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      Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #350: Dec 01, 2019 11:34:20 pm
      Wonder who would go in goal if all the subs are used ? Lallana ?

      Ox or Henderson I was thinking.
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      Reply #351: Dec 02, 2019 08:09:03 am
      Wonder who would go in goal if all the subs are used ? Lallana ?

      Big Virg, he can do everything else so why not keeping as well.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #352: Dec 02, 2019 08:16:56 am
      https://twitter.com/hackettref/status/1201394717629517824?s=21

      I still look at it as our fault, you’ve got to be ready for quick freekicks.
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      Reply #353: Dec 02, 2019 08:47:52 am
      See I don't think he is a great defender, brilliant at going forward, gets back in time but oppo payers seem to go around him quite easily, maybe coz he's fu**ed running back all the time. I just think he needs more help then he is getting from Mo.



      I agree, he's not a great defender atm, but he's adequate,  and being adequate gets him on the team sheet most games, but, we have to remember his age, he's still only a lad, a very experienced lad granted but a lad all the same,
      I think we are very lucky, we have two potentially world class RB's to choose from, Joe has a way to go yet but we can all see how good a player he is both at CB & RB, Trent for his age is fast becoming a world class attacking wing back, and as he progresses so to will his defensive qualities,  atm, Jürgen uses his age, pace enthusiasm, hunger, desire, passion and of course his ability to pass/ cross balls with almost pin point accuracy , you tell me who in world football is his equal ? There ain't many if any,
      So if opposing teams feel they see a weakness down our right, good f***in luck to them, cos I'm betting they think more about our threat than we do of theirs.

      YNWA
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #354: Dec 02, 2019 09:21:28 am
      https://twitter.com/hackettref/status/1201394717629517824?s=21

      I still look at it as our fault, you’ve got to be ready for quick freekicks.

      But it's not a quick free kick. This free kick required the ref to restart the match via his whistle. In such cases, the ref needs to ensure that all is set up correctly (including the wall as you show). If the keeper is on one side of the goal setting up the wall, then the ref needs to make him aware that he is restarting the match. Especially in this case as Adrian has just ran onto the field, so has a bit more to do than a keeper in a normal free kick situation.

      If Adrian ignores the ref and carries on, then fair enough, he is at fault. But that does not happen. No indication is given by the ref. He hasn't bothered to check that the wall and everything is ready to restart the match.. and proceeds.

      In fact, after the match Dunk stated that he saw the keeper to one side and asked the ref if he could blow the whistle, which Atkinson then immediately did as requested. It was at the request of Dunk - and Atkinson had given no indication to anyone else.

      It is not a quick free kick where a player can just kick the ball whenever he likes. 
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      Reply #355: Dec 02, 2019 09:37:04 am
      But it's not a quick free kick. This free kick required the ref to restart the match via his whistle. In such cases, the ref needs to ensure that all is set up correctly (including the wall as you show). If the keeper is on one side of the goal setting up the wall, then the ref needs to make him aware that he is restarting the match. Especially in this case as Adrian has just ran onto the field, so has a bit more to do than a keeper in a normal free kick situation.

      If Adrian ignores the ref and carries on, then fair enough, he is at fault. But that does not happen. No indication is given by the ref. He hasn't bothered to check that the wall and everything is ready to restart the match.. and proceeds.

      In fact, after the match Dunk stated that he saw the keeper to one side and asked the ref if he could blow the whistle, which Atkinson then immediately did as requested. It was at the request of Dunk - and Atkinson had given no indication to anyone else.

      It is not a quick free kick where a player can just kick the ball whenever he likes.

      I thought you’re allowed to ask the Ref to take it quickly?
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #356: Dec 02, 2019 10:54:39 am
      F**k me, it's like Sky Sports News in here! We won for fucks sake. Regardless of the intricacies of rulings involving the taking of direct free kicks, we were sloppy, got caught napping and conceded the goal. We learn from this and ensure it doesn't happen again. I won't go into the sending off of Alisson as it will involve the routine case of posters accusing me of bullying a certain player. Three points in the bag, we can't seem to do anything wrong these days and that is a testament to the hard working ethic of this Squad.

      We will never get a better chance of winning our first Premier League title than this and we are nailing it with every game that comes our way. We literally look unbeatable, look at what happened at Palace.

      We go into a difficult Winter period but the same applies to every other Club around us. The gap keeps widening and we don't look like faltering any time soon.

      Onwards and upwards.

      Good times ahead i'm sure.   
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #357: Dec 02, 2019 10:54:56 am
      Another poor performance but 3 pts in the bag.

      Love it.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #358: Dec 02, 2019 11:02:07 am
      I thought you’re allowed to ask the Ref to take it quickly?

      How is it quickly, there was about 4 minutes between the incident and the freekick? A quick freekick is being fouled getting up and immediately taking the freekick, but you don't normally do that so close to the goal when you have a wall involved etc.

      The point from Hackett about the wall is very good, it should have been overturned on VAR, but will anything be done about this, no of course not, referees are beyond reproach and can be as biased as they want, its complete bullshit!


      Anyway we won anyway so f**k you Atkinson, but lets pray we don't have any VAR decision on Wednesday because you just know that tosser will try to screw us over again.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #359: Dec 02, 2019 11:03:47 am
      F**k me, it's like Sky Sports News in here! We won for fucks sake. Regardless of the intricacies of rulings involving the taking of direct free kicks, we were sloppy, got caught napping and conceded the goal. We learn from this and ensure it doesn't happen again. I won't go into the sending off of Alisson as it will involve the routine case of posters accusing me of bullying a certain player. Three points in the bag, we can't seem to do anything wrong these days and that is a testament to the hard working ethic of this Squad.

      We will never get a better chance of winning our first Premier League title than this and we are nailing it with every game that comes our way. We literally look unbeatable, look at what happened at Palace.

      We go into a difficult Winter period but the same applies to every other Club around us. The gap keeps widening and we don't look like faltering any time soon.

      Onwards and upwards.

      Good times ahead i'm sure.   

      The point is that Atkinson is biased and/or corrupt and will do everything in his power to stop us form winning the league, he also happens to be on VAR duty on Wednesday in the match against Everton. If you are happy having a biased ref refereeing us then good for you but I think it stinks!
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      Reply #360: Dec 02, 2019 11:44:02 am
      F**k me, it's like Sky Sports News in here! We won for fucks sake. Regardless of the intricacies of rulings involving the taking of direct free kicks, we were sloppy, got caught napping and conceded the goal. We learn from this and ensure it doesn't happen again. I won't go into the sending off of Alisson as it will involve the routine case of posters accusing me of bullying a certain player. Three points in the bag, we can't seem to do anything wrong these days and that is a testament to the hard working ethic of this Squad.

      We will never get a better chance of winning our first Premier League title than this and we are nailing it with every game that comes our way. We literally look unbeatable, look at what happened at Palace.

      We go into a difficult Winter period but the same applies to every other Club around us. The gap keeps widening and we don't look like faltering any time soon.

      Onwards and upwards.

      Good times ahead i'm sure.   

      Amazing. Amazing. Exactly. We bagged the three points and two days later we're still going on about the goal we conceded. Wow! I'm really impressed by the no nonsense attitude we have and the serious desire for perfection. You guys continue complaining. Call Martin names and do whatever sh*te you think makes you feel better. I'm off celebrating our 11 point gap over City and 8 point gap over Brendan.

      As if our lads will start losing if we celebrate or stop winning if we don't complain.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #361: Dec 02, 2019 02:53:39 pm
      Fantastic 3 points. should have the game won 4 or 5, but heyho.

      Cant wait for us to smash somebody and have no drama. everton. ???   ;D
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      Reply #362: Dec 02, 2019 03:00:34 pm
      Amazing. Amazing. Exactly. We bagged the three points and two days later we're still going on about the goal we conceded. Wow! I'm really impressed by the no nonsense attitude we have and the serious desire for perfection. You guys continue complaining. Call Martin names and do whatever sh*te you think makes you feel better. I'm off celebrating our 11 point gap over City and 8 point gap over Brendan.

      As if our lads will start losing if we celebrate or stop winning if we don't complain.

      I guess its hard for people like you to feel two emotions simultaneously, you see for me and I presume many other on here we are very very happy at our league position but very very angry at having a referee constantly f**king us over, a referee who will be in charge of VAR for our match against the BlueShite.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #363: Dec 02, 2019 03:03:06 pm
      I thought you’re allowed to ask the Ref to take it quickly?

      Correct
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      Reply #364: Dec 02, 2019 03:33:06 pm
      Ref blowing their whistle when the keeper wasn't ready was harsh - Adrian was hardly wasting time.  Atkinson knew exactly what he was doing and could see the situation fully.

      Not sure exactly what the spirit of the game suggests but, along with armpit offsides, it seems that Atkinson is allowed to sail very close the the boudaries of the laws when it comes to Liverpool.

      Key take away from the whole incident however is that Alisson made a mistake in coming out so far.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #365: Dec 02, 2019 03:33:45 pm
      The Brighton player asked if he could take the kick, Atkinson the c**t seen the keeper lining the wall and theses days it is normal practice to wait, the Brighton players were not 1 metre away from the Liverpool  wall but most guilty of all was that Liverpool didn't have a player close to free kick taker to stop him from taking the free kick early, sh*t excuse for a referee. And would Ferguson let Atkinson behave the way he dose not a chance Jürgen needs to play mind games
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #366: Dec 02, 2019 05:15:03 pm
      https://twitter.com/hackettref/status/1201394717629517824?s=21

      I still look at it as our fault, you’ve got to be ready for quick freekicks.

      We can't count on it, but Atkinson totally overlooked this in awarding the goal.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #367: Dec 02, 2019 05:39:49 pm
      Ref blowing their whistle when the keeper wasn't ready was harsh - Adrian was hardly wasting time.  Atkinson knew exactly what he was doing and could see the situation fully.

      Not sure exactly what the spirit of the game suggests but, along with armpit offsides, it seems that Atkinson is allowed to sail very close the the boudaries of the laws when it comes to Liverpool.

      Key take away from the whole incident however is that Alisson made a mistake in coming out so far.

      It was certainly tough on Adrian as a keeper who has just entered the game and is trying to communicate with his defenders. The referee should really be exercising some discretion there not withstanding the issues raised regarding Brighton players being in the wall.

      With regards to Allison coming out too far I can fully understand why he handled the ball because it looks as though the ball was going in. Had the goal not been subsequently scored at the free kick I think that we might have happily (or less grumpily) taken the red card to maintain a 2 goal lead.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #368: Dec 02, 2019 11:42:13 pm
      With regards to Allison coming out too far I can fully understand why he handled the ball because it looks as though the ball was going in. Had the goal not been subsequently scored at the free kick I think that we might have happily (or less grumpily) taken the red card to maintain a 2 goal lead.

      Without watching it back, I can't remember if he could have just used his head? From what I remember, the ball wasn't exactly at a great height. But I could be wrong, like I said, I would have to watch it back and that's not really something I'm keen to do.
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      Re: Liverpool 2-1 Brighton & Hove Albion: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #369: Dec 03, 2019 11:42:43 am
      Was at the match at the front the of the Kop, so didn't see much close-up action as most of it took place at the other end! 

      It did feel almost like it was a training session though.  Not a lot of intensity; don't know if there was an element of fatigue there.

      We let them knock the ball around all game & they looked better technically for a fair bit of the match.  Brighton shouldn't be coming to Anfield and dominating possession, even if we're down to 10 men for 15 mins.

      Al & Fab will be losses for the derby and if we play like that again, we could drop points!

      Big, big month ahead now.  COYR!!!

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