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      Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban

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      TameImpala
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #150: Feb 18, 2020 09:43:58 am
      Neville's basically a City fan by default now, he knows they're the only team who will be able to stop us winning a handful of titles on the spin so he's throwing his all behind them. Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, United etc are years behind us at the minute, he knows if City drop any further then the Premier League will change from a two horse race & basically become show-jumping. It already has been this season, but a lot of people are hanging their hopes on Pep getting the chequebook out in the summer & strengthening. If this Uefa decision is upheld then there's no chance of that happening.

      We all saw his celebrations for that Kompany goal last season - He sounded like somebody who had spent 20 years standing on the Kippax, not 20 years playing for Man United. He's losing the plot over the fact all of the work him & his team mates / manager put in over a quarter of a century to put United at the pinnacle of English Football is being undone as Liverpool stroll back onto their perch, to the point where he's condoning the cheating of his local rivals. A broken man if I've ever saw one
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #151: Feb 18, 2020 10:50:49 am
      Go Gary, going from licking Fergies balls to loving City.

      Judas w**ker!
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #152: Feb 18, 2020 10:59:31 am
      Whether FFP blocks new teams breaking into the top flight can be debated, although I still maintain that any team can break in if they plan properly and invest to the maximum that they are allowed every year, they just need some patience instead of distorting the market with obscene amounts of money in a short space of time.

      In any case the rules are there and apply to everyone so there are no mitigating circumstances for City, they are cheats pure and simple and the fact that they tried to frustrate the investigation will count against them, plus the fact that this isn't their first offence.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #153: Feb 18, 2020 12:09:03 pm
      I think city deserve the ban. Not for breaking the rules, simply for sheer stupidity.
      You sign a sponsorship deal for £60m but only take a small percentage of it and bank roll £50 odd million yourselves.
      All the legal and financial brains they must have working for them and that was the BEST means of circumventing the rules they could come up with?
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #154: Feb 18, 2020 06:05:51 pm
      Maybe I don't know enough. But shouldn't a man city thread be moved out of the Kop? Or how can a man city thread be in the Kop? Can someone help to explain?
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #155: Feb 18, 2020 07:54:12 pm
      Maybe I don't know enough. But shouldn't a man city thread be moved out of the Kop? Or how can a man city thread be in the Kop? Can someone help to explain?

      Yeah we're being unbearably smug cu*ts buzzing off manc tw*ts!!
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #156: Feb 18, 2020 08:04:10 pm
      Maybe I don't know enough. But shouldn't a man city thread be moved out of the Kop? Or how can a man city thread be in the Kop? Can someone help to explain?

      That's a good point. Thought about it, been reviewed by VAR, and here is just fine for now.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #157: Feb 18, 2020 11:12:47 pm
      Go Gary, going from licking Fergies balls to loving City.

      Judas w**ker!

      The thing is with Rat Boy, he has a face and demeanour that instantly creates a persona of a hatable creepy little arse wipe.
       As soon as he opens his grotesque mouth, he removes any doubt.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #158: Feb 19, 2020 09:56:18 am
      think more sh*t will be coming their way, Attacking UEFA isn't a smart thing to do is it and they broke rules they agreed to abide by, time to accept the punishment and move on. But vast wealth brings a sense of the "untouchables" and City owners believe they are not like the rest of us and can do as they see fit.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #159: Feb 19, 2020 10:08:55 am
      think more sh*t will be coming their way, Attacking UEFA isn't a smart thing to do is it and they broke rules they agreed to abide by, time to accept the punishment and move on. But vast wealth brings a sense of the "untouchables" and City owners believe they are not like the rest of us and can do as they see fit.

      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/18/manchester-city-could-face-new-uefa-investigation-into-abu-dhabi-sponsors-football
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #160: Feb 19, 2020 11:19:06 am
      think more sh*t will be coming their way, Attacking UEFA isn't a smart thing to do is it and they broke rules they agreed to abide by, time to accept the punishment and move on. But vast wealth brings a sense of the "untouchables" and City owners believe they are not like the rest of us and can do as they see fit.

      You may be correct, I think the smart play form City would probably be to shut the f**k up and accept the punishment, if they fight fire with fire there will only be one loser, one way or another.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #161: Feb 19, 2020 02:47:42 pm

      Yeah, they've made it now so it's almost impossible for UEFA or the FA to do nothing. Not just with their cheating, but they way they've handled things publicly...it's almost as if they had a meeting and said "Right. What would really be cool is to undergo disciplinary action from the likes of UEFA and the FA. How can we make sure we get fines, bans and point deductions? Who has the plan?"

      Fine with me.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #162: Feb 19, 2020 05:38:27 pm
      Yeah, they've made it now so it's almost impossible for UEFA or the FA to do nothing. Not just with their cheating, but they way they've handled things publicly...it's almost as if they had a meeting and said "Right. What would really be cool is to undergo disciplinary action from the likes of UEFA and the FA. How can we make sure we get fines, bans and point deductions? Who has the plan?"

      Fine with me.

      Surely gotta go down as the most cack handed mismanagement of a Football club since the Leeds United debarkle. Loaded up the books with phoney sponsorship deals to camelflage bankrolling the club. Total screw up. CAS should increase the ban to 3 years if any more shenanigans come to light. If any semblance of fairness or for UEFA to have any teeth the 2 year ban should be at least upheld.

      They rode roughshod over the integrity of the game with breathtaking arrogance...throw the bleedin' book at them.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #163: Feb 19, 2020 10:58:33 pm
      Quote from JD

      There will have to be some form of ban, even if its reduced for one season, otherwise UEFA's FFP may as well be scrapped.

      UEFA have done their job and applied a  punishment that sends out a strong statement. What happens beyond that, is out of their hands to an extent.

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      Well they have changed the QC because City will finish in the top 4 and unless CAS overturn the UEFA decision, then a team OUTSIDE the top 4 will take City's place. On the other point you made in saying teams needed to know the score so they can plan ahead,well UEFA's decisions aren't made quicker to help other teams. May be for the sake of expediency but not to give any club any help.

      It's not to help teams, but it's their competition, and they need to know what teams will participate before it starts. The draw for the 1st qualifying round is just a couple of weeks after Istanbul. Personally, I think it will be decided in April. But they can't afford to wait until May 18 to announce their decision in case it upsets Burnley or someone in the chasing pack.

      The criteria has not changed. If the sanction is upheld, it's a straightforward process of just replacing one team name with the next in line.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #164: Feb 20, 2020 01:43:19 pm
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #165: Feb 21, 2020 11:39:02 pm
      FUCCKKK OFF MANCITY, YOU AINT GOT NO HISTORY..


      6 EUROPEAN CUPS & (19) LEAGUES

      THATS WHAT WE CALL HISTORY!
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #166: Feb 22, 2020 06:57:01 am
      FUCCKKK OFF MANCITY, YOU AINT GOT NO HISTORY..


      6 EUROPEAN CUPS & (19) LEAGUES

      THATS WHAT WE CALL HISTORY!

      And we are not finished yet.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #167: Feb 22, 2020 10:45:41 am
      whilst thinking relegation would also be appropriate given other team punishments I just have this little voice in my head saying Uefa is Corrupt and somehow City like PSG can buy there way out of this . If they do UEFA is surely finished.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #168: Feb 22, 2020 10:47:34 am
      whilst thinking relegation would also be appropriate given other team punishments I just have this little voice in my head saying Uefa is Corrupt and somehow City like PSG can buy there way out of this . If they do UEFA is surely finished.

      If Uefa was corrupt why did they hand out a 2-year ban and £25 million fine???

      Do you mean that CAS is corrupt?

      Both will be under a microscope here, so I very much doubt they will be soft on Citeh, I think the punishment will stand, otherwise FFP might as well be abolished.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #169: Feb 22, 2020 12:32:15 pm
      If Uefa was corrupt why did they hand out a 2-year ban and £25 million fine???

      Do you mean that CAS is corrupt?

      Both will be under a microscope here, so I very much doubt they will be soft on Citeh, I think the punishment will stand, otherwise FFP might as well be abolished.

      They can hardly back down now but it's gone to CAS and UEFA have I think purposely given CAS wriggle room. It could end up being the ban reduced to 1 season or if City do prove that they have only committed a minor transgression of the FFP rules it could be the CAS will suspend the ban untill City have complied with the rules over the next 3 year qualifying period.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #170: Feb 22, 2020 12:50:40 pm
      City could well cite PSG's case and claim their sponsorship contracts are much the same as PSG

      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/sports/psg-uefa-ffp.html

      Integrity is in short supply.

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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #171: Feb 22, 2020 01:38:23 pm
      City could well cite PSG's case and claim their sponsorship contracts are much the same as PSG

      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/sports/psg-uefa-ffp.html

      Integrity is in short supply.



      exactly never underestimate the arrogance and power of the super rich.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #172: Feb 22, 2020 02:37:45 pm
      City could well cite PSG's case and claim their sponsorship contracts are much the same as PSG

      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/sports/psg-uefa-ffp.html

      Integrity is in short supply.



      So two wrongs do make a right and you can falsify records and block investigations. If this penalty gets reduced then all credibility of the governing bodies vanishes, it will be a free for all.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #173: Feb 22, 2020 03:22:34 pm
      exactly never underestimate the arrogance and power of the super rich.

      And too many people/clubs are making too much money for them to hold uefa accountable, certainly not a given that city will be punished.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #174: Feb 22, 2020 08:19:05 pm
      sterling could be first to jump ship..to Ray-alll.

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