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      European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join

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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #875: Jun 09, 2021 06:29:53 pm
      Anyone know where these fines are going to ? Or are they just going to disappear
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      Reply #876: Jun 09, 2021 06:50:47 pm
      An immediate 30 point deduction, would have really f**ked the season up . Lucky escape perhaps.

      There's no way they would have handed out that type of punishment this time around. This was their "warning" and then if it happens again they can then do the points deduction (assuming legally they are able to).
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      Reply #877: Jun 09, 2021 07:05:38 pm
      Anyone know where these fines are going to ? Or are they just going to disappear

      Apparently going to grassroots football  and community schemes.
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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #878: Jun 09, 2021 07:09:17 pm
      Apparently going to grassroots football  and community schemes.

      Otherwise known as Uefa's arse pocket.
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      Reply #879: Jun 09, 2021 07:14:28 pm
      Otherwise known as Uefa's arse pocket.

      I use the term apparently loosely.
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      Reply #880: Jul 30, 2021 09:05:14 pm
      The three left standing are claiming victory in court against UEFA and reckon They need to backtrack on any action taken against the other nine.
      This hasn’t gone away yet
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      Reply #881: Jul 30, 2021 09:09:39 pm
      The three left standing are claiming victory in court against UEFA and reckon They need to backtrack on any action taken against the other nine.
      This hasn’t gone away yet


      It never was going to - there is no doubt that there were will be some sort of super league formed
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      Reply #882: Jul 30, 2021 09:11:11 pm

      It never was going to - there is no doubt that there were will be some sort of super league formed

      100%

      It will happen at some point as all the club's want it.
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      Reply #883: Jul 30, 2021 10:04:23 pm
      Also maybe gives a bigger indication of which clubs were the force behind this Super League idea.

      Agnelli from Juve and Real were the founders as far as I thought and this maybe confirms this
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      Reply #884: Sep 17, 2021 03:59:56 pm
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      Reply #885: Sep 17, 2021 07:05:03 pm
      100%

      It will happen at some point as all the club's want it.

      I’m not sure all the clubs want it, but once it was offered, there were clearly those who didn’t want to get left behind and needed to be included in the ‘elite’
      Sink or swim.
      Can you imagine the cost of continued European travel for away games ?
      It won’t happen without the fans backing it that’s for sure

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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #886: Sep 19, 2021 04:37:35 pm
      I’m not sure all the clubs want it, but once it was offered, there were clearly those who didn’t want to get left behind and needed to be included in the ‘elite’
      Sink or swim.
      Can you imagine the cost of continued European travel for away games ?
      It won’t happen without the fans backing it that’s for sure



      I have no doubt it will happen MONEY MONEY MONEY
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      Reply #888: Sep 19, 2021 11:50:14 pm
      This is basically the Super league.

      I would still prefer a knock out competition from the start.
      Not more group games. So many fizzle out with games to spare.

      But it will never happen. But if it is 5 teams in a group I hope it’s drawn from a hat. If Liverpool get drawn against lichen polzan, mircjfedyer, batamankor and the fifth seed pig and whistle, I will just skip them and wait until we qualify for the last 128 and knock outs begin.
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      Reply #889: Sep 20, 2021 12:20:58 am
      This is basically the Super league.

      It's called appeasement to keep the rich happy
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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #890: Sep 20, 2021 01:41:33 am
      This is basically the Super league.

      Main difference is everybody still has to qualify for it. No legacy slots.

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      Reply #891: Sep 20, 2021 07:26:37 am
      Main difference is everybody still has to qualify for it. No legacy slots.

      Believe there is 2 legacy slots
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      Reply #892: Sep 20, 2021 08:39:28 am
      I would still prefer a knock out competition from the start.
      Not more group games. So many fizzle out with games to spare.

      But it will never happen. But if it is 5 teams in a group I hope it’s drawn from a hat. If Liverpool get drawn against lichen polzan, mircjfedyer, batamankor and the fifth seed pig and whistle, I will just skip them and wait until we qualify for the last 128 and knock outs begin.

      It could be good, but as you say, there is defo a chance of loads of easy games, but on other side of that argument those teams are getting more games v the big boys.
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      Reply #893: Sep 20, 2021 08:40:14 am
      It's called appeasement to keep the rich happy

      Agreed. But not even sure this will stop super league happening at some points.
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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #894: Sep 20, 2021 08:41:04 am

      There is a kind of legacy thing, where if a big boy has a rubbish season in the domestic league, the past 6 years history could still see them get into champions league.
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      Reply #895: Sep 20, 2021 08:53:01 am
      There is a kind of legacy thing, where if a big boy has a rubbish season in the domestic league, the past 6 years history could still see them get into champions league.
      Yep


      If the rules were in at the moment and last season we finished out of the top 4 we would have got one of those legacy spots
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      Reply #896: Sep 20, 2021 08:57:43 am
      Here is the update straight from Eufa.

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      There is a reason that European football is one of the world’s most successful and popular sports. It never stands still. Since the inaugural competition, known as the European Champion Clubs’ Cup, kicked off in 1955, UEFA has continuously evolved and adapted the Champions League to keep pace with wider changes in the game

      To ensure the new 2024/25 format will deliver the best for clubs, players and fans, UEFA based its design on extensive consultations with key stakeholders in the European football community. The reforms received unanimous backing on 19 April from both the European Club Association (ECA) Board and the UEFA Club Competitions Committee (composed of a majority of club representatives).

      "This evolved format will still keep alive the dream of any team in Europe to participate in the UEFA Champions League thanks to results obtained on the pitch and it will enable long-term viability, prosperity, and growth for everyone in European football, not just a tiny, self-selected cartel," said UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin.

      How will the 2024/25 competition change?
      The pivotal change in the reforms announced by the UEFA Executive Committee after its meeting on 19 April 2021 is the departure from the current format’s opening 32-team group stage. The present Champions League season begins with participants divided into eight groups of four. From the 2024/25 season, there will be a single league made up of all 36 competing clubs. This will give four more sides the opportunity to compete against the best clubs in Europe.

      Under the new format, teams will play four matches more than is currently the case. They will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures against 10 different teams, half of them at home and half of them away. This gives the opportunity for clubs to test themselves against a wider range of opponents – and also raises the prospect of fans seeing the top teams go head to head more often earlier in the competition. The new format should mean that there is more to play for right up until the final night of league action.

      How will the four additional spots be allocated?
      Qualification for the Champions League will continue to be open and depend on a club’s final position in the previous season’s domestic league competition. The additional four slots available in 2024/25 will be allocated according to three different criteria:

      Slot one: One of the additional places will go to the club ranked third in the championship of the association in fifth position in the UEFA national association ranking.
      Slot two: Another will be awarded to a domestic champion by extending from four to five the number of clubs qualifying via the so-called 'Champions Path'.
      Slots three and four: Awarded to the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the Europa Conference League (due to start in the 2021/22 season).
      How will the last 16 take shape?
      The results of each match will decide the overall ranking in the new league, with three points for a win and one for a draw still applying.

      While the top eight teams will advance automatically to the round of 16, those sides placed between ninth and 24th will enter a play-off round. Those who finished between ninth and 16th will be seeded in the play-off draw, meaning they will face a team placed 17th to 24th – with home advantage in the second-leg match. Teams who finish 25th or lower will be eliminated, with no access to the UEFA Europa League.

      The eight clubs who prevail in the play-offs will then progress to the round of 16 where they will each face one of the top-eight finishers.

      Do the changes impact the knockout stages?
      From the round of 16 onward, the competition will continue to follow its existing format of knockout rounds leading to the final staged at a neutral venue selected by UEFA.

      What does the new Champions League format mean for fans?
      More opportunities to see Europe’s top teams playing each other earlier in the competition.
      Every game counts. The new league format will ensure that any result has the potential to dramatically change a team’s position, right up the very last matchday. Winning or losing could make the difference between a side automatically qualifying for the last 16, entering the play-offs or being eliminated from the competition.

      Will UEFA's other club competitions adopt the same format?
      Yes. In addition to the Champions League, both the Europa League and the all new Europa Conference League – due to kick off in the 2021/22 season – will also evolve to replace their group stage with a single league. The new format can be adapted as needed to each competition, both in terms of the number of teams and the number of matches.

      What are the next steps in preparing the ground for the new format's introduction in 2024?
      Further decisions regarding matters such as the rebalancing of the access list, match dates, seeding system, format for the finals, coefficients and financial distribution will be made by the end of 2021. Potential adjustments to the format approved on 19 April could still be made if necessary.

      How will the new format benefit the wider European game?
      The changes made are designed to secure the positive future of European football at every level and meet the evolving needs of all its stakeholders. Unequivocally confirming joint commitment to the principle of open competition and sporting merit across the continent, the common purpose has also been to sustain domestic leagues.

      UEFA has also reaffirmed its strong financial commitment to the whole of European football and will initiate steps to ensure that greater financial solidarity will be delivered to a wider spectrum of clubs who do not participate in UEFA club competitions. This will reinforce the solid foundation on which the game in Europe is built.

      Continuous evolution
      Our Champions League and Europa League timelines show in more detail how each competition has evolved, from the origins of the European Champion Clubs’ Cup, which kicked off in 1955, the UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners’ Cup into their existing formats.
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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #897: Sep 20, 2021 08:27:40 pm
      Here is the update straight from Eufa.

      I hate it. Simple.

      For one, it's just too complicated.

      But most importantly, this system is giving an unfair advantage to the bigger clubs. More games means it's less likely a "small club" might cause an upset. Over 6 games, they have a small chance. But over 10? Never going to happen.
      The likes of Lyon, Monaco or Ajax reaching the semi-finals, or even Porto winning? Gone. They are basically making sure no "small club" will ever win again.
      And protecting "historic" clubs? Bullshit. If you don't qualify, you don't deserve to play Champion's League football. Period.

      Yes, Liverpool might benefit from it, but it goes against everything football should stand for. Football is and should always be a meritocracy.

      Basically, it's just the Super League slightly modified and rebranded.  >:(

      Oh and also, they are once again adding games to an already overcharged calendar. I'm sure players will love the injuries that come with it.

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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #898: Sep 20, 2021 08:54:22 pm
      I hate it. Simple.

      For one, it's just too complicated.

      But most importantly, this system is giving an unfair advantage to the bigger clubs. More games means it's less likely a "small club" might cause an upset. Over 6 games, they have a small chance. But over 10? Never going to happen.
      The likes of Lyon, Monaco or Ajax reaching the semi-finals, or even Porto winning? Gone. They are basically making sure no "small club" will ever win again.
      And protecting "historic" clubs? Bullshit. If you don't qualify, you don't deserve to play Champion's League football. Period.

      Yes, Liverpool might benefit from it, but it goes against everything football should stand for. Football is and should always be a meritocracy.

      Basically, it's just the Super League slightly modified and rebranded.  >:(

      Oh and also, they are once again adding games to an already overcharged calendar. I'm sure players will love the injuries that come with it.



      I did say it's basically eufa version of the super League. 👍
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      Re: European Super League - Liverpool amongst 12 clubs to join
      Reply #899: Sep 20, 2021 11:27:41 pm
      Yep


      If the rules were in at the moment and last season we finished out of the top 4 we would have got one of those legacy spots

      But even those spots are based on performance, just over a longer window of time. The other thing teams were in perpetually, with no requirement for  earning merit going forward.

      I don't understand how they landed on 36 teams, and how that translates to a 10-match group stage. Also, where are the additional dates going to come from in the calendar?

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