seasie in there helps ;)

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      Re: The Next Crazy Stretch of Matches
      Reply #53: Nov 19, 2019 01:27:31 pm
      You mean for the League Cup match at Villa?

      Sorry, no. That's for upcoming sale for 2020's home league fixtures

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