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      Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Oct 31, 2020 07:28:43 pm
      Top lad, that is all.
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      Reply #1: Oct 31, 2020 07:38:31 pm
      Well done Nat, didn't put a foot wrong, deservedly MOTM !
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      Reply #2: Oct 31, 2020 08:09:08 pm
      Superb performance, needs more game time and can become a part of the matchday squad going forward.
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      Reply #3: Oct 31, 2020 08:19:20 pm
      Well done Nat was perfect for his role today. I wonder if he is the man for the aerial teams and someone else will come in for the more mobile teams like City?
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      Reply #4: Oct 31, 2020 08:35:09 pm
      The header in the 94th minute, quality

      Well done Nat
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      Reply #5: Oct 31, 2020 08:39:11 pm
      Very good display, impressive. I think we might have a decent 4th choice or possibly even 3rd.
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      Reply #6: Nov 01, 2020 08:57:44 am
      Proper old school English centre half. For a high press team like ours it’s inevitable we will be up against a lot of teams that will play hoof ball to avoid it. Having his aerial ability will certainly do us a world of good.

      Pleases for him seems like a top lad.
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      Reply #7: Nov 01, 2020 12:55:38 pm
      I loved the aggression when he was attacking those aerial balls. Felt as if he was really trying to make an impression on those strikers that he wasn’t going to be bullied.
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      Reply #8: Nov 01, 2020 11:17:59 pm
      Proper old school English centre half. For a high press team like ours it’s inevitable we will be up against a lot of teams that will play hoof ball to avoid it. Having his aerial ability will certainly do us a world of good.

      Pleases for him seems like a top lad.

      Agreed 

      My MOTM. Great display.

      He said in his post match interview, his strength is his aerial ability. That's great, that's exactly what we need with Big Virg out.
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      Reply #9: Nov 02, 2020 11:04:22 am
      Agreed 

      My MOTM. Great display.

      He said in his post match interview, his strength is his aerial ability. That's great, that's exactly what we need with Big Virg out.

      Fully agree but the question  for me is, is he exactly what we need next Sunday against City? That will be a huge test. They  certainly wont be playing long balls and crosses for him to head out.
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      Reply #10: Nov 02, 2020 11:14:59 am
      Fully agree but the question  for me is, is he exactly what we need next Sunday against City? That will be a huge test. They  certainly wont be playing long balls and crosses for him to head out.

      Matip should be back and will go in the team. If not then I think Klopp will play Rhys as he is more mobile.
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      Reply #11: Nov 02, 2020 12:05:50 pm
      Matip should be back and will go in the team. If not then I think Klopp will play Rhys as he is more mobile.

      I think you could be right on Matip however, if it was a choice between Phillips and Williams i would always go with Phillips. Without VVD we lack an organiser so i would rather have a talker on the pitch (which Phillips appears to be) and someone with a bit more experience. It's rare to see a 19 year old CB starting in England and not without reason, Phillips is a few years older (22) and spent half of last season playing senior football in Germany, he is also a no nonsense defender who is more likely to simply clear his lines than play a pretty pass. Given some of our recent defensive troubles I don't think that is such a bad thing either. The lad was superb at the weekend so well done to him, we really needed a performance and he gave one, he also can't seem to believe he is playing for LFC's first team, i loved his interview after the game! 
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      Reply #12: Nov 02, 2020 10:00:12 pm
      Fully agree but the question  for me is, is he exactly what we need next Sunday against City? That will be a huge test. They  certainly wont be playing long balls and crosses for him to head out.

      If he gets a chance, he needs to take it. Step up time and let's see what he's got on a regular basis.

      Matip gets injured every few games, can't count on him, as much as I like Joel.
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      Reply #13: Nov 03, 2020 06:48:27 am
      I'm happy for Nat and he did well vs. West Ham.

      But he was about to be sold to Swansea, in the Championship and something fell through. It's better that he is here than not here at the moment but it is extremely unlikely he has any long term future with Liverpool.
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      Reply #14: Nov 03, 2020 07:35:07 am
      Fully agree but the question  for me is, is he exactly what we need next Sunday against City? That will be a huge test. They  certainly wont be playing long balls and crosses for him to head out.
      He’s not and I expect Matip to start.

      For the other 80% of deep sitting teams he would be good just seen a stat this morning that has us sitting last in the league in aerial duel % wins.
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      Reply #15: Nov 03, 2020 02:02:23 pm
      I'm happy for Nat and he did well vs. West Ham.

      But he was about to be sold to Swansea, in the Championship and something fell through. It's better that he is here than not here at the moment but it is extremely unlikely he has any long term future with Liverpool.

      I agree his future lies somewhere else but now that he is getting game time it can only help him showcase his abilities and hopefully more teams show interest in him.
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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #16: Nov 03, 2020 03:18:17 pm
      If he gets a chance, he needs to take it. Step up time and let's see what he's got on a regular basis.

      Matip gets injured every few games, can't count on him, as much as I like Joel.

      Therefore, we will see him more till January in the League. I won't play him next Sunday since I think that Matip will be rested tonight so will be good for Sunday.
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      Reply #17: Nov 11, 2020 04:04:45 pm
      Time to stand up Nat your time is now
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      Reply #18: Nov 11, 2020 05:47:45 pm
      Time to stand up Nat your time is now

      Going to see a bit more of him than we all thought now I guess.
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      Reply #19: Nov 11, 2020 07:53:26 pm
      Oh Nate!! Can you hear meeee??!
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      Reply #20: Nov 28, 2020 06:05:11 pm
      Another solid performance. Well in lad!
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      Reply #21: Dec 09, 2020 06:35:16 pm
      He could really step up with van dijk and gomez and his performance recently does prove he can be a possible fourth-choice centre back option
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      Reply #22: Dec 28, 2020 01:07:30 pm
      Rhys Williams and Nat Phillips have both done pretty well filling in for us so far, but Nat has impressed me more of the 2. I thought Rhys might have the edge on him in terms of pace, but it looks like that is not the case, so it would be Phillips for me for the Newcastle game (especially as we are really short on the aerial side of the game now).
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      Reply #23: Dec 31, 2020 12:30:43 pm
      Watching the highlights and seeing his yellow card from yesterday, my mind immediately went to this from American football:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixMVuOslebI

      Just to add I thought he performed pretty well. Got turned in the first half and then the foul in the 2nd, but overall was a decent stand-in.


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      Reply #24: Dec 31, 2020 05:01:00 pm
      For being the 6th option in the depth chart he is doing better than you would expect. He's not the problem, it's the horseshit luck we've had with CB injuries this year.
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      Reply #25: Dec 31, 2020 07:21:33 pm
      That's the most nervous I've seen him so far, but I still thought he did ok. Williams looks a bit better in possession, but Phillips looks more solid (and a bit quicker as well - Wilson didn't run away from him that one time he got past him, Phillips just made the mistake of trying to ease him off the ball instead of just staying goal side). So I'd stick with Phillips, especially with us missing a Virgil sized aerial presence.
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      Reply #26: Jan 01, 2021 05:36:24 pm
      That's the most nervous I've seen him so far, but I still thought he did ok. Williams looks a bit better in possession, but Phillips looks more solid (and a bit quicker as well - Wilson didn't run away from him that one time he got past him, Phillips just made the mistake of trying to ease him off the ball instead of just staying goal side). So I'd stick with Phillips, especially with us missing a Virgil sized aerial presence.
      exactly, obv cant expect him to be the level of our other options at centre-back, but he did the job
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      Reply #27: Jan 28, 2021 10:13:15 pm
      I like this lad, not saying hes the answer, but I f**king like this lad, took son nice and clean while playing the ball, well in lad
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      Reply #28: Jan 28, 2021 10:27:58 pm
      Do myself bri,to all intents & purposes  the lad had his kit packed & was out the door
      but he got a second chance & the very few starts he’s had for us the lad has done very well & I personally think he should start ahead of Rhys Williams because I think he’s got a bit more about him & he can certainly head a ball.
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      Reply #29: Jan 28, 2021 10:31:00 pm
      Do myself bri,to all intents & purposes  the lad had his kit packed & was out the door
      but he got a second chance & the very few starts he’s had for us the lad has done very well & I personally think he should start ahead of Rhys Williams because I think he’s got a bit more about him & he can certainly head a ball.

      Think hes one of those that looks like hell be sh*te but he has not done a thing wrong
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      Reply #30: Jan 28, 2021 11:07:15 pm
      Hes a big league 1 type centre half but I'd rather that right now than a bloody 19 year old who hasn't physically developed.

      Nat can do a job against West Ham on Saturday.

      Boy do we need to stop pissing about though and buy a defender.
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      Reply #31: Jan 29, 2021 12:52:11 am
      He needs to play against West Ham. It suits his game perfectly!
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      Reply #32: Jan 29, 2021 03:02:26 pm
      He needs to play against West Ham. It suits his game perfectly!
      There might literally be no choice.  :)

      He plays with heart, a very good quality. But you almost have to forget playing out of the back if he's on. And then there's the issue of pace....as in, he hasn't got any.


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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #33: Jan 29, 2021 03:40:03 pm
      He's better than undeveloped Williams.

      He's old school not ball-playing defender as new style of modern football.

      Play him next Sunday. Come on Nat. He's strong and no non-sense defender.
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      Reply #34: Jan 29, 2021 04:05:38 pm
      Must be tough to see Hendo/Fab coming in ahead of him, knowing they will be missed in the middle, and all the talk that he and Rhys aren't good enough.
      But came on for a half last nite and didn't let us down - and don't think he has any time he's come in.
      Just needs to make sure doesn't dawdle with ball at feet, and will win his fair share of physical battles and balls in the air.
      Not a long term CB, and he knows it himself, all the more reason to give credit where its due to Nat for efforts so far.
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      Reply #35: Jan 29, 2021 11:03:21 pm
      There might literally be no choice.  :)

      He plays with heart, a very good quality. But you almost have to forget playing out of the back if he's on. And then there's the issue of pace....as in, he hasn't got any.




      mmm afoot race between Rhys and Nat...I reckon I can beat them both and I'm 49  :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #36: Jan 30, 2021 04:35:20 am
      Must be tough to see Hendo/Fab coming in ahead of him, knowing they will be missed in the middle, and all the talk that he and Rhys aren't good enough.
      But came on for a half last nite and didn't let us down - and don't think he has any time he's come in.
      Just needs to make sure doesn't dawdle with ball at feet, and will win his fair share of physical battles and balls in the air.
      Not a long term CB, and he knows it himself, all the more reason to give credit where its due to Nat for efforts so far.

      He seems to step up every time he plays. Been damn good in his appearances imo. I assume he doesn't look as good in practice as the other guys, but he seems to rise to the occasion on the pitch when it matters most
      Start him against the hammers.
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      Reply #37: Jan 30, 2021 06:02:15 am
      He seems to step up every time he plays. Been damn good in his appearances imo. I assume he doesn't look as good in practice as the other guys, but he seems to rise to the occasion on the pitch when it matters most
      Start him against the hammers.

      He doesn’t practice lad he trains. Gridiron players practice.
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      Reply #38: Jan 30, 2021 09:42:58 am
      He doesn’t practice lad he trains. Gridiron players practice.

      And ballet dancers
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      Reply #39: Jan 30, 2021 10:13:57 am
      With Fab and Matip out Phillips would be my preference in defence, he is clearly more physical than Williams as he’s that much older.

      Just make sure we don’t play a high line, midfield set up proper to cover his side and don’t expect much ball playing from him.
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      Reply #40: Jan 30, 2021 10:23:33 am
      Will most defo start with Hendo at the back v west ham.

      No choice, but id rather just stick with Philips anyway for now until Fab is fit at least or we do get this fabled new CB. ;D
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      Reply #41: Jan 30, 2021 10:55:42 am
      I assume he doesn't look as good in practice as the other guys

      Jürgen must have his concerns given he was starting Rhys ahead of him for a while there.
      Now it seems maybe Nat is ahead in the pecking order.
      Will see who starts against WH.
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      Reply #42: Jan 30, 2021 11:00:45 am
      Will most defo start with Hendo at the back v west ham.

      No choice, but id rather just stick with Philips anyway for now until Fab is fit at least or we do get this fabled new CB. ;D

      I agree, his passing ain’t great but he does feel all action with his headers and tackles
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      Reply #43: Jan 30, 2021 11:01:22 am
      Jürgen must have his concerns given he was starting Rhys ahead of him for a while there.
      Now it seems maybe Nat is ahead in the pecking order.
      Will see who starts against WH.

      In hindsight, has the gametime give to Rhys over Nat prevented  Nats game improving?
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      Reply #44: Jan 30, 2021 11:41:26 am
      Surely he plays v west ham?

      Was it them he made his prem debut against? Can't remember now but the team was  long ball team who after half an hour started targeting our other cebtre half instead.
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      Reply #45: Jan 30, 2021 11:43:59 am
      Hell play, no choice..Hell be fine to
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      Reply #46: Jan 30, 2021 11:54:10 am
      I think they (staff) see Williams as a better player long term, but his lack of experience has shown up more than Natt IMO.

      so now Natt ahead, for now anyway. ;D
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      Reply #47: Jan 30, 2021 11:55:56 am
      I agree, his passing ain’t great but he does feel all action with his headers and tackles

      Hes just a better more experienced CB, maybe not as cultured so to speak. so as you say, lose a bit of the passing game. but if FAB or Hendo are playing next to him, they can generally cover the silky stuff.
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      Reply #48: Jan 30, 2021 12:01:50 pm
      He’s not Liverpool level, but he’s a no messing around defender, you can tell his only thought is to get to that ball, get his head on it and away from goal, he’ll still make mistakes, this is the elite level, but that’s not his fault, and it’s not Rhys fault he looks like he’s been thrown in the deep end, because he has.

      I’d start Nat out the two any day, especially against a team that will use set pieces to get something.
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      Reply #49: Jan 31, 2021 06:23:06 pm
      Done well the lad. First and foremost he is a solid no thrills defender and that is a base to start from. Surely he is first change from now on if we dont sign a CB.
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      Reply #50: Jan 31, 2021 06:26:56 pm
      Not a foot wrong again. Hes standing up to be counted
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      Reply #51: Jan 31, 2021 06:29:49 pm
      Well in Nat, a better player than I have given you credit for.
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      Reply #52: Jan 31, 2021 06:31:34 pm
      Love the guy. Doesn't try anything fancy that gets him in trouble and just keeps it simple and steady.

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      Reply #53: Jan 31, 2021 07:29:18 pm
      Solid today.

      Well done Nat. Keep it up!
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      Reply #54: Jan 31, 2021 09:24:32 pm
      Played a really good game. Where some players are limited by their ability to read the game, I think his only limitation is his skill. He’s no Virgil or Joe skill wise but he knows where and what he’s supposed to do. He just doesn’t always have the skill to pull it off. Thought he had one of his better games. Well done.
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      Reply #55: Jan 31, 2021 10:00:07 pm
      Played a really good game. Where some players are limited by their ability to read the game, I think his only limitation is his skill. He’s no Virgil or Joe skill wise but he knows where and what he’s supposed to do. He just doesn’t always have the skill to pull it off. Thought he had one of his better games. Well done.

      Compared to Rhys the other week what I noticed was how he stood up and jockeyed players much better.

      I think he's done a good job every time he's played.
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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #56: Jan 31, 2021 10:02:53 pm
      Played a really good game. Where some players are limited by their ability to read the game, I think his only limitation is his skill. He’s no Virgil or Joe skill wise but he knows where and what he’s supposed to do. He just doesn’t always have the skill to pull it off. Thought he had one of his better games. Well done.

      Correct. He simply doesn't have the skill to run the ball up field and dribble past midfielders like Matip, or make the long pass like Virgil, but the good thing is he realizes that so doesn't try to do things that get him in trouble. See ball, clear ball. That's his game and he has done it well whenever he's played.
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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #57: Jan 31, 2021 10:17:43 pm
      Done well last couple of games.

      The difference in age between Rhys and him shows. Nat seems to know his body, knows his limitations a lot better and therefore just sticks to what he's good at. He's dominant in the air and not afraid to put his foot in. Yep he's weak on the ball but as long as the players around him know that and adjust accordingly then we can deal with that.

      Not sure he's the man for a game such as City but he's got to be the man alongside a Fab/Hendo for games like the one today. Been solid enough to deserve it.
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      Reply #58: Jan 31, 2021 10:19:48 pm
      Correct. He simply doesn't have the skill to run the ball up field and dribble past midfielders like Matip, or make the long pass like Virgil, but the good thing is he realizes that so doesn't try to do things that get him in trouble. See ball, clear ball. That's his game and he has done it well whenever he's played.

      Hes played HIS game each time he's gotten a run, and in my opinion, hasn't really put a foot wrong. Not a bad 4th choice CB who can contribute to this team going forward
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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #59: Jan 31, 2021 10:35:06 pm
      Good solid performance think he should be way ahead of Williams.  Rhys is not ready last game he made Rashford look like Thiery Henry the kid might make it but at this moment of time he's isn't nearly ready.   This kid deserves opportunities this season as like most have said he hasn't hardly put a foot wrong in the games he has had and they have been spaced out. So it's not like he has built form.  He is just more ready for this level.
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      Reply #60: Jan 31, 2021 10:36:34 pm
      Done well last couple of games.

      The difference in age between Rhys and him shows. Nat seems to know his body, knows his limitations a lot better and therefore just sticks to what he's good at. He's dominant in the air and not afraid to put his foot in. Yep he's weak on the ball but as long as the players around him know that and adjust accordingly then we can deal with that.

      Not sure he's the man for a game such as City but he's got to be the man alongside a Fab/Hendo for games like the one today. Been solid enough to deserve it.

      Im hoping Fab and Matip will be lining up against City.
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      Reply #61: Feb 01, 2021 04:13:42 am
      Well done Nat

      This game suited you perfectly and you didn't put a foot wrong.
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      Reply #62: Feb 01, 2021 04:57:27 am
      Good solid performance think he should be way ahead of Williams.  Rhys is not ready last game he made Rashford look like Thiery Henry the kid might make it but at this moment of time he's isn't nearly ready.   This kid deserves opportunities this season as like most have said he hasn't hardly put a foot wrong in the games he has had and they have been spaced out. So it's not like he has built form.  He is just more ready for this level.

      I'm wondering what the EPL and Euro registrations are going to be after tomorrow, including allowances for the new boy and Nat. Also wondering if we will see any of Virgil, Joe or Joel this season.
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      Reply #63: Feb 01, 2021 09:36:50 am
      Well done Nat

      This game suited you perfectly and you didn't put a foot wrong.

      Too be fair Ian every time he's played he's been pretty solid. With all the current injuries I think I'd play him more often based on what I've seen...... Hang on a min.,  :roll: I take that back. Nearly forgot I'm a manc.  :lmao: He's sh*te  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #64: Feb 01, 2021 11:51:24 am
      Brilliant performance again from Nat. Absolute Rock at the back just like he was in the home fixture earlier this season. YNWA
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      Reply #65: Feb 01, 2021 11:55:04 am
      Hes played HIS game each time he's gotten a run, and in my opinion, hasn't really put a foot wrong. Not a bad 4th choice CB who can contribute to this team going forward
      I think he does have the ability to play that pass and I think he is a brilliant centre back but with cover maybe coming in will he want to stay.
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      Reply #66: Feb 01, 2021 12:57:05 pm
      I'm wondering what the EPL and Euro registrations are going to be after tomorrow, including allowances for the new boy and Nat. Also wondering if we will see any of Virgil, Joe or Joel this season.

      Yeh it is going to be interesting.    I think Nat deserves to be in the squad.  would removing Gomez be enough or are we going to have to take Adrian out?   
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      Reply #67: Feb 01, 2021 01:01:18 pm
      Yeh it is going to be interesting.    I think Nat deserves to be in the squad.  would removing Gomez be enough or are we going to have to take Adrian out?

      Last year I think we registered two fewer than allowed.  Someone also said Kabal doesn't have to be registered bcz he is U-21. Not sure
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      Reply #68: Feb 01, 2021 01:28:58 pm
      Cruised it the other night. defo ahead of young williams now.
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      Re: Nat Phillips Player Thread
      Reply #69: Feb 01, 2021 02:25:29 pm
      Last year I think we registered two fewer than allowed.  Someone also said Kabal doesn't have to be registered bcz he is U-21. Not sure

      Mmm I suppose we will get the answers with rumours that we might even get 2 players.  But like you say we will get may be an indicator of the realistic chance of either Gomez and VVD playing again this season when the final squad is decided.

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