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      Who's the best? Ronaldo or Messi.

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      Re: Who's the best? Ronaldo or Messi.
      Reply #115: Dec 06, 2021 01:06:29 pm
      When some say not a debate trust me it’s coz he’s at United. It’s unquestionably these two have been the best for the last 10/15 years and those that don’t think this  wear rose tints.

      And I’ve said that Ronaldo is brilliant and yes I’d agree he’s in the top two certainly of the last 10-15 years…
      It’s just he’s second behind Messi

      Nothing to do with rose tinted glasses or that he plays for utd

      If Messi played for utd, I’d still stay it’s Messi as he’s the better player
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      Reply #116: Dec 06, 2021 01:13:09 pm
      When some say not a debate trust me it’s coz he’s at United. It’s unquestionably these two have been the best for the last 10/15 years and those that don’t think this  wear rose tints.

      Bollocks! Those with eyes have known for 15 years that Messi is the far superior player. I don't give a f**k that Ronaldo plays for United. In fact I like it, he makes you worse and holds up the development of your young attackers.
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      Reply #117: Dec 06, 2021 01:24:55 pm
      At the end of the day, it all comes down to whatever you consider to be the most important. Natural talent or hard work. It's pretty clear Messi had more natural talent, but Ronaldo worked his ass off to catch up.
      Who made the most of their abilities? Hard to say, really.

      One thing that goes against Messi is that he's incapable of lifting his teammates. When things do not go his way, he tends to go missing (as we saw in the 4-0 against us).
      Ronaldo on the other hand can transcend his teammates. Portugal would have never won the Euros without him encouraging them from the bench in the final.
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      Reply #118: Dec 06, 2021 01:36:57 pm
      At the end of the day, it all comes down to whatever you consider to be the most important. Natural talent or hard work. It's pretty clear Messi had more natural talent, but Ronaldo worked his ass off to catch up.
      Who made the most of their abilities? Hard to say, really.

      One thing that goes against Messi is that he's incapable of lifting his teammates. When things do not go his way, he tends to go missing (as we saw in the 4-0 against us).
      Ronaldo on the other hand can transcend his teammates. Portugal would have never won the Euros without him encouraging them from the bench in the final.

      Pretty much this, I said it a couple pages back. One was born to be the best, the other worked to be the best, so it's impossible to compare them and there will never be a definite answer. I do believe in the long run, in say, 50 years times, more people will be watching compilations of Messi then they will Ronaldo and  thus regarding him as the best ever.
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      Reply #119: Dec 06, 2021 02:24:51 pm
      Bollocks! Those with eyes have known for 15 years that Messi is the far superior player. I don't give a f**k that Ronaldo plays for United. In fact I like it, he makes you worse and holds up the development of your young attackers.

      Those that have eyes dispute hence why many say they were the best for 10/15 years
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      Re: Who's the best? Ronaldo or Messi.
      Reply #120: Dec 06, 2021 02:29:14 pm
      I would take either Ronaldinho or Maradona before either player


      Maradona imo is the best that’s been
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      Reply #121: Dec 06, 2021 02:35:36 pm
      I would take either Ronaldinho or Maradona before either player


      Maradona imo is the best that’s been

      It would be really interesting to see Maradona and Pele play today with the extra protection.

      Too young to have got to see Pele, Cruyff, Best in the flesh and probably too young to have truly appreciated what Dalglish, Platini,Zico, Socrates and Michael Laudrup done on a pitch
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      Reply #122: Dec 06, 2021 02:52:27 pm
      It would be really interesting to see Maradona and Pele play today with the extra protection.

      Too young to have got to see Pele, Cruyff, Best in the flesh and probably too young to have truly appreciated what Dalglish, Platini,Zico, Socrates and Michael Laudrup done on a pitch

      They did nothing but kick Maradona and he still got past them -


      Kenny was supreme on the ball
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      Reply #123: Dec 06, 2021 04:04:12 pm

      Fair shout. He was just a magician with the ball. And it always looked so effortless.
      Was he a better player than Messi or Ronaldo? Probably not, but he's the kind of player that makes people fall in love with football. I mean... how many Barca players got a standing ovation at the Bernabeu?
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      Reply #124: Jan 15, 2022 04:25:31 pm
      Messi messi messi
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      Reply #125: Jan 16, 2022 06:00:45 pm

      Salah, Salah, Salah!!
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      Reply #127: Jan 17, 2022 09:00:53 pm
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      Reply #128: Jan 17, 2022 11:22:56 pm
      This might go on for some time..becoming a post pub thread.
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      Reply #129: Jan 18, 2022 07:48:14 am
      This might go on for some time..becoming a post pub thread.

      Depends how you view the game

      Messi is a natural footballer, Ronaldo is an athlete who has worked hard to become a very effective footballer

      Best footballer though? Messi every day all day
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      Reply #130: Jan 18, 2022 10:30:11 am
      Depends how you view the game

      Messi is a natural footballer, Ronaldo is an athlete who has worked hard to become a very effective footballer

      Best footballer though? Messi every day all day

      Great point.

      Messi is by far and away the more naturally gifted bit you can't take it away from Ronaldo, no matter how much of and arse he is.

      Made himself the ultimate footballer pretty much who could play multiple roles, heading, passing dribbling. An unreal athlete as well so can see why anyone would say he's the best.

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      Reply #131: Jan 18, 2022 12:46:26 pm

      Messi is by far  and away the more naturally gifted bit you can't take it away from Ronaldo, no matter how much of and arse he is.

      Made himself the ultimate footballer pretty much who could play multiple roles, heading, passing dribbling. An unreal athlete as well so can see why anyone would say he's the best.



      I’ve always been of the opinion because Ronaldo a manc you’ll naturally get rival fans always siding with Messi regardless of the facts which you quite rightly point out. Fortunately you don’t wear rose tints Si  ;D

      My take is this, if you ask me who’s the most natural gifted player in the world it’s Messi everyday. He doesn’t have to work for it, he was born with such incredible talent.

      Ask me who’s the most gifted athlete in football it’s Ronaldo and not even Messi comes close to it. The fact that Ronaldo has had to work at who many thinks he’s the best player in the world it’s why so many give him the vote.

      His work regime/diet controll/exercise etc etc there’s arguably no one can touch him. His next birthday is 37.  :o :o and still fighting with the best in world football. I think I read somewhere this season he’s scored 14 goals in 21 starts, you won’t find another player in world football for his age doing this.

      Let’s not forget Messi has never played in the hardest league in football (( any of you anti Ronaldo fans dispute that? )  Had Messi played in our league I’m pretty show his goal tally would be a lot less. Fans forget this, that or they keep the rose tints on.  ;D

      Let the fight continue who is, was the best. I’m more than happy a Man Utd player goes down in the history books in many fans/peoples eyes as the greatest of all time. Fcuk the hand of god, cheating tw@t
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      Reply #132: Jan 18, 2022 12:53:24 pm
      I’ve always been of the opinion because Ronaldo a manc you’ll naturally get rival fans always siding with Messi regardless of the facts which you quite rightly point out. Fortunately you don’t wear rose tints Si  ;D

      My take is this, if you ask me who’s the most natural gifted player in the world it’s Messi everyday. He doesn’t have to work for it, he was born with such incredible talent.

      Ask me who’s the most gifted athlete in football it’s Ronaldo and not even Messi comes close to it. The fact that Ronaldo has had to work at who many thinks he’s the best player in the world it’s why so many give him the vote.

      His work regime/diet controll/exercise etc etc there’s arguably no one can touch him. His next birthday is 37.  :o :o and still fighting with the best in world football. I think I read somewhere this season he’s scored 14 goals in 21 starts, you won’t find another player in world football for his age doing this.

      Let’s not forget Messi has never played in the hardest league in football (( any of you anti Ronaldo fans dispute that? )  Had Messi played in our league I’m pretty show his goal tally would be a lot less. Fans forget this, that or they keep the rose tints on.  ;D

      Let the fight continue who is, was the best. I’m more than happy a Man Utd player goes down in the history books in many fans/peoples eyes as the greatest of all time. Fcuk the hand of god, cheating tw@t

      Don't get me wrong Keith.

      Neither are the best ever for me.

      That goes to a certain  Diego Armando.
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      Reply #133: Jan 18, 2022 12:56:54 pm
      Don't get me wrong Keith.

      Neither are the best ever for me.

      That goes to a certain  Diego Armando.

      I struggle to forgive and forget what he did against us in the world club so I keep my blinkers on, you could call them rose tints if you want.  ;D
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      Reply #134: Jan 18, 2022 01:10:01 pm
      Didn't Ronaldo get Rooney sent off in major knock out match?
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      Reply #135: Jan 18, 2022 01:21:59 pm
      Didn't Ronaldo get Rooney sent off in major knock out match?

      Was just going to say that with his silly little wink . W**ker can't stand him
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      Reply #136: Jan 18, 2022 01:22:33 pm
      Didn't Ronaldo get Rooney sent off in major knock out match?

      Yeah think it was the England v Portugal game.

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      Reply #137: Jan 18, 2022 01:36:49 pm
      I’ve always been of the opinion because Ronaldo a manc you’ll naturally get rival fans always siding with Messi regardless of the facts which you quite rightly point out. Fortunately you don’t wear rose tints Si  ;D

      My take is this, if you ask me who’s the most natural gifted player in the world it’s Messi everyday. He doesn’t have to work for it, he was born with such incredible talent.

      Ask me who’s the most gifted athlete in football it’s Ronaldo and not even Messi comes close to it. The fact that Ronaldo has had to work at who many thinks he’s the best player in the world it’s why so many give him the vote.

      His work regime/diet controll/exercise etc etc there’s arguably no one can touch him. His next birthday is 37.  :o :o and still fighting with the best in world football. I think I read somewhere this season he’s scored 14 goals in 21 starts, you won’t find another player in world football for his age doing this.

      Let’s not forget Messi has never played in the hardest league in football (( any of you anti Ronaldo fans dispute that? )  Had Messi played in our league I’m pretty show his goal tally would be a lot less. Fans forget this, that or they keep the rose tints on.  ;D

      Let the fight continue who is, was the best. I’m more than happy a Man Utd player goes down in the history books in many fans/peoples eyes as the greatest of all time. Fcuk the hand of god, cheating tw@t

      That’s literally no different to what I said Keith, nothing to do with rose tinted glasses

      Don't get me wrong Keith.

      Neither are the best ever for me.

      That goes to a certain  Diego Armando.

      Agree, Maradonna best for me out of all three of them

      Yeah think it was the England v Poland game.

      Ronaldo play for Poland back then did he?
      Man of many talents 😀

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