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      AlwaysTheKop
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      Re: VAR has to go
      Reply #300: Mar 07, 2021 12:09:39 pm
      He is literally like only person left on planet Earth who actually thoroughly enjoys it being used, while the rest of us are tearing our hair out at all the f**k ups it's producing and he's still got to go balls deep.

      I think he’s just happy now because he’s known on the forum, he probably doesn’t agree with it, but this gives him attention and the persona of a character on a forum... he just loves being known, even if it’s for being a idiot.
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      Reply #301: Mar 07, 2021 12:11:30 pm
      I think he’s just happy now because he’s known on the forum, he probably doesn’t agree with it, but this gives me attention and the persona of a character on a forum... he just loves being known, even if it’s for being a idiot.

      Already known for being vociferously anti-Rafa.

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      Re: VAR has to go
      Reply #302: Mar 07, 2021 10:55:28 pm
      Quote from fields of anny rd
      Be more than happy to give the goal in the week to Werner.

      I love Liverpool but would rather return to normal football than get these ridiculously tenuous decisions go for and against us.

      This is normal football. You can't give the goal as it's offside, nor should you be happy when an opponent scores against us, as it just makes our job even more difficult. Robbo set his offside trap, (he and the coaching team work on it all the time ) and the opponent was caught. It's happened since time began.

      I've said before that I don't care if I'm the only person left on planet earth who enjoys it. I want VAR in more leagues and competitions, because it gets far more decisions right than wrong. It's about seeing justice done. Seeking justice is never enjoyable, it just has to be done, however long it takes. I think we know about that at this club more than most.
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      Reply #303: Mar 28, 2021 01:55:43 pm
      So VAR (and GLT) has gone for the WCQ, and we see the consequences.

      Goals given for offside and ruled out for being onside.
      Goals not given that are cleared beyond the goalline.
      Penalties not given for clear and obvious fouls by defenders.

      In short, madness and mayhem. It's embarrassing in this day and age to watch the World Cup, the highest level of the game, officiated as if it was a Sunday league game with nothing at stake.
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      Reply #304: Mar 28, 2021 02:32:11 pm
      So VAR (and GLT) has gone for the WCQ, and we see the consequences.

      Goals given for offside and ruled out for being onside.
      Goals not given that are cleared beyond the goalline.
      Penalties not given for clear and obvious fouls by defenders.

      In short, madness and mayhem. It's embarrassing in this day and age to watch the World Cup, the highest level of the game, officiated as if it was a Sunday league game with nothing at stake.

      Proper football then!!
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      Reply #305: Mar 28, 2021 03:36:29 pm
      The way the worlds gone, politically correct, everything’s got to be perfect and perfect doesn’t exist.
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      Reply #306: Mar 31, 2021 03:42:28 pm
      It's not about perfection. It's about justice.

      This is the World Cup, the highest level of football. So if you want to play in your preferred stadium, either the stadium is fully equipped for teams to play there or you find an alternative venue to host the game. In most nations, finding a suitable venue with technology is not a problem, so it's no excuse for other associations to claim that VAR is "too expensive". A wrong decision could cost you a place at the World Cup for at least the next 4 years. That means coaches, CEO's, association staff have to be hired/replaced, revenue will be lost, your domestic game will suffer at all levels. That's going to be far more expensive in the long run, than a one off investment in GLT and VAR.

      The Ataturk hosted Turkey v Holland last week. Looking at the general condition of the stadium itself, as well as Michael Oliver trying to accurately judge disputed penalty calls and if the ball crossed the line from 15-20 yards away, made it almost seem unbelievable that this stadium is supposed to hold the European Cup Final in just a few weeks time.

      This is what happens when we go back to the dark ages and VAR is gone. Chaos, Controversy, Conspiracy, Mayhem, Madness, where players and managers don't accept mistakes and human error, not should they. In 2021, deciding who does and doesn't qualify for the World Cup Finals should be a matter of accuracy, not a matter of guesswork.
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      Reply #307: Mar 31, 2021 05:03:06 pm
      It's not about perfection. It's about justice.

      This is the World Cup, the highest level of football. So if you want to play in your preferred stadium, either the stadium is fully equipped for teams to play there or you find an alternative venue to host the game. In most nations, finding a suitable venue with technology is not a problem, so it's no excuse for other associations to claim that VAR is "too expensive". A wrong decision could cost you a place at the World Cup for at least the next 4 years. That means coaches, CEO's, association staff have to be hired/replaced, revenue will be lost, your domestic game will suffer at all levels. That's going to be far more expensive in the long run, than a one off investment in GLT and VAR.

      The Ataturk hosted Turkey v Holland last week. Looking at the general condition of the stadium itself, as well as Michael Oliver trying to accurately judge disputed penalty calls and if the ball crossed the line from 15-20 yards away, made it almost seem unbelievable that this stadium is supposed to hold the European Cup Final in just a few weeks time.

      This is what happens when we go back to the dark ages and VAR is gone. Chaos, Controversy, Conspiracy, Mayhem, Madness, where players and managers don't accept mistakes and human error, not should they. In 2021, deciding who does and doesn't qualify for the World Cup Finals should be a matter of accuracy, not a matter of guesswork.

      It's a f**king game, not Law and Order!!
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      Reply #308: Apr 10, 2021 07:52:06 pm
      Best bump this back up after the almost obligatory
      Var decision against us.
      Not gonna dwell on ours we've all seen the shambles time & time again
      Citeh v Leeds the sending off, you watch it and a few years ago it's not even a yellow. Enter var and coote at the helm,
      " it's a red, the Leeds player has played the ball & the stupid tw*t hasn't allowed for the fact he can't alter the laws of physics and doesn't stop after he made contact with the ball, he grazed citeh player and he milked the f**k out of it. To prove it here it is in slow mo from a really incriminating angle"

      Life is all about angles & vision that's why we're all different

      I think thiago had a worse challenge on him from Watkins that went over the ball into the shin

      Rant over


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      Reply #309: Apr 11, 2021 12:58:08 am
      What and I say WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WAS THAT???   :f_steam: :f_steam: :f_steam: :mad: >:(



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      Reply #310: Apr 11, 2021 08:59:59 am
      Var should never be judged by a sleve, that just ridiculous. Whatever happened to giving the attacker the advantage?
      How can you be sure someone is millimetres offside by using lines that are at least 3-4 inches thick?
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      Re: VAR has to go
      Reply #311: Apr 11, 2021 11:51:32 am
      It's not about perfection. It's about justice.

      This is the World Cup, the highest level of football. So if you want to play in your preferred stadium, either the stadium is fully equipped for teams to play there or you find an alternative venue to host the game. In most nations, finding a suitable venue with technology is not a problem, so it's no excuse for other associations to claim that VAR is "too expensive". A wrong decision could cost you a place at the World Cup for at least the next 4 years. That means coaches, CEO's, association staff have to be hired/replaced, revenue will be lost, your domestic game will suffer at all levels. That's going to be far more expensive in the long run, than a one off investment in GLT and VAR.

      The Ataturk hosted Turkey v Holland last week. Looking at the general condition of the stadium itself, as well as Michael Oliver trying to accurately judge disputed penalty calls and if the ball crossed the line from 15-20 yards away, made it almost seem unbelievable that this stadium is supposed to hold the European Cup Final in just a few weeks time.

      This is what happens when we go back to the dark ages and VAR is gone. Chaos, Controversy, Conspiracy, Mayhem, Madness, where players and managers don't accept mistakes and human error, not should they. In 2021, deciding who does and doesn't qualify for the World Cup Finals should be a matter of accuracy, not a matter of guesswork.

      Ok, if it is about justice where was the justice in yesterday's decision. 
      Absolute disgraceful decision.
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      Reply #312: Apr 11, 2021 12:02:40 pm
      Var should never be judged by a sleve, that just ridiculous. Whatever happened to giving the attacker the advantage?
      How can you be sure someone is millimetres offside by using lines that are at least 3-4 inches thick?

      That's a very good point OR. On the eye it looks onside and at worse level. With this so called new technology they could put the lines millimetres out and to the naked eye we're none the wiser. I do question the integrity of the officials sometimes with these things.  :f_steam:

      Ok, if it is about justice where was the justice in yesterday's decision. 
      Absolute disgraceful decision.

      Pretty much can guess his answer.  ;D
      It was offside albeit by a hairs width so it's the correct decision  :lmao:
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      Reply #313: Apr 11, 2021 12:18:51 pm
      That's a very good point OR. On the eye it looks onside and at worse level. With this so called new technology they could put the lines millimetres out and to the naked eye we're none the wiser. I do question the integrity of the officials sometimes with these things.  :f_steam:

      Pretty much can guess his answer.  ;D
      It was offside albeit by a hairs width so it's the correct decision  :lmao:

      It really wasn't though. Look how the line for the defender is straight, then look how the line for Jota is angled to ensure offside is given.
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      Reply #314: Apr 11, 2021 12:19:27 pm
      Awful decision yesterday and it feels like we get a lot of these ones go against us. I’ve watched it back about twenty times and I still don’t understand or see why it’s offside.

      I’d rather they bin VAR as football was certainly much more enjoyable before it came in, but presuming it stays then they need to address the offsides immediately. If it takes the VAR team several minutes to draw lines then it’s fairly simple for me, they’re on side.

      They’re doing it the wrong way round in opinion. They look for a body part of the attacker to be ahead of the defender and if so then they’re offside. But they should change it round to any part of the attackers body is level with the defender then they’re on side and it would be much easier for everybody.

      Thought the red card for leeds was a joke yesterday too. We all know that side of the game went out ten or fifteen years ago but that was never a red. Wasn’t even a booking not that long ago. And it wasn’t even a foul not long before that!


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      Reply #315: Apr 11, 2021 12:23:57 pm
      It really wasn't though. Look how the line for the defender is straight, then look how the line for Jota is angled to ensure offside is given.

      I was quoting Norfolk reds post on the last paragraph
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      Reply #316: Apr 11, 2021 12:56:47 pm
      As a side to the VAR system itself, a lot of the fault lies with the officials using it.

      Just seen a clip of the Burnley game just now and Tarkowski practically kicked a Newcastle player in the head to clear the ball and no penalty? Don't understand it. The Leeds red yesterday as well was a poor call, the challenge on Thiago (can't remember who by) was far worse.

      Even if they make a decision regarding offsides, VAR will always be fu**ed until the standard of refereeing gets better.
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      Reply #317: Apr 11, 2021 01:05:49 pm
      As a side to the VAR system itself, a lot of the fault lies with the officials using it.

      Just seen a clip of the Burnley game just now and Tarkowski practically kicked a Newcastle player in the head to clear the ball and no penalty? Don't understand it. The Leeds red yesterday as well was a poor call, the challenge on Thiago (can't remember who by) was far worse.

      Even if they make a decision regarding offsides, VAR will always be fu**ed until the standard of refereeing gets better.

      They introduced var to reduce mistakes by human error, all they've done is introduced a new system for additional human error.
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      Reply #318: Apr 11, 2021 01:07:36 pm
      They introduced var to reduce mistakes by human error, all they've done is introduced a new system for additional human error.

      Exactly.

      At least before you could say 'ah well he only had one look at it', now they get 20 replays and still make the wrong f**king call!
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      Reply #319: Apr 11, 2021 05:33:00 pm
      VAR strikes again, spud v manure dear oh dear, Roy Keane summed it up perfectly for me " if that's a foul we'd might as well pack up and go home "
      The PGMOL even come from under their rock to explain the decision as an unnatural movement, a bit like Son trying to rip his tit off then
      Bloody gets more farcical game by game
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      Reply #320: Apr 12, 2021 12:22:10 am
      It’s actually quite sad how much it, or the people running it, are destroying football.

      Just get rid, the refs on their own with their cock eyes made less mistakes than this ‘technology’
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      Reply #321: Apr 12, 2021 06:40:41 am
      How fkn quick was the check in the West Ham game? 10 seconds?

      Yet they took about 2-3 minutes to get the lines the perfect way they needed to be for them, to make sure it was offside, when we scored!!!!

      F***ing Cu*ts!!!!!
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      Reply #322: Apr 12, 2021 07:09:24 am
      I was hugely in favour of VAR when it was introduced to the football world.

      I'm still in favour of it but with major changes.

      The biggest change must be:

      • No normal refs doing it. We must have proper people trained and doing only VAR.

      Then:

      • Open mic to hear what they are discussing.
        Better all round camera.
        Better rules which do not change mid-season.

      If not improved, scrap it. It's killing the buzz and excitement of football.
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      Reply #323: Apr 12, 2021 08:40:11 am
      As far as offside goes if should be the initial line they draw.. If the player is CLEARLY in front of the last defender rule the goal out, if you need to start using lines up the players armpits and secondary lines that's where the whole thing has become farcical. I think it should be judged on the players feet, it's the only fair way to use VAR
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      Reply #324: Apr 12, 2021 10:01:08 am
      As far as offside goes if should be the initial line they draw.. If the player is CLEARLY in front of the last defender rule the goal out, if you need to start using lines up the players armpits and secondary lines that's where the whole thing has become farcical. I think it should be judged on the players feet, it's the only fair way to use VAR

      Definitely should be judged by players feet and referees growing some balls.

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