Ballon D'Or

Messi now massive favorite to win his 6th and as much as I'd love Virgil to win, I think the GOAT deserves it.

He's been brilliant and that can't be denied, but I feel Virgil has been near perfect in every game he has played in, so would edge it for me.

I still think Maradona is the greatest to play the game.

Can’t see any Liverpool player picking that up in front of Messi, not that I think he deserves it , it’s just I think the whole thing is corrupt , I mean if Luka Modric gets it then you know it’s a piss take , watched him a lot that season he got it , he was no where near the best footballer in Europe , i mean there’s only been six English based winners
Of it , the last being One Michael Owen .

Messi now massive favorite to win his 6th and as much as I'd love Virgil to win, I think the GOAT deserves it.

Does he get the award for crying his arse out at Anfield?

F**k him, would love to see an actual player get it that deserves it and after last season that should be VVD.

Can’t see any Liverpool player picking that up in front of Messi, not that I think he deserves it , it’s just I think the whole thing is corrupt , I mean if Luka Modric gets it then you know it’s a piss take , watched him a lot that season he got it , he was no where near the best footballer in Europe , i mean there’s only been six English based winners
Of it , the last being One Michael Owen .

Modric got it the year before for his performances for Croatia in the World Cup

Messi now massive favorite to win his 6th and as much as I'd love Virgil to win, I think the GOAT deserves it.

F**k Messi. VVD was better.

Modric got it the year before for his performances for Croatia in the World Cup

Yes I know mate , did you think he was that good in that tournament ,? I didn’t think so two goals and one assist, he was ordinary for Real that season , I just don’t think a run of seven games gets you a Ballon Do,r

Yes I know mate , did you think he was that good in that tournament ,? I didn’t think so two goals and one assist, he was ordinary for Real that season , I just don’t think a run of seven games gets you a Ballon Do,r

Well he ran the game against England in the semi, to me he was one of the stand out players of that tournament

Messi now massive favorite to win his 6th and as much as I'd love Virgil to win, I think the GOAT deserves it.

In what way did Messi have a better impact/season than Virgil?

I'm bored to death of forwards always winning this trophy and by forwards I mean Messi or Ronaldo, zzzzzzzzzz

In what way did Messi have a better impact/season than Virgil?

I'm bored to death of forwards always winning this trophy and by forwards I mean Messi or Ronaldo, zzzzzzzzzz

Went down in my estimation watching him in the semi-final 2nd leg, one crying F***ing gobs***e when things don't go his way!

Went down in my estimation watching him in the semi-final 2nd leg, one crying f**king gobs***e when things don't go his way!

Exactly - he crumbled in their biggest game and VVD stepped up to the plate.

He also crumbled in their cup final

We all know its Corrupt!
We all know VVD deserves it!
We all know UEFA aren't gonna give it to us!

We all know its Corrupt!
We all know VVD deserves it!
We all know UEFA aren't gonna give it to us!

Corrupt it is but honestly think VVD will get it myself. He's the main reason while i think you'll win the league...

Hope you are right for a change mate! 

Messi now massive favorite to win his 6th and as much as I'd love Virgil to win, I think the GOAT deserves it.

He didn’t have golden balls at anfield last season when he & his team mates got had off,the big F***ing Mary.
I hope the big man does pick it up not not just for the fact that he has a pair.

Whilst the award would be truly deserved, if VVD won it. The title will more than make up for it, if he fails to win the award.

Modric got it the year before for his performances for Croatia in the World Cup

Should be based on the whole year though, not just one tournament and over the course of the year, despite having a very good World Cup, he was far from the best.

Have always ignored it after Stevie not winning it in 2005. Travesty, and i believe he finished in third spot behind Lampard.

Messi wins it. So out of his 6 awards only half of them are actually deserved. Quite a club going on with Iniesta, Ribery and now Virgil who have all been cheated out of what should have been theirs just to please Messi.

I refuse to believe that for the last 11 years, the worlds best player has either been a Barca or Madrid player. The two clubs with the most politics in football, what a shock.

Messi wins it. So out of his 6 awards only half of them are actually deserved. Quite a club going on with Iniesta, Ribery and now Virgil who have all been cheated out of what should have been theirs just to please Messi.

I refuse to believe that for the last 11 years, the worlds best player has either been a Barca or Madrid player. The two clubs with the most politics in football, what a shock.

You forgot to add Mo Salah when F***ing Modric won it .....what a load of sh*t that was too!

In what way did Messi have a better impact/season than Virgil?

I'm bored to death of forwards always winning this trophy and by forwards I mean Messi or Ronaldo, zzzzzzzzzz

He won the league and scored over 50 goals with another 20 plus assists. Crazy numbers.

Messi wins it. So out of his 6 awards only half of them are actually deserved. Quite a club going on with Iniesta, Ribery and now Virgil who have all been cheated out of what should have been theirs just to please Messi.

I refuse to believe that for the last 11 years, the worlds best player has either been a Barca or Madrid player. The two clubs with the most politics in football, what a shock.

The best player for the last 11 seasons has been the little man. Jesus Christ it is so obvious!

https://twitter.com/fbaresi/status/1201625077143478272?s=21

Why did you have to post a picture of that sh*t!!! 


Anyways putting a sh*t load on Ronaldo to win it next year as they will want to even it up between the 2 of them!!! Corrupt cu*ts!!!! 

Why did you have to post a picture of that sh*t!!! 


Anyways putting a sh*t load on Ronaldo to win it next year as they will want to even it up between the 2 of them!!! Corrupt Cu*ts!!!! 

Sorry - but it’s the GOAT himself Baresi saying that VVD deserves it

The best player for the last 11 seasons has been the little man. Jesus Christ it is so obvious!

Except he hasn't been. Just because he's arguably the best ever, doesn't automatically mean he's the best player every season for the last 11 years.

Biggest joke for me was ronaldo getting third.absolutely laughable

Except he hasn't been. Just because he's arguably the best ever, doesn't automatically mean he's the best player every season for the last 11 years.

Exactly what I have been arguing. Virgil won the F***ing CL last season while in the second leg Messi showed exactly how good he is...What did Messi archive exactly other than the league title and scoring a bunch of goals? Both things are laughable since the Spanish league is a joke anyway. They probably still give him the Ballon D'Or long after he quit playing 

Biggest joke for me was ronaldo getting third.absolutely laughable

He should have got a TURD,he's full of sh*t anyway.

The best player for the last 11 seasons has been the little man. Jesus Christ it is so obvious!

But better than VVD over the past year, don't F***ing think so!

Load of old bollocks, biased and corrupt voting just to massage messi's  ego, and not upset the la liga lovers.

Sorry - but it’s the GOAT himself Baresi saying that VVD deserves it

Who are we to argue with the master Baresi.  What other league can the best team in the world go away to Newcastle and draw. This league is brutal especially for Forwards so for me the biggest influence a player has had on a team in the toughest league in the world is Virgil by a country mile.

He won the league and scored over 50 goals with another 20 plus assists. Crazy numbers.

We'd win La Liga if we were in it, scoring more goals as well, lets see how he would do on a cold winters day/night at Stoke. La Liga is crap compared to the Prem, basically just 4 good teams and the rest are complete sh*te, its much more competitive in the Prem.

He won the league and scored over 50 goals with another 20 plus assists. Crazy numbers.

Usually the winner comes from the European Champions in a year without the WC/EC. How many times did Ronaldo win it off the back of winning the European Cup? That's what VVD has done.

What did the convicted tax fraudster win this year? La Liga again. Well done him. Failed to win the Spanish Cup again, failed to win the European Cup again, failed to win the Copa America again. Failed to deliver the serious tin on 3 occasions, and got himself dismissed in the CA as a send off. That's apparently worthy of winning the Golden Ball these days.

This trophy is supposed to be for the best player over the last 12 months. If you want to give it every year to the best player over the past 5-10 years, that's a different discussion.

We'd win La Liga if we were in it, scoring more goals as well, lets see how he would do on a cold winters day/night at Stoke. La Liga is crap compared to the Prem, basically just 4 good teams and the rest are complete sh*te, its much more competitive in the Prem.

  Haven't heard that one in about 6 years!

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world/ballon-dor-2019-result-voting-in-full-votes-lionel-messi-virgil-van-dijk-award-a9230886.html

Check this out, in the link the word 'bizarre' is used in relation to the voting system, in actual fact Van Dijk got most votes in the important, most relevant votes section, Messi won by getting a handful of nominations from the more obscure footballing nations.  Bizarre indeed and perfectly explains why he and Ronaldo win the award which nobody is interested in every year.

Like the Eurovision Song Contest corrupt as F**k

We'd win La Liga if we were in it, scoring more goals as well, lets see how he would do on a cold winters day/night at Stoke. La Liga is crap compared to the Prem, basically just 4 good teams and the rest are complete sh*te, its much more competitive in the Prem.

He'd probably score about 6.

Doesn't it get cold in Argentina?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world/ballon-dor-2019-result-voting-in-full-votes-lionel-messi-virgil-van-dijk-award-a9230886.html

Check this out, in the link the word 'bizarre' is used in relation to the voting system, in actual fact Van Dijk got most votes in the important, most relevant votes section, Messi won by getting a handful of nominations from the more obscure footballing nations.  Bizarre indeed and perfectly explains why he and Ronaldo win the award which nobody is interested in every year.

Keeps the multinational pimps Nike and Adidas happy.

Only pubescent school boys get excited over the Ronaldo/Messi debate anyhow. If you spend half your time arguing on social media over who's the 'GOAT' between Messi and Ronaldo or why one isn't on the cover of FIFA and the other is (while running fan accounts and such) then you're nothing but a degenerate with no outlook on life. F***ing saddos.

Messi was 5th last season. Why is he now 1st?
I know he's the GOAT but that doesn't mean he should just get the award every season.
If Modric deserved to win last year you can be sure van Dijk deserved it this year.

Must state in the rules you have to be a attacking player of sorts given all the players that have won it.   I genuinely thought pound for pound their respective positions VVD was heads above anyone else. He was even odds on to win it, the mind boggles sometimes

Must state in the rules you have to be a attacking player of sorts given all the players that have won it.   I genuinely thought pound for pound their respective positions VVD was heads above anyone else. He was even odds on to win it, the mind boggles sometimes

With UEFA nothing surprises you

But better than VVD over the past year, don't f**king think so!

Exfuckingactly....Messi may be the best player but VVD had the better season and that's what I was under the assumption, the Award was for!!!

Messi was 5th last season. Why is he now 1st?
I know he's the GOAT but that doesn't mean he should just get the award every season.
If Modric deserved to win last year you can be sure van Dijk deserved it this year.

He didn't.

I understand Van Dijk had an incredible season but so did Messi. He was also top scorer in the UCL and he did score two in the first leg against us. You can't say it all comes down to one game at Anfield when all of the Barca team froze!

He didn't.

I understand Van Dijk had an incredible season but so did Messi. He was also top scorer in the UCL and he did score two in the first leg against us. You can't say it all comes down to one game at Anfield when all of the Barca team froze!

My point still stands.

He didn't.

I understand Van Dijk had an incredible season but so did Messi. He was also top scorer in the UCL and he did score two in the first leg against us. You can't say it all comes down to one game at Anfield when all of the Barca team froze!

You say it can’t come down to one game but seem okay with it coming down to number of goals scored. I Whilst Messi scores an incredible amount of goals, it’s an unfair argument IMO because Virgil is never going to score many, just like Messi would never make as many tackles and get as many clean sheets as Virgil.

I thought it was an award based on the performance of players over the course of a year, not a goal scoring award. Its essentially a glorified golden boot award if its based on Messi scoring an insane amount of goals. Put him in Virgil’s position and see how well he does because for all the glamour of Messi being top scorer last season, I believe we kept the most clean sheets with Virgil at the heart of it.

Cheating Kunt is Messi voted for Mane after facing VVD.  He votes tactically.  VVD had the best season ever for a defender no attacker troubled him through out the entire season including the cheat Messi and Ronaldo.

Don't think Lewandowski will be to happy about this.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-ballon-dor-not-awarded-22384588

Don't think Lewandowski will be to happy about this.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-ballon-dor-not-awarded-22384588

Would have been given to Messi anyway. Barca have been sh*t this season so that automatically gives Messi the sympathy win.

Would have been given to Messi anyway. Barca have been sh*t this season so that automatically gives Messi the sympathy win.

Wasn't it Ronaldo's turn this year? ;-)

Messi wins it again, can’t say I think he did enough in 20/21 to win it.

Messi wins it again, can’t say I think he did enough in 20/21 to win it.

Couldn't agree more. He hasn't done sh*t since he joined PSG, and wasn't up to his usual standards last season either.
Messi only got it because he finally won something with Argentina (and he wasn't even their best player).

For me, Lewy should 100% have won it (and last year too). And there were a few other players more deserving than Messi.

Absolute load of sh*t..what the F**k has he done to even be in the running?


Joke of an award that has no meaning anymore!!

Ok. So the guy who every single person agrees has lost a step. Wins the Ballon d'Or and the guy who everyone thinks is the best player in world football finishes 7th? I love the politics of football.

Breaking Gerd Muller's record is a F***ing achievement on its own. Far bigger than winning a Copa America tha happens every 2 years. Talk about being corrupt(thick) as F**k.

well I never saw this coming:

Never mind Messi winning how did Jorginho get 3rd is the greater mystery!

Never mind Messi winning how did Jorginho get 3rd is the greater mystery!

By helping to sell more France Football publications? By giving them more exclusive interviews? They should show where the votes came from for more audit and transparency.

Sounds like a fix, To my mind, Messi picking up this award !

Must hurt for Lewandowski that he should be on 2 Ballon D’Or’s yet he’s got none!

Couldn't agree more. He hasn't done sh*t since he joined PSG, and wasn't up to his usual standards last season either.
Messi only got it because he finally won something with Argentina (and he wasn't even their best player).

For me, Lewy should 100% have won it (and last year too). And there were a few other players more deserving than Messi.

But its for before he went to PSG. Its last season.

The copa America win has obviously tipped the balance.

Its his last.

Salah in with a shout next season if he keeps playing well. and we win something.

Joke outcome, out and out joke

Salah in with a shout next season if he keeps playing well. and we win something.

Salah will be firm fav if he keeps his form up this year. Mind you that appears to mean nothing when you think Lewandowski got sh*t on again this year.

Salah will be firm fav if he keeps his form up this year. Mind you that appears to mean nothing when you think Lewandowski got sh*t on again this year.

Indeed on both counts. :-)

Salah will be firm fav if he keeps his form up this year. Mind you that appears to mean nothing when you think Lewandowski got sh*t on again this year.

Bollox, Ronaldo already won next years

But its for before he went to PSG. Its last season.

The copa America win has obviously tipped the balance.

Its his last.

Salah in with a shout next season if he keeps playing well. and we win something.

The Award is for Calendar year so it should include this season


Messi has a total of two more club goals than Mo in that period


It’s a French award at the end of the day and Messi and Ronaldo will always be up there


Lewondonski should have won it the past two years - it was shocking they cancelled it last year and it’s a disgrace he didn’t get it this year

Bollox, Ronaldo already won next years

Not sure if that’s  with you Brian.  However, Salah ahead of the old man based from what I’ve seen so far this season.

Not sure if that’s  with you Brian.  However, Salah ahead of the old man based from what I’ve seen so far this season.

Doesnt go on form, Messi won it this year so Ronaldos turn next yearthen back to Messi the following year.

You do know Modric never actually won the award, his name was read out by mistake but there was no going back once he was up on the stage collecting it, Messi actually won that year to

Doesnt go on form, Messi won it this year so Ronaldos turn next yearthen back to Messi the following year.

You do know Modric never actually won the award, his name was read out by mistake but there was no going back once he was up on the stage collecting it, Messi actually won that year to

  Pretty sure it won’t be Messi or Ronaldo next year. 

The Award is for Calendar year so it should include this season


Messi has a total of two more club goals than Mo in that period


It’s a French award at the end of the day and Messi and Ronaldo will always be up there


Lewondonski should have won it the past two years - it was shocking they cancelled it last year and it’s a disgrace he didn’t get it this year

Aha. Calender year.

But seen as 2020 was cancelled this one was really 2 years worth.

IMO messi was still the best player on the planet.

Now going into 2022 our Mo is showing he can be the best on the planet, current form he certainly is, nobody else is scoring goals like mo.

Aha. Calender year.

But seen as 2020 was cancelled this one was really 2 years worth.

IMO messi was still the best player on the planet.

Now going into 2022 our Mo is showing he can be the best on the planet, current form he certainly is, nobody else is scoring goals like mo.

Last two years


Messi - 120 in 141 games

Lewondonski- 128 in 107 games

Messi won the cup and Copa

Lewondonski won 2 leagues , 1 cup and CL

Last two years


Messi - 120 in 141 games

Lewondonski- 128 in 107 games

Messi won the cup and Copa

Lewondonski won 2 leagues , 1 cup and CL

Cant argue with the numbers.

But messi still the best player. All round play and skills.

Lewondonski has been immense and he may well have won it, but like I say messi finally getting an international trophy has probably tipped it for him.

He hasn't been the best player in the world for about 5 years, certainly since the last WC when Modric won it. VVD should have the next year, Lewandowski last year, and probably again this year. But the "just give it to Messi" mob have lessened it's credibility. He can't run anymore, but the reality is he will win it again next year and every year until he packs it in. Lewandowski and Mo could score 150 goals each and it wouldn't make any difference.

Mo is at his peak, yet finished as the current 7th best player in the world by whoever votes for these things, just 492 points behind the winner.

Became a worthless prize years ago, it's like a vote happening within a school for something, there's cliques and only a few can win it, even on bad form.

What a lot of sh*t, Golden Balls my arse.

What a lot of sh*t, Golden Balls my arse.

that about sums it up for me

Loved Jürgen in the press conference when asked about it

What do you think about mo only being 7th


Well it’s a journalist vote isn’t it? It’s your fault then

 

This award has been a joke for years. Iniesta, Ribery, Lewandowski, Salah and Virgil all having wrogly missed out on it. Messi won Copa Amercia despite being average all tournament so that seems to have won it for him, just like when Ronaldo won it for being a cheerleader with Portugal in the Euro final they won.

Seems mad having such an award decided by shithouse journo's anyway, since when have the gotten things right, they just do whatever will sell the most.

Joke of an award, means nothing.

Would offf been funny if Messi had stood up and said " to paraphrase Richard Hawley..someone phone the police.
Mo Salah has been robbed..'

6 Reds nominated for this year Ballon d'Or. 

No Messi, no Neymar.   

But Cristiano is there... 

https://mobile.twitter.com/DAZNFootball/status/1558161165431218176

Benzema will win it. It’s always a Madrid or Barca player.

Benzema will win it. It’s always a Madrid or Barca player.

At least, he'll be a worthy winner, unlike last year...
After all, he was the standout performer of the team that won La Liga and the CL.

Votes will be split between our lads, so they don't stand a chance I'm afraid.

Benzema will win it. It’s always a Madrid or Barca player.

Deserves it, did well dragging Madrid through the Champions League last season.