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      Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban

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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #115: Feb 17, 2020 11:48:13 am
      Talk of the league maybe stripping them of titles.

      They will appeal of course, I can see the Europe ban being reduced 1 season out of comp and maybe a transfer ban. or reduced to a transfer ban, that may hurt them more with theyre old squad. ;D
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #116: Feb 17, 2020 11:51:32 am
      Getting a lot of sympathy these fuckers, they don’t deserve it, they broke the rules and should face the consequences, hiring the guy who introduced the rules should have been the tell tale sign of Abu Dhabi trying to find ways to circumvent the rules.

      Just a side note, FairPlay to FSG for sticking with their FFP and actually build a legacy that should see us in good stead for many years to come.

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      Reply #117: Feb 17, 2020 11:57:11 am
      Just a side note, FairPlay to FSG for sticking with their FFP and actually build a legacy that should see us in good stead for many years to come.

      They've been excellent, the foundations they are building at the club will last longer than anything being built at City. I can see them fading as soon as their owners get bored of them, whilst we will only get stronger.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #118: Feb 17, 2020 12:26:25 pm
      Looks like Cardigan plans to stick around regardless of the ban - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51530260

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      Pep Guardiola has told friends he intends to stay at Manchester City despite the club's two-year ban from the Champions League.

      Unless City overturn the ban imposed by Uefa on Friday, they will not compete in European football until 2022 after this season.

      Guardiola's contract is due to expire in 2021.

      He is expected to speak about the subject for the first time on Wednesday.

      His contract does have a break clause at the end of this season and it was anticipated he would activate it should City fail to win their appeal which they will be submitting to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in the next few days.

      However, it is understood the 49-year-old has said he will not be doing that and remains committed to the club.

      Guardiola is likely to discuss the issue after Wednesday's rearranged Premier League game against West Ham.

      In a bizarre situation, neither side has played since the initial game was postponed due to bad weather on 9 February.

      As both clubs held pre-match news conferences two days before the game was supposed to be played, they have been told by the Premier League there is no contractual requirement to hold another and it is understood neither side will do so.

      Doesn't really change much, but I bet he leaves in 2021 at the end of his contract if he doesn't go before then.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #119: Feb 17, 2020 01:06:13 pm
      Weird bunch of cu*ts them city fans.
      Saying F**k the CL, the Prem the better of the two cups. That’s the Prem they have no chance of wining this season.
      The next paragraph, they saying, when we win the CL this season, blah blah blah!
      Because they started the season as favourites with the bookies, they think it’s nailed on 😂
      That blue moon site is posted on, by a load of crack pots.
      When they eventually get sanctioned by the FA, they'll be saying....
      That league cup, that’s the one to win, F**k the rest. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #120: Feb 17, 2020 01:06:55 pm
      Looks like Cardigan plans to stick around regardless of the ban - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51530260

      Doesn't really change much, but I bet he leaves in 2021 at the end of his contract if he doesn't go before then.

      Can you imagine the fume if he did F**k off & left the club in the position they find themselves in..? Would have zero credibility left.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #121: Feb 17, 2020 01:21:59 pm
      Looks like Cardigan plans to stick around regardless of the ban - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51530260

      Doesn't really change much, but I bet he leaves in 2021 at the end of his contract if he doesn't go before then.

      "has told friends"

      "it is understood"

      Codewords for 'we're pulling sh*t out of our ass here'. I'd be surprised if he wasn't at Juve next season.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #122: Feb 17, 2020 01:35:56 pm
      If Pep does end up saying he's staying then they must be pretty confident of getting it all overturned.

      No way he stays with that ban in place.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #123: Feb 17, 2020 02:05:17 pm
      If Pep does end up saying he's staying then they must be pretty confident of getting it all overturned.

      No way he stays with that ban in place.

      I would be surprised if they manage to get it all overturned, maybe it'll be reduced to a 1 season ban at worst.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #124: Feb 17, 2020 02:16:54 pm
      just edging his bets until the final verdict is given then he will be off like a scalded Cat
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #125: Feb 17, 2020 03:58:45 pm
      just edging his bets until the final verdict is given then he will be off like a scalded Cat

      or he'll just treat it like a sabbatical and give himself plenty of time to pick his next club whilst picking up a hefty pay check.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #126: Feb 17, 2020 04:26:02 pm
      "has told friends"

      "it is understood"

      Codewords for 'we're pulling sh*t out of our ass here'. I'd be surprised if he wasn't at Juve next season.

      Wouldn't going back to Barca be the preferred narrative for him, returning champion coming to make right all that has gone wrong since he left? I don't think the guy they hired a few weeks ago is likely to stick very long, especially if they work out a deal to bring back Pep.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #127: Feb 17, 2020 06:02:04 pm
      Talk of pep possibly going to Juve !
      Why don’t he go to someone like Palma, so we can see him build s side instead of buying one.
      Opportunity to prove his metal here 😁
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #128: Feb 17, 2020 06:12:29 pm
      Talk of pep possibly going to Juve !
      Why don’t he go to someone like Palma, so we can see him build s side instead of buying one.
      Opportunity to prove his metal here 😁

      Yep.
      A true world class manager would be able to build a team, like Klopp has done before with very limited resources.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #129: Feb 17, 2020 06:23:08 pm
      If the other party cheated then yes we did win it fair and square, same as last year, it would however mean that  Manure also get an extra title for 2017/18 although that's tougher to claim considering how far back they were.



      Wouldn't they get awarded the Agueroooooooooooooooo last minute one!!

      F**k that I just want titles we've won....but in the meantime let's enjoy the complete and utter meltdown by them moss side virgins :laugh:
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #130: Feb 17, 2020 06:25:37 pm
      Weird bunch of cu*ts them city fans.

      When they eventually get sanctioned by the FA, they'll be saying....


      It's all the Dippoh's fault blah blah blah wrecked coach etc etc
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #131: Feb 17, 2020 06:28:44 pm
      Yep.
      A true world class manager would be able to build a team, like Klopp has done before with very limited resources.

      I don't think he could manage that, he seems to rely heavily on having a team already built for him. Klopp, on the other hand, could probably get Yeovil into the Premier League if he went there. ;D
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #132: Feb 17, 2020 07:37:51 pm
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      I wouldn’t want the title, they won that fair & square to be honest, we gave it our best that season & the disappointment of loosing by 1 point has taken us to the level we have this season.

      I would want it. You couldn't run a parade through the streets granted, but it would mean equalling that title record and killing off that chant, rather earlier than anticipated.

      They didn't win it fair and square tbh, which is sort of the point about the whole thing. If athletes from Olympics years ago are found to have cheated, they are stripped of their medals, and officially their results are not recognised and therefore they won nothing.

      Having said that, I don't think it will happen tbh, but there must be zero tolerance for cheats in football, on or off the pitch.

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      But it's thrown the top 4 into question. They will appeal it but the ruling interferes with the Premier League competition. City deserve all they get but the ruling should've been left to the end of the season.

      As a certain tennis player once said, "you cannot be serious".

      For arguments sake, we finish 5th in May and think we're in Europe. We've had enough experience of it to know what it's like in recent years. Then we hear in June that someone else above us have been banned, and because we finished 5th we will play in the European Cup, subject to appeal. Apart from being forced to wait around for something we have no control over and can do nothing about, how are we supposed to draw up transfer budgets and sign new players, if we don't know what competition we are going to play in Europe? While those who finished below us are in an even worse position, they don't know if they will be in Europe or not or even what round of Europe they will enter in, waiting around like zombies for the appeal to be heard and the decision to be made. It would be completely ludicrous, and you would be one of the many on here complaining why it took so long. In that case, time would not be on our side. The qualifiers start at the end of June.

      Of course the decision has to be made before the end of the season, so the appeals process can end by then. Atm, they're still in Europe until such time as CAS rule otherwise, and so we have to prepare for the likelihood that CAS will not uphold the UEFA sanction. I can't see the full original sanction upheld, they usually don't unless the case is waterproof.

      But if it is upheld, it's Pandoras Box opened. The whole point of the club set up is to lay their blood money all over the European Cup. All the mercenaries will flee the nest, up to and including the head man. None of them have the bottle to wait 3 years to play in Europe. They'll just pis off somewhere else. And even if they get through UEFA, they still have the FA to deal with. Just what a dull, ordinary, colourless, soulless cash cow franchise for a tyrannical offshore regime deserve.

      If they are banned, you may as well hand us the league title for those coming years also, because nobody else is capable of living with our team. The next team down finished 25 points behind us last year, and are already 25 points behind us this year. It took us 2 years to close that gap, it's going to take the rest much longer than that.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #133: Feb 17, 2020 08:25:34 pm
      I would want it. You couldn't run a parade through the streets granted, but it would mean equalling that title record and killing off that chant, rather earlier than anticipated.

      They didn't win it fair and square tbh, which is sort of the point about the whole thing. If athletes from Olympics years ago are found to have cheated, they are stripped of their medals, and officially their results are not recognised and therefore they won nothing.

      Having said that, I don't think it will happen tbh, but there must be zero tolerance for cheats in football, on or off the pitch.

      As a certain tennis player once said, "you cannot be serious".

      For arguments sake, we finish 5th in May and think we're in Europe. We've had enough experience of it to know what it's like in recent years. Then we hear in June that someone else above us have been banned, and because we finished 5th we will play in the European Cup, subject to appeal. Apart from being forced to wait around for something we have no control over and can do nothing about, how are we supposed to draw up transfer budgets and sign new players, if we don't know what competition we are going to play in Europe? While those who finished below us are in an even worse position, they don't know if they will be in Europe or not or even what round of Europe they will enter in, waiting around like zombies for the appeal to be heard and the decision to be made. It would be completely ludicrous, and you would be one of the many on here complaining why it took so long. In that case, time would not be on our side. The qualifiers start at the end of June.

      Of course the decision has to be made before the end of the season, so the appeals process can end by then. Atm, they're still in Europe until such time as CAS rule otherwise, and so we have to prepare for the likelihood that CAS will not uphold the UEFA sanction. I can't see the full original sanction upheld, they usually don't unless the case is waterproof.

      But if it is upheld, it's Pandoras Box opened. The whole point of the club set up is to lay their blood money all over the European Cup. All the mercenaries will flee the nest, up to and including the head man. None of them have the bottle to wait 3 years to play in Europe. They'll just pis off somewhere else. And even if they get through UEFA, they still have the FA to deal with. Just what a dull, ordinary, colourless, soulless cash cow franchise for a tyrannical offshore regime deserve.

      If they are banned, you may as well hand us the league title for those coming years also, because nobody else is capable of living with our team. The next team down finished 25 points behind us last year, and are already 25 points behind us this year. It took us 2 years to close that gap, it's going to take the rest much longer than that.

      There's no guarantee the CAS will report even before the start of next season. Uefa have effectively changed the qualification criteria mid seaon. The ban will be cut back to one year, and the FA as I said earlier,will likely give City a 15pt deduction suspended for 5 years.

      All the rest of your post is conjecture is it not. Always intrested to read your posts, although of late there's a hint of waffle being interspersed with the odd good idea.

      Of course Mancheater City deserve all they get and they have lived up to their nickname. Their fans will bemoan and call UEFA every name under the sun but they have been let down by City's bean counters as they have form in this direction to the tune of a £50m fine in 2014.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #134: Feb 17, 2020 08:47:52 pm
      If, and you have to say it's a big if, the ban is upheld then they have the same problem as has befallen Saracens in RU. They will then have to prove they have put their house in order and aren't still breaking the rules.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #135: Feb 17, 2020 08:49:41 pm
      There's no guarantee the CAS will report even before the start of next season. Uefa have effectively changed the qualification criteria mid seaon. The ban will be cut back to one year, and the FA as I said earlier,will likely give City a 15pt deduction suspended for 5 years.

      All the rest of your post is conjecture is it not. Always intrested to read your posts, although of late there's a hint of waffle being interspersed with the odd good idea.

      Of course Mancheater City deserve all they get and they have lived up to their nickname. Their fans will bemoan and call UEFA every name under the sun but they have been let down by City's bean counters as they have form in this direction to the tune of a £50m fine in 2014.

      Your post is also conjecture or do you know for a fact that cas will reduce the punishment and what the Premier league will do?

      I think the punishment will be upheld and the Prem will have to take action themselves.
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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #136: Feb 17, 2020 08:56:22 pm
      Your post is also conjecture or do you know for a fact that cas will reduce the punishment and what the Premier league will do?

      I think the punishment will be upheld and the Prem will have to take action themselves.

      End of the day it won't be the prem, it'll be the FA that will have to deal with it and then you get into the confusing side of the FA/Prem's FFP which is a little bit more relaxed than UEFA's.

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      Re: Man City - 2 Year Champions League Ban
      Reply #137: Feb 17, 2020 08:59:29 pm
      Your post is also conjecture or do you know for a fact that cas will reduce the punishment and what the Premier league will do?

      I think the punishment will be upheld and the Prem will have to take action themselves.

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