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      City/Arsenal postponed
      Mar 11, 2020 01:10:04 am
      Man City - Arsenal is postponed ffs. Arsenal players are going to self-quarantine for 14 days. I have a hunch the league is going to go on hold in the next few days.
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      Re: City/Arsenal postponed
      Reply #1: Mar 11, 2020 01:28:46 am
      Man City - Arsenal is postponed ffs. Arsenal players are going to self-quarantine for 14 days. I have a hunch the league is going to go on hold in the next few days.

      Looks to go the way you said.  Oh no. 

       >:(  :mad: :mad: :mad:
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      Reply #2: Mar 11, 2020 02:02:21 am
      Man City - Arsenal is postponed ffs. Arsenal players are going to self-quarantine for 14 days. I have a hunch the league is going to go on hold in the next few days.

      It’s because they met the Notts Forest and Olympiacos owner who has the virus, whether other matches get postponed we’ll have to see.
      « Last Edit: Mar 11, 2020 02:08:19 am by sms1986 »
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      Reply #3: Mar 11, 2020 05:32:00 am
      Forget the disapointment of winning the title behind closed doors theres still a real possibility yet that the season will all count for nothing.

      Until its mathematically done we are at risk of  technicalities.

      Theres talk of the euros being put back a year to help fot the league season in and that now seems a sensible step to take. Surely UEFA want to see their two top tournaments actually taking place in full.
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      Reply #4: Mar 11, 2020 06:39:15 am
      If Arsenal are going to self quarantine because they met him then presumably West Ham Burnley and Newcastle are on high alert as well?
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      Reply #5: Mar 11, 2020 06:41:56 am
      This sh*te was only ever going to happen in a season when we were going to win the league wasn't it!

      Gutted.

      Just hope the season can get completed in some form so we at least get the title.
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      Reply #6: Mar 11, 2020 06:54:58 am
      We need to win 2 next EPL games, so title is ours and we don't need to worry about virus canceling EPL.
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      Reply #7: Mar 11, 2020 06:57:25 am
      We need to win 2 next EPL games, so title is ours and we don't need to worry about virus canceling EPL.

      Even in that case though they can still void the whole thing off. They will argue they can't pick and choose to honour some parts of the season and not others, I can already see it.

      Horrible thought really. We need some clarity about the situation now because it's clear the season isnt getting completed and it would be at least nice to know what the contingency  plan is.

      But yes being mathematically champions increases the likelihood of common sense prevailing and us being declared champions.
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      Reply #8: Mar 11, 2020 07:32:37 am
      It's one game that has been postponed because the Arsenal players have been in contact with someone who has the virus, let's not jump to conclusions unless more matches start being postponed. Unless we see a sudden increase in UK cases, I don't see the whole season being left unfinished.
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      Reply #9: Mar 11, 2020 07:44:49 am
      Imagine one player being positive on corona...It will be off immediately.

      Can't believe this is happening after 30 years of wait...

      But let hope it will be ok...
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      Reply #10: Mar 11, 2020 08:04:21 am
      calm down people, one way or another we will finish all the games, we have to, I can however see the Euros being postponed.
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      Reply #11: Mar 11, 2020 08:08:33 am
      If Arsenal are going to self quarantine because they met him then presumably West Ham Burnley and Newcastle are on high alert as well?

      I posted this in the covid thread, applies here also:

      As regards the arsenal players self isolating for 14 days, that means the Portsmouth and West ham players will also have to because they fall into the 14 day window of contact.

      In the same window, by contact between playing teams, that also includes, Newcastle, Southampton, Burnley, Norwich, wolves, Leicester......

      I stopped looking here, Everton and crystal palace.

      I can see them cancelling the league for a minimum of two weeks but probably three.
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      Reply #12: Mar 11, 2020 08:11:30 am
      If none of the Arsenal players test positive for the virus in the next 24 hours then others who came into contact with them should be fine.
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      Reply #13: Mar 11, 2020 08:16:13 am
      Imagine one player being positive on corona...It will be off immediately.

      Can't believe this is happening after 30 years of wait...

      But let hope it will be ok...

      That what all the other fans want to happen to be cancelled so we don’t win it
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      Reply #14: Mar 11, 2020 08:18:30 am
      So Olympiacos v Wolves going ahead tho seems odd. Why can these players not be tested and then left out or isolate should not affect the game why do I feel City have instigated this 🤔
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      Reply #15: Mar 11, 2020 08:18:40 am
      That what all the other fans want to happen to be cancelled so we don’t win it

      Maybe some fans do, but I reckon most fans would rather the league didn't get affected by the virus and ended normally. It's generally only some of the online fans of certain teams who want to see it cancelled for that reason.
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      Reply #16: Mar 11, 2020 08:30:09 am
      As much as I hate to say it, its time to start playing games behind closed doors, and perhaps even locking down the whole country for 2 weeks, everyone self isolate as much as possible to try to get a handle on this virus, before it really spreads
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      Re: City/Arsenal postponed
      Reply #17: Mar 11, 2020 08:30:42 am
      So Olympiacos v Wolves going ahead tho seems odd. Why can these players not be tested and then left out or isolate should not affect the game why do I feel City have instigated this 🤔

      I think the premier League' restrictions could be a bit more strict.

      Maybe some fans do, but I reckon most fans would rather the league didn't get affected by the virus and ended normally. It's generally only some of the online fans of certain teams who want to see it cancelled for that reason.

      I think you're spot on there mate, online game are toxic whereas people who deal face to face deal more with reality.

      Personally I think if the season has to end now then the table would end as is and there'd basically be three teams arguing against it, those in the relegation zone, all other teams would accept it.

      Obviously I wouldn't want us to win the league that way but it seems the fairest way to do it.
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      Reply #18: Mar 11, 2020 08:32:56 am
      So Olympiacos v Wolves going ahead tho seems odd. Why can these players not be tested and then left out or isolate should not affect the game why do I feel City have instigated this 🤔

      The Olympiakos owner doesn't seem to have been in Greece in the last fortnight until Monday, when he was self-isolating anyway. I would have to find a source for this, but apparently their players have all been tested and are fine.

      Brighton expect their game against Arsenal at the weekend to go ahead, and Arsenal players are due back in training on Friday.
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      Reply #19: Mar 11, 2020 09:13:34 am
      I think the premier League' restrictions could be a bit more strict.

      I think you're spot on there mate, online game are toxic whereas people who deal face to face deal more with reality.

      Personally I think if the season has to end now then the table would end as is and there'd basically be three teams arguing against it, those in the relegation zone, all other teams would accept it.

      Obviously I wouldn't want us to win the league that way but it seems the fairest way to do it.

      Totally agree with this
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      Re: City/Arsenal postponed
      Reply #20: Mar 11, 2020 09:28:53 am
      It's a shame they could not play behind closed doors, but playing in an empty stadium would give City an unfair advantage.

      On a side note, good move, hope all concerned are virus free.
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      Re: City/Arsenal postponed
      Reply #21: Mar 11, 2020 10:14:04 am
      Why were the Arsenal players even coming into contact with the Olympiacos owner? Surely the owner was being tested before yesterday and if so then why has it taken them until the day of the game to cancel it?
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      Reply #22: Mar 11, 2020 11:01:02 am
      Why were the Arsenal players even coming into contact with the Olympiacos owner? Surely the owner was being tested before yesterday and if so then why has it taken them until the day of the game to cancel it?

      He went onto the pitch to meet the players after their match, and he was only found to have the virus yesterday.
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      Reply #23: Mar 11, 2020 11:08:26 am
      calm down people, one way or another we will finish all the games, we have to, I can however see the Euros being postponed.

      I think that's more likely as well.. if you think of it as a whole package

      The euros this summer are being held over multiple nations for the first time which brings risk

      If they cancelled whole seasons then how does that work when things are back on track? Ie who qualifies for Europe etc the following year? UEFA wont want competitions going forward being affected.

      It more likely that a few weeks halt happens than just writing off seasons

      Ultimately though, as much as it's a f**king massive inconvenience human life and sorting this pandemic out is the priority..
      But I'd imagine that they will do everything to complete seasons even of it meant missing a Euros in the summer
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      Reply #24: Mar 11, 2020 11:38:31 am
      He went onto the pitch to meet the players after their match, and he was only found to have the virus yesterday.

      The match was 13 days ago. Surely if he posed any sort of risk to any of the Arsenal team catching anything then he would have been diagnosed with it sooner than yesterday?

      To me it seems like they’ve gone over the top cancelling this game. They say a 14 day incubation period but it’s been 13 days and from what I gather, nobody is showing any symptoms. No need to have cancelled it, at the absolute worst then surely they could have just moved it to Thursday?
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      Reply #25: Mar 11, 2020 11:57:19 am
      It would be ridiculous to cancel the league, what happens to promotion and relegation from all the other leagues.
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      Reply #26: Mar 11, 2020 12:54:07 pm
      The match was 13 days ago. Surely if he posed any sort of risk to any of the Arsenal team catching anything then he would have been diagnosed with it sooner than yesterday?

      To me it seems like they’ve gone over the top cancelling this game. They say a 14 day incubation period but it’s been 13 days and from what I gather, nobody is showing any symptoms. No need to have cancelled it, at the absolute worst then surely they could have just moved it to Thursday?

      He didn't show any symptoms until the last couple of days.

      They postponed it, not cancelled it, as they needed to test the Arsenal players.
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      Reply #27: Mar 11, 2020 12:55:01 pm
      It would be ridiculous to cancel the league, what happens to promotion and relegation from all the other leagues.

      It would only be cancelled if the situation got extremely bad, I reckon we'll maybe see the last couple of weeks postponed at most.
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      Reply #28: Mar 11, 2020 01:09:28 pm
      It would only be cancelled if the situation got extremely bad, I reckon we'll maybe see the last couple of weeks postponed at most.

      We're nowhere near the levels of Italy yet, so the postponing of City v Arsenal game is simply because Arsenal players have come into contact with with Forest's owner and as he's tested positive, this is preventative measures to avoid the spread of the virus.
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      Reply #29: Mar 11, 2020 01:10:54 pm
      Bin the 2020 Euros off, and extend the leagues.
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      Reply #30: Mar 11, 2020 01:12:14 pm
      Bin the 2020 Euros off, and extend the leagues.

      Good idea that, will make a mockery of everything if the Euro's goes ahead in it's current format all over Europe.
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      Reply #31: Mar 11, 2020 01:17:15 pm
      Bin the 2020 Euros off, and extend the leagues.

      Sums UEFA up that this won't even be considered, only just read about Wolves asking for their Europa League game in Greece to be postponed and Uefa have turned that down.
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      Reply #32: Mar 11, 2020 01:22:43 pm
      Bin the 2020 Euros off, and extend the leagues.

      If the situation continues to worsen I could see them being forced to do that, although my guess is warmer weather will help end the outbreak.
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      Re: City/Arsenal postponed
      Reply #33: Mar 11, 2020 02:36:57 pm
      He didn't show any symptoms until the last couple of days.

      They postponed it, not cancelled it, as they needed to test the Arsenal players.

      Postponed/cancelled, you know what I meant, it’s obvious it’s not cancelled.
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      Reply #34: Mar 11, 2020 03:31:40 pm
      Typically symptoms show within 5 days. Two weeks is the farthest range for symptoms to start showing.

      But I think there is more of this to come. These are the kinds of reactions we'll be getting from even individual diagnoses, and you know there are going to be many more of these in the comings days and weeks.

      Now if you want to contemplate worst case scenarios, the league and club managers will put heads together and make declarations. Perhaps the most logical would be that Liverpool are clearly champions of the 2019-20 Premier League season. None of the other 19 clubs should challenge that.

      Prize money would likely be mitigated if the season is cut short. Fine by me.

      For the sake of congruence, with issues related to Euro qualification, promotion and relegation, you might see some very different solutions, including mini-tournaments involving certain teams, perhaps playoff games involving home and away setups. Unprecedented things in league play but something that might be attempted given there are big questions to answer and in that worst case scenario, only a limited time frame (after some longish lockdown period) to answer them. 

      European competitions might have to do the same thing, say a one-week tournament for the quarterfinals, semifinals and final, with all knockout games at a neutral venue and no home matches for anyone.

      If thjs all sounds rather American, there is no question any solution after a long shutdown would be imperfect, but I think something like this would be attempted rather than just binning everything.

      The one thing I'm absolutely sure of is that Liverpool are champions of English football in 2019-20 and nobody should even think of saying otherwise.
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