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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1875: Jun 14, 2020 06:54:24 am
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      Tweet from @beINSPORTS_EN: A Norwich City player is one of TWO people to have tested positive for coronavirus in the latest round of Premier League testing. 

      #beINPL
      https://www.beinsports.com/en/premier-league/news/norwich-confirm-one-positive-covid-19-test/1483623

      How will be with cases like this? Norwich played United last night or day before.
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      Reply #1876: Jun 14, 2020 07:25:47 am

      Spurs may benefit from players coming back from injury but I'm not sure about long term because they borrowed £175m off the bank of England last week and that was just to cover events they aren't going to be allowed to put on in their new shiny stadium so they may struggle transfer wise.

      Daniel Levy's and Maureen's paychecks.

                           :roll:

      (Talking of Levy .... anyone remember his face when we stuffed them 0-5 in what was to be AVB's last game in charge ?  Horror.  ;D
      Ironically AVB had the best PL % win ratio for the Spuds as manager.)



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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1877: Jun 14, 2020 08:27:15 am
      How will be with cases like this? Norwich played United last night or day before.

      If we do the same as Germany then its not an issue, that player isolates and every other player keeps getting tested.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1878: Jun 14, 2020 01:49:12 pm
      Are Everton going to remove that statue they play in goal every week?
      There's a vacant spot available in Bristol, I gather.
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      Reply #1879: Jun 14, 2020 01:52:48 pm
      If the clubs are giving money back to Sky and BT are they then not getting paid for these final 9 games, what the hell kind of deal is this?
      It's called "The outlays are still going out, but the cash has stopped coming in." Everyone's concerned about going broke.
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      Reply #1880: Jun 14, 2020 02:00:23 pm
      Unfortunately you are absolutely right. Chelsea is going to benefit from this. And likely Man City because their owners don’t really care about tossing in their own cash. We will need Klopp magic more than ever since I doubt we will be doing much in the transfer market.
      There is an interesting article in today's Liverpool Echo on that subject. Chelsea's payment for Hazard was apparently deferred, but is now due. They expect to recoup on outgoing sales of Willian, et al, (though their value will surely be depressed in this market). Also they were banned from spending in the last window or two due to irregularities, so they have banked some cash. That said, the conclusion was that they are doing risky business.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1881: Jun 14, 2020 02:38:20 pm
      How will be with cases like this? Norwich played United last night or day before.

      Scrap the league, f**k off any planned title celebrations and stay on number 18 forever.

      What else should we do?
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1882: Jun 16, 2020 05:27:45 pm
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      Reply #1884: Jul 09, 2020 01:59:27 pm
      Was reading in the Athletic that the club are looking into a software which is currently under trial in Germany that could allow fans back into the stadium to some extent. Dortmund are currently trialing the software with a view to starting to phase spectators back into the stadium for next season, apparently the plan is to start off by playing matches at 30% capacity. Didn't go too much into the ins and outs of the software but it consists of cameras which check temperatures and when inside the stadium also works as a crowd management tool and alerts stewards if people aren't keeping their distance. Will cost around £90k a game to roll out which to be fair is a drop in the ocean compared to what the club could make from ticket sales, refreshments and merchandise on a matchday, even at a reduced capacity.

      Presume Germany will be taking the lead with this as they did with the return of football so will have to wait and see how things turn out over there. Will be interesting to see how it would work at Anfield, if we're still adhering to the 1M rule by then I'd be surprised if they manage to get 30% capacity. As the crow flies I'd say for a rough estimate there's probably about 12 people who you'd be within a meter of in a standard Anfield seat so I'm unsure how they'd manage to get anywhere close to 30% if they'd have to take over 10 tickets away for each person they let in. Then you've got the unfortunate job of deciding who gets in and who doesn't. I think just over 50% of the Anfield capacity belongs to season ticket holders, so it would be very likely that a lot of season ticket holders won't be allowed to attend at least certain fixtures. Then you've got members who don't have season tickets but have built up loyalty over the years and by doing so have not missed a fixture in decades, I imagine they wouldn't be too happy being told that they don't qualify for certain games.

      I'd just be happy to see a crowd back in some extent as I think our game, more than most, benefits from having a crowd due to the ebb & flow nature & intensity of our game. Whether distanced crowds would have much of an effect is probably up for debate (can imagine a lot of people would feel a bit weird basically singing on their own) but It'd be a step in the right direction at least
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1885: Jul 14, 2020 05:46:25 am
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1886: Jul 14, 2020 12:47:48 pm
      Was reading in the Athletic that the club are looking into a software which is currently under trial in Germany that could allow fans back into the stadium to some extent. Dortmund are currently trialing the software with a view to starting to phase spectators back into the stadium for next season, apparently the plan is to start off by playing matches at 30% capacity. Didn't go too much into the ins and outs of the software but it consists of cameras which check temperatures and when inside the stadium also works as a crowd management tool and alerts stewards if people aren't keeping their distance. Will cost around £90k a game to roll out which to be fair is a drop in the ocean compared to what the club could make from ticket sales, refreshments and merchandise on a matchday, even at a reduced capacity.

      Presume Germany will be taking the lead with this as they did with the return of football so will have to wait and see how things turn out over there. Will be interesting to see how it would work at Anfield, if we're still adhering to the 1M rule by then I'd be surprised if they manage to get 30% capacity. As the crow flies I'd say for a rough estimate there's probably about 12 people who you'd be within a meter of in a standard Anfield seat so I'm unsure how they'd manage to get anywhere close to 30% if they'd have to take over 10 tickets away for each person they let in. Then you've got the unfortunate job of deciding who gets in and who doesn't. I think just over 50% of the Anfield capacity belongs to season ticket holders, so it would be very likely that a lot of season ticket holders won't be allowed to attend at least certain fixtures. Then you've got members who don't have season tickets but have built up loyalty over the years and by doing so have not missed a fixture in decades, I imagine they wouldn't be too happy being told that they don't qualify for certain games.

      I'd just be happy to see a crowd back in some extent as I think our game, more than most, benefits from having a crowd due to the ebb & flow nature & intensity of our game. Whether distanced crowds would have much of an effect is probably up for debate (can imagine a lot of people would feel a bit weird basically singing on their own) but It'd be a step in the right direction at least

      Definitely agree that we lose a little more oomph when our supporters are absent.  I've seen a few public events now where those in attendance are kept apart from one another. I think for English football in general that is going to be a difficult task.
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      Reply #1887: Jul 16, 2020 03:45:06 pm
      Definitely agree that we lose a little more oomph when our supporters are absent.  I've seen a few public events now where those in attendance are kept apart from one another. I think for English football in general that is going to be a difficult task.


      I think the bigger issue for us are the water breaks, for whatever reason other teams seem to use them to gee themselves up, whilst we take the foot off the gas, it is water in our bottles isn't it, and not a cheeky beer ;-).

      For example yesterday first half we were in complete control up to the water break then we relaxed a bit, they pressed a bit more and we messed up twice, end of story.  I am convinced that in that game without a water break we would have gone in half time 2 goals up, but that's no excuse.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1888: Jul 17, 2020 01:18:12 pm
      Fans could be able to return to stadiums in England from October, says Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

      Pilots will take place from 1 August but any stadium reopenings would be subject to coronavirus guidelines.

      Some sports, including football and cricket, have resumed behind closed doors after the Covid-19 lockdown.

      "We will pilot larger gatherings in venues like sports stadiums with a view to a wider reopening in the autumn," said Johnson on Friday.

      "From October, we intend to bring back audiences in stadiums.

      "Again, these changes must be done in a Covid-secure way, subject to the successful outcome of pilots."

      The pilot projects will be held at:

          Two men's county cricket friendly matches - including Surrey v Middlesex at The Oval on 26-27 July;
          The World Snooker Championship at Sheffield's Crucible Theatre from 31 July;
          The Goodwood horse racing festival - known as Glorious Goodwood - on 1 August.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1889: Jul 17, 2020 03:25:22 pm
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      Definitely agree that we lose a little more oomph when our supporters are absent.  I've seen a few public events now where those in attendance are kept apart from one another. I think for English football in general that is going to be a difficult task.

      We beat 3 teams with a crowd, have scored 11 goals with no crowd, the players train everyday with no crowd. It's their job to play games, with or without a crowd.

      Other leagues can easily accommodate restricted crowds, as they are not usually sell outs anyway. In England and other major leagues however, that is not possible, so the players just have to get out there and make the best of it. It's the same for everyone.
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      Reply #1890: Jul 17, 2020 04:15:48 pm
      We beat 3 teams with a crowd, have scored 11 goals with no crowd, the players train everyday with no crowd. It's their job to play games, with or without a crowd.

      Other leagues can easily accommodate restricted crowds, as they are not usually sell outs anyway. In England and other major leagues however, that is not possible, so the players just have to get out there and make the best of it. It's the same for everyone.

      Sure it's possible. Anything is possible if you have smart people putting their heads together to come up with reasonable solutions.

      If fans aren't reintroduced in some manner by this fall, it's because the "powers that be" are too lazy to figure out how to do it in a reasonable way.
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      Reply #1891: Jul 17, 2020 04:36:04 pm
      Fans could be able to return to stadiums in England from October, says Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

      Pilots will take place from 1 August but any stadium reopenings would be subject to coronavirus guidelines.

      Some sports, including football and cricket, have resumed behind closed doors after the Covid-19 lockdown.

      "We will pilot larger gatherings in venues like sports stadiums with a view to a wider reopening in the autumn," said Johnson on Friday.

      "From October, we intend to bring back audiences in stadiums.

      "Again, these changes must be done in a Covid-secure way, subject to the successful outcome of pilots."

      The pilot projects will be held at:

          Two men's county cricket friendly matches - including Surrey v Middlesex at The Oval on 26-27 July;
          The World Snooker Championship at Sheffield's Crucible Theatre from 31 July;
          The Goodwood horse racing festival - known as Glorious Goodwood - on 1 August.

      Be surprised if it was anything over 15k to begin with. Probably have to start off by allowing STH in on a rotational basis
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      Reply #1892: Jul 17, 2020 05:00:18 pm
      Be surprised if it was anything over 15k to begin with. Probably have to start off by allowing STH in on a rotational basis

      I'd think something like that, with maybe staggered arrival times depending on where seating is. Surely they can figure something like that to start with to determine how it goes.

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      Reply #1893: Jul 17, 2020 05:27:32 pm
      Are they actually trying to create a second wave?

      Since it's the tories, probably, yes.
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      Reply #1894: Jul 17, 2020 05:49:05 pm
      Are they actually trying to create a second wave?

      Since it's the tories, probably, yes.

      I'd argue you'd be much safer attending a football match at a greatly reduced capacity than you would be going to a pub, gym or non-essential shopping centre
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      Reply #1895: Jul 17, 2020 06:18:52 pm
      I'd argue you'd be much safer attending a football match at a greatly reduced capacity than you would be going to a pub, gym or non-essential shopping centre

      Maybe, but the point I made still stands.

      It's not about the relative merits of the various venues, but about how quickly everything is being opened.
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      Reply #1896: Jul 18, 2020 11:10:13 am
      Be surprised if it was anything over 15k to begin with. Probably have to start off by allowing STH in on a rotational basis

      L Postcodes only ;)
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      Reply #1897: Jul 18, 2020 12:17:50 pm

      Hope the upper corners of the Main are still open for me & the rest of the £9 ultras!
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      Reply #1898: Jul 18, 2020 12:21:39 pm
      Do you remember in the beginning when they said going to major events was fine, oh for the heady days of march!
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      Reply #1899: Jul 18, 2020 12:30:18 pm
      Do you remember in the beginning when they said going to major events was fine, oh for the heady days of march!

      Was mad how quickly everything changed. I remember the first few days of lockdown thinking that Atletico game seemed like a world away, it was only about a week or so prior!

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