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      Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)

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      Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)
      Oct 02, 2020 09:09:00 am
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      Reply #1: Oct 02, 2020 09:12:39 am
      I'm pretty disappointed about this would much prefer to see Origi sold than Brewster.

      At least we have a decent buy back clause.
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      Reply #2: Oct 02, 2020 09:59:08 am
      I'm pretty disappointed about this would much prefer to see Origi sold than Brewster.

      At least we have a decent buy back clause.

      Disappointed as well. Maybe nobody wants origi ... we are selling a player who is still unproven in my book at any level above the championship for 23m which is great business

      Origi on the other hand will never be anything in terms of being a regular starter and matchwinner. To me he isnt even good enough or reliable enough as a back up.

      If someone had offered decent money for origi them im certain he would be gone and brewster retained. Thats obviously not the case and fsg/the club are looking to balance the books hence origi will stay and brewster along with shaq will be sold. Id sell grujic and Wilson as well. Neither will make it here.
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      Reply #3: Oct 02, 2020 10:08:08 am
      Not often Klopp makes mistakes, suppose he's human after all. I'd keep Brewster and sell Origi. You know what your selling with Origi. Not sure anyone knows yet what your selling in Brewster just yet.
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      Reply #4: Oct 02, 2020 10:08:52 am
      23 million for Brewster from Sheffield
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      Reply #5: Oct 02, 2020 10:21:35 am
      Not often Klopp makes mistakes, suppose he's human after all. I'd keep Brewster and sell Origi. You know what your selling with Origi. Not sure anyone knows yet what your selling in Brewster just yet.

      Ridiculous comment as you know literally zero about the situation behind the scenes to suggest hes making a mistake
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      Reply #6: Oct 02, 2020 10:28:57 am
      Ridiculous comment as you know literally zero about the situation behind the scenes to suggest hes making a mistake

      Why's it ridiculous comment. You got insight on how good/ bad Brewster going to be?
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      Re: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)
      Reply #7: Oct 02, 2020 10:29:59 am
      Sheffield United an interesting move - really rate Wilder but not sure that system is set up to create lots of chances for a young, promising striker.
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      Reply #8: Oct 02, 2020 10:33:15 am
      Why's it ridiculous comment. You got insight on how good/ bad Brewster going to be?

      Have you?

      Do you know what conversations behind the scenes between the players and agents and the manager and club?

      I mean you must to flat out call it a mistake?
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      Re: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)
      Reply #9: Oct 02, 2020 10:41:05 am
      Have you?

      Do you know what conversations behind the scenes between the players and agents and the manager and club?

      I mean you must to flat out call it a mistake?

      Shouldn't ask question with question I asked you first. However, I'll welcomely answer first on this occasion. No I don't, the issue isn't anything to do with what the player or agents doing behind the scenes is.

      It's purely based on ability with him being so young. No one can be sure at his age if he can or cannot make the big time yet. From that basis I think he should stay. That's what my opinion is based on, is that so ridiculous ?

      Now Mr Keyboard tell us your insight why my opinion is so ridiculous since you obviously know more than me.  ;D
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      Reply #10: Oct 02, 2020 10:47:13 am
      Shouldn't ask question with question I asked you first. However, I'll welcomely answer first on this occasion. No I don't, the issue isn't anything to do with what the player or agents doing behind the scenes is.

      It's purely based on ability with him being so young. No one can be sure at his age if he can or cannot make the big time yet. From that basis I think he should stay. That's what my opinion is based on, is that so ridiculous ?

      Now Mr Keyboard tell us your insight why my opinion is so ridiculous since you obviously know more than me.  ;D

      No I'm saying I dont know, you're the one talking in absolutes here saying Klopp has made a mistake

      How do you know his agent hasnt been to the club and say

      What's the plan? Is he going to feature regularly this season?
      If not he doesn't want another loan, he wants to settle somewhere and become a first team regular at somewhere he can call his home and feel part of it for the foreseeable future

      Some people dont want to live out of a suitcase and maybe Rhian is one of those

      But as far as you're concerned the manager has made a mistake without knowing the full details.. yet you call me mr keyboard, I'm not the one giving full and opinionated views when I dont know the full reasoning

      Even if it's based on ability (i dont think or why put the buy back, to me that suggests its player driven not manager driven) but even if it's based on ability i trust the man who watches the lad in training every single f**king day as opposed to someone who flirts with an Aussie on the internet who's never seen a minute of training

      That's why i think you talking in absolutes is ridiculous
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      Reply #11: Oct 02, 2020 10:58:44 am
      No I'm saying I dont know, you're the one talking in absolutes here saying Klopp has made a mistake

      How do you know his agent hasnt been to the club and say

      What's the plan? Is he going to feature regularly this season?
      If not he doesn't want another loan, he wants to settle somewhere and become a first team regular at somewhere he can call his home and feel part of it for the foreseeable future

      Some people dont want to live out of a suitcase and maybe Rhian is one of those

      But as far as you're concerned the manager has made a mistake without knowing the full details.. yet you call me mr keyboard, I'm not the one giving full and opinionated views when I dont know the full reasoning

      Even if it's based on ability (i dont think or why put the buy back, to me that suggests its player driven not manager driven) but even if it's based on ability i trust the man who watches the lad in training every single f**king day as opposed to someone who flirts with an Aussie on the internet who's never seen a minute of training

      That's why i think you talking in absolutes is ridiculous

      Well it looks a we're both talking ridiculous then because I don't agree with your thought process. Just because I think Kloop may make a mistake doesn't come under the terms ridiculous, it's just a opinion.

      From what I heard before I think Liverpool get around 15% of any sell on clause but don't quote me on that as only heard it passing...

      How do you know Rhian doesn't want to live out of a suitcase?? Let me answer it for you without calling your remark ridiculous!!!  You base a opinion on your thoughts, just like I did saying no ones knows how good bad Brewster is yet.

      Last post on the matter as I know you can go on and on and on about anything. Get your usual last post in as I know you like that.  ;D

      Regards..
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      Re: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)
      Reply #12: Oct 02, 2020 10:59:07 am
      Anybody saying we should have sold Divock instead of Brewster (and there are lots). What are you basing this on? I guarantee most saying this have barely watched him play, if at all. Just saying it because it's the flavour of the month shout

      Scored a few goals in the Championship but have a bit of perspective. Divock was scoring in World Cups at the same age
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      Reply #13: Oct 02, 2020 11:04:39 am
      .

      From what I heard before I think Liverpool get around 15% of any sell on clause but don't quote me on that as only heard it passing...


      ..

      No point commenting on the rest because you've got all upset

      On that though

      Yes 15% sell on if we dont inact the buy back which is in place for 3years

      See it is handy knowing details before you comment eh

      Anybody saying we should have sold Divock instead of Brewster (and there are lots). What are you basing this on? I guarantee most saying this have barely watched him play, if at all. Just saying it because it's the flavour of the month shout

      Scored a few goals in the Championship but have a bit of perspective. Divock was scoring in World Cups at the same age


      People haven't seen enough of him to comment, seems a lovely kid, seems a talent but we cant comment really because none of us have seen enough of him to do so

      Thats why I cant get talking in absolutes about situations like this.. just makes you look daft
      « Last Edit: Oct 02, 2020 11:13:20 am by Kopite78 »
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      Reply #14: Oct 02, 2020 11:12:21 am
      Anybody saying we should have sold Divock instead of Brewster (and there are lots). What are you basing this on? I guarantee most saying this have barely watched him play, if at all. Just saying it because it's the flavour of the month shout

      Scored a few goals in the Championship but have a bit of perspective. Divock was scoring in World Cups at the same age

      Because Brewster is only 20 and has a way higher ceiling than Origi in my opinion.

      I don't see Origi getting any better than he is now which is average with an ability to score the occasional worldie.

      Brewster has the ability to be a consistent goal scorer and better all round forward player.
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      Reply #15: Oct 02, 2020 11:16:06 am

      Brewster has the ability to be a consistent goal scorer and better all round forward player.

      Does he? How many full games have you sat down and watched him play to come to that conclusion?
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      Reply #16: Oct 02, 2020 11:20:52 am
      No point commenting on the rest because you've got all upset

      On that though

      Yes 15% sell on if we dont inact the buy back which is in place for 3years

      See it is handy knowing details before you comment eh

      Agree

      People haven't seen enough of him to comment, seems a lovely kid, seems a talent but we cant comment really because none of us have seen enough of him to do so

      Thats why I cant get talking in absolutes about situations like this.. just makes you look daft

      Of course there's every point why you should answer my questions as I've answered yours. Certainly not up set we're expressing different opinions that's all. So still waiting for you to express yours along with your closing argument/statement. Don't worry I won't be upset.
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      Reply #17: Oct 02, 2020 11:22:55 am
      Of course there's every point why you should answer my questions as I've answered yours. Certainly not up set we're expressing different opinions that's all. So still waiting for you to express yours along with your closing argument/statement. Don't worry I won't be upset.

      I've told you my opinion Keith

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      Reply #18: Oct 02, 2020 11:25:40 am

      You haven't mate but no problem will leave it there.  :hug:
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      Reply #19: Oct 02, 2020 11:25:53 am
      Personally speaking would have only let Brewster leave on loan to a pl club and then assess how he did in 12 months time like Harry Wilson.
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      Reply #20: Oct 02, 2020 11:27:26 am
      Personally speaking would have only let Brewster leave on loan to a pl club and then assess how he did in 12 months time like Harry Wilson.

      Personally I would too, that's why I think the permanent deal is player led

      You haven't mate but no problem will leave it there.  :hug:

      I have.

      Have a good day Keef
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      Reply #21: Oct 02, 2020 11:37:00 am

      That's pretty close to my number plate.  :lmao: good guess
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      Reply #22: Oct 02, 2020 11:38:47 am
      That's pretty close to my number plate.  :lmao: good guess

      Oh no.. you're not one of those are you? 🤦‍♂️
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      Reply #23: Oct 02, 2020 11:45:18 am
      Oh no.. you're not one of those are you? 🤦‍♂️

      Afraid so, got it in my late 20s I think in hindsight was a bad thing but now lumbered with it. Me bad.  :couch:
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      Reply #24: Oct 02, 2020 12:02:51 pm
      Personally speaking would have only let Brewster leave on loan to a pl club and then assess how he did in 12 months time like Harry Wilson.

      To be fair the terms of the deal pretty much make it a three year loan deal, except we get a big sum of money up front... if he turns out amazing in those three years, we have the buyback, if he doesn’t, oh well, we have £25 million...
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      Re: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United)
      Reply #25: Oct 02, 2020 12:03:20 pm
      Does he? How many full games have you sat down and watched him play to come to that conclusion?

      Very few being honest but he looked good in pre season off the back of a very good loan spell with Swans.

      Time will tell how good he is I guess.
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      Reply #26: Oct 02, 2020 12:04:32 pm
      Very few being honest but he looked good in pre season off the back of a very good loan spell with Swans.

      Time will tell how good he is I guess.

      I fancy him to score 10-15 goals this season with them.

      Seems like a good move all around as with Jota and Minamino he wouldn't have had much look in this season here.
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      Reply #27: Oct 02, 2020 12:14:56 pm
      I fancy him to score 10-15 goals this season with them.



      If what you says comes  true and scores that many goals then 100% mistake to let him go. Time will tell.
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      Reply #28: Oct 02, 2020 12:20:44 pm
      If what you says comes  true and scores that many goals then 100% mistake to let him go. Time will tell.

      Not a mistake if he wasn't going to get the same opportunity with us and if he didn't fit into the way we play.
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      Reply #29: Oct 02, 2020 12:21:50 pm
      If what you says comes  true and scores that many goals then 100% mistake to let him go. Time will tell.

      Why is it a mistake?

      If he goes away and scores those goals then he has developed with regular game time and then we can get him back with the buy back

      He wouldn't get those goals staying here this season

      If he gets those goals it makes it genius not a mistake

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      Reply #30: Oct 02, 2020 12:24:53 pm
      Not a mistake if he wasn't going to get the same opportunity with us and if he didn't fit into the way we play.

      Yeah I see your point if not getting the same opportunity.
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      Reply #31: Oct 02, 2020 12:32:57 pm
      A three year buy back option just means another club takes the gamble on his development.

      I'm OK with that.
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      Reply #32: Oct 02, 2020 01:32:39 pm
      Honestly how genius is Michael Edwards??

      We get 23.5 million to allow another club develop one of our players...If he develops well we can buy him back, most likelybat a good price, and if he proves not up to it weve bagged good money.....oh and if his new club decide to sell him because hes nit good enough or because a huge offer comes in, we get a cut of that to!!!

      And for a lad who would have seen very little game time here.....Edwards is different gravy
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      Reply #33: Oct 02, 2020 01:41:58 pm
      $23M for an unproven (with potential) player like Brewster? Wow, i was not expecting that kind of money.

      Good news for Brewster is if Sheff are paying that kind of coin they will certainly give him time on the field.

      It seems all the terms are in our favor: high price, buy back option for 3 years and 15% sell-on clause.
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      Reply #34: Oct 02, 2020 01:58:01 pm
      £23.5M!

      Fans not allowed in stadiums and football clubs still able to throw the dollar around!

      I remember a while back working out that they could let all supporters in for free every game and have a tenner stuck to each seat and they still wouldn't go bust.

      I'm convinced now that Michael Edwards has written a computer virus and has every manager in Europe's web browser history.  It's the only logical conclusion.
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      Reply #35: Oct 02, 2020 03:11:41 pm
      Shrewd move for all parties concerned and I think Brewster will develop under Chris Wilder..
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      Reply #36: Oct 02, 2020 04:23:35 pm
      Good for both parties. Brewster was never much of a player, but was over hyped like most of our academy players.

      He needs to take this opportunity to push on though.
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      Reply #37: Oct 02, 2020 04:50:29 pm
      It's a good deal, even though I had hopes for Brewster to break through with us this year. When we bought Jota it seemed pretty evident that Brewster wasn't going to feature with us this season. I think Jürgen more or less said it is the pressing game where he didn't manage to excel, despite his good goal-scoring record.

      AT our level, it's fine margins that separate those who make it and those who do not. Watching our game Monday compared to yesterday, you see just how lethal our pressing game is (Monday). Take that away and we're not nearly as potent. It's what we do. If a player isn't quite up to speed in that area, it's an issue. Taki and Diogo look very much the part there. Divock is settled as a backup.

      Hopefully Rhian does well with Sheffield United. I know we have the buy-back, but I'd say the odds are very long that he ever returns to Liverpool. That's OK.
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      Reply #39: Oct 02, 2020 07:16:55 pm
      I've got mixed feelings about this one.

      Pro's

      - We've just got 23 million for a player who has scored 11 goals in the Championship and i think possibly one, maybe 2 senior goals for LFC
      - The sell-on could be another earner in the future
      - The buy-back means we could get the lad back if he blossoms and others are in for him in a year or two
      - He clearly isn't quite Klopp's cup of tea, is very much a box player and not the false 9 that we play with in Bobby (and with Taki as understudy)
      - Ings wasn't quite what Klopp wanted, he went and scored more Prem goals than any of our lads last season but we all know he would have struggled for match time at LFC had he stayed
      - It's a good price for a lad who probably won't figure much this season
      - I don't think he would have been happy to sit on the bench and play in the cups, you can tell he just wants to play
      - Got to trust the manager on this. We're not looking to loan out or sell young Curtis Jones because the manager believes in him. simple as that.

      Cons
      - A year long loan was a better option, if this lad is a hit he probably adds 15 million to that price tag in one season (that's how it is with English players)
      - Still not convinced on Minamino, had we kept him, Brewster's goals might have forced him in to the team
      - He shone at Swansea, he shone at the Under-17 World Cup and he looked very good in pre-season for LFC. We might be letting an absolute gem go here.

      I played my wildcard in fantasy footy last week and brought him in, he's a bargain at £4.5 mill and will go into my team for the weekend!
      « Last Edit: Oct 02, 2020 07:23:03 pm by Scottbot »
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      Reply #40: Oct 02, 2020 09:44:11 pm
      All in all a good deal for all concerned
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      Reply #41: Oct 02, 2020 10:30:13 pm
      Good luck Rhian

      See you in a couple of years lad
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      Reply #42: Oct 02, 2020 10:32:10 pm
      Hope he bangs in some goals and is back in Liverpool red in a couple of years.
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      Reply #43: Oct 03, 2020 06:04:49 am
      I think the important element here is the development of the player, Jürgen obviously recognises the talent in Rhian, the unfortunate thing is he’s about to flower at a time where the type of football he will potentially thrive in is not here at Anfield,

      As has been eluded to already a Klopp system does not accommodate for a out & out striker, we don’t essentially have any strikers, we have players that will get us goals obviously but they are not strikers in the conventional sense, Rhian is, so this deal is perfect both for the player & for the clubs,

      Rhian gets regular playing time, that will enhance his development, in a team that uses a striker in the conventional way, Sheffield Utd, recruit a young hungry player on the periphery of his career who could potentially be a Billy Sharp type success and more,  and become the new hero at Bramall Lane, but here is no rush, he’s a young 20 year old with fire in his belly,

      Chris Wilder is no Jürgen Klopp, however, he is a very good manager who will bring the best out of Rhian with his type of football, so good luck to them both,


      Personally I’d liked Rhian to stay, but I can fully understand that the lad wants to play and show the world his obvious talents, who are we to stand in his way, as for Origi, I think we are being unfair on him, he has seen it and done it and is streets ahead of Rhian, he is also more of a striker type and Jürgen has tried to fit him into his system, he can’t, hence him being on the bench most of the time, Origi knows he probably isn’t in Jürgen’s long term plans but he is still under contract, I feel for the lad because you cannot expect him to play his best when he only gets 10-15 mins in a normal match day, same when he’s asked to play in domestic cup fixtures, he cannot get to show consistency when you don’t get to play often enough,

      To me it’s a win win all round, everyone is happy and most importantly is Rhian.



      Good Luck Lad,  ynwa.





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