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      Jamal Lewis - Norwich City

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      Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Aug 04, 2020 10:24:30 pm
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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #1: Aug 04, 2020 10:45:36 pm

      Arguably the biggest miss in our team when not available. Not saying he's our best player or anything just that his absence impacts the rhythm and balance of the team so badly.

      I dont know if this kid is good enough........but plenty on here said that about our no.26 3yrs ago......
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      Reply #2: Aug 04, 2020 10:57:01 pm
      I'd definitely be happy with this. No guarantees with any player, but I'll feel better knowing we have some cover for Robbo.

      Recruiting for that role is probably a hard sell, but if he wants to come and we can get him fir £10m, that's good business.
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      Reply #3: Aug 05, 2020 12:04:49 am
      I'd definitely be happy with this. No guarantees with any player, but I'll feel better knowing we have some cover for Robbo.

      Recruiting for that role is probably a hard sell, but if he wants to come and we can get him fir £10m, that's good business.

      He's LB and/or CB isn't he or was that some other player?
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      Reply #4: Aug 05, 2020 12:23:28 am
      He's LB and/or CB isn't he or was that some other player?

      Mainly a lb but has played further forward
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      Reply #5: Aug 05, 2020 01:15:41 am
      10 mill...that's more then Andy cost!!
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      Reply #6: Aug 05, 2020 01:23:59 am
      Never impressed whenever the few times I saw him play but for 10m worth a punt.
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      Reply #7: Aug 05, 2020 02:28:33 am
      He's LB and/or CB isn't he or was that some other player?

       I only remember seeing him play as a FB. At 5'10 I doubt he played CB. Then again Gini did once for us. So.....

      Decent player from what I've seen this year
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      Reply #8: Aug 05, 2020 02:52:25 am
      10 mill...that's more then Andy cost!!

      Right?!

      Crazy to think we’d have to spend more for his backup.

      It’s a position of need so can see the one having legs, especially with Larouci going the other way?
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      Reply #9: Aug 05, 2020 09:45:52 am
      I would prefer Lloyd Kelly, but there is definitely a player in Lewis he has speed and a decent cross.
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      Reply #10: Aug 05, 2020 09:55:30 am
      I would prefer Lloyd Kelly, but there is definitely a player in Lewis he has speed and a decent cross.

      Ah yes, it's Lloyd Kelly I was thinking of as LB and CB, surely he would make more sense, cover for two positions by one player, he can't be that expensive can he?
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      Reply #11: Aug 05, 2020 10:03:41 am
      This would be pretty astute if we get it done. Providing Lewis is interested in being a squad player - he'll know he can't displace Robbo anytime soon - then it's a good move. We'd do well to pull the trigger on it asap and not wait till Chilwell moves (if he does) and theres more interest in Lewis.
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      Reply #12: Aug 05, 2020 10:04:55 am
      Ah yes, it's Lloyd Kelly I was thinking of as LB and CB, surely he would make more sense, cover for two positions by one player, he can't be that expensive can he?

      I can't see Bournemouth letting him go this Summer with Ake heading to City.

      Probably the reason we are looking at Lewis now.
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      Reply #13: Aug 05, 2020 10:48:32 am
      Got potential this kid but still very raw - lot of sloppy defensive work when I've seen him play but definitely some ability for Klopp and co to work with

      Always going to be a tricky position to get cover for as anyone who comes in knows they won't be playing unless Robbo's got an injury.
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      Reply #14: Aug 05, 2020 11:17:50 am
      Paul Joyce on the scene now saying player needs to understand he'll be playing second fiddle to Andy. Think no matter what left back in the world we signed they would need to understand this haha.

      Big fan of bringing in proper cover for robertson though, Definitely should be priority this window along with another attacker as cover.
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      Reply #15: Aug 05, 2020 11:30:29 am
      Looks a bit lightweight compared to Robbo but I'd imagine he would improve with us.

      Don't know a huge amount about him but after signing Robbo I would have no problems picking up a player from a relegated team if they can see something in him.

      Would he come to be back up though?
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      Reply #16: Aug 05, 2020 11:37:23 am
      Looks a bit lightweight compared to Robbo but I'd imagine he would improve with us.

      Don't know a huge amount about him but after signing Robbo I would have no problems picking up a player from a relegated team if they can see something in him.

      Would he come to be back up though?

      The signing could very spell another Robertson special when you look at the price tag ( basically nothing ) The Best Buy of 2017 and Hull must of been sick to their stomachs of how well he's come on.
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      Reply #17: Aug 05, 2020 11:37:35 am
      Looks a bit lightweight compared to Robbo but I'd imagine he would improve with us.

      Don't know a huge amount about him but after signing Robbo I would have no problems picking up a player from a relegated team if they can see something in him.

      Would he come to be back up though?

      Depends if he backs himself to ultimately challenge Robbo for the starting spot, plus we have to start rotating more than we currently do, it's a miracle we didn't have more injuries than we had last season.
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      Reply #18: Aug 05, 2020 12:00:22 pm
      Ah yes, it's Lloyd Kelly I was thinking of as LB and CB, surely he would make more sense, cover for two positions by one player, he can't be that expensive can he?

      It makes more sense in terms of the numbers, but covering CB suggests he's more defensive minded whereas an attacking LB makes more sense with our style perhaps?

      I'm not sure there's too many players better choice than Lewis ot Kelly in terms of age, availability, price, experience of the premiership.

      If it were me there's no competition in a choice of a season in the Championship, or playing under Klopp to genuinely challenge for the biggest trophies.

      But then not everyone is the same.

      Even if this transfer doesn't excite people, it does make a hell of a lot of sense and there shouldn't be anything to complain about.
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      Reply #19: Aug 05, 2020 12:01:16 pm
      Not too clued up about him but from what I've read he seems to have a lot of the foundations that will help him fit into our way of playing. Doesn't have to be a world beater or even the finished article yet but as long as he can step into the team when needed without us having to amend our system or tactical approach then I'll be happy.

      Milner is a superb player and a good "left back" but the side seems to lose a bit of rhythm when he's brought in to replace Robbo
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      Reply #20: Aug 05, 2020 01:43:20 pm
      never heard of him...so maybe he will be the biggest name we get :f_wah:
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      Reply #21: Aug 05, 2020 04:26:33 pm
      Looks a bit lightweight compared to Robbo but I'd imagine he would improve with us.

      Don't know a huge amount about him but after signing Robbo I would have no problems picking up a player from a relegated team if they can see something in him.

      Would he come to be back up though?

      Compared to playing in the Championship, probably. I wonder if he can play in midfield or forward at all.
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      Reply #22: Aug 05, 2020 04:35:46 pm
      If he is half decent I would imagine him having more game time than a lot of you think on here.

      Against most teams we have most of the possession therefore his defensive abilities won’t be tested as much and as others have said he can fit into the team naturally left footed and won’t disrupt our balance or rhythm.

      Will be good just to see that we are active in the transfer window as others seem to be.
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      Reply #24: Aug 05, 2020 06:14:27 pm
      Looking at their stats robbo understandably beats him on nearly everything but he's not that far behind, shows potential.

      https://www.premierleague.com/stats/player-comparison
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      Reply #25: Aug 05, 2020 06:28:38 pm
      £10mill + Larouci.
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      Reply #26: Aug 05, 2020 06:48:47 pm
      Well as he plays just down the road from me, I asked a few of my mates who all support the "Budgies" and asked them.
      General opinion is he is good but needs fine tuning which I am sure Jürgen can do.

      I can remember when Robertson first came to us and thought who is he and if I remember correctly took some time to get a regular place in the first team, so perhaps Lewis is one for the future ?
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      Reply #27: Aug 05, 2020 07:27:44 pm
      If he is willing to fight, I would welcome him but do not want any money-suckers.

      It think we need a back-up for Robertson so if Lewis wants to improve, I'm ok with it.

      He will be more money then Robbo :D
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      Reply #28: Aug 05, 2020 07:44:05 pm
      Good move and a player Jürgen and the coaches can improve. What’s not to like?
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      Reply #29: Aug 05, 2020 08:40:01 pm
      Exciting deal if it happens. Lots of potential and finally some proper cover for Robbo. This and another CB would probably be the only two deals we can be sure will happen.
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      Reply #30: Aug 05, 2020 10:26:31 pm
      For me a LB cover and competition is one of the key areas where we can strengthen so this seems like a good move for me.

      As for the player I like what I've seen of him but it's not a huge amount to be honest.
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      Reply #31: Aug 06, 2020 01:55:13 am
      At least we all on the same wavelength as the Gaffer. We have been saying for months that we need good cover for Andy. First thing the Boss does is look for Andy cover!



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      Reply #32: Aug 06, 2020 04:13:19 pm
      The fact that this has been discussed publicly but hasn't happened within 24-48 hours later makes me think it won't.

      The club usually only lets the info out when it is practically a done deal.
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      Reply #33: Aug 06, 2020 04:52:03 pm
      The fact that this has been discussed publicly but hasn't happened within 24-48 hours later makes me think it won't.

      The club usually only lets the info out when it is practically a done deal.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/LFCTransferRoom/status/1291397688223838208


      Make of it what you will.
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      Reply #34: Aug 06, 2020 05:07:00 pm
      Can 100% see this happening - it’s the perfect signing if you ask me.

      Klopp and the team know exactly what they’re doing
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      Reply #35: Aug 06, 2020 05:10:56 pm
      Official bid submitted breaking now.

      Can see a deal happening over the next 24 hours.
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      Reply #36: Aug 06, 2020 05:37:19 pm
      Think the sell on clause will make Norwich accept the bid even tho their valuation is 20 million  they must recognise the potential gain from the sell on clause for example us being able to sell on Solanke for 20 million and Ibe for 15 million with both doing nothing in their LFC careers
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      Reply #37: Aug 06, 2020 06:18:14 pm
      Think the sell on clause will make Norwich accept the bid even tho their valuation is 20 million  they must recognise the potential gain from the sell on clause for example us being able to sell on Solanke for 20 million and Ibe for 15 million with both doing nothing in their LFC careers

      Agreed, and given the value Jürgen adds to players they'd be stupid not to.
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      Reply #38: Aug 06, 2020 06:19:57 pm
      Bid rejected.
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      Reply #39: Aug 06, 2020 06:20:09 pm
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      Reply #41: Aug 06, 2020 07:38:00 pm
      £10m is a bit cheeky if you ask me

      £15 or even £20 million I reckon will do it and that will still prove to be a bargain When Jürgen works his magic
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      Reply #42: Aug 06, 2020 08:47:34 pm
      Don’t really care either way if it’s who Jürgen wants that’s fine by me and it’s not my money but 20m for a relegated LB that’s going to see mostly seat time behind Robbo? That sure doesn’t seem like a Pandemic adjusted price.
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      Reply #43: Aug 06, 2020 08:55:22 pm
      £15 or even £20 million I reckon will do it and that will still prove to be a bargain When Jürgen works his magic

      Yeah I can see it being between 15 and 20 which for a young player with significant prem experience is pretty bloody good!
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      Reply #44: Aug 06, 2020 09:19:15 pm
      Hes got a good engine bombing up and down which is good for a team like us. His crossing and decision making not up to the level of Robbo though. Not yet anyway but he has potential no doubt.
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      Reply #45: Aug 06, 2020 10:37:56 pm
      Hes got a good engine bombing up and down which is good for a team like us. His crossing and decision making not up to the level of Robbo though. Not yet anyway but he has potential no doubt.

      Up the bid to £15m but no sell on clause, still a good deal
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      Reply #46: Aug 06, 2020 10:50:38 pm
      15m will do it think this will happen quite quickly now
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      Reply #47: Aug 07, 2020 12:22:56 pm

      More publicity than Jürgen and Co. typically like to see. The articles keep mentioning Lewis has the same agency as Trent and Robbo. No doubt in my mind where the  publicity is coming from.....

      No problem with him coming in if it is who the manager wants of course. But I do not like how much influence agents have in transfers. Far too many clubs have their personnel policy driven by agents rather than their own management. Jürgen would never allow this at Liverpool and I wonder his reaction to this back and forth being publicized now.


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      Reply #48: Aug 07, 2020 12:38:48 pm
      £10m is a bit cheeky if you ask me

      I agree, fir a premier league starting player with potential to improve its preeety miserly. Be surprised if the deal gets done for less than 15 mill
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      Reply #49: Aug 07, 2020 01:10:10 pm
      More publicity than Jürgen and Co. typically like to see. The articles keep mentioning Lewis has the same agency as Trent and Robbo. No doubt in my mind where the  publicity is coming from.....

      No problem with him coming in if it is who the manager wants of course. But I do not like how much influence agents have in transfers. Far too many clubs have their personnel policy driven by agents rather than their own management. Jürgen would never allow this at Liverpool and I wonder his reaction to this back and forth being publicized now.




      It’s no more publicised than any other transfer. The only signing that went completely under the radar was Fabinho.
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      Reply #50: Aug 07, 2020 01:27:54 pm
      The times I've seen him he's lacking a bit defensively  which is slightly concerning for a full back. Are there other full backs (maybe older) happy to be a backup but also fit into what Klopp expects?
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      Reply #51: Aug 07, 2020 02:41:07 pm
      The times I've seen him he's lacking a bit defensively  which is slightly concerning for a full back. Are there other full backs (maybe older) happy to be a backup but also fit into what Klopp expects?

      Yup we're also linked with Olympiacos left back Tsimikas who looks a decent player.
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      Reply #52: Aug 07, 2020 03:38:34 pm
      The fact that this has been discussed publicly but hasn't happened within 24-48 hours later makes me think it won't.

      The club usually only lets the info out when it is practically a done deal.

      We look to sticking with our £10 million valuation, they want double.

      If we're absolutely sold on the player push nearer to £15 million and we'd get him, but looks like we're playing with the Lovren money!!
      « Last Edit: Aug 07, 2020 03:50:53 pm by HUYTON RED »
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      Reply #53: Aug 07, 2020 03:39:58 pm
      Yeah I can see it being between 15 and 20 which for a young player with significant prem experience is pretty bloody good!

      £15 million would be middle ground territory, they seem to be holding out for 20.
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      Reply #54: Aug 07, 2020 03:49:37 pm
      The times I've seen him he's lacking a bit defensively  which is slightly concerning for a full back. Are there other full backs (maybe older) happy to be a backup but also fit into what Klopp expects?

      Same as Trent. Ultimately our fullbacks are more of a midfielder than a defender and with him still being young, there’s plenty of time for him to develop the defensive side of his game.
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      Reply #55: Aug 07, 2020 05:19:14 pm
      If he’s our first choice surely we can push higher we ain’t that skint.
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      Reply #56: Aug 07, 2020 07:40:24 pm
      If he’s our first choice surely we can push higher we ain’t that skint.

      Better speak to our owners
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      Reply #57: Aug 07, 2020 08:38:34 pm
      If he’s our first choice surely we can push higher we ain’t that skint.


      We're not skint, it's the owners choice here over the whole furlough situation and what would be perceived as obscene overspending during this time etc.
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      Reply #58: Aug 08, 2020 01:14:57 am
      We're not skint, it's the owners choice here over the whole furlough situation and what would be perceived as obscene overspending during this time etc.

      Yeah but we’re talking to 15m possibly that isn’t obscene
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      Reply #59: Aug 08, 2020 10:33:10 am
      Yeah but we’re talking to 15m possibly that isn’t obscene

      If we really can't scrape together an extra 5 or even £10m then we really are fu**ed!
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      Reply #60: Aug 09, 2020 02:33:53 pm
      Seems like it wont be happening. We moved on to Tsimikas according to the reliable guys on Twitter (Pearce, Reddy, Joyce, etc)
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      Reply #61: Aug 09, 2020 02:42:54 pm
      If we really can't scrape together an extra 5 or even £10m then we really are fu**ed!

      If we're self sufficient, then we're playing poker with the Lovren cash!
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      Reply #62: Aug 09, 2020 02:43:52 pm
      Seems like it wont be happening. We moved on to Tsimikas according to the reliable guys on Twitter (Pearce, Reddy, Joyce, etc)

      Or it's being used as a way for Norwich to lower the price.
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      Reply #63: Aug 09, 2020 02:45:11 pm
      Yeah but we’re talking to 15m possibly that isn’t obscene

      I never mentiomed this deal though, this is a deal trying to be done with money we got back from Dejan.
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      Reply #64: Aug 09, 2020 04:25:54 pm
      Or it's being used as a way for Norwich to lower the price.
      It might be but I am hoping it is not. I prefer we send a clear message that we will not be bullied into paying more money than we think is reasonable. We want your player for this sum of money and we are willing to negotiate within a certain price range that we think is fit for what we are getting. Beyond that, you can keep him, we've got a plan B that we'll gladly go to.

      Sure this won't necessarily work if you are negotiating an upcoming superstar like Havertz or Werner bc all the big fishes are lining up with bags of money ready to replace you and its also kind of a unique product so, fair enough, they can command an outrageaous fee (seller's market), but it should send a clear enough message to smaller clubs that have a player that not many teams are after but that we identified as one of our targets in a situation where we have a plan B(and probably a C too) and that are now trying to make us pay the LFC tax.

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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #65: Aug 09, 2020 08:48:38 pm
      It might be but I am hoping it is not. I prefer we send a clear message that we will not be bullied into paying more money than we think is reasonable. We want your player for this sum of money and we are willing to negotiate within a certain price range that we think is fit for what we are getting. Beyond that, you can keep him, we've got a plan B that we'll gladly go to.

      Sure this won't necessarily work if you are negotiating an upcoming superstar like Havertz or Werner bc all the big fishes are lining up with bags of money ready to replace you and its also kind of a unique product so, fair enough, they can command an outrageaous fee (seller's market), but it should send a clear enough message to smaller clubs that have a player that not many teams are after but that we identified as one of our targets in a situation where we have a plan B(and probably a C too) and that are now trying to make us pay the LFC tax.



      Sounds like Lewis was the plan B and we wanted the Greek lad all along. Or at least that’s what we’ve told him. Works for me.
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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #66: Aug 09, 2020 10:28:28 pm
      Sounds like Lewis was the plan B and we wanted the Greek lad all along. Or at least that’s what we’ve told him. Works for me.

      Yeah that's how it usually works. You bid for your second target before your first one 😅
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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #67: Aug 09, 2020 10:35:55 pm
      Sounds like Lewis was the plan B and we wanted the Greek lad all along. Or at least that’s what we’ve told him. Works for me.

      Haha I think jamal was 1st choice. We only have the lovren money to use as its clear we need to sell to buy.

      Offering the decent sell on clause was a good idea but obviously it became clear the lovren money wouldn't get it done we moved on to 2nd on the list.

      Better that we did not get bogged down and bottom line is if Jürgen wasn't happy with him he wouldn't be coming here.
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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #68: Aug 09, 2020 10:37:24 pm
      Sounds like Lewis was the plan B and we wanted the Greek lad all along. Or at least that’s what we’ve told him. Works for me.

      Or having thought on the way Klopp works, Lewis along with the Greek lad will be a number of options we're looking at.
      I listened to Klopp speaking on the club doc Golden Sky about the season just gone around the goalie situation when we signed Adrian. It was Achterberg who gave him a number of options who'd make a good second keeper.
      Always remember Salah was an option B from Edwards after Klopp couldn't get Julian Brandt.
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      Re: Jamal Lewis - Norwich City
      Reply #69: Aug 09, 2020 11:39:02 pm
      Haha I think jamal was 1st choice. We only have the lovren money to use as its clear we need to sell to buy.

      Offering the decent sell on clause was a good idea but obviously it became clear the lovren money wouldn't get it done we moved on to 2nd on the list.

      Better that we did not get bogged down and bottom line is if Jürgen wasn't happy with him he wouldn't be coming here.
      Exactly. Very rarely is a player unique enough to justify getting bullied by the other club (Van Dijk and Alisson being good examples of players unique enough and transformational enough for us to break during negotiations). Jamal Lewis seems like a promising player that fits the mold of players Klopp likes to work with and more importantly fits within the parameters of our transfer strategy. However, he's not the only relatively young LB that fits those parameters so unless the drop in quality between him and the second choice is very steep then there's no reason for us to let Norwich (or any other team) pocket an extra 10M$ of our money because the name is Liverpool FC.

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