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      Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Oct 25, 2020 06:25:02 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.

      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know each one of you , who you were,  as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something very special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      *  N.B. This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice. *

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its just one of the best things you can do for your immunity.
      Also the spice Turmeric or better still Curcumin tablets which is the active ingredient of Turmeric. Also black pepper .
      .................


      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      Stop buying Stuff. Thats called Affluenza.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books......

         Eckhart Tolle.  ( Check some of his quotes to start with ...)

         Richard Carlson

         Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. Re-wild yourself.
      The plants and the animals don't know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas ?" . 

      Christmas ? One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.
      Buy an experience ...not a sh*t gift ....for Christmas. People and kids will remember it more

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers in the motor than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... FFS  THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be lying in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your cool buddies be then ... even if they could see you ?
      No .
      The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left behind without the person that truly meant something to them. 

      You die. You die alone.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA
      « Last Edit: Oct 26, 2020 09:39:54 am by MIRO »
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #1: Oct 25, 2020 07:01:27 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.

      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know who you were as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice.

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its the best thing you can do for your immunity.

      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books.
      Eckhart Tolle.
      Richard Carlson
      Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. The leaves and the animals dont know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas " . 
      Christmas .One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your buddies be then  even if they could see you.

      No . The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left without the person that truly meant something to them.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA

      Wow and wow. That really hit home to me. Glad you are staying very positive on what must have been a nightmare for you. I can not even begin to take on board what you must have gone through, but do take on board a lot of what you said, thank you, and for opening my eyes and good luck in your quest for getting better. YNWA.
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #2: Oct 25, 2020 07:19:08 pm
      Did not realise how much suffering you had been through, for such a long period of time. It just goes to prove that health should be your number one priority in life. Anyhow take good care of yourself, I have always enjoyed reading your posts, and hope to for a long time to come.
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      Reply #3: Oct 25, 2020 07:22:50 pm
      He's right on Vit D. It's criminal that this is not widely publicised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSXNGc7pfs

      Evidence too that Zinc is an immuno regulator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvRR_y5i-k&t=1195s

      Take both as supplements.
      MIRO
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      Reply #4: Oct 25, 2020 07:24:46 pm
      Did not realise how much suffering you had been through, for such a long period of time. It just goes to prove that health should be your number one priority in life. Anyhow take good care of yourself, I have always enjoyed reading your posts, and hope to for a long time to come.

      Thanks David.
      Its all called LIFE.
      Gratitude. Make a list. It will surprise you.
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      Reply #5: Oct 25, 2020 07:31:35 pm
      Thanks David.
      Its all called LIFE.
      Gratitude. Make a list. It will surprise you.

      Very fortunate to have many good friends, who are always there for you through thick & thin, this is what is known as real friends, which I know you will understand what I mean. It is what keeps you going in these seemingly difficult times for everyone.
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      Reply #6: Oct 25, 2020 08:23:36 pm
      Wow Skip, I read all of that with a lump in my throat, nobody knows what people go through at times, but I think you are very brave to share all that with us as it's a personal journey.

      I feel very lucky in my life that I've never really gone though anything major, but in the last year I've had some difficult times myself with various health problems and it's not nice at all, you've given me the inspiration to be more positive about things, after all were onlt here once.

      I've also recently started to take vitamin D as well, can't say I've noticed the difference yet, but hopefully I will, I'm very much a summer girl, born in July so love the sunshine, hate these long dark winter days and nights and already longing for March when the clocks go forward.

      It's a difficult time for everybody at the moment and we must all try and be kind and love our fellow people.

      Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us all and I wish you nothing but love, support and wellness.

      Take good care hun.

      Love Cas xxx
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      Reply #7: Oct 25, 2020 10:02:12 pm
      Miro, first of all, let me say, it’s great to hear you have such a positive outlook which will go a long way to help your recovery. Also what you’ve posted, anyone taking the time to read it through, will get a huge lift in these current worrying times. Anyone wishing to take even some of the advise you offer, will only improve their health and well being.
      Well done mate, god bless you, and good health for the future. Y N W A   👍🏻👍🏻
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #8: Oct 25, 2020 11:17:44 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.

      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know each one of you , who you were,  as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something very special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      *  N.B. This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice. *

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its just one of the best things you can do for your immunity.
      Also the spice Turmeric or better still Curcumin tablets which is the active ingredient of Turmeric.
      .................


      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books.
      Eckhart Tolle.
      Richard Carlson
      Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. The plants and the animals don't know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas ?" . 

      Christmas ? One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers in the motor than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... FFS  THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be lying in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your cool buddies be then ... even if they could see you ?

      No .
      The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left behind without the person that truly meant something to them. 

      You die. You die alone.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA
      Hell of a read that mate & so much heart & compassion for your fellow reds .
       you’ve really had one hell of ride & bless you for sharing it with us all.
      your recommendations For a healthier lifestyle also highly recommended,especially the vits,for those that don’t like taking tablets there are lots of superfoods out there,liver ( iron & vitamin d) salmon & mackerel high in vitamin d
      All of these I eat regularly & I feel better for it & plain Greek yoghurt with some mandarine oranges is delicious.
      Brian78
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #9: Oct 25, 2020 11:27:03 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.

      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know each one of you , who you were,  as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something very special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      *  N.B. This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice. *

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its just one of the best things you can do for your immunity.
      Also the spice Turmeric or better still Curcumin tablets which is the active ingredient of Turmeric.
      .................


      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books.
      Eckhart Tolle.
      Richard Carlson
      Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. The plants and the animals don't know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas ?" . 

      Christmas ? One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers in the motor than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... FFS  THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be lying in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your cool buddies be then ... even if they could see you ?

      No .
      The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left behind without the person that truly meant something to them. 

      You die. You die alone.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA


      Right ill do my topic tomorrow so..

      Brilliant post
      jimbo1962
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #10: Oct 26, 2020 08:24:36 am
      at the risk of sounding like a middle class tw*t, weve started making and drinking Kefir for our guts. not too nice at the start but it grows on you.
      MIRO
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #11: Oct 26, 2020 08:46:16 am
      at the risk of sounding like a middle class tw*t, weve started making and drinking Kefir for our guts. not too nice at the start but it grows on you.

      Nothing mct about that mate.

      Its a probiotic and could save your life. Thanks for the post . Keep on keeping on.
      MIRO
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #12: Oct 26, 2020 09:29:04 am
      He's right on Vit D. It's criminal that this is not widely publicised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSXNGc7pfs

      Evidence too that Zinc is an immuno regulator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvRR_y5i-k&t=1195s

      Take both as supplements.

      Thanks for the post Isaac .
      Didn't know about Zinc specifically but that is interesting.
      Co-Enzyme Q10 is another. Selenium another.

      He is right about the financial interests of Big Pharma. There are no big profits in Multi Vits etc and they cost nothing to make.
      Certain people would let the pandemic rip ... buy their shares in Johnson and Johnson or Astra Zeneca and watch those babies fly when a vaccine comes out.

      Prevention is better than cure.

      I once read many moons ago that excepting accidents ...   most "real" cause of death can be traced back to vitamin and mineral deficiency.
      Time to start eating a lump of coal again and to hell what your parents tell you. !
      « Last Edit: Oct 26, 2020 08:41:58 pm by MIRO »
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #13: Oct 26, 2020 10:17:21 am
      Go Miro! Keep up the fight 💪🏼
      stuey
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #14: Oct 26, 2020 01:26:50 pm
      Sorry Skip I missed your epic opening post and have only just seen it and what a read that is.
      We have been in touch over the years so I was aware of your trials and selfishly inflicted tribulations by someone who should have been your pillar of strength.
      Thank you for the invaluable info about mind and body preservation, unbelievably selfless considering your previous ordeals.
      Keep on keeping on mate.
      MIRO
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #15: Oct 26, 2020 02:36:30 pm
      Sorry Skip I missed your epic opening post and have only just seen it and what a read that is.
      We have been in touch over the years so I was aware of your trials and selfishly inflicted tribulations by someone who should have been your pillar of strength.
      Thank you for the invaluable info about mind and body preservation, unbelievably selfless considering your previous ordeals.
      Keep on keeping on mate.

      Hi Stu.
      Yes. You've been there on the end of the PMs between us.
      Socially distanced hugs for you and Liz.

      The Ex ?  Beyond comment and beyond belief if you the knew the real truth . Dream girl to Dross girl.
      Proves that you never really know someone. You think you do ... but you don't.
      billythered
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #16: Oct 26, 2020 05:03:39 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.

      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know each one of you , who you were,  as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something very special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      *  N.B. This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice. *

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its just one of the best things you can do for your immunity.
      Also the spice Turmeric or better still Curcumin tablets which is the active ingredient of Turmeric. Also black pepper .
      .................


      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      Stop buying Stuff. Thats called Affluenza.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books......

         Eckhart Tolle.  ( Check some of his quotes to start with ...)

         Richard Carlson

         Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. Re-wild yourself.
      The plants and the animals don't know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas ?" . 

      Christmas ? One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.
      Buy an experience ...not a sh*t gift ....for Christmas. People and kids will remember it more

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers in the motor than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... FFS  THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be lying in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your cool buddies be then ... even if they could see you ?
      No .
      The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left behind without the person that truly meant something to them. 

      You die. You die alone.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA







      In our lives we meet lots of inspirational people who help and guide you through the tough times, they could be a family member, a real close friend or a total stranger, for most on these boards we are strangers, yet we are all part of the same family, I’ve been a part of this forum best part of a dozen years and have read and replied to many of Skips posts, I would like to think that in those 12 years I’ve become one of Skips friends although we have never met,
      I do know that we are on the same wavelength and share the same mindset when it comes to everything LFC, I suppose we are Red brothers albeit at a distance,

      I knew of your illness Skip, and knew you were in remission, I didn’t know it had returned nor of the new treatment,  I didn’t know of your wife’s abandonment either and that must have been devastating,

      So for you to explain your situation in the way you have is truly inspirational, to me you are that person I mentioned above, to share your experiences both good and bad to those you feel have helped you is just simply fantastic,
      I wish I could meet you Skip, I would love to shake your hand and give you a Klopp style hug, we’ve never met mate, but I know that you are a wonderful human being and the world is a lot brighter with you in it,

      You take care my friend, stay safe and keep those Xmas lights flashing.



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      Reply #17: Oct 26, 2020 05:26:28 pm
      Big love Skip x
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      Reply #18: Oct 26, 2020 06:12:28 pm
      Covid Or  All That Sh*t Going Down.

      Thought I would like to share with Forum members the experience I have been through and hope it helps keep them safe .
      I have previously posted this a couple of weeks ago but the forum Main Man gave me the thumbs up to put it here out front... so here goes.
      Cuppa time . Bit of a long read.

      As some of you know , three years ago in the summer of 2017 my cancer returned after being nine years in remission. If that wasn't enough of a shock I was given a terminal diagnosis  and offered palliative care : i.e. chemo just to prolong life for a while not being able to cure it.
      Dark times.


      A month later I received a call from my lovely oncologist , who called and said she wanted to see me urgently.
      A match of various cells meant I was eligible for a limited world wide trial of immunotherapy a ground breaking new way of attacking cancer cells.
      Only 800 people worldwide were going to be on it.
      When you are faced with your own mortality and that horizon is coming at you ..... there is no question that you wont try all and everything to live.
      I started that September attending every three weeks rain or shine and having three monthly scans never knowing if was still working.

      After a long tiring emotionally draining journey ... September last year 2019 I completed the treatment.
      I have been in remission since.

      No violins please but during this time my wife of 30 years bailed out on me. There were days of pain or denial and nights of nightmares.
      Many duvet days.
      She never once attending on over 600 hours of treatment / transport it was in itself enough to form a part of my petition to divorce her. That completed in March this year.

      During the two years of treatment there was forum reference made to me in the "Whatever Happened To" Thread and Billy 1 bless him let it be known what was happening.
      My Red brothers and sisters as one came together as a family and made some wonderful comments of encouragement that led me to be unable to read them due to the tears I was crying with the love that was coming out.

      There were special members .  You know each one of you , who you were,  as do I , so I wont name drop here.
      You and the  rest of my  Red family were there for me.

      This love affair over many years with my club has made me cry a few times in joy and sadness.
      This support was another time but something very special.

      I want to thank you again for all the love. Amazing.

      Now I  come to what I have learnt.

      Immunotherapy treats the T  Cells in the body's own immune system to attack the tumour.
      I learnt many things on the journey which I would like to share.

      *  N.B. This is not medical advice and nothing in it would require anyone to seek advice. *

      The immune system is the body's own private hit squad. It keeps you healthy by fighting off invaders in the modern day not so much Vikings but viruses.
      It is driven by having a healthy thyroid and gut bacteria that keeps your immunity in high readiness.

      The first thing to know is about anti biotics.  Anti bios may help with an infection but the  damage is that it  takes out the gut bacteria that is important for maintaining  your immune system.
      Collateral damage.
      Anti bios are of course needed and prescribed ( over prescribed in many expert's opinions) for serious infections to give the body a mega hit.
      However your gut bacteria is wiped out as collateral damage ergo your true immune system then is virtually non existent.
      Your immunity does slowly recover and the healthy gut bacteria build up again but meantime you are actually open to further infection.

      So ... how do you help the healthy bacteria in the gut to maintain high immunity?
      There is much on the internet about superfoods to eat but probably the easiest and best contributor is Yoghurt.
      Not the eye popping range of silly injected flavour ones but those with live cultures.

      You will see L Acidophilus  and also B Lactis on the pot.
      Greek yoghurt (NOT " Greek Style") often contains it.  Have a look in the supermarket or actually ask for it. Not the only one.

      All supermarkets stock them and some are naturally flavoured.
      Its just one of the best things you can do for your immunity.
      Also the spice Turmeric or better still Curcumin tablets which is the active ingredient of Turmeric. Also black pepper .
      .................


      Vitamin D.

      I was first treated in Toulouse in 2005 for cancer and it went into remission for a nearly a decade before coming back.
      My oncologist there ...Nathalie ...let me into a secret.
      That was that the cancer survival rates are higher in southern Europe than northern Europe which really could only be down to climate or diet.

      As a nation we still eat sh*t. We do.   Though things have dramatically improved we still eat sh*t processed food.
      Although not as bad as the States the food industry pump certain hormones into cattle and poultry that we go on to eat.
      So as far as diet is concerned you are what you eat.
      You wouldn't put urine into your petrol tank ...( I may have done when I was on the piss every day !)  ....you put highly refined specialised octane fuel to make your car actually work. Many people look after their cars better than they do there own living miracle ...their bodies.

      I digress. Most of us are lacking in basic vitamins and minerals we need.
      Drinking destroys B12 C and D. It depletes the body of other minerals.
      Smoking destroys primarily C in a big way that's why a smoker can look 10 years older than some one else of the same real age.
      Technically both are toxins.

      So food . Its down to the individual.
      I personally take every day a multi vit/mineral tablet. No advertising intended I take Wellman by Vitabiotics . That UK company have been around years , have got the best balance of vits and minerals and comes in a very dated box with some geezer on the packet. Good gear though.

      So the thing we can't control is the fact that we live in a damp wet often dark northern European country.
      When I lived out in Barca and South Of France for 15 years you get sunlight just going shopping , mooching  around town, getting in and out of your car... kids to school etc
      There was no need to hit the beach with the tourists as you were getting sunlight virtually every day of the year.

      Here we get SAD syndrome.
      Nearly all of us are deficient in the most important vitamin as an immune system driver. Vitamin D.

      My local GP only a few months ago was telling me that they did a survey of the Practice patients last year. Nearly all were Vit D deficient.

      Q. When loathsome Trump did his Covid stunt to Walter Reed Hospital two weeks ago what was the first thing the meds pumped into him?
      Vitamin D. Check it out on the net.

      So Vitamin D comes from sunlight and although there are other sources that is the main one. Just 20 mins out there every day getting a few rays is better than nothing.

      I take 3000 IU a day Vit D supplement every day and have done for three years now. That is a high dose (dont go over 4k)
      Just get them in the supermarket or online.
      Vit D is needed by the immune system.

      So its been mentioned about ginger haired people not needing supplements. I dont know enough about that but I do know that BAME people  biologically have low Vit D levels . Why ? Could be due to skin colour and genetics not needing the sunlight vitamin.... until living in a cold wet damp northern European country.

      Thyroid Function.
      This is a gland in the body that its function decreases with age.
      The decrease in function correlates very much as to the increase in Covid death rates.
      Again by taking a range of vits and minerals and a good diet  to help the Thyroid to continue to function and all you need to know about your diet is out there.

      While I'm banging on a bit now about your HEAD space.
      We are all going through it. Wherever you live in the world we don't know what going to happen.
      Will I lose my job ? Will my business close ? How are the bills to be paid?  When is this going to end?
      Anxiety Depression Addiction .

      IT DOESNT F*CKING MATTER .

      Health is now the new Wealth.
      Stop buying Stuff. Thats called Affluenza.
      As long as you've got Heats and Eats that's all you need.
      In this country with a welfare state your needs are always catered for .......but your wants will never be satisfied.

      I'm no sandal wearing new age hippie but I keep sane in all of this by trying to live in the real world ... in the day .... in the breath because thats all you really have .... one breath.
      Yesterday is history . Gone Bye Bye.
      Tomorrow is a mystery. It hasn't arrived yet and there is f**k all you can do about the past or the future.

      Whilst we are worried about sh*t that doesn't matter .... it's like standing on two stools Yesterday and Tomorrow.
      We piss on Today.
      Yesterday ?  The  train has gone . We missed it . It ain't coming back

      Health and Time.
      When they are gone they are gone.  ( Virginity ? )

      Get some books......

         Eckhart Tolle.  ( Check some of his quotes to start with ...)

         Richard Carlson

         Thich Naht Han.

      Books on Mindfulness and books on Minimalism.

      Get close and back to Nature. Re-wild yourself.
      The plants and the animals don't know about Covid (bats excepted) and as the song went " Do They Know Its Christmas ?" . 

      Christmas ? One day. A load of hassle. The Christians didn't want a pagan revolution on their hands so they moved the Winter Solstice Rave Party back by four days. If you can't beat 'em .....join 'em and rebrand it as Christmas.
      Just be happy that you have your health ,friends and family.
      Buy an experience ...not a sh*t gift ....for Christmas. People and kids will remember it more

      Walk in the woods.
      Look at the sky.
      Study a cob web. Get down on the grass and watch an ant.
      Get back to play. Walk barefoot Get back to being a kid again and enjoy what is around you.  Its f**king amazing.
      Its free and its drug free.

      Do what makes you feel ALIVE !

      Last Saturday on Mental Health Weekend  I walked around town with a set of battery operated Christmas lights around my neck. The battery and switch were in my hoodie pocket. It was great cracking people up It gave me a buzz as well.
      I was the one who felt completely sane.
      Become a kid again.

      Anyway to quote a favourite Led Zeppelin track Ive "Rambled On" a bit.
      That's another one. Music.
      I told the ex to stuff all the CDs . Keep 'em.
      I went minimalism. Amazon Prime = 60 million songs. Pisses over Spotify/ Deezer anyday.
      Get an Alexa and give her some abuse. She's feisty and will give it back.
      Get  an Alexa Echo Auto and impress every one with more powers in the motor than a wizard in Harry Potter.

      Get a plant ....get a pet. I've got Billy Whizz. He's a fat over fed pigeon who roosts in a Copper Beech tree every night and has a special branch.
      I say good night to him and don't give a monkey's who hears me. We have deep meaningful conversations.
      I worry when he misses a night on his branch and is out on the razz.

      Enjoy Life .  We've only got the one on this planet as far as we know .

      Stay Safe  Don't worry about the Government. No other country knows what the f**king hell they are doing anyway. Its all new and an unknown. Blind and blind come to mind.
      If you must watch the negative news give CNN ago . The news anchors are brilliant .Watching it is like Mickey Mouse time.

      Take personal responsibility for your own safety .
      Don't rely on Nanny State.  They get it wrong .
      ( Jonathan Van Tam. April. "No evidence to wear a face mask" 
      How many people did he kill by spouting that sh*t ? )

      Look .  (As Robbie Fowler would say )
      If I've given something back to my family of Reds in my verbose meandering above then its only cos you guys were there for me when certain people I expected and wanted to be weren't.

      Remember: When you are out with your mates (or your hens) thinking you are living large being a macho man impressing them without a mask . ... FFS  THINK.

      In fourteen days you could be lying in an ICU ward gasping to breathe for the last time as your lungs fill up .... and where would your cool buddies be then ... even if they could see you ?
      No .
      The only people you would destroy are the people who love you and while you go under finally with the morphine ...they are left behind without the person that truly meant something to them. 

      You die. You die alone.


      Stay Safe . That train is coming.

      YNWA


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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #19: Oct 26, 2020 06:18:51 pm
      WOW !!! Read every word.You truly are an inspiration.All the advice you have passed on is in itself amazing re "biotics and vitamins"
      I wish you well sir.
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      Reply #20: Oct 26, 2020 08:39:52 pm

      Luv Ya Debs.

      xxxxxxx

      Shall we get the forum gossiping ? 

      Remember the Pink Wellies ?

       :roll:

       ;D
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #21: Oct 26, 2020 09:20:06 pm
      Luv Ya Debs.

      xxxxxxx

      Shall we get the forum gossiping ? 

      Remember the Pink Wellies ?

       :roll:

       ;D



      Dunno about ‘pink wellies’ Skip, but there are plenty of pink willies hangin around  :f_whistle:.




      (Pink Willies matter)







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      Reply #22: Oct 26, 2020 09:23:10 pm
      Luv Ya Debs.

      xxxxxxx

      Shall we get the forum gossiping ? 

      Remember the Pink Wellies ?

       :roll:

       ;D

      Hey Man - hang in there and thanks for such a beautifully transparent post.

      Lost my mom, my job, and basically a lot of dreams this year. This one helps provide a soundtrack to keeping going, not that you seem to need it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgeZEdbv_m8
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      Reply #23: Oct 26, 2020 09:25:15 pm
      I think your initial post is a tonic to everyone in these uncertain times. You are without doubt a remarkable person.
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      Reply #24: Oct 26, 2020 09:29:29 pm
      I said that to Sam before. Reminds me of when our Denise got her terminal diagnosis, they had friends over the road, they done everything together, holidays, nights out, kids played together, then she told them her diagnosis and she never saw them again, they looked the other way in the street and everything. Some people are cu*ts.

      And some people are scared. Don’t know what to say, can’t find the words. It’s weird how people react to news like this. They will likely be crying for you behind closed doors, and just don’t know how to approach you. Don’t hate people because they’re different.
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      Reply #25: Oct 26, 2020 11:13:53 pm

      For the Ex for Christmas ?... I wont waste the postage.
       ;D

      https://youtu.be/0BS5lRJfJgQ
      « Last Edit: Oct 27, 2020 06:09:51 am by MIRO »
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      Reply #26: Oct 26, 2020 11:21:31 pm
      And some people are scared. Don’t know what to say, can’t find the words. It’s weird how people react to news like this. They will likely be crying for you behind closed doors, and just don’t know how to approach you. Don’t hate people because they’re different.

      First time I was diagnosed was in France 2005.
      An ex pat BA pilot's wife saw me in local town.

      " Skip darling !  I heard the news !  How long have you got ?!"

      I answered: 

      " How long do you want me to have ? ".

      Ask a F***ing silly question.
      « Last Edit: Oct 27, 2020 12:10:46 am by MIRO »
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      Reply #27: Oct 26, 2020 11:24:52 pm
      I think your initial post is a tonic to everyone in these uncertain times. You are without doubt a remarkable person.

      You wouldn't say that if you saw me on the floor at Wigan Casino.
      Had some great posts with you David re music.
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      Reply #28: Oct 26, 2020 11:30:30 pm


      Dunno about ‘pink wellies’ Skip, but there are plenty of pink willies hangin around  :f_whistle:.

      (Pink Willies matter)
                                                                                Y  N  W A


      Trust you to bring the tone of the place down Billy mate !
      Will reply to your first post ... you smooth operator you.
       ;D



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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #29: Oct 26, 2020 11:41:39 pm
      Miro.
      Compelling post to say the least and certainly got me thinking about you and passed goings from my side. What you have printed says a Lot about the type of person you are. It's times like this we should all stick together and be as one.

      It's only fitting and hope you don't mine me using the famous YNWA as I'm sure all forum members are with you in these difficult times.

      Great post mate.
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      Reply #30: Oct 27, 2020 12:07:08 am
      Miro.
      Compelling post to say the least and certainly got me thinking about you and passed goings from my side. What you have printed says a Lot about the type of person you are. It's times like this we should all stick together and be as one.

      It's only fitting and hope you don't mine me using the famous YNWA as I'm sure all forum members are with you in these difficult times.

      Great post mate.

      "Nurse ! Nurse !  Play me Comfortably Numb. I've just had something nice come out of Madchester "

      Thanks Keith.  I'm extending the truce indefinitely for that...

       ;D
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      Reply #31: Oct 27, 2020 12:21:25 am
      Sit in a graveyard and think about this :

      “It is not uncommon for people to spend their whole life waiting to start living.”

                                                                                                             
      Eckhart Tolle.
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      Reply #32: Oct 27, 2020 01:47:45 am
      "Nurse ! Nurse !  Play me Comfortably Numb. I've just had something nice come out of Madchester "

      Thanks Keith.  I'm extending the truce indefinitely for that...

       ;D

      I didn't fall out with you.  :D Just think it took you a while to realise not all mancs are morons.
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      Reply #33: Oct 27, 2020 09:51:06 am
      Luv Ya Debs.

      xxxxxxx

      Shall we get the forum gossiping ? 

      Remember the Pink Wellies ?

       :roll:

       ;D

      How could I forget them 😍
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      Reply #34: Oct 27, 2020 06:43:48 pm
      This is the stuff that comes along that I mentioned.
      The Noise that you need to filter out .

      Last year Dame Doreen Lawrence ( the late Stephen Lawrence's Mum ) apologised after she had said that racism had been responsible for the Grenfell Fire.

      In April this year she was appointed by the Labour Party to chair an inquiry into BAME exposure to Covid 19.
      Today she uses the same songbook.
      She declares that Covid 19 is hitting the BAME population due to Structural Racism !

      Don't think she is the right person to be handling this kind of stuff.



      A group of Tory MPS in the North of England today are calling on the Government to provide an "Exit Strategy. "
      FFS. !!!
      How does anyone know how long this is going on for or how bad it will get ?   
      Politic soundbites.

      It fills the news bulletins and newspapers. 


      Stay Sane and Safe .

      Don't let it fill your head.

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      Reply #35: Oct 27, 2020 10:11:13 pm
      Skip a tune for you if I may...👍🏼

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFpfTd0EIs
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      Reply #36: Oct 28, 2020 07:43:12 am

      Woah Shabs.

      Couldn't have got that better if you tried.

      Yes. That's about right mate.                                   
      Les yeux sans visage
      ...............

      Now. How's about another music face off? We've done the Prince thing.

                                        ;D
      « Last Edit: Oct 29, 2020 01:15:08 am by MIRO »
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      Reply #37: Oct 28, 2020 10:38:54 am
      Woah Shabs.

      Couldn't have got that better if you tried.

      Yes. That's about right mate.

      ...............

      Now. How's about another music face off? We've done Prince thing.

                                        ;D

      🙏🏼 Ready when you are Skip..👊🏼
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      Reply #38: Oct 28, 2020 05:57:05 pm





      In our lives we meet lots of inspirational people who help and guide you through the tough times, they could be a family member, a real close friend or a total stranger, for most on these boards we are strangers, yet we are all part of the same family, I’ve been a part of this forum best part of a dozen years and have read and replied to many of Skips posts, I would like to think that in those 12 years I’ve become one of Skips friends although we have never met,
      I do know that we are on the same wavelength and share the same mindset when it comes to everything LFC, I suppose we are Red brothers albeit at a distance,

      I knew of your illness Skip, and knew you were in remission, I didn’t know it had returned nor of the new treatment,  I didn’t know of your wife’s abandonment either and that must have been devastating,

      So for you to explain your situation in the way you have is truly inspirational, to me you are that person I mentioned above, to share your experiences both good and bad to those you feel have helped you is just simply fantastic,
      I wish I could meet you Skip, I would love to shake your hand and give you a Klopp style hug, we’ve never met mate, but I know that you are a wonderful human being and the world is a lot brighter with you in it,

      You take care my friend, stay safe and keep those Xmas lights flashing.



        You’ll Never Walk Alone



      Yo Billy mate.
      I always knew you talked a load of bollocks !   
      No seriously thanks for the comments and yes we've had some good raps on here over the years.

      Cancer pushes out the rubbish and instead of life decisions being based on
      Do It ... Delay It... Delegate It  or Dump It  ..... it comes right down to just the first and last.
      BS tolerance and patience can be in short supply and why put up with it?

      You and I are similar over the years on here.
      You being about as subtle as a flying brick and me with laser guided verbal exocets.
      Who needs moderators when you've got enforcers ?

      Yes bud. I am sure we will meet up soon ...as I hope with a number of forum members. I did do a raid into town for the Watford game last December.
      The brain goes sometimes ...like earlier this year when I booked a couple of nights at a Liverpool hotel to be in town for the Premier League victory parade the day after presentation of the trophy. Think about that for a moment. That gave people a laugh !
      I even asked a mate if he had some tickets for the home game when we'd receive it.
      Duh.
      I get away with it. My get out always is " Sorry Chemo Brain".  It can get you out of some useful scrapes.

      Who Knows.
      Our meet up might be my Wake on the Pier Head and as Huyton would say " No Pyros No Party "

      As Pink would say " F**k Yeah "
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      Reply #39: Oct 28, 2020 09:24:11 pm
      Woah Shabs.

      Couldn't have got that better if you tried.

      Yes. That's about right mate.

      ...............

      Now. How's about another music face off? We've done Prince thing.

                                        ;D

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rOcEkb2KkXY
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      Reply #40: Oct 28, 2020 09:45:17 pm
      You psychic ?  Ex had same hair .

      ........................ ..............

      Ok Shabs 

      Theme or Artist ?  Lets get this on.

      I'll put Eminem ... Led Zeppelin or Massive Attack in the mix. When decided we'll go to our favourite thread again to face off in the playground.

      Ideas ?
      « Last Edit: Oct 28, 2020 10:05:06 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #41: Oct 28, 2020 10:07:12 pm
      You psychic ?  Ex had same hair .

      ........................ ..............

      Ok Shabs 

      Theme or Artist ?  Lets get this on.

      I'll put Eminem ... Led Zeppelin or Massive Attack in the mix. When decided we'll go to our favourite thread again to face off in the playground.

      Ideas ?

      Massive attack...I against I...
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      Reply #42: Oct 28, 2020 10:14:32 pm
      Massive attack...I against I...

      You got it.
      Whoever picks Unfinished Sympathy is a cissy ! 

      Great choice.
      See you there. New Thread.
      « Last Edit: Oct 28, 2020 10:20:06 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #43: Oct 29, 2020 08:09:03 am
      Back on topic.

      Dexamethasone.

      That's been in the media and has been in use by ICUs for a few months now.

      I was on that. It is a corticosteroid. Stops inflammation and in the case of Covid helps stabilise the cytokine storm that can happen to the body's organs when Covid lets rip.
      Immunotherapy treatment can go over the top a bit and it will stop any potential "friendly fire"
      It also will minimise mucus build up in the lungs.
      Helps breathlessness but all this is only information.


      NB  *It is a prescription drug.*

      Whats App'ed by GP a couple of months back.
      Said that I would keep the practice up to date with all medical stuff

      " Leave that to me " I said ....whilst he stayed on the front line wearing a Novichok Haz Mat suit  ;D

      I thought ... for the next time I rock up to the Surgery I will go as Kenny from South Park in Hi Vis.
      Then neither of us would know what the hell the other was saying.

      Told him how Dexamethasone was helping in C19 recovery and posted some BBC articles across to him.

      Told him however that you get the Raging Munchies on it .

      Also said that I had many packets from  the Hospital and Surgery ... so  if he saw me lurking in the shadows of the local market place on a Saturday night selling a few tabs it would only be me.

      He said . " You mean Dexedrine ?"                   

      I said " Ooops " ... cut the call ... and thought I should go watch Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas... again.


      https://youtu.be/K89dChsgznw
      « Last Edit: Oct 29, 2020 01:29:13 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #44: Oct 29, 2020 02:15:57 pm
      Yo Billy mate.
      I always knew you talked a load of bollocks !   
      No seriously thanks for the comments and yes we've had some good raps on here over the years.

      Cancer pushes out the rubbish and instead of life decisions being based on
      Do It ... Delay It... Delegate It  or Dump It  ..... it comes right down to just the first and last.
      BS tolerance and patience can be in short supply and why put up with it?

      You and I are similar over the years on here.
      You being about as subtle as a flying brick and me with laser guided verbal exocets.
      Who needs moderators when you've got enforcers ?

      Yes bud. I am sure we will meet up soon ...as I hope with a number of forum members. I did do a raid into town for the Watford game last December.
      The brain goes sometimes ...like earlier this year when I booked a couple of nights at a Liverpool hotel to be in town for the Premier League victory parade the day after presentation of the trophy. Think about that for a moment. That gave people a laugh !
      I even asked a mate if he had some tickets for the home game when we'd receive it.
      Duh.
      I get away with it. My get out always is " Sorry Chemo Brain".  It can get you out of some useful scrapes.

      Who Knows.
      Our meet up might be my Wake on the Pier Head and as Huyton would say " No Pyros No Party "

      As Pink would say " F**k Yeah "




      Mate the only 'Wake I'm interested in with you is having a A in front of it, and we can do it 'Live' with another A in front of that too,
      Besides how can we take the piss if your Frog Up,

      Keep the fight going pal, after all your worthless,





      Oh sh*t, I meant worthy 🤣




                                                YNWA
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      Reply #45: Nov 01, 2020 09:28:23 am
      Staying Safe and Staying Sane now.

      It was going to happen. The month lockdown and as London and Brum were starting to go through the roof in R numbers then there was no choice.
      Is it right that Knowsley and Merseyside will in effect be on a seven week lockdown of sorts after being tiered? A lot of people could get a lot of resentments about that.
      Don't. Cant do anything about it.

      That is the secret at the moment being to accept and take fully on board the stuff you cant change. I heard Sean Dyche this week talk about Controlling The Controllable which is exactly right.

      Like they say :

      Accept the things you cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference.

      The worst emotion throughout of all of this is probably frustration. Being impeded or stopped from being able to do what you want or even need to do. The major drawback to frustration .... it is a bed partner for anger.
      One proceeds the other. 
      Anger at your self ...the world or worse still ...the ones you love.

      We all want to be Superman or Superwoman but at the end of the day we are still insignificant little humans the most destructive species on the planet.
      No other species is as self destructive to their own emotions, actions and habitat than we are.

      Spending time and money trying to change the way we feel. Buying more and more stuff that we don't need. 
      More, more, more to make it all feel better and make it all go away ..... but it doesn't.

      Then the " let me change the way I feel" by another drink , drug  , bet or affair.
      Only making it worse.
      Always feeding the ego trying to be better on Social Media , down your street, in the pub , at work wherever.
      Better car, better house, better holiday more stuff and yet even more stuff.
      Thing is .... everyone is up their own arse with their own problems and the truth is that they really don't give a monkeys about you .
      That's the reality .They've got their own primitive little distractions in life to run after. Illusions .Delusions.

      Look after your MIND in the next month. Remember that 99% of things don't really matter.
      Go back to one week ago today and remember what was your biggest worry that day?
      Or go back a month to the day?
      Most of the future projections probably didn't even happen.

      There is some useful stuff on Mind .org. Its now about keeping mentally healthy than just Covid safe.
      ( You would go to the gym ...)
      Books on Mindfulness.
      Get a jam jar this week. Put a piece of paper in there in each day during lockdown writing on it just one thing that day your are grateful for.

      Christmas ?  One day. Nothing more nothing less. Gone in the blink of an eye.

      However get those multi coloured lights round your house .....or your neck and make the world smile.
      « Last Edit: Nov 01, 2020 10:06:25 am by MIRO »
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      Reply #46: Nov 01, 2020 02:27:56 pm
      Staying Safe and Staying Sane now.

      It was going to happen. The month lockdown and as London and Brum were starting to go through the roof in R numbers then there was no choice.
      Is it right that Knowsley and Merseyside will in effect be on a seven week lockdown of sorts after being tiered? A lot of people could get a lot of resentments about that.
      Don't. Cant do anything about it.

      That is the secret at the moment being to accept and take fully on board the stuff you cant change. I heard Sean Dyche this week talk about Controlling The Controllable which is exactly right.

      Like they say :

      Accept the things you cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference.

      The worst emotion throughout of all of this is probably frustration. Being impeded or stopped from being able to do what you want or even need to do. The major drawback to frustration .... it is a bed partner for anger.
      One proceeds the other. 
      Anger at your self ...the world or worse still ...the ones you love.

      We all want to be Superman or Superwoman but at the end of the day we are still insignificant little humans the most destructive species on the planet.
      No other species is as self destructive to their own emotions, actions and habitat than we are.

      Spending time and money trying to change the way we feel. Buying more and more stuff that we don't need. 
      More, more, more to make it all feel better and make it all go away ..... but it doesn't.

      Then the " let me change the way I feel" by another drink , drug  , bet or affair.
      Only making it worse.
      Always feeding the ego trying to be better on Social Media , down your street, in the pub , at work wherever.
      Better car, better house, better holiday more stuff and yet even more stuff.
      Thing is .... everyone is up their own arse with their own problems and the truth is that they really don't give a monkeys about you .
      That's the reality .They've got their own primitive little distractions in life to run after. Illusions .Delusions.

      Look after your MIND in the next month. Remember that 99% of things don't really matter.
      Go back to one week ago today and remember what was your biggest worry that day?
      Or go back a month to the day?
      Most of the future projections probably didn't even happen.

      There is some useful stuff on Mind .org. Its now about keeping mentally healthy than just Covid safe.
      ( You would go to the gym ...)
      Books on Mindfulness.
      Get a jam jar this week. Put a piece of paper in there in each day during lockdown writing on it just one thing that day your are grateful for.

      Christmas ?  One day. Nothing more nothing less. Gone in the blink of an eye.

      However get those multi coloured lights round your house .....or your neck and make the world smile.

      What an absolutely bloody marvellous post to read and so damn true as well, thankyou Skip, you are a wonderful man  :)
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      Reply #47: Nov 01, 2020 05:03:56 pm
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      Reply #48: Nov 01, 2020 07:20:40 pm
      Shabs .

      Also posted in our MA thread?

      Good place here too.

      ........

      Go check out the thread.  Double post as well


      This is what you don't need be doing at a time like this . I used to ... but that's another story.


      https://youtu.be/AIIovpUQiro
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      Reply #49: Nov 05, 2020 08:21:55 pm
      Hi everyone,

      As promised back when ditched my original account last Christmas, I'm back on this forum! Good to see so many of you still here keeping up the great debate. I feel a lot has gone on in these last 11 months or so especially in a year defined by a global event of such significance...that being that Liverpool are once again back on their perch!!!  :kop5cf8koxp6: :kop5cf8koxp6: :kop5cf8koxp6:

      I'll be honest though, what inspired me to re register onto the forum was MIRO's wonderful thread here. I dipped in now and again just to see what was happening but stumbling upon this thread was wonderful.

      What a great, brave and inspirational post that puts everything in perspective. I recall you discussing your diagnosis back in 2017 but I could never have imagined just how tough it was for you especially the situation with your wife. You're clearly made of strong stuff, I certainly don't think I could have handled such trauma. It really speaks of your spirit, devotion and love of the community around you that you pulled through that episode and can speak so wisely about it as well. Keeps it all in perspective. Well in pal.
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      Reply #50: Nov 08, 2020 03:39:18 am
      Hi everyone,

      As promised back when ditched my original account last Christmas, I'm back on this forum! Good to see so many of you still here keeping up the great debate. I feel a lot has gone on in these last 11 months or so especially in a year defined by a global event of such significance...that being that Liverpool are once again back on their perch!!!  :kop5cf8koxp6: :kop5cf8koxp6: :kop5cf8koxp6:

      I'll be honest though, what inspired me to re register onto the forum was MIRO's wonderful thread here. I dipped in now and again just to see what was happening but stumbling upon this thread was wonderful.

      What a great, brave and inspirational post that puts everything in perspective. I recall you discussing your diagnosis back in 2017 but I could never have imagined just how tough it was for you especially the situation with your wife. You're clearly made of strong stuff, I certainly don't think I could have handled such trauma. It really speaks of your spirit, devotion and love of the community around you that you pulled through that episode and can speak so wisely about it as well. Keeps it all in perspective. Well in pal.

      Great to see you back  ! You've been missed.


      Update :
      A couple of weeks on from the post the media today are announcing that the Government are to issue free of charge Vitamin D to vulnerable people.

      There is no excuse for us all not to use it.   

      ........................ ........................ ....................

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925321/Millions-elderly-vulnerable-free-Vitamin-D-government.html

      By GLEN OWEN POLITICAL EDITOR FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY

      PUBLISHED: 23:23, 7 November 2020 | UPDATED: 23:37, 7 November 2020

           
      Millions of people will be sent supplies of Vitamin D by the Government as evidence grows that it helps in the battle against Covid-19 infection.

      Care-home residents and people shielding because they suffer from conditions such as cancer will be sent enough supplies of the vitamin to last four months, with the first packages due to arrive early next month.

      The move comes after Health Secretary Matt Hancock decided he had to act fast in light of the emerging evidence about the benefits of Vitamin D.


      One recent study found that more than 80 per cent of Covid-19 victims admitted to hospital were Vitamin D deficient, compared with a UK average of 25 per cent.

      Ministers are hoping that greater uptake of the vitamin, along with more effective drug treatments and a viable vaccine, will combine to remove the need for an endless series of rolling lockdowns.


      A senior Government source said that direct delivery to people's doorsteps in England would 'help prevent Vitamin D deficiency and maintain normal calcium levels in the blood and keep bones and muscles healthy'.

      The source added: 'We are going to ensure those most in need of Vitamin D can access a supply to last them throughout winter. There are a number of studies that suggest Vitamin D supplementation could have a positive impact for people suffering with Covid-19.'

      The move will be accompanied by the start of clinical trials to further assess links between Vitamin D and Covid-19.

      Those who will receive free supplies include organ-transplant recipients, chemotherapy patients and those with severe respiratory conditions such as cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

      Vitamin D is a hormone produced by the kidneys which controls blood calcium concentration and has a direct impact on the body's immune system.

      Some experts have suggested that the higher rates of serious Covid-19 complications in patients from ethnic minorities could be due to the lower levels of Vitamin D they are able to synthesise from sunlight.

      ........................ .............

      « Last Edit: Nov 08, 2020 12:59:42 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #51: Nov 08, 2020 03:51:14 am
      Billy Whizz

      Last week he went missing for a night then when he did come back he nested on a different branch overnight.
      I reckon he had been out on the lash . Think he was smashed.
      Ever tried to let yourself into the wrong house?

      Anyhow the next night he is back on his right perch again looking sober ....with someone pretty next to him.
      I'll keep you posted.
      « Last Edit: Nov 08, 2020 01:01:50 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #52: Nov 08, 2020 10:21:08 am
      Great post Miro - although sad it’s also very relatable too, you have given me food for thought which is worth more than any material possession, I love your take on becoming a kid! we should all take time to do something kid like at least once in a while.

      We got your back mate!

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      Reply #53: Nov 08, 2020 02:04:43 pm
      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/fsn3.1858

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299920306439

      European Journal Of Pharmacology .

      Just released  Research Papers on effects of Curcumin (Turmeric) in preventing entry and the replication of the C19 virus into the human body cells.

      ( Curcumin boosts the action of the body's Immune T Cells. )

      This is heavy reading that I cant see anyone getting through them. Simply put it defines the protocol trial success against Covid.
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      Reply #54: Nov 15, 2020 06:10:28 pm
      Seems appropriate on the day that Lewis and the Mercedes AMG F1 team win his 7th World Championship.

      ESPN article (2018) on Mindfulness

      https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25546249/mercedes-focuses-mindfulness-stay-top-f1-pecking-order

      Also BBC podcast this week refers to it.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08y2735

      The whole of the 1,000 strong team at Mercedes - AMG Brackley UK  factory all practice their own headspace by practicing
      Mindfulness and Meditation.

      If its good enough for them ...

      Stay Sane  .
      « Last Edit: Nov 15, 2020 06:17:02 pm by MIRO »
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      Reply #55: Nov 16, 2020 09:26:52 am
      Update.

      Billy Whizz . 
      Lost him overnight. Found dead on grass this morning .

      Anti   Antibios

      https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/baby-antibiotics-linked-to-illness-wellness/index.html

      (CNN)Children younger than two who are given antibiotics are more likely to have a number of ongoing illnesses or conditions later in life, a new study finds.


      Multiple doses of antibiotics were associated with a variety of illnesses in later childhood.
      Babies and toddlers who received one dose of antibiotics were more likely to have asthma, eczema, hay fever, food allergies, celiac disease, problems with weight and obesity and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder later in childhood, according to the study published Monday in Mayo Clinic Proceedings.

      Multiple antibiotic treatments below the age of two was associated with a child having multiple conditions, the study found, with the illnesses differing due to the child's gender, age, type of medication, dose and number of doses.
      "We want to emphasize that this study shows association, not causation, of these conditions," said senior study author Nathan LeBrasseur, a researcher at Mayo Clinic's Center on Aging. "These findings offer the opportunity to target future research to determine more reliable and safer approaches to timing, dosing and types of antibiotics for children in this age group."

      Higher doses = more conditions
      Researchers analyzed data from over 14,500 children who are part of the Rochester Epidemiology Project, a long-term study which analyzes the medical records of volunteers in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Some 70% of the children in the study had received at least one antibiotic, with most receiving multiple antibiotics.

      "Among children who received one or two prescriptions, only girls were at significantly higher risk to develop asthma and celiac disease compared to those unexposed," LeBrasseur and his team wrote.
      "By contrast, receiving three to four prescriptions was associated with a higher incidence of asthma, atopic dermatitis, and overweight in both sexes, ADHD and celiac disease in girls, and obesity in boys."
      Babies of both sexes who received five or more prescriptions had "significantly higher risk to develop asthma, allergic rhinitis, overweight, obesity, and ADHD," the study found. Girls were at higher risk of celiac disease.

      The study found penicillin, one of the most commonly prescribed antibiotics, was associated with "increased risk for asthma and overweight in both sexes, celiac disease and ADHD in girls, and obesity in boys, whereas they were associated with reduced risk for autism in girls."
      1 in 5 children have vaccine-wary parents, which may affect future immunization campaigns

      Another commonly prescribed antibiotic, cephalosporin, was linked to higher risk for the greatest number of conditions and, "uniquely, autism and food allergies," the study found.

      A Microbiome Connection?

      Why would antibiotics have such an impact -- if indeed future studies repeat the connection?
      It's possibly due to the disruption of the bacteria in a baby's gut, which is needed for the proper development of the immune system, neural development, body composition and metabolism, LeBrasseur and his team said.

      Antibiotics do not discriminate between "good" and "bad" bacteria in the digestive tract, killing all of them and leaving the gut without the appropriate microbiome distribution. We need certain bacteria to absorb nutrients, break down foods in intestines and protect the entire digestive system from pathogens.

      An explosion of research about our microbiome has found it can play a role in everything from how we respond to chemotherapy to our brain chemistry and immune response.
      "When antibiotics were first developed and deployed, the overwhelming consideration was control of pathogens. We now realize that their widespread application has considerable collateral effect on the microbiome, which may be of special importance in developing children," the study said.

      "Minimizing antibiotic use can be helpful to prevent antibiotic resistance, but there may be a role in preserving the microbiome based on this study," said pediatrician Dr. Jennifer Shu, author of "Baby and Child Health" and the American Academy of Pediatrics' "Heading Home with Your Newborn." Shu was not involved in the study.
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #56: Nov 16, 2020 08:46:20 pm
      Skip - so sorry about Billy Whizz  :( I know you'll miss him  :hug:
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      Reply #57: Nov 23, 2020 09:24:34 am
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55020864

      Hope no one minds me sharing this.

      This is a story of a girl. A girl who didn't have the money to save her own life until she was helped to get over the line.



      This is also a story about someone else.

      Someone who was told in 2017 that he would be offered this drug Pembrolizumab ...free ...as part of a two year trial.
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      Re: Staying Safe or Get Off The C19 Tracks .
      Reply #58: Nov 27, 2020 05:09:23 pm
      Only just seen this as not been on here regularly the last few months. Some story & glad you came out the other end

      Good times, bad times we all have our share! (to make another Led Zeppelin reference  ;) )

      Keep on keeping on mate

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