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      Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #450: Jul 05, 2020 01:08:45 am
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D




      « Last Edit: Jul 05, 2020 01:21:26 am by AussieRed »
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #451: Jul 05, 2020 10:02:42 am
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D






      Lol
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #452: Jul 05, 2020 11:48:57 am
      One or two finding it difficult to accept. We were playing City..they are a specialist attacking mob..and if you get high, play an open game and understandably in our case, not have the required application..then your gunner get turned over.

      That's it..it was, as I said earlier, a hollow victory for them. Hasn't dented our fantastic season, slightly scraped it but still..and I expect a few more poor results..it's human nature. No problem, we celebrate winning the league and we should be reminiscing about the great wins this season and who was player of the year etc.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #453: Jul 05, 2020 12:05:10 pm
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D









       :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:



      Brilliant mate, Jürgen must still be on it, can nobody find him ?






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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #454: Jul 05, 2020 01:08:17 pm
      Some people said they wanted us to go and win the league there. I said I didn't want to go there needing a result to win the league, and I think we saw why. But now that the pressure to get the result was off, I wanted to send out a statement and ram our superiority this season down their throats.

      A professional doesn't down tools when the title is won. You don't see PSG or Bayern or Celtic do it when winning a league with games to spare, and away to City is neither the time nor the place. We have players that have won leagues at other clubs before. Did they all take the rest of that season off, or continue as usual? City won their first game as champions 2 years ago, 5-0, and set a new benchmark in points won. We can do it also, but it means no siesta until the whistle goes at Newcastle in 3 weeks time.

      This game was a chance to remind City and everyone else why we won the league. All it did was give the likes of Singleton the chance to inform us that they, 20 points down the field, are the team to beat next year. Because of our 6th league defeat since 2018, all away from home, neutrals are yet to be convinced that we're not one season wonders.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #455: Jul 05, 2020 09:20:20 pm
      A professional doesn't down tools when the title is won. You don't see PSG or Bayern or Celtic do it when winning a league with games to spare, and away to City is neither the time nor the place. We have players that have won leagues at other clubs before. Did they all take the rest of that season off, or continue as usual? City won their first game as champions 2 years ago, 5-0, and set a new benchmark in points won. We can do it also, but it means no siesta until the whistle goes at Newcastle in 3 weeks time.



      Three leagues were the champions have hardly got any competition anyway!
      Bit different in a league were anyone can beat anyone as shown with Southampton's win v City.

      The fact Keane even spoke about it saying he felt it happened to him and Utd when they won it with 5 games to go, shows it can happen.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #456: Jul 05, 2020 10:20:54 pm
      This game was a chance to remind City and everyone else why we won the league

      We didn’t need to beat City for that. The 23 point difference says enough. Let them beat us when there is nothing to play for, the important thing is we beat them when there was something to play for.
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      Reply #457: Jul 05, 2020 10:52:24 pm
      Don't get me wrong losing 4-0 against City hurt, but when you think about it beating City isn't what is going to win us titles year in, year out, getting more points than them and other contenders are what is going to do that.

      I think the hallmark of premier league champions isn't to get sucked into the 1v1's between the contenders but to think over the course of the season we need to be consistently the best team.

      I don't think United towards the end of SAF's reign were smashing the contenders, they were just getting it done over the course of the season and that's the kind of team I think Klopp has built now, one that is ready to go at it again and again.
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      Reply #458: Jul 05, 2020 11:28:45 pm
      when you think about it beating City isn't what is going to win us titles year in, year out

      To an extent yes, but you could argue that the reason they won the league ahead of us last season is because they took 4 points out of the 2 games against us.
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      Reply #459: Jul 05, 2020 11:37:50 pm
      To an extent yes, but you could argue that the reason they won the league ahead of us last season is because they took 4 points out of the 2 games against us.

      Indeed you could, but at the same time, draws against Everton, United and West Ham arguably cost us even more as they are easier wins. If we won those 3 the 4 points they took off us would have been redundant.
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      Reply #460: Jul 06, 2020 01:04:43 am
      Indeed you could, but at the same time, draws against Everton, United and West Ham arguably cost us even more as they are easier wins. If we won those 3 the 4 points they took off us would have been redundant.

      Throughout a season, at some stage there will always be games where you drop points you shouldn't against lesser teams and the argument could be made just as much for City, if they hadn't of dropped all them points over Xmas, then they wouldn't have had to rely on beating us. When 2 teams are separated by 1-2 points like what the case was last season with City, I think that ultimately you have to look at the head-to-head for that fixture. Being a point or 2 off is basically a mirror image of each other's season so whilst we dropped points vs West Ham and whoever else, it's no different to City dropping points vs the likes of Palace and Newcastle, the only difference in terms of points dropped was that we dropped 5 of ours against them, where as they only dropped 2 of theirs against us, so IMO the games vs City last season is what decided the title.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #461: Jul 06, 2020 09:17:22 am
      Throughout a season, at some stage there will always be games where you drop points you shouldn't against lesser teams and the argument could be made just as much for City, if they hadn't of dropped all them points over Xmas, then they wouldn't have had to rely on beating us. When 2 teams are separated by 1-2 points like what the case was last season with City, I think that ultimately you have to look at the head-to-head for that fixture. Being a point or 2 off is basically a mirror image of each other's season so whilst we dropped points vs West Ham and whoever else, it's no different to City dropping points vs the likes of Palace and Newcastle, the only difference in terms of points dropped was that we dropped 5 of ours against them, where as they only dropped 2 of theirs against us, so IMO the games vs City last season is what decided the title.

      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #462: Jul 06, 2020 10:49:14 am
      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.

      And attack is the best form of defence but I can't pick a bone over last season.I think we did as much as we could. If teams had fought as hard against City as they did against us it would've been our title.

      We've had 2 near perfect seasons..even City have fallen way below the standard we have set. We are going to get 200 points or as near as dammit over 2 seasons...unbelievable.
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      Reply #463: Jul 06, 2020 12:02:56 pm
      We've had 2 near perfect seasons..even City have fallen way below the standard we have set. We are going to get 200 points or as near as dammit over 2 seasons...unbelievable.

      It’s exactly what City managed until this season. It’s important we don’t fall apart next season like what’s happened to them this season.
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      Reply #464: Jul 06, 2020 12:26:26 pm
      It’s exactly what City managed until this season. It’s important we don’t fall apart next season like what’s happened to them this season.

      If falling apart involves being comfortably 2nd in the league, having won the League cup and still being in the FA Cup and CL, then I'd accept it ;-)
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      Reply #465: Jul 06, 2020 12:35:59 pm
      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.

      Agree with this myself. Should have put them to the sword but we seemed too worried about not losing as opposed to going for the kill

      We seem to still have a bit of a mental block when we go to Old Trafford, I think it's only two wins there in about 15 years
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      Reply #466: Jul 06, 2020 12:37:16 pm
      If falling apart involves being comfortably 2nd in the league, having won the League cup and still being in the FA Cup and CL, then I'd accept it ;-)

      Well they aren’t exactly comfortably 2nd are they, they are only about 6 points ahead of 3rd. Given they’ve lost 9 games this season, there is every chance they could lose again in the remaining games.

      If you think going from winning the league 2 years running with about 200 points and then finishing 20 odd points behind isn’t falling apart then you may be in for a shock if it happens. There’s every chance they will end up with just the league cup this season which would be a disaster for them, because despite still being in the FA Cup and CL, it means nothing unless they win it and you’ve said yourself in a different topic you can’t see them winning them 2 competitions. So are you sure you’d accept it?
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #467: Jul 06, 2020 01:38:04 pm
      the city game was a blip, like a lot of the games with city, 1st goal is crucial, we didnt take out chances, then they got theyre noses in front and we caved a wee it.

      Its in the past now, only 2nd defeat in league, and it was really a nothing game for us. so all good and all that stuff.
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      Reply #468: Jul 06, 2020 03:15:48 pm
      Well they aren’t exactly comfortably 2nd are they, they are only about 6 points ahead of 3rd. Given they’ve lost 9 games this season, there is every chance they could lose again in the remaining games.

      If you think going from winning the league 2 years running with about 200 points and then finishing 20 odd points behind isn’t falling apart then you may be in for a shock if it happens. There’s every chance they will end up with just the league cup this season which would be a disaster for them, because despite still being in the FA Cup and CL, it means nothing unless they win it and you’ve said yourself in a different topic you can seem them winning them 2 competitions. So are you sure you’d accept it?

      I've changed my mind, I want the PL again plus I want the CL, but without strengthening the forward line I'm not sure we'll get either.
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      Reply #469: Jul 06, 2020 03:27:40 pm
      If falling apart involves being comfortably 2nd in the league, having won the League cup and still being in the FA Cup and CL, then I'd accept it ;-)

      Not sure why people think City are going to walk the CL wouldn't surprise me one bit if they choked and got knocked out to Madrid.
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      Reply #470: Jul 06, 2020 04:25:24 pm
      Not sure why people think City are going to walk the CL wouldn't surprise me one bit if they choked and got knocked out to Madrid.

      I agree with that, I don't think their defence is good enough to win the CL. If they get through Real Madrid I'd love to see them against Atletico, really frustrate the hell out of them.
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      Reply #471: Jul 06, 2020 04:45:25 pm
      Not sure why people think City are going to walk the CL wouldn't surprise me one bit if they choked and got knocked out to Madrid.

      Totally agree and reckon Real will knock them out fairly easily
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      Reply #472: Jul 07, 2020 03:39:37 pm
      Quote from HUYTON RED
      Three leagues were the champions have hardly got any competition anyway!
      Bit different in a league were anyone can beat anyone as shown with Southampton's win v City.

      There's not really much competition for us atm. Finish ahead of one team and the league is ours. Which we've done.

      If the UEFA punishment stands, then that competition is removed for at least the next 3 years, as they will snowball down the table. The whole point of their existence is to win the European Cup. Without it, there's no point in any of the mercenaries being there.

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      We didn’t need to beat City for that. The 23 point difference says enough. Let them beat us when there is nothing to play for, the important thing is we beat them when there was something to play for.

      According to neutrals, the only reason they didn't win the league is, because their defence was crap. So if they just sort that out, then apparantly all their problems are solved. Before this game, I saw one bookie already make them odds-on favourites for the league next season, because according to them, they will splash the cash and we'll keep it in our pockets.

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      Throughout a season, at some stage there will always be games where you drop points you shouldn't against lesser teams and the argument could be made just as much for City, if they hadn't of dropped all them points over Xmas, then they wouldn't have had to rely on beating us. When 2 teams are separated by 1-2 points like what the case was last season with City, I think that ultimately you have to look at the head-to-head for that fixture. Being a point or 2 off is basically a mirror image of each other's season so whilst we dropped points vs West Ham and whoever else, it's no different to City dropping points vs the likes of Palace and Newcastle, the only difference in terms of points dropped was that we dropped 5 of ours against them, where as they only dropped 2 of theirs against us, so IMO the games vs City last season is what decided the title.

      We were 4 points ahead after that game last season, so we must have lost the league somewhere else. That somewhere else was the Leicester and West Ham draws imo. You expect us to win those games and we didn't. We didn't realise it at the time, but winning just one of them would have been enough and we would have No. 20 in the cabinet already.
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      Reply #473: Jul 07, 2020 04:32:05 pm
      According to neutrals, the only reason they didn't win the league is, because their defence was crap. So if they just sort that out, then apparantly all their problems are solved. Before this game, I saw one bookie already make them odds-on favourites for the league next season, because according to them, they will splash the cash and we'll keep it in our pockets.

      You sound surprised about the bookies. In theory it will increase City’s chances if they go and splash a load of cash, something they usually always do now. It would make no sense for the bookies to not have them as favourites. Especially if we don’t sign anyone again.

      The chances of City having another season where they are so far behind are slim when you consider the players they have. I don’t think it would have made a difference in terms of us winning the league but they would have been closer if they didn’t have Laporte injured for so long and Sane out all season. It’s no different to if we lost Virgil and Salah, the chances are we would have been worse off.

      So in terms of the odds, you would expect them to be much better next season so bookies will play it safe.

      But of course, I think a lot of their chances depend on what happens with their CL ban. If it stands then I think the likes of KDB, Aguero, Sterling etc will move on and then they will be in trouble. If that happens, I’m sure the bookies will have us as favourites to retain it and rightly so.


      We were 4 points ahead after that game last season, so we must have lost the league somewhere else. That somewhere else was the Leicester and West Ham draws imo. You expect us to win those games and we didn't. We didn't realise it at the time, but winning just one of them would have been enough and we would have No. 20 in the cabinet already.

      You’ve not understood what I was saying.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #474: Jul 07, 2020 07:00:23 pm
      It will be much closer next season, with us & City top of the food chain once again but Chelsea,United,Spurs even won't be far off. City will strengthen as will the others. Said you have to strengthen from a position of strength and if you let it drift you are playing catch up.

      We need better striking back up, improve the goal threat & goal return from midfield.Little bit less pressure on us as we are now course & distance winners. We will still demand a place at the top table of European football. There will be no let up on any front. Players of real promise are forcing their way through...City and the rest have to live with us now..not the other way round.

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