Premier League or Champions League 2021

Cometely hypothetical scenario, but if you could only chose one to win next season - which would it be, and why?

I'm torn at the minute. Although we're champions, clinching the league at Anfield or lifting it in front of supporters is still something we won't be able to do for at least another year, plus it would be great to be one title away from being back on our "perch" in the English sense

On the other hand the European Cup for me is unrivalled, the biggest club competition in football by some distance, to win 7 and find ourselves level on 2nd with AC Milan would be incredible. Who cares about being one league title behind United if we've lapped them on European Cups? There's nothing like a European Cup final either, the build up, the atmosphere and excitement in the weeks prior, let alone the celebrations for many days after its won.

What's everyone's thoughts?

It has to be the PL again. If not we are going to hear it from all and sundry that we are one hit wonders and it’s going to be another 30 years before we win it again.

Id take Premier league, that would equal the mancs 20 league titles. were already miles ahead of them in european trophies.

But why not the double, we went deep into champions league this season, really shouldnt have lost to athletico, cant see many teams threatening us too much next season in europe.

Cometely hypothetical scenario, but if you could only chose one to win next season - which would it be, and why?

I'm torn at the minute. Although we're champions, clinching the league at Anfield or lifting it in front of supporters is still something we won't be able to do for at least another year, plus it would be great to be one title away from being back on our "perch" in the English sense

On the other hand the European Cup for me is unrivalled, the biggest club competition in football by some distance, to win 7 and find ourselves level on 2nd with AC Milan would be incredible. Who cares about being one league title behind United if we've lapped them on European Cups? There's nothing like a European Cup final either, the build up, the atmosphere and excitement in the weeks prior, let alone the celebrations for many days after its won.

What's everyone's thoughts?

Yes, I want us to win them.

Think it's always the Premier League for me. It's the holy grail after playing 38 matches in our domstic league.

If I had to chose then PL, strike whilst the iron's hot because in a few years time I'll be surprised if its just between us and City, but I agree with the others, there is no reason why we can't do both, if it wasn't for the bad luck of having Allison injured we'd probably be in the quarter finals this year with a damned good chance of progressing.

If I had to chose then PL, strike whilst the iron's hot because in a few years time I'll be surprised if its just between us and City, but I agree with the others, there is no reason why we can't do both, if it wasn't for the bad luck of having Allison injured we'd probably be in the quarter finals this year with a damned good chance of progressing.

Off topic slightly but injury wise you lads didn't do to bad last year compared to others.

Off topic slightly but injury wise you lads didn't do to bad last year compared to others.

yes and no, we actually had quite a few injuries, but not multiple ones in one area at the same time.

Not even a question...PL.

It has to be the PL again. If not we are going to hear it from all and sundry that we are one hit wonders and it’s going to be another 30 years before we win it again.

That's a good point. A lot of them have already started with the "you're not truly a great team unless you retain it" shtick

We can win both.

Gun to my head and I'd have to say retain the title.

Title, gotta take charge of your own back yard before thinking about taking charge of the world regularly.

Got to be league if we're talking about next year.

Two titles (with a 96 point season preceding it) and a European Cup would cement this team amongst the greatest to have ever played English football.

I'll take 3 PL titles in a row, then come and ask me again

I'll take 3 PL titles in a row, then come and ask me again

Anyone won three on the bounce 

Anyone won three on the bounce 

Liverpool: 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 can't remember the others   

Liverpool: 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 can't remember the others   

Isn't this thread the Premier league   

Given the choice Premier League every time, teams need to be consistent, over the season, of 38 matches.

A trip to Wembley would be nice

Winning the league takes precedence over every other competition whether it be the Mickey Mouse cup, the football League cup, the FA cup, the Europa thingy or indeed the biggest club competition as is the Champions League,
Winning the league, the so called Premier League with its new hat on is still the top most league of all, it is a measure of how your club, it’s players fair over 38 league games, it is the most difficult league to win above any other in Europe or indeed the world imo,

This particular version of the League began in 1992 when it became the ‘Premier League’ having split from the original Football League which originates from 1888, it still remains the top division in England despite having a new monicker, of which we have won 19 Times.


As the great Bill Shankly said, this is our bread & butter, you can have your cups and what not, but the league is the one we want each and every season without question, and so it should remain.





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I believe we'll win the PL at least once more with Klopp and I would love to see us successfully defend our title. I would make it our top priority next season.

Winning the league takes precedence over every other competition whether it be the Mickey Mouse cup, the football League cup, the FA cup, the Europa thingy or indeed the biggest club competition as is the Champions League,
Winning the league, the so called Premier League with its new hat on is still the top most league of all, it is a measure of how your club, it’s players fair over 38 league games, it is the most difficult league to win above any other in Europe or indeed the world imo,

This particular version of the League began in 1992 when it became the ‘Premier League’ having split from the original Football League which originates from 1888, it still remains the top division in England despite having a new monicker, of which we have won 19 Times.


As the great Bill Shankly said, this is our bread & butter, you can have your cups and what not, but the league is the one we want each and every season without question, and so it should remain.





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Good post Billy, in total agreement

Champions of England again.

League is the bread and butter

A trip to Wembley would be nice

It is a real shithole round there though.

Big ears. Biggest prize in the sport but I do see why people would say league as they want that moment at Anfield that the pandemic stopped and that’s fair.

I'm a greedy c**t...I always want both! 

Big ears. Biggest prize in the sport but I do see why people would say league as they want that moment at Anfield that the pandemic stopped and that’s fair.

Mate, not to single you out for any particular Reason, but you are completely wrong, this club, our institution was founded in 1892, 4 years after the start of the Football League, we as a club joined said association to play competitive association football against other members, at that time there was no competition from European clubs, our sole purpose was to win ‘The League’ as it was back then, Obviously as time progressed the league expanded with new members joining year on year,

The European cup/Champions League did not exist, that particular competition began in 1955/6, it was known back then as the European Champion clubs cup, our first sortie into a European competition didn’t arrive until Shanks took us into the UEFA cup in 1965, we were 73 years old by then, the Champions league, Old ‘Big Ears’ May be the biggest club competition there is, but it’s not the reason we became a football club,

Don’t get me wrong I love the CL, we’ve won the f**ker six fookin times with more to follow, but the league is the be all and end all competition, nothing else compares as Skinhead O’Connor once said, Winning the league gives you a free pass in to your favourite, it IS the best league certainly in Europe which means you are the best team in Europe, the CL is for other European clubs to tell us we’re not.






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it IS the best league certainly in Europe which means you are the best team in Europe, the CL is for other European clubs to tell us we’re not.

Don't agree with that - Leicester weren't the best team in Europe in 2016. United weren't the best team in Europe in 2009 & 2011 (Barcelona, who beat them in the final were)

Winning the Premier League simply means you're the champions of England

If I had to choose I'd pick the league title under the current circumstances. That would then give us the opportunity to win our 3rd on the spin the following year and take over United in terms of titles won. Even back to back titles would be great and would shut a lot of the naysayers up who are still desperately scouring for reasons to say that this isn't a truly great side.

The European Cup is the biggest prize for me though. If we end up in a situation in several years time where we've got a few titles under our belt and overtaken United I think the Champions League would go back to the prize which I'm most excited about. Not playing down the league in any way but the European Cup is the #1 for me. It's not uncommon for managers of the biggest sides to lose their jobs if they fail to win the European Cup - even if they win their domestic title, and it's largely the reason Manchester City shelled out on Pep Guardiola. I probably couldn't tell you who won the Spanish, Italian or German title from year X, Y or Z, but I could probably name every European Cup winning side going back 30 or so years. There's a reason for that. The excitement and occasion of a European Cup final is second to none too, something the Premier League can't compete with

If I had to choose I'd pick the league title under the current circumstances. That would then give us the opportunity to win our 3rd on the spin the following year and take over United in terms of titles won. Even back to back titles would be great and would shut a lot of the naysayers up who are still desperately scouring for reasons to say that this isn't a truly great side.

The European Cup is the biggest prize for me though. If we end up in a situation in several years time where we've got a few titles under our belt and overtaken United I think the Champions League would go back to the prize which I'm most excited about. Not playing down the league in any way but the European Cup is the #1 for me. It's not uncommon for managers of the biggest sides to lose their jobs if they fail to win the European Cup - even if they win their domestic title, and it's largely the reason Manchester City shelled out on Pep Guardiola. I probably couldn't tell you who won the Spanish, Italian or German title from year X, Y or Z, but I could probably name every European Cup winning side going back 30 or so years. There's a reason for that. The excitement and occasion of a European Cup final is second to none too, something the Premier League can't compete with

Go on then,

CL winners from 2000 to now, and no cheating!

Go on then,

CL winners from 2000 to now, and no cheating!

Madrid, Bayern, Madrid, Milan, Porto, Us, Barca, Milan, Utd, Barca, Inter, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Madrid, Madrid, Madrid, Us

Can probably give you the runners up too!

Mate, not to single you out for any particular Reason, but you are completely wrong, this club, our institution was founded in 1892, 4 years after the start of the Football League, we as a club joined said association to play competitive association football against other members, at that time there was no competition from European clubs, our sole purpose was to win ‘The League’ as it was back then, Obviously as time progressed the league expanded with new members joining year on year,

The European cup/Champions League did not exist, that particular competition began in 1955/6, it was known back then as the European Champion clubs cup, our first sortie into a European competition didn’t arrive until Shanks took us into the UEFA cup in 1965, we were 73 years old by then, the Champions league, Old ‘Big Ears’ May be the biggest club competition there is, but it’s not the reason we became a football club,

Don’t get me wrong I love the CL, we’ve won the f**ker six fookin times with more to follow, but the league is the be all and end all competition, nothing else compares as Skinhead O’Connor once said, Winning the league gives you a free pass in to your favourite, it IS the best league certainly in Europe which means you are the best team in Europe, the CL is for other European clubs to tell us we’re not.






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You made some great points  there and I understand them all. Shankly himself said the league is the bread and butter and the one you want to win it. That's totally fair. Me, myself I prefer the champions league because its simply more prestigious. Any of us know how much league titles Milan have ? I definitely don't but we all know how many European cups they have. Same for Bayern, Barca, Ajax etc. We might exist to win the league but the champions league is the most lucrative prize there is.

We aren't fully 'back on our perch' until we're ahead of those mutants on both leagues and european cups I understand also. But for me personally I love the allure of the european cup.

The "bread and butter" Shankly quote has been thrown about a lot but I think the context is important. Not sure when he actually said it but I presume it would have been some time between the late 60s & the early 70s. So not long before that, when it was dominated by Madrid for half a decade, the European Cup was an invitation only tournament and English teams didn't even bother taking part because they thought that it would hinder their domestic form. Shankly also had to watch his team fiddled out of the the semi final against Inter Milan 1965, so it's not hard to see why he may not have warmed to the competition and thought of the English title as the be all and end all.

Funnily enough, if you'd have asked Shankly (and a lot of Liverpool supporters) which competition they wanted to win above all at the start of the 1964/1965 season, he, and many others may have said the FA Cup. It was still seen as the most prestigious club competition in the world at the time due to a lot of European competitions being in their infancy and it was a competition we still hadn't won. We finally did win it that season and the celebrations in the city centre were unprecedented, dwarfing any championship parade from that era

I'm a greedy c**t...I always want both! 

Your right.......... You're a greedy c**t 

Madrid, Bayern, Madrid, Milan, Porto, Us, Barca, Milan, Utd, Barca, Inter, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Madrid, Madrid, Madrid, Us

Can probably give you the runners up too!

Very good, very impressive

I know Shanks said the League is our bread and butter, and he's still kind of right, but at the same time, the game has moved on from his time, and it has to be said that the Champions League is the most prestigious trophy there is.

Having said that, we've not won it as League Champions for a number of years, so it would be nice to do that.

So CL next year and League 2nd.

But both for preference.

sh*t, I don't know.
Feeling a bit spoiled with all the trophies over the last 12 months or so

Sh*t, I don't know.
Feeling a bit spoiled with all the trophies over the last 12 months or so

Hoping you don't get use to it 

Hoping you don't get use to it 

Suck it up Keith.

If Klopp does what he wants, and builds a dynasty you'll be watching this for a fair few years.

I'm sure your lot will bounce back at some point.
Like everything else, football goes in cycles, and it's our turn at the top

Suck it up Keith.

If Klopp does what he wants, and builds a dynasty you'll be watching this for a fair few years.

I'm sure your lot will bounce back at some point.
Like everything else, football goes in cycles, and it's our turn at the top

 

You made some great points  there and I understand them all. Shankly himself said the league is the bread and butter and the one you want to win it. That's totally fair. Me, myself I prefer the champions league because its simply more prestigious. Any of us know how much league titles Milan have ? I definitely don't but we all know how many European cups they have. Same for Bayern, Barca, Ajax etc. We might exist to win the league but the champions league is the most lucrative prize there is.

We aren't fully 'back on our perch' until we're ahead of those mutants on both leagues and european cups I understand also. But for me personally I love the allure of the european cup.

The CL may have a certain prestige mate and that’s fine, each to their own and all that , you asked if anybody knew how many titles AC Milan had won, well unless your a serie ‘A’ geek you wouldn’t, same as RM or Barca in La Liga, and how many each of them have won, but we can all hazard a guess of how times each have won the big fella, RM stand at 13, AC Milan 7, then ourselves at 6, Bayern M have 5, and I think Barca 4, the MUtants as you eloquently described them have only 3                         excuse the gap, that was me sniggering, anyhoo mate shall we just agree that winning the Premier league is the best league to win, and the CL is the best Cup to win, there, that’s better, thought you would agree,


Incidentally, I think We are fully back on our ‘Perch’ as we have won more silverware than those nasty MUtants.


Now I’m off, the missus has just brushed her teeth so there’s a good chance I might get rimmed 😂 😂 😂

Have a nice day.






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Hoping you don't get use to it 

I'm struggling to adapt as I'm overwhelmed by the trophies coming in thick and fast. Another trophy comes in before I've settled down. I can't cope, but there's even more to come.

The CL may have a certain prestige mate and that’s fine, each to their own and all that , you asked if anybody knew how many titles AC Milan had won, well unless your a serie ‘A’ geek you wouldn’t, same as RM or Barca in La Liga, and how many each of them have won, but we can all hazard a guess of how times each have won the big fella, RM stand at 13, AC Milan 7, then ourselves at 6, Bayern M have 5, and I think Barca 4, the MUtants as you eloquently described them have only 3                         excuse the gap, that was me sniggering, anyhoo mate shall we just agree that winning the Premier league is the best league to win, and the CL is the best Cup to win, there, that’s better, thought you would agree,


Incidentally, I think We are fully back on our ‘Perch’ as we have won more silverware than those nasty MUtants.


Now I’m off, the missus has just brushed her teeth so there’s a good chance I might get rimmed 😂 😂 😂

Have a nice day.






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Excuse the gap.                                         Good job I can take it. 

I know Shanks said the League is our bread and butter, and he's still kind of right, but at the same time, the game has moved on from his time, and it has to be said that the Champions League is the most prestigious trophy there is.

Having said that, we've not won it as League Champions for a number of years, so it would be nice to do that.

So CL next year and League 2nd.

But both for preference.

sh*t, I don't know.
Feeling a bit spoiled with all the trophies over the last 12 months or so

See normally I'd be going European Cup mate but just for next season if I had to choose one I'd like to see us retain the title.

See normally I'd be going European Cup mate but just for next season if I had to choose one I'd like to see us retain the title.

Been thinking about it for a while, and I'm still undecided, although leaning more towards retaining the title.

AND winning the CL 

League all day for me. Not only the wait but to have that moment in the stadium, with the fans present, will be something special.

But no reason we can’t do both, last year we won the CL and took the league to the final day. We can do that again I think.

The League every time... That said I'm still peed off we didn't go through against Atletico.

I would love the PL and CL double, if I had to only pick one, then it will be winning our 20th title to level out with that team.
Honestly, I feel if it wasn’t for our 6 year ban in Europe, we would of had 8-10 European cups.

The League every time... That said I'm still peed off we didn't go through against Atletico.

Yeah me to.  Thought that was nailed on, no way were they gonna claw that back.
Then the subs, then the keeper clanger, then it was over 🤷‍♂️
Still keep thinking..... IF ONLY....

The League !!!!

Poll added. Only two options, No. 20 or No. 7.

It is a real shithole round there though.

Yeah but we haven't been able to give the mad b***ard his own "We're on the march with Jürgen's army......." yet!!

That's the moment he goes el loco and tries to conquer the bloody world........oh wait already done that!! 

Madrid, Bayern, Madrid, Milan, Porto, Us, Barca, Milan, Utd, Barca, Inter, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Madrid, Madrid, Madrid, Us

Can probably give you the runners up too!

When they said Kopites were the most knowledgeable fans, they really meant Scousers

League every time

Yeah me to.  Thought that was nailed on, no way were they gonna claw that back.
Then the subs, then the keeper clanger, then it was over 🤷‍♂️
Still keep thinking..... IF ONLY....

Exactly right, I've been told I'm being greedy but we'd have had a great chance, league sewn up only single legs I believe, is that right? , we'd have pissed it I reckon... Have to let it go...

The League every time... That said I'm still peed off we didn't go through against Atletico.

Me too mate, but we got out foxed by Simeone and we have to give credit where it’s due, I hope they go all the way, it’s been shattering to go out and I just hope City don’t  f***in win it, anyone bar them, there more than likely to have their ban reduced, depending on what size of yacht the shaky Sheiks offer the decision makers, So to see them go out will somehow soften the blow, knowing it’ll be at least two seasons before the cheating kunts are in it again.






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Me too mate, but we got out foxed by Simeone and we have to give credit where it’s due, I hope they go all the way, it’s been shattering to go out and I just hope City don’t  f***in win it, anyone bar them, there more than likely to have their ban reduced, depending on what size of yacht the shaky Sheiks offer the decision makers, So to see them go out will somehow soften the blow, knowing it’ll be at least two seasons before the cheating kunts are in it again.






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Very true.. As gutted as I was last season to miss out on the league I felt we then trumped City by winning the CL.

The title definitely. I can't relax and the world makes no sense until we're ahead of them.

Without a shadow of doubt the league, imagine how much that would piss off Pep and City.

League all day, every day with Number 7 the Cherry on Top, just for good measure!

Premier League for sure, if we can pull our fingers out our arses now we’ve won one...