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      Robby The Z
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      Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Jul 28, 2020 06:21:13 pm
      Just two weeks before pre-season training begins, which apparently will put us behind some clubs, especially those still in the Champions League who, I guess, get no break at all.

      Chris Bascombe has an article saying we won't be doing this training at the new Kirkby facility, but will remain at Melwood at least for the preseason due to construction delays re CoVid. Not sure when that transition will actually take place.

      Our squad will lose two senior English players (Lallana and Clyne) and at least one senior foreign player (Lovren). It has been said Neco Williams is Clyne's replacement and Curtis Jones is Lallana's.

      That leaves us with the following heading into preseason

      Goalkeeper
      Alisson
      Adrian
      Karius
      Grabara
      Kelleher

      Center Back
      Virgil
      Gomez
      Matip
      Hoever
      Van den Berg

      Right Back
      Trent
      Williams

      Left Back
      Robertson

      Central Midfield
      Fabinho
      Wijnaldum
      Henderson
      Keita
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Milner
      Jones
      Grujic

      Forward
      Firmino
      Salah
      Mane
      Origi
      Minamino
      Shaqiri
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Brewster
      Wilson
      Elliott



      Are we confident this remains a Premier League-winning squad?

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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #1: Jul 28, 2020 06:39:32 pm
      Just two weeks before pre-season training begins, which apparently will put us behind some clubs, especially those still in the Champions League who, I guess, get no break at all.

      Chris Bascombe has an article saying we won't be doing this training at the new Kirkby facility, but will remain at Melwood at least for the preseason due to construction delays re CoVid. Not sure when that transition will actually take place.

      Our squad will lose two senior English players (Lallana and Clyne) and at least one senior foreign player (Lovren). It has been said Neco Williams is Clyne's replacement and Curtis Jones is Lallana's.

      That leaves us with the following heading into preseason

      Goalkeeper
      Alisson
      Adrian
      Karius
      Grabara
      Kelleher

      Center Back
      Virgil
      Gomez
      Matip
      Hoever
      Van den Berg

      Right Back
      Trent
      Williams

      Left Back
      Robertson

      Central Midfield
      Fabinho
      Wijnaldum
      Henderson
      Keita
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Milner
      Jones
      Grujic

      Forward


      Firmino
      Salah
      Mane
      Origi
      Minamino
      Shaqiri
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Brewster
      Wilson
      Elliott



      Are we confident this remains a Premier League-winning squad?

      Maximum squad size is 25 for the Premier League, so that needs whittling down some.
      We'll see a few of the young loads go out on loan.

      I'd prefer to keep Brewster here.

      Can't imagine that Hoever and Van Den Berg are ready for the prem yet.

      Grujic should either be forcing his way in, or on his way out at 24, but I guess pre-season will sort that.

      I'd guess Allison and Adrian will be our 2 main 'keepers (in the 25).

      Overall, there's room for players to come in, and looking at the list it's CB that needs backup, unless Fabinho fills in, but I don't really see that as a long term option, although that depends on how the young lads are coming along.

      Strong enough to challenge and win, maybe not strong enough to get 99 points again .
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #2: Jul 28, 2020 07:15:03 pm
      We need a proper back up for Robbo, Milner is fine short term but he’s another season older and another season slower, it’s the only position we’re light, yes Gomez too can fill in but that would upset the balance, and considerably weaken central defence,  we need a proper LB not a stand in, I was disappointed with Larouci, his attitude is all wrong, so who ever is bending his ear needs a poke in the eye,

      This could be a breakthrough season for Hoever, with Lovren now @ Zenit, a opening has arisen for him to push Matip & Gomez, can’t see him shifting Joe but it’s possible he could compete with Joel and force his hand, but he needs to work like a Trojan @ Kirby and give Jürgen food for thought,

      Another position I feel we need to address is in midfield, we could do with a creative clever player that can unleash havoc in the final third, it’s abundantly clear that won’t be Coutinho, but could a Grealish, or  Maddison be that player ?
      I think Jürgen will change / alter things slightly next season, teams are figuring out how to counter us , aka Watford, so perhaps Jürgen wants to try a different but equally difficult to style to play against,


      Could we see more of Jones & Elliot and do no transfer business at all ?


      I guess we’ll all find out soon enough.







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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #3: Jul 28, 2020 10:43:41 pm
      Maximum squad size is 25 for the Premier League, so that needs whittling down some.
      We'll see a few of the young loads go out on loan.

      I'd prefer to keep Brewster here.

      Can't imagine that Hoever and Van Den Berg are ready for the prem yet.

      Grujic should either be forcing his way in, or on his way out at 24, but I guess pre-season will sort that.

      I'd guess Allison and Adrian will be our 2 main 'keepers (in the 25).

      Overall, there's room for players to come in, and looking at the list it's CB that needs backup, unless Fabinho fills in, but I don't really see that as a long term option, although that depends on how the young lads are coming along.

      Strong enough to challenge and win, maybe not strong enough to get 99 points again .

      Not sure if  Hoever and Van den Berg count against the squad limit due to their age. Same with Harvey Elliott and Caiomin Kelleher. That would take it down to 27 if correct. It does indeed seem central defense is the most likely area in which to add.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #4: Jul 29, 2020 08:59:38 am
      Not sure if  Hoever and Van den Berg count against the squad limit due to their age. Same with Harvey Elliott and Caiomin Kelleher. That would take it down to 27 if correct. It does indeed seem central defense is the most likely area in which to add.

      I believe if you're aged 20 or younger on 01/01/2020 you should be able to play in the coming season without being registered. So Hoever, Van Den Berg & Elliot should be sound (Brewster & Jones too). Kelleher was 21 in November so he would take up a place

      ...This is all according to the registration rules Football Manager though, so I could be wrong! ;D
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #5: Jul 29, 2020 09:43:04 am
      Just two weeks before pre-season training begins, which apparently will put us behind some clubs, especially those still in the Champions League who, I guess, get no break at all.

      Chris Bascombe has an article saying we won't be doing this training at the new Kirkby facility, but will remain at Melwood at least for the preseason due to construction delays re CoVid. Not sure when that transition will actually take place.

      Our squad will lose two senior English players (Lallana and Clyne) and at least one senior foreign player (Lovren). It has been said Neco Williams is Clyne's replacement and Curtis Jones is Lallana's.

      That leaves us with the following heading into preseason

      Goalkeeper
      Alisson
      Adrian
      Karius
      Grabara
      Kelleher

      Center Back
      Virgil
      Gomez
      Matip
      Hoever
      Van den Berg

      Right Back
      Trent
      Williams

      Left Back
      Robertson

      Central Midfield
      Fabinho
      Wijnaldum
      Henderson
      Keita
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Milner
      Jones
      Grujic

      Forward
      Firmino
      Salah
      Mane
      Origi
      Minamino
      Shaqiri
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Brewster
      Wilson
      Elliott



      Are we confident this remains a Premier League-winning squad?



      I think Karius, Grujic, Wilson and Shaq will be sold over the next few weeks.

      We definitely need CB and LB cover.

      I would like us to bring in a wide player with pace also.

      After that we are good to go again.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #6: Jul 29, 2020 10:00:45 am
      I suspect Williams will be the cover for Left and RB this season - can’t see the club spending money on another LB

      We know that Klopp likes a small squad and is more than happy to manipulate and mix around the squad.

      I can really only seeing maybe one or two arrivals depending on the situation with Gini , Shaqiri and Origi

      Wilson and Grujic can really only be sold on now
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #7: Jul 29, 2020 10:03:39 am
      Shame Bournemouth have wen't down really as they'd have probably given us a king's ransom for Wilson going off what they paid for Ibe and Solanke
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      Reply #8: Jul 29, 2020 10:11:08 am
      CB and LB stick out as must improve areas.

      After that it should be an attacker. Still maintain the drop off from our front three to our backup is just far too great and I'd be happy to move on Origi, Shaqiri and Wilson to make room for one.

      I see some of the 'ITKs' are still banging on about Thiago as well. Whilst I think he would add something new to our midfield, I just don't see the room for him unless Gini leaves.
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      Reply #9: Jul 29, 2020 01:57:29 pm
      Shame Bournemouth have wen't down really as they'd have probably given us a king's ransom for Wilson going off what they paid for Ibe and Solanke

      Or they might be loathe to pay us much for him given what has transpired with those two (although Solanke did score a couple of goals after the restart, finally).

      Don't be too surprised if Klopp doesn't decide to keep Marko Grujic around.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #10: Jul 29, 2020 02:32:06 pm
      If Swansea come up I'd like to keep Brewster there. I want that kid get a lot of time in the EPL before he comes to us. Kids got the factor. 
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #11: Jul 29, 2020 03:42:33 pm
      ...

      Strong enough to challenge and win, maybe not strong enough to get 99 points again .


      So you're saying that Lallana and Lovren contributed so much that we can't repeat the 99?
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      Reply #12: Jul 29, 2020 08:47:32 pm
      Difficult to improve on our best 11 without spending a fair chunk, but in terms of improving the squad:

      Adrian is perhaps not a perfect option, but I'm fine with him for next season. He only played as much as he did because of a freak injury to Alisson, no reason to think that'll happen again.

      I'd be concerned about going into a new season with just VVD, Gomez and Matip. I'm reluctant to think Phillips will make it here and probably too soon for VDB.

      With Larouci leaving I'd like to see a proper LB backup. Either Jamal Lewis at Norwich or Lloyd Kelly at would fit the bill at a reasonable price. Kelly can also play CB.

      The other obvious CB option is Ben White who we've been linked to a lot.

      Between Hendo, Fab, Keita, Gini, Jones Ox and Milner we have enough bodies, so while I wouldn't mind seeing Thiago in a Liverpool shirt, I'm doubting we do any business here.

      Minamino, Origi, Elliott, Shaqiri, Wilson maybe Brewster? There's definite room for improvement here. Perhaps with sales of Shaqiri, Origi and Wilson we could raise enough funds to bring in a better fit player.

      Overall I'm not really expecting much in arrivals. Not too concerned. Keita and Minamino are both capable of adding more meaningful contributions.

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      Reply #13: Jul 29, 2020 10:03:25 pm
      Given Matip’s dreadful injury record And the sale of Lovren I’d say that now puts centre-half depth somewhere near the top of the list. However is a bright prospect, he’s silky smooth on the ball But he’s still very young and at least a season awAy from being physically ready imho. I’d expect an experienced CB to come in, think Klavan but better than Klavan.

      Next for me would be another wide Forward. We’ve been fortunate that neither Mo nor Mane has suffered any serious injuries but take one of them out for 3 months and we’ll feel the effects.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #14: Jul 30, 2020 12:02:23 pm
      Just two weeks before pre-season training begins, which apparently will put us behind some clubs, especially those still in the Champions League who, I guess, get no break at all.

      Chris Bascombe has an article saying we won't be doing this training at the new Kirkby facility, but will remain at Melwood at least for the preseason due to construction delays re CoVid. Not sure when that transition will actually take place.

      Our squad will lose two senior English players (Lallana and Clyne) and at least one senior foreign player (Lovren). It has been said Neco Williams is Clyne's replacement and Curtis Jones is Lallana's.

      That leaves us with the following heading into preseason

      Goalkeeper
      Alisson
      Adrian
      Karius
      Grabara
      Kelleher

      Center Back
      Virgil
      Gomez
      Matip
      Hoever
      Van den Berg

      Right Back
      Trent
      Williams

      Left Back
      Robertson

      Central Midfield
      Fabinho
      Wijnaldum
      Henderson
      Keita
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Milner
      Jones
      Grujic

      Forward
      Firmino
      Salah
      Mane
      Origi
      Minamino
      Shaqiri
      Oxlaide-Chamberlin
      Brewster
      Wilson
      Elliott



      Are we confident this remains a Premier League-winning squad?



      I can see us adding a CB & LB, probably guys in early 20s, cheapish pure off the radar buys.

      The great thing for me going into next season is taki & naby lad, have now settled in, if they keep fit, our attacking MF looks much stronger especially with the ox having been fit now for most of 2020 too. The newcastle showed how we can play without the main men up front.

      All the young guys coming through like williams, elliott & Jones are pushing for more games.

      1st 11-14 players are pretty much solid and still hungry.

      Its all good.

      In a perfect world we would spend on 1 big name, dont know who or what position, we have already freed up lots of wages and got 10mill for lovren.

      Going to be an interesting transfer window anyway.
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      Reply #15: Jul 30, 2020 12:03:44 pm
      ps. I think brewster would be best given another loan, playing every week at a good level, rather than being super sub for us.

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      Reply #16: Jul 30, 2020 12:17:53 pm
      Jones no doubt takes Lallana's minutes squad wise, but reckon the club needs to look at a player that can play CB/LB.

      Lallana out.
      Clyne out.
      Lovren out.

      Surely there is an opportunity to sign one top player,
      but Aki to City for 41M is going to skew the market when there should be bargains out there due to COVID.

      It will be interesting to see what deals are out there despite City and Chelsea.
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      Reply #17: Jul 30, 2020 12:39:49 pm
      Jones no doubt takes Lallana's minutes squad wise, but reckon the club needs to look at a player that can play CB/LB.

      Lallana out.
      Clyne out.
      Lovren out.

      Surely there is an opportunity to sign one top player,
      but Aki to City for 41M is going to skew the market when there should be bargains out there due to COVID.

      It will be interesting to see what deals are out there despite City and Chelsea.

      Gotta be Alaba for me, he can literally fill the CM role too, so would also be a successor to Milner once he moves on from the club too.
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      Reply #18: Jul 30, 2020 01:16:39 pm
      Gotta be Alaba for me, he can literally fill the CM role too, so would also be a successor to Milner once he moves on from the club too.

      He can cover everywhere but his wage demands are astronomical. Apparently he won't sign a new deal for Bayern unless he gets 20m a year.
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      Reply #19: Jul 30, 2020 01:44:52 pm
      So you're saying that Lallana and Lovren contributed so much that we can't repeat the 99?

      No.

      Don't be a tit.
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      Reply #20: Jul 30, 2020 01:47:15 pm

      Not in that sense.

      I think we will challenge again if no one of the big boys are sold.
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      Reply #21: Jul 30, 2020 03:44:38 pm
      I can see us adding a CB & LB, probably guys in early 20s, cheapish pure off the radar buys.

      The great thing for me going into next season is taki & naby lad, have now settled in, if they keep fit, our attacking MF looks much stronger especially with the ox having been fit now for most of 2020 too. The newcastle showed how we can play without the main men up front.

      All the young guys coming through like williams, elliott & Jones are pushing for more games.

      1st 11-14 players are pretty much solid and still hungry.

      Its all good.

      In a perfect world we would spend on 1 big name, dont know who or what position, we have already freed up lots of wages and got 10mill for lovren.

      Going to be an interesting transfer window anyway.

      My only pushback on this is regarding Minamino. I haven't seen it yet from him. Not saying he won't come good but even in a 3/4k-paced match vs. Newcastle I thought his final product was fairly ordinary. He was a low-cost purchase and Jürgen and Co. will continue their work in developing him, but so far he hasn't gotten there.

      Naby has shown much more, when able to stay fit.
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      Reply #22: Jul 30, 2020 03:45:57 pm
      Not in that sense.

      I think we will challenge again if no one of the big boys are sold.

      I said we'll challenge.

      I also said I don't think we'll get 99 points again.

      We're still capable of getting over 90, but other teams are going to be stronger next year., so it stands to reason we probably won't get as many points.

      In fact, I think between 90 and 95 points will win the league next season.
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      Reply #23: Jul 30, 2020 04:22:39 pm
      I said we'll challenge.

      I also said I don't think we'll get 99 points again.

      We're still capable of getting over 90, but other teams are going to be stronger next year., so it stands to reason we probably won't get as many points.

      In fact, I think between 90 and 95 points will win the league next season.

      ;D Reasons to be optimistic. Means we’ll win it. 

      But it’s so many points. Surely we can’t expect ourselves to be blowing teams away for points in every game. Some will be easy, while others difficult. Just pick up points. That’s the reality.  I don’t care how it’s done. VAR or whatever... Blowing teams away is a bonus for me.
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      Reply #24: Jul 30, 2020 04:34:40 pm
      ;D Reasons to be optimistic. Means we’ll win it. 

      But it’s so many points. Surely we can’t expect ourselves to be blowing teams away for points in every game. Some will be easy, while others difficult. Just pick up points. That’s the reality.  I don’t care how it’s done. VAR or whatever... Blowing teams away is a bonus for me.

      If we did it this season then there is no reason we can't do it again, the only teams who will be stronger next season are Manure and Chavs. City may be slightly better as well, but then they are already pretty damned good and we only play them twice.
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      Reply #25: Jul 30, 2020 04:59:53 pm
      Considering the Gaffa said next season we will attack. For him to say that might mean he will bring in more direct goal threat from the front 6. I hope he does recruit one or two more quality front men. Divock might move on but much as I like him I think we need a bit more clout.

      Ox hasn't kicked on since his injury. Nabby looks good at times. Mini has potential, Jones likewise But do we need to get in proven goal threat from midfield.

      We were I believe after Pulisic so the Gaffa is thinking along the attacking lines.
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      Reply #26: Jul 30, 2020 05:06:05 pm
      ;D Reasons to be optimistic. Means we’ll win it. 

      But it’s so many points. Surely we can’t expect ourselves to be blowing teams away for points in every game. Some will be easy, while others difficult. Just pick up points. That’s the reality.  I don’t care how it’s done. VAR or whatever... Blowing teams away is a bonus for me.

      I think it'll be between us and city again.

      Chavs will lack consistency, and their defense is pretty sh*t.

      United flatter to deceive, and also lack consistency, plus their defense is Maguire'd and De Gea has forgotten how to keep goal.

      Spurs look like they're shot, and past their best.

      Leicester will be hoping to nick a top 4 slot.

      Arsenal; Who?

      As it stands, I can't see past us and city for the title.

      It would be nice to get another CB in, possibly a LB and another forward if Klopp thinks Brewster isn't quite there yet.
      If Keita stays fit, his running gives us another dimension, as does Ox's when he's on form.
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      Reply #27: Jul 30, 2020 05:39:07 pm
      I think the squad is in good shape for the most part.  The only 3 things we could use are:

      -  A new CB to replace Lovren.  Hopefully one who is capable of competing with Joe for the right to partner Virg at the back.
      -  A versatile forward who can can fill any of the front 3 positions without a drop in quality.
      -  A backup LB to give Robbo the occasional rest. 

      With the right recruit, 1 player could check 2 of those boxes as a CB and backup LB -- I like Ake but it seems he's off to City. 

      I'm excited to see the continued growth and development of some of our young players like Jones, Williams, Elliot, and Brewster.  Also, I've read that Klopp really likes Van Den Berg, so it will be interesting to see if he plays a more important role this season. 

      Best part is that the new season is only 6 weeks away!!! 
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      Reply #28: Jul 30, 2020 08:23:11 pm
      I’d be surprised if we didn’t sign anyone, Jürgen knows he needs to fill in the gaps, he knows where we are weakest and should address those issues, I’m happy we are quiet atm, it means that we are probing the market and keeping under the media radar,

      Jürgen will know what is needed and will act accordingly, it’s more to do with what is available and whether they will fit his system.





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      Reply #29: Jul 30, 2020 09:12:49 pm
      Looks like Swansea want Brewster on loan again next season and the lad seems keen
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      Reply #30: Jul 30, 2020 10:55:40 pm
      Looks like Swansea want Brewster on loan again next season and the lad seems keen

      Might be the right option. A full season in the Championship starting every game in a team you would expect will get promotion next season.

      Then he will return to us with lots of experience ready for first team action.
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      Reply #31: Jul 30, 2020 11:25:26 pm
      Might be the right option. A full season in the Championship starting every game in a team you would expect will get promotion next season.

      Then he will return to us with lots of experience ready for first team action.
      I hope he stays with us.
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      Reply #32: Jul 30, 2020 11:28:46 pm

      I'd be happy with that too mate but I'd like to see Rhian play week in week out next season which he won't here unless Jürgen starts rotating our front three regularly.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #33: Jul 31, 2020 02:47:16 am
      I think that will be a good move for all parties.  He shows promise but our front 3 are world class the bench mark is high very high.  A full season will only do him a world of good.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #34: Jul 31, 2020 08:29:45 am
      Might be the right option. A full season in the Championship starting every game in a team you would expect will get promotion next season.

      Then he will return to us with lots of experience ready for first team action.

      I disagree, I think he needs games with us, if he's not ready to make the step up to Prem level now then he never will be, unless he's an incredibly late bloomer.
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      Reply #35: Jul 31, 2020 08:49:23 am
      I disagree, I think he needs games with us, if he's not ready to make the step up to Prem level now then he never will be, unless he's an incredibly late bloomer.

      Incredibly late bloomer? He just turned 20 mate! It's tricky as while I want to see him here ahead of Origi next season I also think he is a much better player and should be starting games which he won't with us. Unless Jürgen has a plan for him.
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      Reply #36: Jul 31, 2020 09:16:00 am
      Incredibly late bloomer? He just turned 20 mate! It's tricky as while I want to see him here ahead of Origi next season I also think he is a much better player and should be starting games which he won't with us. Unless Jürgen has a plan for him.

      Yes at 20 I'd expect a good forward to start playing plenty of games, at the highest level. The way he has been playing for Swansea I see no reason why we couldn't rotate him into the team in a lot of matches with him either starting or coming in off the bench, we have to stop relying so much on just playing Mane, Bobby and Salah every match, they need competition and rest plus the opposition defenders need other players to worry about.
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      Reply #37: Jul 31, 2020 11:18:36 am

      Same.

      He'll be assessed in pre-season, his stats examined etc and go from there I'd reckon.
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      Reply #38: Jul 31, 2020 01:22:26 pm
      I said we'll challenge.

      I also said I don't think we'll get 99 points again.

      We're still capable of getting over 90, but other teams are going to be stronger next year., so it stands to reason we probably won't get as many points.

      In fact, I think between 90 and 95 points will win the league next season.

      I understood your point from the 1st moment but I think we will challenge for the title again because now we know how to do it.
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      Reply #39: Jul 31, 2020 02:14:31 pm
      I understood your point from the 1st moment but I think we will challenge for the title again because now we know how to do it.

      Its also a lot less pressure on the players now, they now have that winning feeling and are comfortable with it.
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      Reply #40: Jul 31, 2020 04:04:31 pm
      I'd be happy with that too mate but I'd like to see Rhian play week in week out next season which he won't here unless Jürgen starts rotating our front three regularly.

      I get your point about him needing games, but two things make me think he will be staying (so long as preseason doesn't go against him)

      1. We're playing at least 50 games again this coming season (and with any success more like 60). Jürgen could regularly rotate four players in three starting spots and every one of the four would get at least 45 starts along with sub appearances (not saying that is how Jürgen would do it, but a young player can still get more than enough game action and the other three still be playing nearly all the time). We've all talked about the vulnerability of the team to one of the front three being injured. It is just a good thing if that load can be shared - although of course it has to be shared among players of similar ability. Divock, Minamino, Ox and Shaq have not made that kind of impression to be considered as a viable fourth, it's true, but Rhian.....

      2. Rhian COULD be the player to allow Jürgen to do that. Don't forgot the way Jürgen kept him close by during both Champions League runs. Even when he had the long-term injury, Jürgen insisted he do his rehab at Melwood. You always saw him around the first team. He's in the changing room dancing with the boys after Barcelona and was on subs bench. Jürgen kept commenting about how good he was. This past preseason he was making a very good impression and I think took another knock. Yes, they sent him on loan in January for match time but unlike many of our players who get loaned out, he really seized the opportunity. The quality of his goals was exceptional.

      It's easy to keep saying with a young player that he's "one for the future" and then keep pushing back the time when he gets a real opportunity with the first team. You look at the best players worldwide and they typically were first team regulars by ages 18-21. They didn't all come up with poor teams where there was nobody else good i front of them. As with every young player, there comes a time when a manager has to give him the opportunity to show in a game that he reallly belongs. This should be Rhian Brewster's opportunity to show that.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #41: Jul 31, 2020 05:37:23 pm
      Interesting debate and some great points made about strengthening at left back and centre back backup options which I agree with.

      What I will add though is that with the minutes Mane Salah and Firmino play it would be some achievement if neither of them 3 was to pick up any serious injury for the 3rd season running. I know they had a few small injury’s here and there like Bobby before Madrid and Salah in Kiev but all 3 have had no major injuries in that time. For that reason it’s time to bring in another forward who’s better and more versatile than Origi just incase one does get injured. Not only will this help us retain the title but it will help us have a better run in the cups when Klopp rotates

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