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      Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      heimdall
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #475: Sep 23, 2020 01:09:22 pm
      The amount you would have to fine today's player to affect his behavior, the players association would never allow, and just the precedent for saying "you're faking it" would be very difficult in today's subjective world (and Podence who I mentioned from the other day would be a pretty flagrant example, touched on the chest and holding his face, etc.).

      I think it was David James who used to ask ahead of time, how much he would be fined for missing training so he could do a photo shoot somewhere, and then just write the check out on the spot.

      Not sure if this is on video somewhere,but I think in Jürgen's first season there was a game where Joao Teixera, went down like this. It might have been an actual foul I don't recall, but he stayed down and was being so melodramatic with it. The camera was on Jürgen and he could plainly be seen and heard, saying, "Joao.....Get Up!"  :)

      THAT is how it would be stopped, when the teams, coaches and players themselves said "No more." But you will find very few managers with that kind of ethic, so I suppose as Scotia and Kopite78 say, we're stuck with it.


      Perhaps a retrospective yellow card then in addition to fine, they add up. BTW to get round the subjective tag you have a panel of experts reviewing the footage and the offence would have to be obvious
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #476: Sep 23, 2020 02:16:08 pm
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #477: Sep 23, 2020 02:17:00 pm
      Nope, it's #5, whoever that is
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #478: Sep 23, 2020 02:22:23 pm
      Whoever it is, they’re going to have some sore ankles.
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #479: Sep 23, 2020 02:31:05 pm
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #480: Sep 23, 2020 04:39:26 pm

      Bad day for him all around. :-)
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #481: Sep 23, 2020 06:07:24 pm

      Remember the histrionics, the wailing and gnashing of teeth when we didn't sign him?

      Seems Klopp knew best after all.
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      Re: Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #482: Sep 24, 2020 06:07:00 pm
      Quote from Kopite78
      That's where I am at,  not saying I like it

      I'm not 100% with that, again in principle but what I'm not sure about with using var is that you can slow things down, look at it from three or more angles and you can get that to fit whatever narrative is in your mind
      Not deliberately but subconsciously

      Var for me takes out the context of the situation in some of these cases

      A VAR only has to confirm whether it's a penalty or not. A yellow can only be given by the referee if the VAR believes there has been no contact, therefore no penalty.

      When Mo Salah won similar penalties before, we all rushed to defend him as we should. If you get a penalty, then you can react any way you want as it makes no sense to be given a penalty and booked (again) for it.

      I personally can't see any contact to justify the decision (I thought there was more contact for the penalty at Napoli last year, and there wasn't a lot in that either) In any case, the penalty was saved anyway, so we can forget about it and move on.

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