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      Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season

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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #125: Sep 19, 2020 07:49:15 pm
      Now we're settled for this new campaign.
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      Reply #126: Sep 19, 2020 10:45:20 pm
      Now we're settled for this new campaign.

      Just have to see about outgoings before Jürgen decides on the final 25. With the two additions, we're one over the non homegrown limit so I'm guessing at least one of Grujic, Shaqiri or Origi will have to depart.
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      Reply #127: Sep 20, 2020 09:54:24 am
      Just have to see about outgoings before Jürgen decides on the final 25. With the two additions, we're one over the non homegrown limit so I'm guessing at least one of Grujic, Shaqiri or Origi will have to depart.


      I honestly think that Grujic will be offloaded because we are over the number of midfielders. We have Jordan, Fab, Gini, AOC, Keita, Milner, Jones so we're covered there.

      I would keep Shaqiri and Brewster (it won't happen with the youngster) and sell Origi but it will be the other way round.
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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #128: Sep 20, 2020 11:38:29 am
      Rumours on twitter that the ox maybe heading to wolves 😮
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      Reply #129: Sep 20, 2020 04:26:53 pm
      Rumours on twitter that the ox maybe heading to wolves 😮

      Pearce rubbishes this one today.

      I notice also that Klopp, in talking about the center back situation, mentions Koumetio in context of making the bench if he hadn't had a knock as well. Sounds he's set in the first team squad at just 17/18.

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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #130: Sep 23, 2020 10:46:43 am
      When we didn't sign WErner i think most of us assumed there wasn't the money in the bank and the club were waiting to see how Covid would continue to affect things long-term but obviously we then went and signed Jota for pretty much the same money. I like the Jota signing I really do but i have been scratching my head wondering why we didn't just go after Werner given he was/is (maybe he wasn't!) a Klopp favourite. Now he might have looked at Chelsea and figured he would get more minutes there but i get the impression we didn't go for him. Just seems weird to me, i think he's made a good start for them and whilst i like the Jota signing i would have much preferred Werner.

      Either way i'm happy with the squad though.
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      Reply #131: Sep 23, 2020 10:50:10 am
      When we didn't sign WErner i think most of us assumed there wasn't the money in the bank and the club were waiting to see how Covid would continue to affect things long-term but obviously we then went and signed Jota for pretty much the same money. I like the Jota signing I really do but i have been scratching my head wondering why we didn't just go after Werner given he was/is (maybe he wasn't!) a Klopp favourite. Now he might have looked at Chelsea and figured he would get more minutes there but i get the impression we didn't go for him. Just seems weird to me, i think he's made a good start for them and whilst i like the Jota signing i would have much preferred Werner.

      Either way i'm happy with the squad though.

      I'm not so sure about Werner, I was really not that impressed with him against us, he's a fast little bugger, but that seems to be about it, well apart from having learnt the art of diving or at least going down with minimal contact. I was so pissed off when we missed out on him but I'm now slightly unsure how firm our interest was.
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      Reply #132: Sep 23, 2020 11:01:14 am
      I'm not so sure about Werner, I was really not that impressed with him against us, he's a fast little bugger, but that seems to be about it, well apart from having learnt the art of diving or at least going down with minimal contact. I was so pissed off when we missed out on him but I'm now slightly unsure how firm our interest was.

      I really like him, dangerous player, ridiculously quick and poses a goal threat. Hasn't scored yet but has won them 2 penno's. Would have been a very good understudy for all three of our front positions. Having said that, i think Jota will do well as well but I would have been happier with Timo.
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      Reply #133: Sep 23, 2020 03:38:37 pm
      When we didn't sign WErner i think most of us assumed there wasn't the money in the bank and the club were waiting to see how Covid would continue to affect things long-term but obviously we then went and signed Jota for pretty much the same money. I like the Jota signing I really do but i have been scratching my head wondering why we didn't just go after Werner given he was/is (maybe he wasn't!) a Klopp favourite. Now he might have looked at Chelsea and figured he would get more minutes there but i get the impression we didn't go for him. Just seems weird to me, i think he's made a good start for them and whilst i like the Jota signing i would have much preferred Werner.

      Either way i'm happy with the squad though.
      Get what you’re saying mate but while the fees are similar on the surface there is a considerable difference to how the deals would have been structured. From what we know Leipzig were looking for the money up front as would have been required in a release clause situation whereas with Jota we have staggered payments. Around £5m up front while we received around £9/10m up front for Hoever. This would have had a huge influence given the economic situation, helping with cash flow etc.

      Moreover I imagine there’s a huge difference in the wages. Werner may well have been first choice and I would also have preferred him over Jota initially but certainly the deals are not comparable. As it is we have Jota and I’ve every faith he’ll prove to be yet another fantastic signing.
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      Reply #134: Sep 23, 2020 05:23:24 pm
      Get what you’re saying mate but while the fees are similar on the surface there is a considerable difference to how the deals would have been structured. From what we know Leipzig were looking for the money up front as would have been required in a release clause situation whereas with Jota we have staggered payments. Around £5m up front while we received around £9/10m up front for Hoever. This would have had a huge influence given the economic situation, helping with cash flow etc.

      Moreover I imagine there’s a huge difference in the wages. Werner may well have been first choice and I would also have preferred him over Jota initially but certainly the deals are not comparable. As it is we have Jota and I’ve every faith he’ll prove to be yet another fantastic signing.

      All valid points mate and you are probably right. I do like Werner though, I knwo Fab got the better of him but he was ploughing a lone furrough with Chelsea's chicken sh*t bus parking at the weekend. I f we had him i'd be a lot less worried about losing one of our front 3 for an extended period of time. Let's see how Jota does, he's a good player with potential to get better, i daresay we will see him tomorrow night in the league cup

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      Re: Liverpool Squad for 2020-21 Season
      Reply #135: Oct 03, 2020 03:18:06 pm
      We could use another centre-half couldn't we? I wonder if Brewster going out might have given Klopp the go ahead to get another CB in? Evidently we were interested in Ben White in the summer and Neverton have just signed the young lad Godfrey from Norwich. I think a youngish CB on the rise would be a good purchase if we can get it done.

      We've got Gomez (fair share of injuries), Matip (always bloody injured) and VVD (thank fook he doesn't get injured) and Fab as our options. The lads will be playing two games a week the moment the Champ League kicks in so it's risky not to get one. Even if they went for a Klavan type signing i'd be happy with that. None of the kids are ready to step up.
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      Reply #136: Oct 03, 2020 03:42:38 pm
      Although Rhys Williams didn’t look out of place v the Arse Monday night did he.
      Don’t think he’s a million miles away. My motm actually.
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      Reply #137: Oct 03, 2020 04:24:42 pm
      Although Rhys Williams didn’t look out of place v the Arse Monday night did he.
      Don’t think he’s a million miles away. My motm actually.

      I think you meant Thursday dude? The young-ins look alright from time to time in the League Cup but week in week out in the Prem is a different matter. Particularly at centre-half, you don't see many breaking through at 18-19. 
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      Reply #138: Oct 03, 2020 07:17:57 pm
      I think you meant Thursday dude? The young-ins look alright from time to time in the League Cup but week in week out in the Prem is a different matter. Particularly at centre-half, you don't see many breaking through at 18-19.

      Klopp has been pretty direct in saying he doesn't expect to bring anyone else in. I get what you are saying, especially with Matip seemingly being star-crossed, but it doesn't seem like he intends to make another purchase in this window.

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      Reply #139: Oct 03, 2020 09:08:10 pm
      I think you meant Thursday dude? The young-ins look alright from time to time in the League Cup but week in week out in the Prem is a different matter. Particularly at centre-half, you don't see many breaking through at 18-19. 
      Well corrected Scott. Not sure how I came up with Monday, but hey ho. Thought Rhys had a solid performance, but you’re right long term
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      Reply #140: Oct 13, 2020 08:17:33 pm
      Didn't want to start a new thread just for that but I have a question that I would be curious to know what is the forum's answer to it:

      If everybody is healthy, what is your ''go to'' CB pairing?

      I personally feel a bit more confident and relaxed when its VVD + Matip. I just feel like Matip is, overall, more commanding in the air, his first couple of strides when out of position and wanting to catch up are superior to Gomez's (which is important because both like to carry the ball and naturally sometime get caught in an advanced position). The understanding between big Joel and VVD also seem a notch superior (to me) than the one between Joe and VVD.

      I still love Joe obviously but healthy Matip is my choice over him. I might be right or wrong, just curious to read the opinion of others on that matter.
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      Reply #141: Oct 15, 2020 11:45:41 am
      Didn't want to start a new thread just for that but I have a question that I would be curious to know what is the forum's answer to it:

      If everybody is healthy, what is your ''go to'' CB pairing?

      I personally feel a bit more confident and relaxed when its VVD + Matip. I just feel like Matip is, overall, more commanding in the air, his first couple of strides when out of position and wanting to catch up are superior to Gomez's (which is important because both like to carry the ball and naturally sometime get caught in an advanced position). The understanding between big Joel and VVD also seem a notch superior (to me) than the one between Joe and VVD.

      I still love Joe obviously but healthy Matip is my choice over him. I might be right or wrong, just curious to read the opinion of others on that matter.

      At the moment Matip & VVD.
      If Gomez gets in form then he goes in beside Virgil.
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      Reply #142: Oct 15, 2020 11:49:34 am
      At the moment Matip & VVD.
      If Gomez gets in form then he goes in beside Virgil.

      Agree.

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      Reply #143: Oct 17, 2020 07:20:04 pm
      Hypothetically

      If VVD is gone for the season, who comes in if we lose another, wjo is now effectively our 4th centre half now?
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      Reply #144: Oct 17, 2020 07:26:42 pm
      Hypothetically

      If VVD is gone for the season, who comes in if we lose another, wjo is now effectively our 4th centre half now?

      Fabinho has to be be sacrificed from midfield... and he can do a job, but his role in the middle is so important in my opinion. When people were saying we didn’t need a new CB during the window because we have Fabinho... and I hated that argument... nobody considered it would be Virgil that would be out.
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      Reply #145: Oct 17, 2020 07:29:35 pm
      Fabinho has to be be sacrificed from midfield... and he can do a job, but his role in the middle is so important in my opinion. When people were saying we didn’t need a new CB during the window because we have Fabinho... and I hated that argument... nobody considered it would be Virgil that would be out.

      Hes the 3rd choice...if he Joe or Matip go who comes in be it the starting team or the bench? Is Philips and Williams here or gone on loan? I think Williams looked decent in the league cup
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      Reply #146: Oct 17, 2020 07:32:03 pm
      Hes the 3rd choice...if he Joe or Matip go who comes in be it the starting team or the bench? Is Philips and Williams here or gone on loan? I think Williams looked decent in the league cup
      In that case we are fu**ed, Williams looked great next to Virgil, but as soon as he was taken off and replaced by Fabinho he panicked not having Virgil next to him.

      Virgil is literally the biggest loss we could have faced... gotta pray Matip and Gomez stay fit and find form.
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      Reply #147: Oct 17, 2020 08:28:23 pm
      More than likely we might have to use Nat Philips if we haven't loaned him out again
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      Reply #148: Oct 17, 2020 09:26:56 pm
      I for one wont be surprised if whats gone on today gels the squad even more and that we become even more focused on our targets.

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      Reply #149: Oct 17, 2020 09:52:33 pm
      More than likely we might have to use Nat Philips if we haven't loaned him out again

      Nat Phillips is still in the squad. He was in the club's training video from Thursday.

      Played a full season in Bundesliga 2 last year so that's worthwhile experience, but....man. Virgil is such a big loss.  >:(

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