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      Liverpool all time XI on BBC Page
      Jul 23, 2020 05:31:09 pm
      Published recently, the most obvious ones of course but no mention of the great Roger Hunt anywhere! Never mind because was included in mine, absolute Liverpool great
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      Re: Liverpool all time XI on BBC Page
      Reply #1: Jul 23, 2020 05:34:52 pm
      Published recently, the most obvious ones of course but no mention of the great Roger Hunt anywhere! Never mind because was included in mine, absolute Liverpool great

      Possibly because in any Greatest XI one of either King Kenny & Rushie would get ahead of him in the stikers dept.

      In my eyes Rushie is our greatest striker.
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      Reply #2: Jul 23, 2020 05:36:33 pm
      I had him and Hunt up front in mine with Kenny, 4-3-3
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      Reply #3: Jul 23, 2020 05:40:00 pm
      I had him and Hunt up front in mine with Kenny, 4-3-3

      Fair shout, tbh I'm too young to really remember Hunt, he was one of my dad's heroes along with Peter Thompson
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      Reply #4: Jul 23, 2020 09:01:28 pm
      What a team! Would Souness and Gerrard work well together when both want to get forward? Barnes behind that front three? At least there would be 120 goals a season.

      Here's the link to the referenced page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51628666
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      Reply #5: Jul 24, 2020 04:16:20 pm
      As Jürgen would say, "I am only permitted to select 11 players."

      We've had way more greats than that.
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      Reply #6: Jul 24, 2020 07:00:26 pm
      Decided to only do it based on players I’ve seen and it’s still a tough job. Went with the below in a 4 3 3

      Allison
      Trent
      Sami
      VVD
      Robertson
      Stevie
      Alonso
      Hendo
      Salah
      Torres
      Suarez

      Picking the front 3 was an impossible job, we’ve really had some great forwards
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      Re: Liverpool all time XI on BBC Page
      Reply #7: Jul 26, 2020 01:04:33 am
      Nah I’m sorry but Suarez never makes our greatest XI
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      Reply #8: Jul 26, 2020 06:59:12 am
      This alway gives me a fookin headache, barstewards, after mulling my way through our history I’ve gone for those who I seen play & of the current heroes who I have not, there are too many to mention who miss out but shouldn’t but we can only name X1, some I have chosen are legends, one or two probably regarded as our best, and one or two who in time may become legends, anyhoo, this is what I consider MY best X1.........Oh, it’s ok, I’ve got my tin hat on if you wanna chuck some missiles......





                                                                        Clemence

                                                    Neale.     Hansen.    Virgil.    Robertson

                                                          Gerrard.   Sourness.   Barnes

                                                             Dalglish.    Rush.   Fowler


      Not sure many if any would get past these beauts,  they cover pretty much the 70’s thru to present day, you could make three or four unbelievable teams with the players who we have to leave out, from Tommy Smith, Emlyn, Thommo, Terry Mac, R Kennedy, Carra, Beardsley, Hunt, Cally Aldo, Molby, the list is endless,

      I’m stopping now ,f***in head is pounding.






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      Re: Liverpool all time XI on BBC Page
      Reply #9: Jul 26, 2020 11:04:19 am
      Nah I’m sorry but Suarez never makes our greatest XI
      There is obviously a distinction to be made between greatest and best, in which case I agree with you on the greatest part, however I think there is a pretty compelling argument for
      him to be in our best XI. He is not a great in the sense that his time with us was shrouded in controversy and he didn’t win any major silverware with us (league cup aside). I would say though that he is the most gifted player I have ever seen in a red shirt and he would undoubtedly make my best XI. The 13/14 season was something quite special. He scored 31 goals in 31 games in the Premier League and some of them were other-worldly.
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      Reply #10: Jul 26, 2020 12:01:52 pm
      Nah I’m sorry but Suarez never makes our greatest XI

      Thing is on footballing ability, he walks in easily as he's probably the most natural footballer I've seen pull on a red shirt.
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      Reply #11: Jul 26, 2020 09:33:19 pm
      Thing is on footballing ability, he walks in easily as he's probably the most natural footballer I've seen pull on a red shirt.

      Stevie is on a BBC Podcast and when asked who was the best Liverpool player he has ever played with its Luis.
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      Reply #12: Jul 26, 2020 11:54:03 pm
      Thing is on footballing ability, he walks in easily as he's probably the most natural footballer I've seen pull on a red shirt.

      Agree with this.  Putting aside his huge flaws, he is/was the best player I ever saw play for us.  2013 him would start over any of our front three now and that's a huge compliment.
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      Reply #13: Jul 30, 2020 08:41:46 pm
      It was rigged.

      Tried putting all Reds in each position but not possible. ;D

      F**k the license fee for that !
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      Re: Liverpool all time XI on BBC Page
      Reply #14: Aug 04, 2020 10:32:49 am
      From what I've seen:

      Alisson

      Alexander Arnold
      Hyypia
      Van Dijk
      Robertson

      Alonso
      Gerrard

      Salah
      Suarez
      Mane

      Torres
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      Reply #15: Aug 04, 2020 05:28:06 pm
      There is obviously a distinction to be made between greatest and best, in which case I agree with you on the greatest part, however I think there is a pretty compelling argument for
      him to be in our best XI. He is not a great in the sense that his time with us was shrouded in controversy and he didn’t win any major silverware with us (league cup aside). I would say though that he is the most gifted player I have ever seen in a red shirt and he would undoubtedly make my best XI. The 13/14 season was something quite special. He scored 31 goals in 31 games in the Premier League and some of them were other-worldly.

      Completely agree in regards to natural talent and ability Suarez something else especially the season mentioned
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      Reply #16: Aug 08, 2020 02:41:37 pm
      Nah I’m sorry but Suarez never makes our greatest XI

      Agree

      Just thought through my favourite forwards in my time and he doesn’t get into the top ten let alone in a team
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      Reply #17: Aug 08, 2020 04:51:01 pm
      Agree

      Just thought through my favourite forwards in my time and he doesn’t get into the top ten let alone in a team

      Seriously can you name them I am intrigued to know 10 better forwards than Suarez
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      Reply #18: Aug 14, 2020 05:50:17 pm
      Agree

      Just thought through my favourite forwards in my time and he doesn’t get into the top ten let alone in a team

      Still waiting
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      Reply #19: Aug 15, 2020 10:46:29 am

      I'll have a go..
      Harry Chambers
      Gordon Hodgson
      Liddell
      Hunt
      Keegan
      Rush
      Dalglish
      Fowler
      Owen
      Salah

      So it's not necessarily a given that Suarez gets in. I might have him in but others might not.
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      Reply #20: Aug 15, 2020 11:02:35 am
      I'll have a go..
      Harry Chambers
      Gordon Hodgson
      Liddell
      Hunt
      Keegan
      Rush
      Dalglish
      Fowler
      Owen
      Salah

      So it's not necessarily a given that Suarez gets in. I might have him in but others might not.

      Harry Chambers you must be knocking on if you saw him play . Do you really think ability wise that him Hunt and most others better than Suarez
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      Reply #21: Aug 15, 2020 11:10:41 am
      Harry Chambers you must be knocking on if you saw him play . Do you really think ability wise that him Hunt and most others better than Suarez

      Well the thread is called "All time LFC X1"..and it doesn't have to be on pure footballing ability. One goal is worth one goal. Hunt outscored Suarez. On his day, as I said I might have Suarez in but it's not a shoo in. On individual goals Suarez is up there with the best but we didn't win anything while he was here.

      And if you count in Suarez's negativity, there's plenty of reasons to leave him out.
      « Last Edit: Aug 15, 2020 11:18:53 am by Harrisimo »
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      Reply #22: Aug 15, 2020 11:21:57 am
      Well the thread is called "All time LFC X1"..and it doesn't have to be on pure footballing ability. One goal is worth one goal. Hunt outscored Suarez. On his day, as I said I might have Suarez in but it's not a shoo in. On individual goals Suarez is up there with the best but we didn't win anything while he was here.

      I understand what the thread is called and I didnt see "But you need to have won something " . Also if you were asked to name your all time top 10 favourite songs or films would you pick one that you had never heard or seen because it won lots of Oscar's or spent most time at number 1 . Not saying he is a shoe in at all but 10 better strikers based on ability ,goals scored ,creativity nah not having it sorry
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      Reply #23: Aug 15, 2020 11:39:13 am
      I understand what the thread is called and I didnt see "But you need to have won something " . Also if you were asked to name your all time top 10 favourite songs or films would you pick one that you had never heard or seen because it won lots of Oscar's or spent most time at number 1 . Not saying he is a shoe in at all but 10 better strikers based on ability ,goals scored ,creativity nah not having it sorry

      But it's not on whether you actually saw the player play. Yes I might put Suarez in but this is LFC and our history, as you know, is full of great attacking players, who all scored great goals. To put Suarez in is a risk and that risk has to be set against who you leave out. OK I will accept that risk and put Suarez in to that top ten great LFC forwards but that doesn't guarantee him a place in the All Time X1..

      Suarez first 2 seasons returned 52 (21)...then his last 2 81(61)...but his last season here was marred by his odd eccentric behavior. He definitely brought the club into disrepute. Some might not have him in because of that and that's a legit reason for not having him in any top 10. So nobody should just rubberstamp Suarez in to that top 10 list. I'll concede and have him in but I could be persuaded to ditch him.

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      Reply #24: Aug 15, 2020 11:47:27 am
      But it's not on whether you actually saw the player play. Yes I might put Suarez in but this is LFC and our history, as you know, is full of great attacking players, who all scored great goals. To put Suarez in is a risk and that risk has to be set against who you leave out. OK I will accept that risk and put Suarez in to that top ten great LFC forwards but that doesn't guarantee him a place in the All Time X1..

      Suarez first 2 seasons returned 52 (21)...then his last 2 81(61)...but his last season here was marred by his odd eccentric behavior. He definitely brought the club into disrepute. Some might not have him in because of that and that's a legit reason for not having him in any top 10. So nobody should just rubberstamp Suarez in to that top 10 list. I'll concede and have him in but I could be persuaded to ditch him.

      Fair enough again I suppose it depends on what you base your opinions on as well as ability there are other factors as you mention behaviour and conduct etc
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      Reply #25: Aug 15, 2020 11:56:38 am
      Fair enough again I suppose it depends on what you base your opinions on as well as ability there are other factors as you mention behaviour and conduct etc

      Unfortunately I didn't see Harry play. Bit of a sad story in many ways but Harry Chambers is remembered by many I'm sure.

      https://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/572
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      Reply #26: Aug 15, 2020 12:02:08 pm
      Unfortunately I didn't see Harry play. Bit of a sad story in many ways but Harry Chambers is remembered by many I'm sure.

      https://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/572

      Yes a good read on player unfamiliar sad as you say what happened how times have changed regarding finances and well being
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      Reply #27: Aug 15, 2020 12:37:50 pm
      Well the thread is called "All time LFC X1"..and it doesn't have to be on pure footballing ability. One goal is worth one goal. Hunt outscored Suarez. On his day, as I said I might have Suarez in but it's not a shoo in. On individual goals Suarez is up there with the best but we didn't win anything while he was here.

      And if you count in Suarez's negativity, there's plenty of reasons to leave him out.

      There's a slight bridge on points as well

      It's all time Liverpool 11 for one

      Now I honestly honestly can say in my all time 11 Suarez doesn't get in. No where near

      I also said my favourite strikers and he wouldnt get in the top 10 of those

      He then said name ten better.
      That's different from favourite
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      Reply #28: Aug 15, 2020 01:03:33 pm
      There's a slight bridge on points as well

      It's all time Liverpool 11 for one

      Now I honestly honestly can say in my all time 11 Suarez doesn't get in. No where near

      I also said my favourite strikers and he wouldnt get in the top 10 of those

      He then said name ten better.
      That's different from favourite

      Yes we all have our favourite players.In all sports fans have their likes and dislikes obviously but in assessing their contribution to the cause I think we have to set aside any favouritism. In a sense with so much history to draw on it's very difficult to say my picks are better than yours or whatever.

      On ability I would put Suarez in the top 10...but only just. Does he get in the all time best X1..again it's down to indivdual choice. Gerrard said Suarez was the best forward he played with. Can't argue with him and although Suarez just scrapes into my top 10 I might pick him for my final all time X1...purely on Gerrards recommendation...but on second thoughts this is my pick...so..er..I'll get back to yer on this one..
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      Reply #29: Aug 15, 2020 01:35:32 pm
      There's a slight bridge on points as well

      It's all time Liverpool 11 for one

      Now I honestly honestly can say in my all time 11 Suarez doesn't get in. No where near

      I also said my favourite strikers and he wouldnt get in the top 10 of those

      He then said name ten better.
      That's different from favourite

      Oh right so it was all time Favourite X1 not best X1 misread that
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      Reply #30: Aug 15, 2020 04:09:05 pm
      All time get stuck in X1..

      Grobbelaar

      Tommy Smith
      Razzor Ruddick
      Larry Lloyd
      Julian Dicks

      Graeme Souness
      Jimmy Case
      Steve McMahon

      Roger Hunt
      Luis Suarez
      Johnny Morrissey

      ..crunch...

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