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      Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #400: Jan 24, 2020 10:03:31 am
      You all need to watch the winning goal back again. Salah dribbled himself into another hole? Give me a break! When he gets the ball he is the ONLY Liverpool player in the box and there are FIVE Wolves defenders (4 of them in close proximity). Salah stops in his tracks, throws in a dragback and then megs a defender. It was a wonderful piece of skill, his next touch goes awry and Hendo runs onto it and plays in Bobby for the winner. None of that happens without an incredible piece of skill in the tightest of spaces.

      Heimy you call him out EVERY single game he doesn't score (and go quiet when he does) and yet players like Ox (who was invisible last night) or others can have a 6/10 game and not get a mention. You have even advocated playing Ox ahead of Salah as a forward. Trust me, Ox would never even get into the positions Salah does in the first place.

      To be honest I don't understand how LFC fans can be calling players out so frequently after we win every week. They're all f***in brilliant and we should all be on our hands and knees bowing to the one of the best LFC teams in history.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #401: Jan 24, 2020 10:50:41 am
      You all need to watch the winning goal back again. Salah dribbled himself into another hole? Give me a break! When he gets the ball he is the ONLY Liverpool player in the box and there are FIVE Wolves defenders (4 of them in close proximity). Salah stops in his tracks, throws in a dragback and then megs a defender. It was a wonderful piece of skill, his next touch goes awry and Hendo runs onto it and plays in Bobby for the winner. None of that happens without an incredible piece of skill in the tightest of spaces.

      Heimy you call him out EVERY single game he doesn't score (and go quiet when he does) and yet players like Ox (who was invisible last night) or others can have a 6/10 game and not get a mention. You have even advocated playing Ox ahead of Salah as a forward. Trust me, Ox would never even get into the positions Salah does in the first place.

      To be honest I don't understand how LFC fans can be calling players out so frequently after we win every week. They're all f***in brilliant and we should all be on our hands and knees bowing to the one of the best LFC teams in history.

      We have the right to demand 10/10 performance every time even though none of us or the players are perfect ourselves. But I don't think I'm so shameless. I'm not perfect meself.

      When Mo doesn't score the idea is to leave him out in the next match. But when he's left out, we question why he was left out. I don't think most of us including you are this double minded.

      Credit where it is due. Without him, and his poor touch, the goal wouldn't have happened.

      How I love this saying from a top government official - Black cat or white cat, as long as the cat catches mice, it's a good cat.

      Good touch or bad touch, as long as the play leads to a goal, it's a good play.

      Hollywood goal or scrappy/lucky goal, as long as the goals lead to three points they are all good goals.

      Before it was 30 points to the title. Now it's 27 points. Getting there....
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      Reply #402: Jan 24, 2020 10:58:42 am
      Bloody brilliant again, this was arguably one of the hardest away games we will face. Job done.

      Im pissed with salah, not for LFC performance as he was involved in loads and works his socks off. But I triple captained him this week on FF was hoping for a goal or 2.

      But LFC win is most important.

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      Reply #403: Jan 24, 2020 11:53:20 am
      Fantastic win but that 2nd half is arguably the worst we’ve played in a long time. They were in virtual complete control from half time up to when we got the winner, I thought the first half we were the better team and almost made them run out of ideas and had Traore under control. 2nd half we couldn’t cope with him for large parts, players were missing tackles, passes were stray and the first touch was sloppy. But we showed our resilience, Alisson made vital saves again and we got the all important 2nd goal.

      You don’t get to 67 out of 69 points without an element of luck from time to time and this was never going to be an easy game, Wolves excel against the bigger teams.

      Shame about Mane but we’ve got until Wednesday for the West Ham game so he could be okay by then....hopefully! He didn’t look to have any trouble walking off so hopefully was more of a precaution than anything.

      But we don’t get injuries....yeah right!!
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      Reply #404: Jan 24, 2020 12:00:06 pm
      Fantastic win but that 2nd half is arguably the worst we’ve played in a long time. They were in virtual complete control from half time up to when we got the winner, I thought the first half we were the better team and almost made them run out of ideas and had Traore under control. 2nd half we couldn’t cope with him for large parts, players were missing tackles, passes were stray and the first touch was sloppy. But we showed our resilience, Alisson made vital saves again and we got the all important 2nd goal.

      You don’t get to 67 out of 69 points without an element of luck from time to time and this was never going to be an easy game, Wolves excel against the bigger teams.

      Shame about Mane but we’ve got until Wednesday for the West Ham game so he could be okay by then....hopefully! He didn’t look to have any trouble walking off so hopefully was more of a precaution than anything.

      But we don’t get injuries....yeah right!!

      If it is hamstring Mane will probably miss the FA cup, west ham and maybe Southampton games, they wont rush him. we have a wee break after southampton game, so that helps.

      We can win all those games without him NP.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #405: Jan 24, 2020 12:14:07 pm
      That second half in particular was poor tactically with full backs just pumping balls down the flanks and squandering possession. The front three couldn’t make a simple 10 yard pass.
      We certainly gave Wolves the incentive to come onto us and when they did we couldn’t handle their press particularly in midfield, this was alleviated a bit by Fab coming on, he certainly knows how to calm things down keep it simple and control possession.

      The loss of Mane didn’t help as nothing scares defenders like pace, maybe Origi should have been his replacement rather than Minamino who looked a but overawed.

      Another 3 pts and we march on.
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      Reply #406: Jan 24, 2020 12:19:39 pm
      That second half in particular was poor tactically with full backs just pumping balls down the flanks and squandering possession. The front three couldn’t make a simple 10 yard pass.
      We certainly gave Wolves the incentive to come onto us and when they did we couldn’t handle their press particularly in midfield, this was alleviated a bit by Fab coming on, he certainly knows how to calm things down keep it simple and control possession.

      The loss of Mane didn’t help as nothing scares defenders like pace, maybe Origi should have been his replacement rather than Minamino who looked a but overawed.

      Another 3 pts and we march on.

      Minamino picked up a bit of a calf injury not long after coming on, had treatment on it at half time so that could have been why. Even so though, it’s not an easy game to come into and make your league debut.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #407: Jan 24, 2020 12:45:04 pm
      Imagine having our old midfield of stevie g , xabi and mash now in this team . Not our midfield is bad or anything but those three in our team now would be unreal

      Our midfield is not bad at all BUT it could be better, imagine if we had de Bruyne in our team for example or even Maddison, I think we either need to drop Bobby into midfield or get another AM in the summer
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #408: Jan 24, 2020 01:07:35 pm
      You all need to watch the winning goal back again. Salah dribbled himself into another hole? Give me a break! When he gets the ball he is the ONLY Liverpool player in the box and there are FIVE Wolves defenders (4 of them in close proximity). Salah stops in his tracks, throws in a dragback and then megs a defender. It was a wonderful piece of skill, his next touch goes awry and Hendo runs onto it and plays in Bobby for the winner. None of that happens without an incredible piece of skill in the tightest of spaces.

      Heimy you call him out EVERY single game he doesn't score (and go quiet when he does) and yet players like Ox (who was invisible last night) or others can have a 6/10 game and not get a mention. You have even advocated playing Ox ahead of Salah as a forward. Trust me, Ox would never even get into the positions Salah does in the first place.

      To be honest I don't understand how LFC fans can be calling players out so frequently after we win every week. They're all f***in brilliant and we should all be on our hands and knees bowing to the one of the best LFC teams in history.

      I've watched it mate. He lost the ball.

      The key moment is after the nutmeg, he needed to play the ball to Gini who was running central. That would have been the best move, but instead he took an extra touch. Luckily it fell to Henderson, but equally it could have been wasted and cleared away. No one is disputing the skill - which was brilliant - but it's that selfishness, the extra touches, the extra bit of "me" in him. Much like when he could have passed to Minamino to score instead earlier in the game. He just needs to cut out the selfishness and be more willing to pass.
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      Reply #409: Jan 24, 2020 01:15:13 pm
      Hendo hasn't been getting many headlines, but good to see him with a goal and assist last night. Wonder is Jürgen encouraging him to get forward and shoot a little bit more - could've had one vs Manure too - maybe not, just one of those nights in the right place at the right time.

      But he has played a lot of games and one of Jurgens first names on the teamsheet.

      Not getting carried away, but starting to imagine the most amazing, incredible Hendo shuffle of them all...

      The 'We need to talk about Henderson' thread seems a loooong time ago :)

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      Reply #410: Jan 24, 2020 01:22:55 pm
      Great win and a good game to watch. One of our toughest tests yet.

      9 left!!!!

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #411: Jan 24, 2020 01:24:22 pm
      I've watched it mate. He lost the ball.

      The key moment is after the nutmeg, he needed to play the ball to Gini who was running central. That would have been the best move, but instead he took an extra touch. Luckily it fell to Henderson, but equally it could have been wasted and cleared away. No one is disputing the skill - which was brilliant - but it's that selfishness, the extra touches, the extra bit of "me" in him. Much like when he could have passed to Minamino to score instead earlier in the game. He just needs to cut out the selfishness and be more willing to pass.

      Easy to say though when watching back on TV, especially when it gets slowed down.

      He was being crowded, there's a load of players around him, I doubt he could see.

      I don't think he's selfish, I think he just doesn't see.
      Like the pass to Minamino; there was a player in the way, a pass in front of that player brings the keeper into play, even if the ball isn't intercepted.
      Things look an awful lot different when you're at pitch level, not very tall, and everything happens so fast.
      A split second and the passing lane is gone.
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      Reply #412: Jan 24, 2020 02:11:27 pm
      Easy to say though when watching back on TV, especially when it gets slowed down.

      He was being crowded, there's a load of players around him, I doubt he could see.

      I don't think he's selfish, I think he just doesn't see.
      Like the pass to Minamino; there was a player in the way, a pass in front of that player brings the keeper into play, even if the ball isn't intercepted.
      Things look an awful lot different when you're at pitch level, not very tall, and everything happens so fast.
      A split second and the passing lane is gone.

      Sense at last about Mo.

      F**k me some of the sh*t he gets for taking players on and having a shot on goal is ridiculous.

      Personally I like to see strikers being a bit selfish.

      The mans been immense since he joined.

      We’re close to our first title in 30 years and people having a dig demanding 10/10 performances have a word will ya.
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      Reply #413: Jan 24, 2020 02:19:51 pm
      It was far from our best performance but it was probably our best result in lots of ways. Credit to Wolves, they played very well in the second half.

      Immense effort from VVD and Gomez at the back, midfield tireless and enough quality up front as usual, but special mention to MOM Jordan Henderson. He is in the form of his life and thoroughly deserves this success. Brilliant last night yet again.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #414: Jan 24, 2020 02:38:52 pm
      What a game great result, sloppy second half, thought we were going to blow it, but onwards and upwards. CORY
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #415: Jan 24, 2020 05:14:09 pm
      Every player can improve and the only thing Salah needs to improve is his decision making and evaluation of who has the best chance of scoring because at the moment its crap, he has the playing mindset of a spoilt and pampered child who refuses to pass the ball, its all me me me when in front of goal and the very best strikers are not like that.


      Ffs give it a rest. All you do is find fault.
      You came on here yesterday and lambasted some one for saying Wolves would be a hard game.
      He was right, they pushed us all the way and we could easily of dropped points.
      I can't  believe you can find fault in a team that is near perfect for the season.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #416: Jan 24, 2020 05:22:44 pm
      Can’t for the life of me understand all this disgruntlement over Salah being shellfish, in the whole history of the beautiful game the role of striking has always had a air of selfishness, some of the most successful sides on the planet have operated with a lone selfish striker, in more recent times of course clubs, mangers have opted for a double act like our very own Keegan & Toshack etc, but more often than not it’s a been one man band kind of deal,


      Liverpool of course like to buck the trend so when Jürgen came in he introduced playing without a striker per se altogether, some so called experts were aghast, but you only have look at our scoring stats to see how successful we have been, and in PARTICULAR, a certain Mohammed Salah,

      Funny thing is he’s not a striker, not like a Fowler, or a Rushy or that crazy genius Suarez, or even wee Micky O,  Mo is Mo, he’s a phenomenal player, sometimes he’ll astound us all when he swivels his hips and slaloms his way around 3, 4, 5 defenders , aka Spuds & Watford and then slams the ball home, other times he’ll frustrate the haemorrhoids off you for not passing  the f***in ball,  but dya know what I wouldn’t have it any other way, he makes things happen, he creates panic, and sometimes he might even pass to one of his wee pals, only sometimes though.

      Shellfish my barnacled arse, Leave Him Alone Ffs ! !





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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #417: Jan 24, 2020 05:26:37 pm
      Sense at last about Mo.

      F**k me some of the sh*t he gets for taking players on and having a shot on goal is ridiculous.

      Personally I like to see strikers being a bit selfish.

      The mans been immense since he joined.

      We’re close to our first title in 30 years and people having a dig demanding 10/10 performances have a word will ya.

      This 100% ask any striker, they're all greedy most of the time. That's what we want. His goals return for us is phenomenal, and his assist rate is pretty decent too. All good and all that stuff. :)
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #418: Jan 26, 2020 12:01:35 am
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      As expected, that was as tough as it can get.  Think Wolves have an excellent chance of reaching the Champions League.

      But we are on a different planet.

      I've seen us win a few titles but this Liverpool team are probably the greatest of the lot I've seen.

      They've played us 4 times in the league since they got up. Lost every game and scored once. They're better than average but drawing at home to Newcastle and Burnley, and losing at Watford are the kind of results that have them keeping the mancs company in the table.

      In this game, they had 2 shots on target and 0 whatsoever after Fabinho came on. So it's another win and 27 more points required for us to get this party started. 
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #419: Jan 26, 2020 12:30:49 am
      They've played us 4 times in the league since they got up. Lost every game and scored once. They're better than average but drawing at home to Newcastle and Burnley, and losing at Watford are the kind of results that have them keeping the mancs company in the table.

      In this game, they had 2 shots on target and 0 whatsoever after Fabinho came on. So it's another win and 27 more points required for us to get this party started. 

      Strange, that was a pretty tough game, thought they were very decent, but those stats make them seem crap.
      Well comparatively .......... 🤷🏼‍♂️ Suppose they are really.

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