Club Furlough Staff (Now Reversed)

It’s not a daft question though is it..? I’m sure whatever the shortfall in UK shirt sales Nike & the club will cover those cost abroad..

I agree of the impact directly at home.

Liverpool will fall in line 100% , whatever reason they didn’t do is totally out of character .  The haters ie City , United will pounce on this like the papers plastering our names everywhere , not the others who done the same . Lots of charity stuff going on all the time , Jordan Henderson leading on wage cuts . Roll on the conclusion of the season get in with the football and shut the haters up

Liverpool will fall in line 100% , whatever reason they didn’t do is totally out of character .  The haters ie City , United will pounce on this like the papers plastering our names everywhere , not the others who done the same . Lots of charity stuff going on all the time , Jordan Henderson leading on wage cuts . Roll on the conclusion of the season get in with the football and shut the haters up

The reason we're getting more attention for it is because we're the biggest club to have done it so far, plus it goes against a lot of the branding the club puts out about "this means more".

The reason we're getting more attention for it is because we're the biggest club to have done it so far, plus it goes against a lot of the branding the club puts out about "this means more".

whatever bodge job was done will be sorted very quickly , as we all know , as soon as it is put it to bed , major cock up finished

Don't share the sense of morale outrage as others do. For about 5 or 6 million over 3 months it just seems rather pointless exercise to Furlough the staff. Just not really surprised that it has happened as football is essentially a business and fans are just another income stream. Morals left the building a long time ago. Perhaps I am a bit too cynical these days to get as worked up about these things. Nothing surprises me anymore. Guess I don't care as deeply as I used to or others do any more. Does paying someone 200 grand a week or buying someone for 70 million for a player fit in with a socialist ethos, probably not. Come the new Nike shirt I can guarantee you that Furlough will be the last thing on a lot of fans mind or lifting the premiership trophy. Not saying that's right or wrong. Just saying that's the reality of it all.

Problem I have with that attitude is if we all take it then the club becomes no different to any other

That the club that we all fell in love with, that my grandad passed downed disappears because we all decide it's just the way it is nowadays

I can't accept that and I'm livid with the club with this and I hope we dont get the title now

Problem I have with that attitude is if we all take it then the club becomes no different to any other

That the club that we all fell in love with, that my grandad passed downed disappears because we all decide it's just the way it is nowadays

I can't accept that and I'm livid with the club with this and I hope we dont get the title now

I'm not saying what the club has done is right, because it isn't, but they're capitalists just like the owners of most football clubs. The real uniqueness is  in the fanbase - what other English club has the same level of songs, flags and fan culture that we do?

Us not being given the title because of this would be unfair to fans and the players. The only way I see us not getting the title is if the season is voided and the authorities are trying to avoid that at all costs.

I'm not saying what the club has done is right, because it isn't, but they're capitalists just like the owners of most football clubs. The real uniqueness is  in the fanbase - what other English club has the same level of songs, flags and fan culture that we do?

Us not being given the title because of this would be unfair to fans and the players. The only way I see us not getting the title is if the season is voided and the authorities are trying to avoid that at all costs.

You like many others are missing the point

But each to their own

I dont think we will miss out on the title but this has left beyond a bitter taste in my mouth and these yank cu*ts cant F**k off quick enough now

This is the wrong move for the club to take, no doubt about it. Hopefully they will rectify it, but who knows. That said, it's not the first time the club hasn't been on the right side of a decision (Suarez debacle, Standard Chartered basically a money launderer and Iran sanction violator, Nike and their purported sweatshop workers) but it doesn't undo what the club is about and all the good that the club has done over the years.

Just like Man City doing the right thing in this instance doesn't just give them a clean bill of health for all the illegal and underhanded dealings they've been mixed up in.

Kick the owners out, fine by me, but you'll just get new ones that are likely slightly different versions of the same.  I really, really hope the club see how upset supporters are by this and change course, and to me that would speak more about the club itself...that the folks that really count can affect change on any level of decision.

If you think this taints the title somehow, I guess I won't ever understand that. This decision has nothing to do with what Klopp and the team have done this season and what they deserve.

If you aren't going to enjoy the title, I'm sure there's nothing anyone can say to change that feeling, but to me that's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

This is the wrong move for the club to take, no doubt about it. Hopefully they will rectify it, but who knows. That said, it's not the first time the club hasn't been on the right side of a decision (Suarez debacle, Standard Chartered basically a money launderer and Iran sanction violator, Nike and their purported sweatshop workers) but it doesn't undo what the club is about and all the good that the club has done over the years.

Just like Man City doing the right thing in this instance doesn't just give them a clean bill of health for all the illegal and underhanded dealings they've been mixed up in.

Kick the owners out, fine by me, but you'll just get new ones that are likely slightly different versions of the same.  I really, really hope the club see how upset supporters are by this and change course, and to me that would speak more about the club itself...that the folks that really count can affect change on any level of decision.

If you think this taints the title somehow, I guess I won't ever understand that. This decision has nothing to do with what Klopp and the team have done this season and what they deserve.

If you aren't going to enjoy the title, I'm sure there's nothing anyone can say to change that feeling, but to me that's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

For me it's like accepting things just for the end goal


So your wife fucks another bloke behind your back? But you're ok with that cause you still get to shag her every so often as well?

To dump her would be cutting your nose off to spite your face? Or would it mean you have morals

People dont have to agree with me, but look at how people ingrained in the club and the city have reacted..

Club have reversed the decision.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1247215159237632004

Great news!

Full letter -

Liverpool chief executive officer Peter Moore has issued the following letter to supporters.

Dear Liverpool supporters,

First and foremost on behalf of our ownership, Fenway Sports Group, we would like to emphasise the thoughts and concerns of everyone are with those suffering from the dreadful COVID-19 pandemic and the families of those affected.

We would also recognise and pay tribute to the heroism of the incredible health service and key workers locally, nationally and internationally. All other worries should be placed in that context first.

Allowing for perspective in these unprecedented and harrowing times, it is important to address an issue we, as an organisation, have been involved in since the weekend.

We have consulted with a range of key stakeholders as part of a process aimed at achieving the best possible outcome for all concerned. A range of possible scenarios were considered, including but not restricted to: applying to the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme, which pays 80 per cent of salary and guaranteeing the 20 per cent payment; applying to the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme with a guarantee to reimburse monies received at a later date; and, thirdly, finding an alternative means to cover our furlough costs.

It is as a direct result of this extensive consultation and our own internal deliberations at various levels throughout the club that we have opted to find alternative means despite our eligibility to apply for the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme.

We believe we came to the wrong conclusion last week to announce that we intended to apply to the Coronavirus Retention Scheme and furlough staff due to the suspension of the Premier League football calendar, and are truly sorry for that.

Our intentions were, and still are, to ensure the entire workforce is given as much protection as possible from redundancy and/or loss of earnings during this unprecedented period.

We are therefore committed to finding alternative ways to operate while there are no football matches being played that ensures we are not applying for the government relief scheme.   

We would like to acknowledge the great army of staff and casual workers who work tirelessly to ensure Liverpool is a club that operates to the highest of standards.

But in the spirit of transparency we must also be clear, despite the fact we were in a healthy position prior to this crisis, our revenues have been shut off yet our outgoings remain. And like almost every sector of society, there is great uncertainty and concern over our present and future.

Like any responsible employer concerned for its workers in the current situation, the club continues to prepare for a range of different scenarios, around when football can return to operating as it did before the pandemic. These scenarios range from best case to worst and everything in between.

It is an unavoidable truth that several of these scenarios involve a massive downturn in revenue, with correspondingly unprecedented operating losses. Having these vital financial resources so profoundly impacted would obviously negatively affect our ability to operate as we previously have.

We are engaged in the process of exploring all avenues within our scope to limit the inevitable damage. We thank the many amazing people in our club, at all levels, who are committed to helping us do just that, despite the complexity and unpredictability in the world and our industry.

We would also like to take the opportunity to thank those who have engaged with us in a productive fashion, none more so than our supporters, their representatives, particularly Spirit of Shankly, the Mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, Metro Mayor, Steve Rotheram, local MPs Dan Carden and many other individuals, with whom we have had much valued dialogue.

Stay safe.
Peter Moore
Chief executive officer

For me it's like accepting things just for the end goal


So your wife fucks another bloke behind your back? But you're ok with that cause you still get to shag her every so often as well?

To dump her would be cutting your nose off to spite your face? Or would it mean you have morals

People dont have to agree with me, but look at how people ingrained in the club and the city have reacted..

Oh, I absolutely understand the reaction of the supporters and city. It's the right reaction and absolutely justified. I don't agree with your analogy, but all I'm saying is that you can be pissed at the club about this decision and still support the players and manager (who had nothing to do with it) and be happy about what they've accomplished. Because if you say the title is tarnished and doesn't mean anything because of this decision, you are basically pissing all over what Klopp and the boys have done this season. And just like many times in the past....you can still enjoy the football and appreciate the football without giving the owners any credit.

I work for a small company where the CEO is a complete ass. But we have a great reputation with our clients and we do well because of the team I'm lucky enough to manage and because of how my COO runs the day to day of our company. We do things the right way in spite of our CEO who is clueless....he's just collecting profits without adding a bit of value to the company. But our clients love us in spite of that, and the guys I manage and work with, surely feel like the work they do is valuable (and it is). We can't control what happens above us, only what we all do on our own. That's the same way with the club. The boys can't control what goes on in the executive offices. They can only go out and do their job on the pitch, and they have and they should be rewarded for it. And as a supporter, I'm going to be happy when they get rewarded for it. Because they've had a season unlike any other in history (especially factoring in this stupid virus). I get why you are having issues with this, not saying you shouldn't, I just don't get how you can throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Club have reversed the decision.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1247215159237632004

Good.. it would be far better though if they either had a feeling of the people that make the club what it is or sought advice from groups that represent us

Another f**k up by the owners and directors and it's becoming too often.. when will they learn

If they wanted an easy ride of a fan base that they could do whatever when ever then they needed to look anywhere else than Liverpool

Better late than never. Corporates at Liverpool been embarrassed to do a u turn subject to the out cry of complaints.

Good.. it would be far better though if they either had a feeling of the people that make the club what it is or sought advice from groups that represent us

Another F**k up by the owners and directors and it's becoming too often.. when will they learn

It amazes me that they didn't know it would have played out like this to be honest.

Club have reversed the decision.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1247215159237632004

Good news, and that's what makes this club special. Listen to the people that have put you were you are.

Absolutely the right thing to do, they made a mistake, but at least they’ve owned it and apologised! These are terrible times we are all living through, and mistakes will be made, how they thought their decision was the right one is beyond me, but we’re all a bit off kilter at the minute! Just glad they’ve reversed the decision!

It amazes me that they didn't know it would have played out like this to be honest.

Serious. Can't even imagine how those conversations could have gone. 

Problem I have with that attitude is if we all take it then the club becomes no different to any other

That the club that we all fell in love with, that my grandad passed downed disappears because we all decide it's just the way it is nowadays

I can't accept that and I'm livid with the club with this and I hope we dont get the title now

It amazes me that they didn't know it would have played out like this to be honest.

I thought this would happen.

It seemed to be a misjudgement rather than malice, and it shows they listen.

Bad decision soon rectified.
Not great, but not bad either.

Good news, and that's what makes this club special. Listen to the people that have put you were you are.

Again I disagree

They should know prior to us having to kick off.. I mean how f**king thick must they be with some of the sh*te they try to pull that we have to put them in their place

Thick thick obnoxious cu*ts

Serious. Can't even imagine how those conversations could have gone. 

They obviously have a room full of yes men that cant stand up for themselves

Although it does sound like if this drags out we can kiss any high priced transfers goodbye.