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      Post 2020 General Election - Conservatives won

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      Shabs
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #25: Feb 24, 2020 03:44:52 pm
      Looks grim to say the least. Starmer looks a bit nervy. Long-Bailey is percieved to be to close to Corbyn. Labour has to step away from Corbyn and McDonnell,they are tainted. Labour will have to rely on Johnson making a balls of trade talks and deals with the US.

      Labour look crippled in the short, medium and long term.

      Corbyn & McDonnell offered hope & change for the better, Bailey & Burgon offer same policies without the false accusation of the Anti Semitism.. Starmer running on a EU policy which saw Labour lose the GE & one which Strmer backed & continues to do so..
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #26: Feb 27, 2020 09:29:35 am
      2010-2015:
      Flood defence budget cut by 14%, staff by 20%

      2016:
      Tories reject millions from EU for flooding.

      Since 2015:
      Funding for defences down by further £64m.

      If only there was some way of knowing why we’re so unprepared for the floods.
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #27: Feb 27, 2020 10:12:17 pm
      2010-2015:
      Flood defence budget cut by 14%, staff by 20%

      2016:
      Tories reject millions from EU for flooding.

      Since 2015:
      Funding for defences down by further £64m.

      If only there was some way of knowing why we’re so unprepared for the floods.

      It's mystery init..

      Cud it be to much rain...maybe...cud it be clogged up river beds...cudbe...cud it be Tory cuts...now come on now be SERIOUS..
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #28: Feb 27, 2020 10:28:34 pm
      No matter how much money had been spent on flood defences this weather has been truly exceptional with over a solid month of strong damaging winds coupled to torrential rain I cant remember a worse February .What the Gov should be doing is under writing Flood Insurance as its clearly not the fault of householders who have lived flood free for decades.
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #29: Feb 27, 2020 10:36:03 pm
      Time to dig further down in the river beds... create more canal system’s & mangroves..
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #30: Feb 27, 2020 10:50:43 pm
      I live on a tidal River near its mouth so the Water comes in and goes out no problem for us really. However if you live in chester or Bangor on Dee its a different story. two weeks ago we had a 29 ft tide that with the wind behind it made more like a 33ft tide a 4ft swell but our 33ft a few days later with the same gale force wind made less and more like a 30ft tide its been a really weird set of tides for the last month and added to which the rain water flooding into the river has meant it is holding far more water for longer on each tide. Looking out into the Atlantic we have just had weather system after weather system ploughing on through it is exceptional
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #31: Feb 27, 2020 10:55:16 pm
      No matter how much money had been spent on flood defences this weather has been truly exceptional with over a solid month of strong damaging winds coupled to torrential rain I cant remember a worse February .What the Gov should be doing is under writing Flood Insurance as its clearly not the fault of householders who have lived flood free for decades.

      Obviously the weather has been grim but Tory cuts to Council Government funding is down by nearly 50% since 2010, that along with cuts to the Environment agency budget is going to have a disastrous effect. People won't get any help from the Tories, I doubt Labour would underwrite flood insurance either.

      No policy can prevent flooding but putting very little money into flood defences is a policy that can't be defended. Problem is the right wing media don't tell people the truth and when they have to say something negative about Tory policy, they temper it with a load of Tory hogwash so the truth is always flushed down the plughole.
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election
      Reply #32: Feb 28, 2020 09:54:40 am
      Obviously the weather has been grim but Tory cuts to Council Government funding is down by nearly 50% since 2010, that along with cuts to the Environment agency budget is going to have a disastrous effect. People won't get any help from the Tories, I doubt Labour would underwrite flood insurance either.

      No policy can prevent flooding but putting very little money into flood defences is a policy that can't be defended. Problem is the right wing media don't tell people the truth and when they have to say something negative about Tory policy, they temper it with a load of Tory hogwash so the truth is always flushed down the plughole.

      saying the weather is grim is a bit like a monty python sketch when he loses his arm and declares it a scratch. I live next to a river I see it daily how it behaves and the damage it can cause this is f**k all to do with Politicians get your self onto a decent weather App and see what is coming in from the Atlantic and has been now for over a month. Oh and its pissing down again and 70mph winds due shortly.
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election - Conservatives won
      Reply #33: Feb 28, 2020 11:35:31 am
      Speaking of decent weather app I’ve tried a few and been trying to get a good one with radar on any suggestions?
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election - Conservatives won
      Reply #34: Feb 28, 2020 12:22:15 pm
      Speaking of decent weather app I’ve tried a few and been trying to get a good one with radar on any suggestions?

      Windguru its free I use it for the boat and you can view the wind and the weather in the world
      https://www.windguru.cz/map/?lat=53.34399288223422&lon=-3.1201171875&zoom=5
      « Last Edit: Feb 28, 2020 12:28:20 pm by waltonl4 »
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election - Conservatives won
      Reply #35: Feb 28, 2020 01:51:16 pm
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      Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #36: Mar 17, 2020 01:44:39 pm

      Take my chances with Corona, thank you very much.

      Ahem... 🙄

      https://twitter.com/peston/status/1239875408939679744?s=21
      « Last Edit: Mar 17, 2020 01:50:49 pm by Shabs »
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #37: Mar 17, 2020 02:04:48 pm
      True or not, are you really using Breitbart as a verified and trusted source of news? This is the website that once ran a story about a migrant gang smuggling people on jet skis, accompanied by a photo of... Lukas Podolski on a jet ski.
         

      No f**king sh*te.That should be on the banned list Just under the sun and fox news.right-wing cu*ts.Actually surprised anyone would use it as a source on here.
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #38: Mar 17, 2020 02:05:37 pm

      These commentators make me laugh. Preston, like Dan Hodges and the rest of the self-important blue tick arseholes were sniggering at every Corbyn proposal a few months back and now they're screaming we implement a lot of his ideas.

      The idea of nationalised broadband doesn't seem so silly now, with 100s of thousands set to be working remotely
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      Reply #39: Mar 17, 2020 02:08:25 pm
      These commentators make me laugh. Preston, like Dan Hodges and the rest of the self-important blue tick arseholes were sniggering at every Corbyn proposal a few months back and now they're screaming we implement a lot of his ideas.

      The idea of nationalised broadband doesn't seem so silly now, with 100s of thousands set to be working remotely

      Absolutely...Corbyn was right on nationalisation...
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #40: Mar 17, 2020 02:21:26 pm

      Not saying it'd make a difference to our current situation as it would have probably taken a few years to implement, but the idea of free, nationalized broadband for all doesn't seem as silly a policy as it did a few months ago
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #41: Mar 17, 2020 02:39:12 pm
      It was never a silly policy but you implied that with 100’s of thousands working from home it would somehow be better.

      Well in theory it would be, wouldn't it? Full fibre reaching all over the country - especially to rural areas which at the minute are lacking far behind in terms of speed. This would allow people to work from home easier and much more efficiently
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #42: Mar 17, 2020 02:39:25 pm
      Not saying it'd make a difference to our current situation as it would have probably taken a few years to implement, but the idea of free, nationalized broadband for all doesn't seem as silly a policy as it did a few months ago

      I bet when Labour wanted to hook up every house to the electric grid, gas, sewage etc, the tories said exactly the same sh*t back then.

      Of course if there's plenty of profits for their mates, they're all for it.

      They just think the rest of us are here for them to leech off.
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      Re: Post 2020 General Election - Conservatives won
      Reply #43: Mar 18, 2020 11:01:22 pm
      Pound plunges to a 35 year low

      Traders have raised a range of reasons for why the UK is being particularly singled out for attention.

      There is growing expectation of ever bigger fiscal injections to combat the economic impact of the pandemic and the UK is still very dependent on foreign flows of capital.

      Its strategy for dealing with the pandemic was seen, say traders, as an outlier amongst the world's major economies.

      Then there is Brexit. The UK has the extra economic challenge of dealing with a fundamental change to trading arrangements with the EU, perhaps on WTO tariffs, in the middle of this pandemic.

      It is a very rough market out there, with some markets a little dysfunctional as traders are isolated away from their trading floors. But the UK is being singled out for especially tough treatment.
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #44: Mar 30, 2020 08:34:35 pm
      So you think if the nhs was funded properly it would cope with a pandemic?

      Surely if anything is funded sufficiently/properly it has a far better chance of coping?

      If a family was found to need £10* a week to survive and you gave them £2 then they have no hope.
      If you fund them correctly..........


      *actual figure doesnt matter
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      Reply #45: Mar 30, 2020 08:40:34 pm
      So you think if the nhs was funded properly it would cope with a pandemic?


      Yes.
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      Reply #46: Mar 30, 2020 08:54:13 pm
      I’ll let you into a little secret, no health service in the world no matter how well funded can cope with a pandemic. You have an agenda fair enough but don’t let it cloud common sense.


      Governments should fund their respective health services for all eventualities..

      If we can spend billions on wars and hardware I’m sure we can have a state of the art health service equipped for all eventualities.. that’s not an agenda, that’s common sense.

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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #47: Mar 30, 2020 09:04:46 pm
      Well common sense tells me that no country ever has or ever will have so much spare capacity, it’s not economically viable, yet the odd one or two think it is possible? Wow.

      It's about where you put your resources..

      The difference is you say it cant be done.. I say it could be if the will was there

      We can spend billions in areas, we could argue all day about if they were what's needed.. yet we under fund our NHS, we pay nurses low basic pay.. we dont have enough ventilators, basic PPE..
       yet you think it cant be done

      Do we sanction a new f**king fire engine every time someone calls 999 because a building is on fire?

      Of course we f**king dont

      But this, and more importantly our NHS.. we can systemically under fund and
      its ok, everyone does
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      Re: Re: Coronavirus covid-19
      Reply #48: Mar 30, 2020 09:09:16 pm
      So why hasn’t any government done it, socialist, communist or capitalist? You can’t have thousands and thousands of beds, equipment (when you don’t know what equipment you need anyway) and thousands of extra staff waiting for a pandemic or some other disaster to happen. Have you got some secret political ideas than every other ideas out there?


      If was running a government I would implement a strategy that would see us equipped for all eventualities...

      Do you think we are equipped for a nuclear war..? If not you should ask your Tory government why not.. we have spent billions on a rusting deterrent yet next to f**k all on a nuclear war fallout..

      As for extra staff, you know the extra 20,000 staff the NHS needed and the Tories promised you at the last election, guess where the Tories got them from..?
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      Reply #49: Mar 30, 2020 09:27:11 pm
      How much spare capacity would you have? Enough for 10,000
      People? 50,000 people, 500,000? And how would you fund it? Not being funny just curious.

      How do you fund anything?

      How do we fund other "essentials"

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