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      Shrewsbury 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      king kenny
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      Re: Shrewsbury 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #400: Jan 27, 2020 06:17:38 pm
      could do aye.

      May show the ones that didnt knock on door in a bad light.

      But also the fitness guys would probably step in and say nope. go and take your week off. ;D

      Yeh off course but it is a difficult one.  And Jürgen always has his players on top of his agendas.  Personally think it is a good opportunity for for the fringe players and those coming from injury.   Apart from Origi's that have done everything but not selected that isn't there fault they deserve their break.   It is hard to work all week do all the training have yourself fully tuned up for match day then not to even be given the opportunity maybe not be physical but mentally need a rest definitely.   
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      Reply #401: Jan 27, 2020 06:26:34 pm
      couldn't give a f**k about the FA cup.

      The league is all that matters this year, and anything that helps us win it is fine by me.

      We are 16 points clear with a game in hand  do you really see 4 more games derailing that ?
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      Re: Shrewsbury 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #402: Jan 27, 2020 06:54:21 pm
      We are 16 points clear with a game in hand  do you really see 4 more games derailing that ?

      Personally see it more of a distraction if the club starts kicking up a fuss over the scheduling of it, playing the kids and Klopp not bothering to even manage the kids for it.
      Yes it’s badly organised and another sign of their incompetence but we have nobody to blame for this replay but ourselves so unfortunately, just have to suck it up and not create a load of controversy about it all.

      It’s obviously a different situation but back when Rafa had his rant about Fergie, even though he was right, it wasn’t necessary and we then slipped a bit. Now with all this taking a stand over the sake of having the break cut short by 2 or 3 days, is it really needed? Do we need this being the focus on the club now?
      Even though it’s another game, it’s early on in the break, we have several players in need of minutes and if the players actually do a proper job this time, there’s no reason why we need to make it a difficult game. It’s hardly like taking on City smack bang in the middle of the break is it.

      This is an incredible team we have this season, there’s no reason why we can’t clean house with all the silverware this season. Why lose that opportunity over the matter of principle? The possibility of going into the replay 19 points clear. It’s not going to derail our season taking it seriously and if it does, then the problem would extend beyond that one game.
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      Reply #403: Jan 27, 2020 07:01:24 pm
      Personally see it more of a distraction if the club starts kicking up a fuss over the scheduling of it, playing the kids and Klopp not bothering to even manage the kids for it.
      Yes it’s badly organised and another sign of their incompetence but we have nobody to blame for this replay but ourselves so unfortunately, just have to suck it up and not create a load of controversy about it all.

      It’s obviously a different situation but back when Rafa had his rant about Fergie, even though he was right, it wasn’t necessary and we then slipped a bit. Now with all this taking a stand over the sake of having the break cut short by 2 or 3 days, is it really needed? Do we need this being the focus on the club now?
      Even though it’s another game, it’s early on in the break, we have several players in need of minutes and if the players actually do a proper job this time, there’s no reason why we need to make it a difficult game. It’s hardly like taking on City is it.

      I think the actual break from Melwood will be following the Southampton game on the 1st until like Sunday the 9th, then the team would begin training together again on Monday the 10th or Tuesday the 11th in advance of the Norwich City match on Saturday the 15th.  It's a very modest break which I suppose is part of why Klopp is guarding it so jealously.
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      Reply #404: Jan 27, 2020 07:06:01 pm
      Yeh off course but it is a difficult one.  And Jürgen always has his players on top of his agendas.  Personally think it is a good opportunity for for the fringe players and those coming from injury.   Apart from Origi's that have done everything but not selected that isn't there fault they deserve their break.   It is hard to work all week do all the training have yourself fully tuned up for match day then not to even be given the opportunity maybe not be physical but mentally need a rest definitely.   

      DEFO. If I was the likes of lovren, shaq, naby id be saying Ill play boss, and only take a few days break.
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      Reply #405: Jan 27, 2020 07:09:41 pm
      DEFO. If I was the likes of lovren, shaq, naby id be saying Ill play boss, and only take a few days break.

      In any other place of work if you're offered a week's break you'd snap your f**king bosses hands off and take the hols. Why should they be any different?
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      Reply #406: Jan 27, 2020 07:14:46 pm
      Personally see it more of a distraction if the club starts kicking up a fuss over the scheduling of it, playing the kids and Klopp not bothering to even manage the kids for it.
      Yes it’s badly organised and another sign of their incompetence but we have nobody to blame for this replay but ourselves so unfortunately, just have to suck it up and not create a load of controversy about it all.

      It’s obviously a different situation but back when Rafa had his rant about Fergie, even though he was right, it wasn’t necessary and we then slipped a bit. Now with all this taking a stand over the sake of having the break cut short by 2 or 3 days, is it really needed? Do we need this being the focus on the club now?
      Even though it’s another game, it’s early on in the break, we have several players in need of minutes and if the players actually do a proper job this time, there’s no reason why we need to make it a difficult game. It’s hardly like taking on City smack bang in the middle of the break is it.

      This is an incredible team we have this season, there’s no reason why we can’t clean house with all the silverware this season. Why lose that opportunity over the matter of principle? The possibility of going into the replay 19 points clear. It’s not going to derail our season taking it seriously and if it does, then the problem would extend beyond that one game.

      Never said any different to what you have just said just reiterating the point this replay will have absolutely zero impact on the destination of the PL title
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      Re: Shrewsbury 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #407: Jan 27, 2020 07:23:31 pm
      In any other place of work if you're offered a week's break you'd snap your f**king bosses hands off and take the hols. Why should they be any different?

      In fairness their job is vastly different. It’s not like they are going to work for 9hrs+ a day, making money for someone else 5,6,7 days a week to keep a roof over their head.
      Can safely say if I was in their position and was given the choice out a week off or playing a bit more football then I’d be choosing to play, wouldn’t even have to think about it and I’m confident there will be players, who need the minutes who will have been disappointed to hear they won’t be playing.
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      Reply #408: Jan 27, 2020 07:41:49 pm
      Will we play the reserves at Chelsea if we get through?
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      Reply #409: Jan 27, 2020 07:45:42 pm
      In any other place of work if you're offered a week's break you'd snap your f**king bosses hands off and take the hols. Why should they be any different?

      Your 100% right man. but when these guys are injured, they get to go on paid holidays. ;D

      So long as it not like mega serious injuries like broken bits etc.
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      Reply #410: Jan 27, 2020 07:50:29 pm
      In fairness their job is vastly different. It’s not like they are going to work for 9hrs+ a day, making money for someone else 5,6,7 days a week to keep a roof over their head.


      Again I'm gonna defer to James Milner's book "Ask A Footballer" which I was reading over Christmas and even he says as much as he loves playing etc, there are still a lot of footballers that still see it as just their job!
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      Reply #411: Jan 27, 2020 10:06:31 pm
      Again I'm gonna defer to James Milner's book "Ask A Footballer" which I was reading over Christmas and even he says as much as he loves playing etc, there are still a lot of footballers that still see it as just their job!

      From this time yesterday I understand Jürgen's purpose in this much more - and as usual - I think he is right.

      You are probably correct that all of the players will take the holiday regardless of how much they've played or been injured.

      If one ore more of them who haven't played so much were to ask to stay and play, do you think Jürgen would permit it?

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      Reply #412: Jan 27, 2020 10:14:46 pm
      I think this is more to do with later rounds and Klopp not wanting to jeopardise CL games by having to play full teams vs Chelsea and the rest. Clear as day he cant be fu**ed with the cups.
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      Reply #413: Jan 27, 2020 10:31:41 pm


      If one ore more of them who haven't played so much were to ask to stay and play, do you think Jürgen would permit it?



      The more you think about it the more obvious it gets.  I don't think he allows them.  Maybe Minamino? He wants a winter break.   With such a busy schedule am sure most of the players would have planned something with their families weeks maybe months ago.   Then a few days before this happens and they have to cancel.   Easier idea why don't them Lazy B******* reschedule.  They won't and I don't think Klopp will.  The FA Cup is the loser but it is their own making.    Do they discuss it with other involved parties or just make decisions as they go and expect players, managers and Clubs just to follow their orders.
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      Reply #414: Jan 27, 2020 11:10:27 pm
      One of the reasons for this winter break is to give teams in the Champions League more time to prepare for the knockout stage but the FA in their wisdom, decided they would forgo replays AFTER the winter break.For the 5th round of the FA cup ties will be decided on the day, extra time and penalties..if needed.

      They kept the possibility of replays for the 4th round knowing full well any replay involving Premier league teams would clash with the winter break. Spurs, who are still in the C/L have to play a replay on Wed 5th Feb.

      But the Premier league, when the winter break was agreed, writes to all the Premier League teams and tells them to respect the winter break......pity the FA didn't.
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      Reply #415: Jan 28, 2020 02:09:45 am
      Jürgen is right on with this. FA doesn’t like it, they can suck it.
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      Reply #416: Jan 28, 2020 07:41:54 am
      Game is in 7 days and still no word on tickets.

      Think the club are hoping that if they just ignore the game it'll go away and they won't have to play it  :lmao:
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      Reply #417: Jan 28, 2020 08:11:08 am
      Game is in 7 days and still no word on tickets.

      Think the club are hoping that if they just ignore the game it'll go away and they won't have to play it  :lmao:

      Anyone else think the club might miss a trick here.
      Sell the tickets at a reduced rate and politely ask that season ticket holders and members don’t buy them.
      Might give a new generation of fans their first taste of Anfield.

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      Reply #418: Jan 28, 2020 08:37:35 am
      Anyone else think the club might miss a trick here.
      Sell the tickets at a reduced rate and politely ask that season ticket holders and members don’t buy them.
      Might give a new generation of fans their first taste of Anfield.

      That was similar to my thinking - Don't offer a credit, just let the ACS have their ticket at the reduced rate if they want with an optional opt-out which won't remove them from the scheme, then put the rest into a general sale. If members want to attend then their card gets activated, if non-members who don't usually get the chance want to attend then they get paper tickets.

      Could even have printed barcoded tickets if possible to save the logistics of posting the paper tickets out
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      Reply #419: Jan 28, 2020 01:03:14 pm
      Anyone else think the club might miss a trick here.
      Sell the tickets at a reduced rate and politely ask that season ticket holders and members don’t buy them.
      Might give a new generation of fans their first taste of Anfield.



      That's exactly what they've announced they are doing.
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      Reply #420: Jan 28, 2020 01:07:01 pm
      @JamesPearceLFC
      Good to see #LFC cutting ticket prices for FA Cup fourth round replay v Shrewsbury Town. Smart move.
      £15 for adults
      £5 for young adults
      £1 for kids

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      Decision made after discussions with both Shrewsbury Town and supporters groups.
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      Reply #421: Jan 28, 2020 02:15:13 pm
      Whole thing is becoming a bit of a side show, a distraction we don't need. Could claim Klopp could've dealt with it a bit better, bit to quick to reveal his hand. Nothing wrong with being a bit vague when dealing with the media but that's a very minor complaint.

      I can understand the FA kept the replays untill the 5th round to give lower league teams the oppotunity to get money spinning replays but we have our priorities and reserve the right to act accordingly.
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      Reply #422: Jan 28, 2020 02:28:26 pm
      Whole thing is becoming a bit of a side show, a distraction we don't need. Could claim Klopp could've dealt with it a bit better, bit to quick to reveal his hand. Nothing wrong with being a bit vague when dealing with the media but that's a very minor complaint.

      I can understand the FA kept the replays untill the 5th round to give lower league teams the oppotunity to get money spinning replays but we have our priorities and reserve the right to act accordingly.

      There is a very easy solution to these replay issues, offer the lower league team, if they are drawn as the home team, the opportunity to switch the match to be at the bigger club, problem solved in terms of money if they prefer that option.
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      Reply #423: Jan 28, 2020 02:37:44 pm
      There is a very easy solution to these replay issues, offer the lower league team, if they are drawn as the home team, the opportunity to switch the match to be at the bigger club, problem solved in terms of money if they prefer that option.

      Switching to the bigger ground/club has happened a few times in the past, sometimes on safety grounds. But smaller clubs now generally keep the game at home if they can. Seeding the premier league teams has been suggested just for the 3rd & 4th rounds. Basically to enable lower league teams a better chance of a money spinner.

      But in truth the competition has been devalued so much it's almost a distraction for clubs in the Premier League.At one end fighting for a seat at the top table.At the other end fighting to stay in the Premier League.
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      Reply #424: Jan 28, 2020 02:40:28 pm
      @JamesPearceLFC
      Good to see #LFC cutting ticket prices for FA Cup fourth round replay v Shrewsbury Town. Smart move.
      £15 for adults
      £5 for young adults
      £1 for kids

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      Decision made after discussions with both Shrewsbury Town and supporters groups.

      Hope for a full house and the chance for many first-timers to see a famous upset win for the kids.

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