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      Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #437: Jul 03, 2020 04:40:13 pm
      I just want to say:

      We are Liverpool... Champions of England...
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #438: Jul 03, 2020 04:41:44 pm
      I actually think that result might have been good as it was the kick up the arse the team needed to finish the season well, knock them out of the celebration haze.  Judging by Klopp's spiky interview I'm fairly certain he'll be reminding them that there's still 6 games to play and he expects them to win them all!

      A team that’s had 3 defeats so far in two seasons after winning all major trophies available to them does not need a kick up the arse.. if anything these set of lads deserve a break from the intensity..,

      If it was up to me I’d blood the kids & players who have had lay offs due to injury..
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #439: Jul 03, 2020 04:47:58 pm
      We gave it fifteen minutes and then barely looked bothered. We were slack all over the park and we treated it like a pre season game. You see how annoyed van Dijk gets if we ever concede, but last night he wasn't fussed. It was a hollow victory for City, we weren't at it and it has no bearing on next season. Liverpool teams used to do this all the time in the 70s and 80s, win the league then get a hiding or two. Our season is basically over and Jürgen has had them playing as if it were pre season since we came back. This will be a good lesson for us and for him, it's all cool.

      But you can't get away from the fact that teams collectively just move down in intensity when they've won stuff. You don't concentrate as much, you don't run as hard, you aren't as crisp on the ball. If you're at 70-80% City will kill you, and they were also really motivated. We still should have scored a couple mind, Firmino early on and then Mane in the second. Had we been on it last night it would have been a good game because we did create chances. But we are a team that lives off energy and being intense. City are a slower passing team, but we need energy and motivation for our style to work. If we're not on it we struggle. This reminded me of when we have Chelsea a hiding a few days after they beat us in the 2012 FA Cup Final. We were delighted, they weren't arsed.

      Bring on 20/21!!!
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #440: Jul 03, 2020 06:52:41 pm
      I remember a miserable day out at Wembley a few years back when we lost the FA Cup final to Chelsea. 4 days later we played em again and spanked them 4-0 at Anfield and it didn’t mean a thing.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #441: Jul 04, 2020 11:24:55 am
      I remember a miserable day out at Wembley a few years back when we lost the FA Cup final to Chelsea. 4 days later we played em again and spanked them 4-0 at Anfield and it didn’t mean a thing.

      Similar with City and the League Cup final.
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      Reply #442: Jul 04, 2020 01:31:00 pm
      Well the last time they gave us a hammering we then upped it and started beating them pretty much every time. Yes they beat us at their place last season 2-1 but that was only because Kompany got away with murder.

      We’ll have them when there’s something to play for again.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #443: Jul 04, 2020 01:56:56 pm
      Well, I predicted the correct total number of goals. I just had them allocated differently.
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      Reply #444: Jul 05, 2020 01:08:45 am
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D




      « Last Edit: Jul 05, 2020 01:21:26 am by AussieRed »
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #445: Jul 05, 2020 10:02:42 am
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D






      ;D
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #446: Jul 05, 2020 11:48:57 am
      One or two finding it difficult to accept. We were playing City..they are a specialist attacking mob..and if you get high, play an open game and understandably in our case, not have the required application..then your gunner get turned over.

      That's it..it was, as I said earlier, a hollow victory for them. Hasn't dented our fantastic season, slightly scraped it but still..and I expect a few more poor results..it's human nature. No problem, we celebrate winning the league and we should be reminiscing about the great wins this season and who was player of the year etc.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #447: Jul 05, 2020 12:05:10 pm
      These ones are for you billythered  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:  :D :D









       :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:



      Brilliant mate, Jürgen must still be on it, can nobody find him ?






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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #448: Jul 05, 2020 01:08:17 pm
      Some people said they wanted us to go and win the league there. I said I didn't want to go there needing a result to win the league, and I think we saw why. But now that the pressure to get the result was off, I wanted to send out a statement and ram our superiority this season down their throats.

      A professional doesn't down tools when the title is won. You don't see PSG or Bayern or Celtic do it when winning a league with games to spare, and away to City is neither the time nor the place. We have players that have won leagues at other clubs before. Did they all take the rest of that season off, or continue as usual? City won their first game as champions 2 years ago, 5-0, and set a new benchmark in points won. We can do it also, but it means no siesta until the whistle goes at Newcastle in 3 weeks time.

      This game was a chance to remind City and everyone else why we won the league. All it did was give the likes of Singleton the chance to inform us that they, 20 points down the field, are the team to beat next year. Because of our 6th league defeat since 2018, all away from home, neutrals are yet to be convinced that we're not one season wonders.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #449: Jul 05, 2020 09:20:20 pm
      A professional doesn't down tools when the title is won. You don't see PSG or Bayern or Celtic do it when winning a league with games to spare, and away to City is neither the time nor the place. We have players that have won leagues at other clubs before. Did they all take the rest of that season off, or continue as usual? City won their first game as champions 2 years ago, 5-0, and set a new benchmark in points won. We can do it also, but it means no siesta until the whistle goes at Newcastle in 3 weeks time.



      Three leagues were the champions have hardly got any competition anyway!
      Bit different in a league were anyone can beat anyone as shown with Southampton's win v City.

      The fact Keane even spoke about it saying he felt it happened to him and Utd when they won it with 5 games to go, shows it can happen.
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #450: Jul 05, 2020 10:20:54 pm
      This game was a chance to remind City and everyone else why we won the league

      We didn’t need to beat City for that. The 23 point difference says enough. Let them beat us when there is nothing to play for, the important thing is we beat them when there was something to play for.
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      Reply #451: Jul 05, 2020 10:52:24 pm
      Don't get me wrong losing 4-0 against City hurt, but when you think about it beating City isn't what is going to win us titles year in, year out, getting more points than them and other contenders are what is going to do that.

      I think the hallmark of premier league champions isn't to get sucked into the 1v1's between the contenders but to think over the course of the season we need to be consistently the best team.

      I don't think United towards the end of SAF's reign were smashing the contenders, they were just getting it done over the course of the season and that's the kind of team I think Klopp has built now, one that is ready to go at it again and again.
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      Reply #452: Jul 05, 2020 11:28:45 pm
      when you think about it beating City isn't what is going to win us titles year in, year out

      To an extent yes, but you could argue that the reason they won the league ahead of us last season is because they took 4 points out of the 2 games against us.
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      Reply #453: Jul 05, 2020 11:37:50 pm
      To an extent yes, but you could argue that the reason they won the league ahead of us last season is because they took 4 points out of the 2 games against us.

      Indeed you could, but at the same time, draws against Everton, United and West Ham arguably cost us even more as they are easier wins. If we won those 3 the 4 points they took off us would have been redundant.
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      Reply #454: Jul 06, 2020 01:04:43 am
      Indeed you could, but at the same time, draws against Everton, United and West Ham arguably cost us even more as they are easier wins. If we won those 3 the 4 points they took off us would have been redundant.

      Throughout a season, at some stage there will always be games where you drop points you shouldn't against lesser teams and the argument could be made just as much for City, if they hadn't of dropped all them points over Xmas, then they wouldn't have had to rely on beating us. When 2 teams are separated by 1-2 points like what the case was last season with City, I think that ultimately you have to look at the head-to-head for that fixture. Being a point or 2 off is basically a mirror image of each other's season so whilst we dropped points vs West Ham and whoever else, it's no different to City dropping points vs the likes of Palace and Newcastle, the only difference in terms of points dropped was that we dropped 5 of ours against them, where as they only dropped 2 of theirs against us, so IMO the games vs City last season is what decided the title.
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      Reply #455: Jul 06, 2020 09:17:22 am
      Throughout a season, at some stage there will always be games where you drop points you shouldn't against lesser teams and the argument could be made just as much for City, if they hadn't of dropped all them points over Xmas, then they wouldn't have had to rely on beating us. When 2 teams are separated by 1-2 points like what the case was last season with City, I think that ultimately you have to look at the head-to-head for that fixture. Being a point or 2 off is basically a mirror image of each other's season so whilst we dropped points vs West Ham and whoever else, it's no different to City dropping points vs the likes of Palace and Newcastle, the only difference in terms of points dropped was that we dropped 5 of ours against them, where as they only dropped 2 of theirs against us, so IMO the games vs City last season is what decided the title.

      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.
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      Reply #456: Jul 06, 2020 10:49:14 am
      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.

      And attack is the best form of defence but I can't pick a bone over last season.I think we did as much as we could. If teams had fought as hard against City as they did against us it would've been our title.

      We've had 2 near perfect seasons..even City have fallen way below the standard we have set. We are going to get 200 points or as near as dammit over 2 seasons...unbelievable.
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      Reply #457: Jul 06, 2020 12:02:56 pm
      We've had 2 near perfect seasons..even City have fallen way below the standard we have set. We are going to get 200 points or as near as dammit over 2 seasons...unbelievable.

      It’s exactly what City managed until this season. It’s important we don’t fall apart next season like what’s happened to them this season.
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      Reply #458: Jul 06, 2020 12:26:26 pm
      It’s exactly what City managed until this season. It’s important we don’t fall apart next season like what’s happened to them this season.

      If falling apart involves being comfortably 2nd in the league, having won the League cup and still being in the FA Cup and CL, then I'd accept it ;-)
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      Re: Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #459: Jul 06, 2020 12:35:59 pm
      I still maintain that the game where we lost the title last season was the draw away to Manure when they had half the team out injured and for some reason we didn't really attack them, that was such a disappointing performance.

      Agree with this myself. Should have put them to the sword but we seemed too worried about not losing as opposed to going for the kill

      We seem to still have a bit of a mental block when we go to Old Trafford, I think it's only two wins there in about 15 years

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