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      Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)

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      TameImpala
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      Re: Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)
      Reply #225: Apr 07, 2020 04:33:00 pm
      If I was Hendo & Klopp I'd have been fuming over this. All the work they've done, not just during the crisis but over the last few years, helping to give the club a more likeable image, doing things the right way etc

      Then the suits put the club in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they've U-turned but the damage was already done as soon as they announced the furlough.

      After the backlash they received for trying to increase ticket prices by nearly £20 a pop, or attempting to trademark the word 'Liverpool', I can't believe they thought they'd get away with it. They've tested the water with the fans enough to be able to anticipate what sort of reaction they'd get
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      Reply #226: Apr 07, 2020 05:14:46 pm
      I remember many on here saying how wonderfull our owners are...to quote a certain Liverpool fan ....my arse
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      Reply #227: Apr 07, 2020 05:17:48 pm
      I remember many on here saying how wonderfull our owners are...to quote a certain Liverpool fan ....my arse

      They've been better than most and they got us Klopp. Yes, they make mistakes but at least they correct them when the fans tell them they're wrong.

      No owners are ever perfect and FSG certainly aren't, but looking at where we are right now - world champions, European champions and soon to be English champions - they're clearly one of the best.
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      Reply #228: Apr 07, 2020 06:04:23 pm
      They've been better than most and they got us Klopp. Yes, they make mistakes but at least they correct them when the fans tell them they're wrong.

      No owners are ever perfect and FSG certainly aren't, but looking at where we are right now - world champions, European champions and soon to be English champions - they're clearly one of the best.
      correct it was always going to be corrected ,  all the haters are trying to make an issue out of this.  , it’s been sorted let’s get behind the lads , and enjoy picking up the premier league champions trophy , first of    many.    Can’t wait to get the season under way
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      Re: Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)
      Reply #229: Apr 07, 2020 06:18:11 pm
      correct it was always going to be corrected

      No it wasn't. You're being extremely naive if you think they just would have changed the decision without pressure from supporters.

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      Reply #230: Apr 07, 2020 06:43:57 pm
      I think the owners are opportunistic, if the supporters don’t keep them in check they could go about doing whatever they want, it’s great to see local support being vocal & SOS..

      Won’t be the last f**k up they do only to be corrected..
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      Reply #231: Apr 07, 2020 06:45:51 pm
      correct it was always going to be corrected ,  all the haters are trying to make an issue out of this.  , it’s been sorted let’s get behind the lads , and enjoy picking up the premier league champions trophy , first of    many.    Can’t wait to get the season under way

      It wasnt always going to be corrected.. not at all.. because if so why do it in the first place? That makes no sense does it?

      Let's make this decision that will get is slaughtered all round including by our own fans but we will reverse it in a few days even if no one says anything about it... yeah?

      Ridiculous opinion

      Its f**k all to do with being a hater, its about understanding the history and heritage of our club and city.. i suggest you use this down time to do some reading lad
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      Re: Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)
      Reply #232: Apr 07, 2020 06:54:35 pm
      It wasnt always going to be corrected.. not at all.. because if so why do it in the first place? That makes no sense does it?

      Let's make this decision that will get is slaughtered all round including by our own fans but we will reverse it in a few days even if no one says anything about it... yeah?

      Ridiculous opinion

      Its f**k all to do with being a hater, its about understanding the history and heritage of our club and city.. i suggest you use this down time to do some reading lad


      Well said
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      Reply #233: Apr 07, 2020 08:16:37 pm
      They've been better than most and they got us Klopp.

      Perversely we could say the original Furlough decision made a lot of fans from certain clubs stop banging on about null and voiding the season for a couple of days!!
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      Reply #234: Apr 07, 2020 08:24:50 pm
      I remember many on here saying how wonderfull our owners are...to quote a certain Liverpool fan ....my arse

      They put a shovel in the ground though didn’t they
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      Reply #235: Apr 07, 2020 08:31:16 pm
      They put a shovel in the ground though didn’t they


      They built a stand purely for the corporate £££££££'s nothing else!!
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      Reply #236: Apr 07, 2020 08:49:18 pm
      They built a stand purely for the corporate £££££££'s nothing else!!

      They’ve invested millions of their dollars in the club, of course they are looking for returns. People seem to be very forgetful of where this club was before they came along. They’ve added Long term financial stability, invested in facilities, given the manager autonomy to go after who he likes, backed him in the transfer market and we’re seeing results on the pitch. We could have it much worse off.
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      Re: Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)
      Reply #237: Apr 07, 2020 08:55:58 pm
      They’ve invested millions of their dollars in the club, of course they are looking for returns. People seem to be very forgetful of where this club was before they came along. They’ve added Long term financial stability, invested in facilities, given the manager autonomy to go after who he likes, backed him in the transfer market and we’re seeing results on the pitch. We could have it much worse off.

      Or on the flip side

      We spend what we generate
      They got us for a significantly reduced price which was too good to turn down

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      Re: Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)
      Reply #238: Apr 07, 2020 09:38:48 pm
      The fans rightly so made a stand against the owners when they tried to raise the ticket prices to £77. Who knows what the price of the tickets would have been by now !
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      Reply #239: Apr 07, 2020 10:02:07 pm
      And whenever the footy starts up we'll be 2 wins from the title,stop with the look back and whine sh*te.
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      Reply #240: Apr 07, 2020 10:09:59 pm
      And whenever the footy starts up we'll be 2 wins from the title,stop with the look back and whine sh*te.

      Ying and yang

      Just because on the surface everything is going well for you, you shouldn't forget to remember the past

      If you do then it easy for people to pull the wool over your eyes again

      Look the owners have fu**ed up ... again it's on them, if they keep f**king up then people will keep reminding them of it.
      Best way for people to not bring up the past? Stop keep f**king up
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      Reply #241: Apr 07, 2020 10:18:35 pm
      OK look to the past then and look past fsg,wasn't always a socialist paradise,they didn't buy and tin up the streets around Anfield.I'm not sure your socialist caring vision of Liverpool f.c has ever really existed,has it?
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      Reply #242: Apr 07, 2020 10:20:29 pm
      Not sure really what you're getting at?
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      Reply #243: Apr 07, 2020 10:28:10 pm
      Not sure really what you're getting at?
       

      Well your pushing of old LFC as being some kind of caring socialist organization,that these capitalist yanks will never be.Well when was it.Shankly was always banging heads with the board,before that? After Shanks?
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      Reply #244: Apr 08, 2020 03:26:09 am
      And whenever the footy starts up we'll be 2 wins from the title,stop with the look back and whine sh*te.
      . Great point , move on
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      Reply #245: Apr 08, 2020 05:00:17 am
      The battle is won so time to move on now.

      There will be more schemes from this lot to come, but for now time to put it to bed.
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      Reply #246: Apr 08, 2020 07:43:02 am
       

      Well your pushing of old LFC as being some kind of caring socialist organization,that these capitalist yanks will never be.Well when was it.Shankly was always banging heads with the board,before that? After Shanks?

      I'm not sure it's a wise argument for you to get into about whether Liverpool as a city or a club is inherently socialist.. especially just to defend your countrymen

      As FOAR says

      The battle is won so time to move on now.

      There will be more schemes from this lot to come, but for now time to put it to bed.

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      Reply #247: Apr 08, 2020 10:15:43 am
      They've been better than most and they got us Klopp. Yes, they make mistakes but at least they correct them when the fans tell them they're wrong.

      No owners are ever perfect and FSG certainly aren't, but looking at where we are right now - world champions, European champions and soon to be English champions - they're clearly one of the best.

      You reading this Keith ?
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      Reply #248: Apr 08, 2020 10:51:36 am
      True, but I highly doubt it was anyone senior at the club that made the decision.

      I'd bet this was some HR type management bod who is supposed to be in charge of the lower level employees.
      It'd be an insane amount of micro-management by someone senior.

      So although a shitty decision by whoever made it, at least it got overturned, and yes, that was down to the fan base.

      Really not trying to get into any arguments here but you know that's not true, Swab.

      F***ing Graeme from HR ay? First the £77 tickets and now this.
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      Reply #249: Apr 08, 2020 12:28:08 pm
      Really not trying to get into any arguments here but you know that's not true, Swab.

      F***ing Graeme from HR ay? First the £77 tickets and now this.

      250 employees mate.

      The top bods look at overview, strategy etc

      Lower down, there's other people to look after those 250 people, their hours, employment contracts, admin etc

      How many Directors of such a huge organisation do you know who get involved with that stuff?

      Worst case is Moore signed off on it, without really thinking it through.

      Not trying to excuse anyone here, as far as I'm concerned, they have a collective responsibility, but it's telling that Moore was the one who apologised.

      Ticket prices are a different matter entirely.

      John Henry isn't sat in Boston thinking about the ground staffs wages, and how to save what amounts to (for him) pennies.
      That's all I'm saying.

      No excuses, no passing the buck, it's just to me, this isn't a Director level matter.

      From experience I know how some junior managers think; "OK, the government pay 80% of their wages, we'll pay the other 20%, everyone's happy."
      If Moore signed off on it, that's the f**k up right there.

      Yeah, I know I've probably thought about this too much, but it's lockdown and I'm f**king bored.

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