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      Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)

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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #25: Aug 09, 2020 04:01:09 pm
      F**k me, there’s some negative people on here. Just won the league etc. If you can’t trust Klopp and his team NOW you never bloody will. They’ve identified the choice of two back up LB’S, and look’s like they’re getting there man. Where did we get Robertson from and for how much?.I like many was a bit uninspired by it, but it’s probably the signing that made me trust Edwards the most. Right behind them I am.

      Dont get confused.. Where has anyone said they dont trust the manager?

      But dont think for a second the manager hasnt identified players (Werner the latest) that he hasnt been backed on

      He is simply that good he can turn most players into better ones

      He is that good

      But did you really think that on the back of winning what we have over the last two years that we wouldnt have been in a position to add? That the best time to strengthen is from a position of strength?

      I 100% trust the manager. I dont care at all for the owners

      If others do, sound, no issue. But you can in return let me not really like them and it not really bother you surely
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #26: Aug 09, 2020 04:03:26 pm
      Super player, very sad he is leaving. Well done to Liverpool for having the brains to pick him up. Would have been totally wasted at a smaller club. Very talented and very hard working. The whole package.
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      Reply #27: Aug 09, 2020 04:09:09 pm
      I understand if you don’t like them I really do mate everyone has an opinion.But having a go in this current climate is not productive. I like the fact we are as successful as we are doing it on a financially stable footing. We are owned by business men not rich oil men. That’s what makes are achievements all the more special to me. And if we have to be really careful at the moment, I get it. Who knows what’s round the corner.
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #28: Aug 09, 2020 04:18:15 pm
      Never heard of him and I’d be very surprised if many others on here have. No point writing a player off that we know nothing about, never mind before he’s even played a game for us.

      It’s almost as if some expect us to go and pay £30mill for a back up player.

      From what I’ve read about the player, seems like he could be a decent option.
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      Reply #29: Aug 09, 2020 04:20:42 pm
      I wish that I could pronounce his name !
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      Reply #30: Aug 09, 2020 04:23:35 pm
      Would have preferred Lewis but as LB cover this lad looks decent.
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #31: Aug 09, 2020 04:26:42 pm
      I wish that I could pronounce his name !

      Tze-mikas
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #32: Aug 09, 2020 04:27:36 pm
      He has his work cut out but if he has a winning mentality, he will push himself to improve.

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      Reply #33: Aug 09, 2020 04:47:43 pm
      Absolutely not

      He was available for a buy out clause

      The price was set. Chelsea didn't or couldn't outbid us

      but they could offer higher wages couldn't they, which is exactly what they did, he's on £200k per week I think which would have seriously buggered up our wage structure as all the players would then want a pay rise and with good justification as well.
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      Reply #34: Aug 09, 2020 04:50:02 pm

      and how do you pronounce Tze ;-)
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      Reply #35: Aug 09, 2020 04:51:06 pm
      He has his work cut out but if he has a winning mentality, he will push himself to improve.



      I think he'll get a decent number of games as will young Neco, we need to start rotating the Full backs a bit more than we have done to keep them fresh
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #36: Aug 09, 2020 04:53:15 pm
      but they could offer higher wages couldn't they, which is exactly what they did, he's on £200k per week I think which would have seriously buggered up our wage structure as all the players would then want a pay rise and with good justification as well.

      You can add another £70k on top of that which would have made him our highest paid player.

      We are a club that players want to play at for reasons other than financial only.

      Chelsea are just a mercenary club.
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #37: Aug 09, 2020 04:57:15 pm
      According to reports we were trying to squeeze down the fee, but then the chavs with their infinite money came in and not only triggered the release clause instantly but also offered higher wages than we would have paid him, so for Werner and Leipzig it was a no-brainer.  We got gazumped and sorry to break it to you but we simply do not have the money to compete with PSG, Chelsea and City etc for a player who would effectively be a squad player for us, that sucks but its just how it is, you need to find a way to deal with it.

      Actually

      We tried to pay the 50m over the length of the contract

      Chelsea offered it in one lump sum

      The wages are irrelevant
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      Reply #38: Aug 09, 2020 04:58:31 pm
      Agree with that for the most part

      However we dont know if he would have taken less to move here as he really seemed to want the move

      We didn't activate the fee so we couldnt sit him down

      He may well have taken less to join us. We will never know

      Oh for heaven's sake, he might have wanted to play for Jürgen, which player doesn't, but if we were offering £125k per week for a spot in our squad and the chavs £270k with a much better chance of first team action then he'd have to be related to you if he chose us! ;-)
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #39: Aug 09, 2020 04:59:52 pm
      Actually

      We tried to pay the 50m over the length of the contract

      Chelsea offered it in one lump sum

      The wages are irrelevant

      How are the wages irrelevant?? Ultimately the player chooses where he wants to go, BTW the difference between £125k and £270k per week over 5 years is quite a bit of dosh, plus you need to factor in all the other wage increases you'd be forced to make as well.
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #40: Aug 09, 2020 05:00:56 pm
      Nothing in bringing a back up left back

      We have though pulled out of other players we had lined up because we now apparently can't afford - Champions of england, champions of europe and champions of the world, but apparently cant spend anything of note unless we sell. That's not great in my opinion
      Hopefully we can find back ups for those positions too for next to nothing as well

      Yeah.. he really liked Werner too but he was too expensive

      So hes only allowed to like bargains he can work miracles on it seems


       :mad: - financially viable - ie the club aren’t going to spend £54mil plus £15mil agent fees plus £15mil signing on fee plus £280k a week wages on a player who doesn’t improve the first 11.

      We are a club that runs self sufficient, our first 11 is one of the best in Europe and we are now strengthening the bench and people starting to cry because he is only £10mil
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #41: Aug 09, 2020 05:14:41 pm
      I wish that I could pronounce his name !

      Call him kostas
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      Reply #42: Aug 09, 2020 05:16:08 pm

       :mad: - financially viable - ie the club aren’t going to spend £54mil plus £15mil agent fees plus £15mil signing on fee plus £280k a week wages on a player who doesn’t improve the first 11.

      We are a club that runs self sufficient, our first 11 is one of the best in Europe and we are now strengthening the bench and people starting to cry because he is only £10mil

      Why arent the club going to spend that if it makes us stronger?

      If you stand still it makes it easier for the rest to catch you

      So what happens if one of our world class forwards get a long term injury?
      We have been incredibly lucky with injuries over the last 2 years

      Yes we are self sufficient, but are you telling me our self sufficiency doesnt stretch beyond 67m net over 5 years? Really?
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      Reply #43: Aug 09, 2020 05:17:55 pm
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      Reply #44: Aug 09, 2020 05:22:23 pm
      Why arent the club going to spend that if it makes us stronger?

      If you stand still it makes it easier for the rest to catch you

      So what happens if one of our world class forwards get a long term injury?
      We have been incredibly lucky with injuries over the last 2 years

      Yes we are self sufficient, but are you telling me our self sufficiency doesnt stretch beyond 67m net over 5 years? Really?

      Are the club not looking to spend money on bringing in a left back to support Robbo ?

      Why will we stand still ? A club can move forward without signing players.

      If one of them gets an injury then the manager will work around that - we can’t have a £80mil player plus wages sat on the bench in case of injury

      We have made a few losses in a number of years over the past 5 years - our wage bill has increased significantly and it’s now at £310mil - we made £530mil and we have outgoings of £500mil

      Why are people that bothered about our net spend ? Surely it’s a good thing that the club have managed to shift so much sh*t , bring in world class players and not have to rely on owners own money or debt
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #45: Aug 09, 2020 05:36:49 pm
      You guys miss the point. How often has Klopp and his staff been wrong on these guys? Andy Robertson was cheap as hell. Harvey Elliot looks to have a ton of skill and could play a role for us. How many of yall knew who he was before we signed him Klopp and his staff identify and develop players as good as anyone. If Klopp wants this kid thats good enough for me. Save that money for a established player down the road.

      Excited to get a LB to cover LB
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #46: Aug 09, 2020 05:38:17 pm
      Like many on here I never heard of this lad, never seen him play but like I always say....i trust Jürgen and his team.
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      Reply #47: Aug 09, 2020 06:11:36 pm
      Never heard of this lad, but I'm sure we've done our homework on him.

      It's a question in the squad answered for a reasonable fee. Hoping to see him leaning on something by Friday.
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #48: Aug 09, 2020 06:38:25 pm
      Don't care how we got here but we needed cover for Robbo and we now have it, what's not to like?
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      Re: Kostas Tsimikas (Olympiakos)
      Reply #49: Aug 09, 2020 07:10:58 pm
      Don't care how we got here but we needed cover for Robbo and we now have it, what's not to like?

      Yep.

      He's a good 'un as well by all accounts.
      Only 24 as well.

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