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      Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League

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      Shabs
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #50: Oct 15, 2020 02:37:21 pm

      I do & you should too.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #51: Oct 15, 2020 02:41:20 pm

      Why? You do realize that there are already tens of thousands of people that hate our club simply because we are winning. Who gives a sh*t what other people think?

      Stop worrying about what unreasonable people do or think, it will make your life a whole lot better. One of the biggest reasons I started getting off most all social media. People are idiots and especially now that they can voice their stupid opinions from the "safety" of behind their computers.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #52: Oct 15, 2020 03:54:20 pm
      Why? You do realize that there are already tens of thousands of people that hate our club simply because we are winning. Who gives a sh*t what other people think?

      Stop worrying about what unreasonable people do or think, it will make your life a whole lot better. One of the biggest reasons I started getting off most all social media. People are idiots and especially now that they can voice their stupid opinions from the "safety" of behind their computers.

      I care when the clubs principles are shat on time and again by owners who simply either sont get it or refuse to get it.

      Every ao often from increased ticket prices, trademarking 'Liverpool', furloughing staff and now this they fail to strike the right tone.

      Tone deaf really.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #53: Oct 15, 2020 04:46:06 pm
      Always felt Morientes would have adapted far quicker had we got him in the August when Madrid signed Owen, rather than having to wait until Jan.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #54: Oct 15, 2020 05:33:40 pm
      Always felt Morientes would have adapted far quicker had we got him in the August when Madrid signed Owen, rather than having to wait until Jan.

      Think you’re in the wrong thread mate :D
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #55: Oct 15, 2020 05:42:16 pm
      I care when the clubs principles are shat on time and again by owners who simply either sont get it or refuse to get it.

      Every ao often from increased ticket prices, trademarking 'Liverpool', furloughing staff and now this they fail to strike the right tone.

      Tone deaf really.

      Haven't come out of it smelling of roses have they. The timing of it just smacked of a power grab when the game was in crisis. If they had come forward with a bit of democracy in the deal rather than the stitch up they tried, and also put out maybe a consultation paper or something similar they might've had half a chance.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #56: Oct 15, 2020 08:10:08 pm
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      The real issues I see are that the money men including our owners are driving another nail into the coffin of football fans nationwide,  they don't understand football's origin as a working class sport for working class people,  they are not interested that your great grandpa lifted you over the turnstiles back in the day no matter which club you support,

      Money is what the want and they don't give a flying f**k who falls by the wayside as long as they make their profits,
      At the end of the day the most important assets are the fans, if fans don't go to any given ground, or don't pay any particular subscription fee the money men are fu**ed,

      All football club's fans both from the EFL & EPL should band together and demand what we want, at the moment the tail is wagging the dog,

      The money men want total control as far as I can tell, and again that includes our Avaricious lot, who it has to be said are going against the very fabric of what our club is about,  now there are some good points raised in their plan but like what most are alluding to, it's a total power grab, and that just isn't right.


                                              YNWA

      What do they, the fans, want? A "power grab" and a club to support. Or no power grab, and no club to support? Because apparantly, that is the choice facing many clubs atm.

      The fans, us included, have been locked out of grounds for the past 6 months, and probably for the rest of this season. It's difficult enough for us to deal with, how are they going to manage ? A slice of the 50mn pie won't see them to the end of the season, for some it might not even see them to Christmas. Our club and a handful of others, put forward a detailed and lucrative bailout to safeguard their futures, and make our lives easier. They would rather have their traditions and their principles, rather than make the basic income and expenditure figures match up.

      10 years ago today, we had some complex financial issues of our own to deal with. I was in Graz on the day, and was expecting the seemingly endless court cases back and forth to continue, when I was told the issues had been settled. We were saved in the nick of time. Other clubs won't be quite so lucky.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #57: Oct 16, 2020 08:32:43 am
      Wow we make a proposal then vote against it...stay classy San Diego
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #58: Oct 16, 2020 09:02:14 am
      I see that Neville's got his nose into it now. Ironic.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #59: Oct 16, 2020 09:07:30 am
      On Neville, why would pemier league clubs be expected to bail out EFL clubs? Are we supposed to say we wont sign Jota instead well give that 45 million to the EFL to distribute around the 72 clubs....come on
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #60: Oct 16, 2020 09:35:42 am
      On Neville, why would pemier league clubs be expected to bail out EFL clubs? Are we supposed to say we wont sign Jota instead well give that 45 million to the EFL to distribute around the 72 clubs....come on

      I haven't had a look at his manifesto Bri so not sure how he's working it out. I saw him on sky sports news talking about it and it sounds generic as f**k, form an 'impartial' group to share money, bring more diversity, be fair to fans, all the usual buzz words. I could've knocked something like that up whilst having my morning sh*t.
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #61: Oct 16, 2020 02:04:08 pm
      From today's presser: “First of all I think it is really important that we speak about it, because I can't remember the last time when we spoke about this, the space for improvement within football, in professional football. A lot of times in life there must be a crisis, not maybe a virus, but a crisis for people to start talking, so I'm really happy that people now start talking about it. Yes, it's very competitive and that's positive and nobody wanted to change that. I am not really in it, it's not that I was involved. I was informed from a specific point. But I can say that all the people I know who are involved (in Project Big Picture) are concerned about football. Yes, about Liverpool as well, it's normal, but about football in general. That was their intention. And now other people can  make of it what they want. If you want to understand the idea behind it I think it's possible. If you don't want, then you just knock it down. It's not a problem. We will play on football, before that, after that, but there are things we can improve and I really think that you always really need to improve them now, before you see the realy problems in the future, and that's what these people tried to do. When the process keeps on going and people are talking about it, then it's very, very positive."

      - Jürgen Klopp
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #62: Oct 16, 2020 02:08:00 pm
      Think you’re in the wrong thread mate :D

      Hahaha reckon I pressed back and posted!! F***ing buses and speed bumps :laugh:
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      Re: Liverpool and United plan shake up of Premier League
      Reply #63: Oct 16, 2020 02:11:54 pm
      What do they, the fans, want? A "power grab" and a club to support. Or no power grab, and no club to support? Because apparantly, that is the choice facing many clubs atm.

      The fans, us included, have been locked out of grounds for the past 6 months, and probably for the rest of this season. It's difficult enough for us to deal with, how are they going to manage ? A slice of the 50mn pie won't see them to the end of the season, for some it might not even see them to Christmas. Our club and a handful of others, put forward a detailed and lucrative bailout to safeguard their futures, and make our lives easier. They would rather have their traditions and their principles, rather than make the basic income and expenditure figures match up.

      10 years ago today, we had some complex financial issues of our own to deal with. I was in Graz on the day, and was expecting the seemingly endless court cases back and forth to continue, when I was told the issues had been settled. We were saved in the nick of time. Other clubs won't be quite so lucky.

      Waffling nonsense. The club was never in threat in that court case, plus FSG got us for a nice cheap price. Comparing that to what is going on is ludicrous. It's greed, nothing more nothing less. Just wrapped in an EFL charitable bow.

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