Is Pay Per View the way of the future?

The online reaction to the initial offer of non-broadcast Premier League games for 15 "pounds" per match seems to be almost unanimously negative. Mostly what I'm seeing is in regard to the price, but some seem opposed to showing so many matches in general, I guess because it would continuine the staggered start times for nearly every match over the course of a match weekend.

So over here they show all the games that aren't being telecast on NBC Sports, on a new streaming service called Peacock. It shows those matches live and also holds them for on-demand viewing. There's other programming on it as well, sports and otherwise. The cost for the service is 5 U.S. dollars per month. I know this price will go up, but I'm wondering if a comparable rate, I think it's about 3 "Pounds" and 80 pence to equal 5 U.S. dollars, would be more acceptable to fans in UK, if not for an entire month of service, at least for an individual match of their preferred club?

I understand about the price being too high, but is there some price point where fans would be willing to pay to view non-televised matches while stadiums remain off limits to supporters? I want the bans to end soon but each newscast I watch makes me think we're looking at 2021 at the earliest, and very likely not until 11=12 months from now depending on progress with a vaccine and case statistics.

Are people going to stay away in total, or only if the price is too dear?

In these testing times it's a complete rip off, if anything we should have reduction in prescriptions right across the board. I won't be paying a penny. 

£15 is too much for a one off game in my opinion. I think it’s good that the option is there to watch the game if you wish but it’s a sport for the working class at the end of the day and many people are struggling right now. £5 would be much more realistic. 

It would be interesting to see premierleague clubs buy the streaming rights individually and then sell those games to their own fans the same way they would with a normal match ticket. I wonder which clubs would sell them at a reasonable price and which clubs would try and rob its own fans.

£4.99 and you nobody would have had too much of a problem. £15 is just so unrealistic for one game, no matter your circumstances...

If they did £4.99 a match or a choice to do a month at £19.99 they'd be making a whole lot more money then they will be from selling each game at £15... I know for £19.99 a month I’d be willing if it meant stopping messing around with streams... for £15 a game though I’ll carry on dealing with streams.

Surely if the more sensible fans boycott, the £15 charge for one measly game. There would be a reconsideration of this fee, maybe £5 per game would be more realistic to all fans, especially on a modest income.

Think £5 a game is more realistic people not exactly in the best financial shape in a lot of cases

Going to price themselves out of the market. The gravy train has hit the buffers, comes as no great surprise as they live in a self created bubble surrounded by millions. Now that bubble is in danger of bursting they want the fans to line the bubble with more money to protect them from the realities of the current situation.

I'll decline thank you very much..

Absolutely zero chance I will be paying £15 to watch a game.  I already share a NOW Tv sub and I'd say that paying about £8 a month is about my limit!  That's only because I'm fairly confident working my way around getting games via streams etc.

If you've got no knowledge of the myriad of ways to watch football online then you are probably getting badly ripped off already, so you might want to give them another £15 a game on top.

Fair play to Leicester for voting no on this daft proposal. 

Watch this and if you think there is any other good way to view football (other than in the stadium) you are wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5jqCh3Eiq0&t=8s

Watch this and if you think there is any other good way to view football (other than in the stadium) you are wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5jqCh3Eiq0&t=8s

Very interesting information. But of course for most of us, watching on TV or online is the ONLY way we can watch Premier League football. Even in the city of Liverpool there are tonnes of people who could never get into see a match, or if they did it would be only once in a GREAT while. The interest far surpasses the capacity at grounds, and of course as the video shows, the revenue from that interest is in the billions. The amount broadcasters in UK and around the world pay for telecast rights is the main thing keeping the league and clubs from doing more with streaming (as well as the expense involved in building a serious streaming platform, no small matter logistically or financially) - but as the video shows, if they can put together a viable tech platform for streaming, the Premier League could bring in more than 20 BILLION in revenues from subscriptions.

Might afford a few bob for the EFL in those circumstances, or conversely nobody would be left with an interest in watching....

Sky, money grabbing fuckers. Screw customers while times were good, then screw em harder when times are bad. Disgrace.
They have good coverage, but F**k do you pay for it.
Won't be paying 15 for any PPV match. Will get it somewhere on tinternet.

Every aspect of football as a form of entertainment is a total rip off. This is probably in line with everything else gone before it.
If prem players knocked a nought off their weekly Income. ie £150k a week, becomes 15k a week. That’s still a huge income for any individual. The savings the clubs would make, would allow them lower match fees to £5 each, and match day programmes to £1.00
So where did the greed start, and where will it end 🤷‍♂️

Yet another way to rip the loyal fans off.

I've been extremely lucky over the years in being able to watch Liverpool live whether it's been at the ground or on TV, If I can't get to a game then I like to be able to watch it live on the tele (I really don't like streams) I'm fortunate to have Sky and BT and the majority of Liverpool's matches are shown live on either of these channels, so I already pay enough, I won't be paying more on PPV. I'll just wait till midnight to watch the game on LFC TV.

Yet another way to rip the loyal fans off.

I've been extremely lucky over the years in being able to watch Liverpool live whether it's been at the ground or on TV, If I can't get to a game then I like to be able to watch it live on the tele (I really don't like streams) I'm fortunate to have Sky and BT and the majority of Liverpool's matches are shown live on either of these channels, so I already pay enough, I won't be paying more on PPV. I'll just wait till midnight to watch the game on LFC TV.

One thing this reminds me of is, it would be nice if radio comms actually announced the events of the match rather than talking endlessly about everything else . I'm old enough to have listened to live sport on the radio and it can be worthwhile if the comms are good at it. Many aren't

It's like Premiership Plus never existed! They tried it before and no one could be arsed paying, what makes them think this will be any different.

Yet another way to rip the loyal fans off.

I've been extremely lucky over the years in being able to watch Liverpool live whether it's been at the ground or on TV, If I can't get to a game then I like to be able to watch it live on the tele (I really don't like streams) I'm fortunate to have Sky and BT and the majority of Liverpool's matches are shown live on either of these channels, so I already pay enough, I won't be paying more on PPV. I'll just wait till midnight to watch the game on LFC TV.

Same here mate, I'm coming to the end of a 18month contract and won't be renewing, Sky/bt are taking the f***in piss, I know I can stream but it's unreliable if you want continuous coverage no matter the speed.

I'm not that clued up on the internet so what other platforms or sites could I access for a fraction of the price I pay sky ?


                                        YNWA

This "big picture" deal that is being put together could change the face of the Premier League. Looks like a power grab. Putting the big clubs in charge. Difficult to say whether it will be good for the game but it looks like a financial package for the lower leagues is part of it.

Developing story..

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-picture-transfer-news-live-19084338

It's like Premiership Plus never existed! They tried it before and no one could be arsed paying, what makes them think this will be any different.

Aye but that was like 50£ for 60 games or something working out a quid a game. This price is hard to believe really.

Same old story rip the fans off. We should stand together and not subscribe but you know what will happen

In the not too old days we used to complain about cable companies ripping people off with their packages and anxiously waiting for the a la carte programming that would put an end to their reign. Now that the years have passed and everything is subscription based i wonder if it’s actually worse than before.

This "big picture" deal that is being put together could change the face of the Premier League. Looks like a power grab. Putting the big clubs in charge. Difficult to say whether it will be good for the game but it looks like a financial package for the lower leagues is part of it.

Developing story..

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-picture-transfer-news-live-19084338

Ever since the inception of the Premier League, the goal has always been to get the league down to 18 teams.

Aye but that was like 50£ for 60 games or something working out a quid a game. This price is hard to believe really.

Just the next step really. They've seen how boxing etc is getting lashed on ppv at £20 a pop and due to in their eyes the product being such high value, that's what they think we'll be happy paying. Or what ever business buzzwords the wankers use!!

Just the next step really. They've seen how boxing etc is getting lashed on ppv at £20 a pop and due to in their eyes the product being such high value, that's what they think we'll be happy paying. Or what ever business buzzwords the wankers use!!

Soon the managers will be having shared press conferences talking up the match throwing chairs all over the show being separated by Mike Riley.

Honestly though I dont begrudge boxers who have reached their pinnacle and who have to make their money through PPV when they fight 2 or 3 times a year and spend the rest of their time in training camps. If they started doing every week for say David Price v  Derek Chisora people would soon F**k it off.

Fury v Joshua for example will be an event with 4 or 5 fights on the undercard all worth a watch as well.

Liverpool playing Sheffield United for the same price, I just cant see it taking off really. In a way I'm glad theyve chosen to blow me out the water financially because I wont be tempted to buy it.  5 or 6 quid a pop I might end up being drawn in but 15 quid + theres no decision to make really.

The model just doesnt work. In boxing the best fights end up on PPV. In this model the best matches are already taken by sky and BT and now we're being offered the dregs that's left for an absolute premium price.

Hope and expect this to F**k up.

The online reaction to the initial offer of non-broadcast Premier League games for 15 "pounds" per match seems to be almost unanimously negative. Mostly what I'm seeing is in regard to the price, but some seem opposed to showing so many matches in general, I guess because it would continuine the staggered start times for nearly every match over the course of a match weekend.

So over here they show all the games that aren't being telecast on NBC Sports, on a new streaming service called Peacock. It shows those matches live and also holds them for on-demand viewing. There's other programming on it as well, sports and otherwise. The cost for the service is 5 U.S. dollars per month. I know this price will go up, but I'm wondering if a comparable rate, I think it's about 3 "Pounds" and 80 pence to equal 5 U.S. dollars, would be more acceptable to fans in UK, if not for an entire month of service, at least for an individual match of their preferred club?

I understand about the price being too high, but is there some price point where fans would be willing to pay to view non-televised matches while stadiums remain off limits to supporters? I want the bans to end soon but each newscast I watch makes me think we're looking at 2021 at the earliest, and very likely not until 11=12 months from now depending on progress with a vaccine and case statistics.

Are people going to stay away in total, or only if the price is too dear?

You say you have LFCTV. So if you have, you can use it for our game, then watch the highlights later.

I wouldn't pay 15p for the rest of the PPV games, let alone the going rate. Streams are  messy and unreliable, so I wouldn't go near them.

Streams are  messy and unreliable

Couple of years ago would have agreed with you but I wouldn't now. 

Couple of years ago would have agreed with you but I wouldn't now. 

I agree with JD.

In Malta, I have a subscription for TSN 5.99 euros a month but the League Cup is not on it and I use acestream for pirated russian link which is reliable and if it is done properly, legal streaming will be fine (like Netflix). The issue will be the money you will pay for it.

Couple of years ago would have agreed with you but I wouldn't now. 

Yea anytime I've had to use a stream recently it's been as good as using my brother's SkyGo account on the tablet.

I'd pay $5 for an individual game if the quality was on par. Otherwise I'd just stream it. I can hook the laptop up to my TV and watch it just like it's broadcast. $15 per game is a laugh.

You say you have LFCTV. So if you have, you can use it for our game, then watch the highlights later.

I wouldn't pay 15p for the rest of the PPV games, let alone the going rate. Streams are  messy and unreliable, so I wouldn't go near them.

The matches on LFC TV aren't live over here (in the U.S.) They do have audio comms and i've noticed that steven hunter is better than the 5 Live guys about actually telling you what's happening on the park. The other guys just waffle on about seemingly anything else.

I do watch the highlights and even full match replays later - but I try to watch a live match if I can. AS I mentioned, it's a lot cheaper here for a month of games than what they are asking for just one match in UK.

OH, and agree about the streamss. for those and other reasons.

I'd pay $5 for an individual game if the quality was on par. Otherwise I'd just stream it. I can hook the laptop up to my TV and watch it just like it's broadcast. $15 per game is a laugh.

I think £5/$5 is a sensible price for one game of football. £15 is ludicrous.

I think £5/$5 is a sensible price for one game of football. £15 is ludicrous.

Of course, people used to pay upwards of $50 to watch a Mike Tyson fight for 90 seconds

Yea anytime I've had to use a stream recently it's been as good as using my brother's SkyGo account on the tablet.

Which streams do you use Si,  I've had one or two decent but most are slow and forever buffering,  I use a iPad 6 generation & my speed is pretty high, if I can find a stream as good as the one you use I can then ditch sky and save myself some dollar ?

Which streams do you use Si,  I've had one or two decent but most are slow and forever buffering,  I use a iPad 6 generation & my speed is pretty high, if I can find a stream as good as the one you use I can then ditch sky and save myself some dollar ?

To be honest I haven't had to use one since before lockdown and can't remember what it was.

Of course, people used to pay upwards of $50 to watch a Mike Tyson fight for 90 seconds

I remember going to a guy's house to watch Tyson-Spinks and of our mates walked in about 75 seconds after the opening bell. He stood in the doorway for a few seconds, watched Spinks crumble to the mat, gave us a quick wave, turned 180 and headed straight out. 

Realized later we should have chased him down to get his contribution to the fee. 

To be honest I haven't had to use one since before lockdown and can't remember what it was.

Don't worry man, Billy is not an undercover cop for the TV police! You can tell him!

Don't worry man, Billy is not an undercover cop for the TV police! You can tell him!

 

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£15 to watch a game of football no thank you robbing bas**rds. If anyone wants a reliable IPTV drop me a message. Been using myself for over 4 years no issues and provided for a few on here already.
1 year subscription will give you the following:-
🔴Thousands of movies 🎥 new and old
🔴Tv boxsets 📺 hundreds to watch
🔴Live tv with sports, films, movies, entertainment, cartoon, documentary all the U.K sky channels and loads of channels from abroad included. 99.9% of games are covered.
🔴pay per view events
Only work on Amazon firestick. This ain’t a cheap subscription that the owner disappears in a few months.
£45 for a whole year subscription.
£45 for iPhone or android mobile subscription.
£95 1 year subscription plus a 4k amazon stick loaded.
It’s so simple when receive you join your home network and off you go if your buying the 4k firestick with all software installed.
If you want just the subscription I will give you all instructions to download the IPTV and provide support and logins.

Which streams do you use Si,  I've had one or two decent but most are slow and forever buffering,  I use a iPad 6 generation & my speed is pretty high, if I can find a stream as good as the one you use I can then ditch sky and save myself some dollar ?

https://redditts.soccerstreams.net/home

That’ll give you the links to all streams for a game, there’s usually a ‘ladsstream’ link in there which I always have great success with with minimal pop ups.

Don't worry man, Billy is not an undercover cop for the TV police! You can tell him!

Aye, but i could be a Spy....



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                                           YNWA

https://redditts.soccerstreams.net/home

That’ll give you the links to all streams for a game, there’s usually a ‘ladsstream’ link in there which I always have great success with with minimal pop ups.

Cheers mate, appreciated 👍😂

The matches on LFC TV aren't live over here (in the U.S.) They do have audio comms and i've noticed that steven hunter is better than the 5 Live guys about actually telling you what's happening on the park. The other guys just waffle on about seemingly anything else.

LFCTV can't show competitive games live in any country. It's audio or nothing. At home games, Steve is alone in the box for distancing reasons. There's nobody around him in a 50m radius, and you could hear a pin drop around him. Anfield is a big stadium with a purpose built press box. He should be commentating in there these days, where there's adequate space for a co commentator to be there with him. I know there are restrictions these days, but media is essential work, and club employees should be able to access the facilities on matchday.

Hopefully this poorly thought PPV cash grab for showing poor quality games, will be put in the dustbin at the next EPL club meeting. Apparantly the nutter Ashley was one of the owners who voted for it and is now complaining why nobody is watching them. A blind man could see it was never going to work. It might have 15-20 years ago, but it won't today. He says he voted for it as there was "no alternative". Er, there actually was. The EPL has 4 existing broadcast partners in the UK, 3 of them have all the time and space to fill 10 live football games per week as per their current contracts, without demanding people pay twice to watch them.

Stand together and don't pay, your only lining the greedy bas**rds pockets

2020 is really a twisted year...Mike Ashley calling out Sky & Bt..says games should be £4.99 PPV.. not wrong.