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      Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)

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      ruthcity
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #125: May 22, 2021 07:14:59 pm
      Gini has been a great signing for us, and will rightly have his place in club folklore.

      But anyone who thinks or says his performance for the past several months are worthy of being given start after start are deluded.

      If Keita, Shaq, Ox to name 3 got his chances and performed to the same level the place would be in uproar saying its time to move them on.

      If what we done in previous seasons was how it works then Rush be still up front with Barnes trying to feed him. His current form is below par and its quite possible whoever replaces him might spark us into new life.

      Honest answer, has he performed like a captain when given that armband? Has he bossed games? Has he created much? When is the last time you watched us and said Gini was boss there?

      I had to read your post a couple of times. Has your account been hacked or have you been possessed by Hemidall?

      “Based on his assists and goals this season, do you still think he deserves to be our player?” It’s all too familiar. Even if Gini starts, it’s Klopp’s way of appreciating him for all that he has done for us. Sometimes it’s about giving back to football for all that good football has done for us.

      He’s our player and wish him well.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #126: May 22, 2021 07:37:32 pm
      I had to read your post a couple of times. Has your account been hacked or have you been possessed by Hemidall?

      “Based on his assists and goals this season, do you still think he deserves to be our player?” It’s all too familiar. Even if Gini starts, it’s Klopp’s way of appreciating him for all that he has done for us. Sometimes it’s about giving back to football for all that good football has done for us.

      He’s our player and wish him well.

      Steady on Ruth 😅😅

      I might be on my own on this or maybe I just didnt get my pair of rose tinted Gini glasses but Im not recalling a lot of times this season where im saying Gini was brilliant today, or Gini bailed us out today, or Gini showed real leadership today when needed.. Can everyone who thinks Im out of order here give me regular examples of where Im wrong.

      If his head is gone because he flirted with Barce and it fell though is that acceptable?

      If his form is gone because were missing other players is that acceptable?

      Maybe im unfair and expect the high standards hes set for himself more then hes shown this year?

      Lastly whatever way it ends I will also wish him well as he has been a tremendous servant the past few years and has earned his place in the pantheon of greats, but for me that does not abstain him from being called out for being poor this season, in my opinion
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #127: May 22, 2021 08:54:25 pm

      that does not abstain him from being called out for being poor this season, in my opinion

      Can you name me a player who hasn't been poorer than their previous standards?

      Because I'm struggling.

      Worse than previous seasons: Trent, Robbo, pointless including the centre backs, Gini (agreed), Salah, Bobby, Sadio

      Arguably Trent has been better in patches but not overall

      Hendo I don't really have an opinion on but suspect he would join the others above; Millie has defo got worse as he loses half a yard of pace

      Fabinho would be my POTY but even he hasn't been better than previous seasons (not at DM anyway), it's just everyone else has been worse than him

      Thiago not applicable as it's his first season, nor is Jota, nor is Curtis really as this is effectively his first season (done very well for me) and same for Nat and Rhys (both also better than could have been reasonably expected)

      No point even considering the usual sicknotes like Keita, Ox, Shaq, Div (and the list goes on) and the new sicknotes like Kostas

      I do actually think Alisson's keeping has got a little bit better, and that's ignoring his last minute headers, so he's the only player I can think of who has actually shown a wee bit more than in previous years (and I reckon plenty will disagree that Ali has got any better)

      So Gini is in pretty good company among almost every single one of his teammates in not being as good as we have come to expect.

      For me the biggest drop-off in performance has been Sadio, by an absolute mile, and that's not a criticism, that's just an observation, I'm sure it's covid-related and the club know his physical capacity has been affected and are rightly not broadcasting it from the rooftops. But we can all see it, right?

      Go ahead, call out the players for being poor, you can start with Gini if you like, but it'll take you a few minutes to go through them all...
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #128: May 22, 2021 08:58:48 pm
      Can you name me a player who hasn't been poorer than their previous standards?

      Because I'm struggling.



      All have, but all have at times stood uo and done the job

      Ali, Trent, Sadio, Mo, Bobby, all took stick this year, but turned it around or played parts in vital moments.

      Has Gini? If he has I cant recall, genuinely, not just to suit my argument.

      « Last Edit: May 22, 2021 09:04:17 pm by Brian78 »
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #129: May 22, 2021 09:04:09 pm
      All have, but all have at times stood uo and done the job

      Ali, Trent, Sadio, Mo, Bobby, all took stick this year, but turned it around or played parts in vital moments.

      Has Gini?


      Yes

      He's just got a less glamorous role than other players anyway and has probably played even more conservatively because of the centre back shitfest meaning he's got to spend 90 minutes offering protection

      Certainly been better than Sadio and Bobby who have both been awful for most of the season

      Gini is never poor. I've never seen him have a bad game for us ever. Quiet, yes. Bad, never, not one game. He barely ever makes a mistake.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #130: May 22, 2021 09:06:20 pm
      I don't reckon we're gonna agree, Brian

      I give up, you're wearing me out  :lmao:
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #131: May 22, 2021 09:14:58 pm
      I don't reckon we're gonna agree, Brian

      I give up, you're wearing me out  :lmao:

      Well agree on that then ✌
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #132: May 22, 2021 09:21:17 pm
      Im sticking a bet on him to score first or score the winner tomorrow now, nothing surer will happen now!
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #133: May 23, 2021 01:22:06 am
      Im sticking a bet on him to score first or score the winner tomorrow now, nothing surer will happen now!

      I don't reckon he plays, may be on the bench but might not even be asked to come on.

      Just a thought!
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #134: May 23, 2021 01:51:55 am
      I don't reckon he plays, may be on the bench but might not even be asked to come on.

      Just a thought!

      If this is indeed his last game with us, no effing way Jürgen keeps him on the bench all game.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #135: May 23, 2021 02:29:05 am
      There will be no sentimental decision regarding Gini, Klopp will simply pick the best team possible to win the match. Obviously.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #136: May 23, 2021 02:43:39 am
      There will be no sentimental decision regarding Gini, Klopp will simply pick the best team possible to win the match. Obviously.

      Has always been the case. He will play because the boss thinks he’s the best person for the job.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #137: May 23, 2021 07:22:20 am
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #138: May 23, 2021 12:29:13 pm

      Thanks for posting and indeed a very nice set of comments from Jürgen.

      ON the other hand, it has been months since I've been on The Echo web site and now my browser is sore from having looked at it. If a company wanted to design something to make someone's reading experience excruciating, they need to talk to the folks from that publication.  :f_steam:
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #139: May 23, 2021 10:23:58 pm
      I wonder how many players have left Liverpool at his age and gone on to greater things ? not many
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #140: May 24, 2021 04:34:07 am
      Was sad seeing those emotional scenes after the game.

      Gonna miss ya Gini lad. Good Luck in your future.
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      Reply #141: May 24, 2021 11:02:34 am
      Was sad seeing those emotional scenes after the game.

      Gonna miss ya Gini lad. Good Luck in your future.

      we will always always remember Barcelona .
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      Reply #142: May 24, 2021 11:03:36 am
      we will always always remember Barcelona .

      Always mate, always!
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #143: May 25, 2021 07:35:32 pm
      Very consistent very rarely injured will be missed, good Gini
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #144: May 26, 2021 03:03:44 pm
      So it looks like it's Barcelona. Wonder how he'll be received considering what he did to them in the Champion's League.
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      Reply #145: May 26, 2021 03:24:52 pm
      So it looks like it's Barcelona. Wonder how he'll be received considering what he did to them in the Champion's League.

      Will have absolutely zero bearing on it I would think
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #146: May 26, 2021 03:51:42 pm
      Sorry to see him leave the club, whatever his true motives. Whether it is financial or a fresh challenge, I wish him well for the remainder of his career. It will be difficult to replace a player who has stayed consistently injury free.
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      Reply #147: May 26, 2021 03:57:15 pm
      looks like it's 3 years at lower-than-expected wages. Given it looks like he was underpaid with us, Gini should really have gone with a new agent it seems.

      Barcelona are a couple years from being a geriatric team. Gini is 31 in a few months, Aguero is 32, Messi is 33, Pique 34, Busquets 32, Pjanic 31 and Griezmann 30.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #148: May 26, 2021 08:39:29 pm

      just the very thought of it makes me smile
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum (Barça / Bayern Munich)
      Reply #149: May 27, 2021 01:07:21 am
      So let me see if this is correct:

      He wanted a 4 year contract

      We offered 3

      He refused

      Now joins Barca on a 3 year deal???

      and has taken a pay cut???

      Please someone help me to understand what the f**k has happened here?

      Is it that he just wants to play for Barca?

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