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      Goals - Do you celebrate anymore?

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      Brian78
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      Goals - Do you celebrate anymore?
      Nov 01, 2020 08:39:15 pm
      Has var killed your enjoyment of a goal? Do you celebrate anymore? Or do you find yourself just staring at rhe screen waiting on the var call?

      Last night for example late goal to win it but instead if jumping up celebrating im telling my son hang on wait for var, waiting on an offdide or some other reason not to be a goal.

      Is it killing the buzz for everyone?
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #1: Nov 01, 2020 08:40:42 pm
      Yup it's absolutely sh*te.
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #2: Nov 01, 2020 08:45:41 pm
      Nope, well not celebrate to the level I usually would, you might get a ‘Get in!’ out of me once the goal has been given but nothing more than that.
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #3: Nov 01, 2020 08:55:47 pm
      On pause for the VAR man ,its hellish totally kills football for me
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      Reply #4: Nov 01, 2020 09:08:44 pm
      Has var killed your enjoyment of a goal? Do you celebrate anymore? Or do you find yourself just staring at rhe screen waiting on the var call?

      Last night for example late goal to win it but instead if jumping up celebrating im telling my son hang on wait for var, waiting on an offdide or some other reason not to be a goal.

      Is it killing the buzz for everyone?


      Killing it for me that's for sure.
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #5: Nov 01, 2020 09:22:42 pm
      Not totally for me as when we score I do kind of forget about a VAR check for a few seconds.

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      Reply #6: Nov 01, 2020 09:24:05 pm
      I feel every time i celebrate a goal at the moment it gets ruled out by VAR... So now i have a muted celebration after VAR has looked at it..VAR is slowly sucking the life out of the game
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #7: Nov 01, 2020 10:15:58 pm
      I still scream & shout once we score but if VAR rules it out I curse the f**k out the ref & officials...
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      Reply #8: Nov 01, 2020 10:21:09 pm
      Honestly?
      No, VAR has taken that spontaneity out of it
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #9: Nov 01, 2020 10:39:31 pm
      I still scream & shout once we score but if VAR rules it out I curse the f**k out the ref & officials...

      Yep same!
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #10: Nov 01, 2020 10:44:48 pm
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      Has var killed your enjoyment of a goal? Do you celebrate anymore? Or do you find yourself just staring at rhe screen waiting on the var call?

      I celebrate goals if I don't think there's an issue.
      I stifle celebrations if I think there may be an issue with it.
      I delay all celebrations if I believe it will be disallowed, until after the check is passed.

      20 of our goals have counted in our 9 VAR games this season. 3 have not counted. So the vast majority of times we put the ball in the net, the goal stands. It's not killing the game at all, football is still as popular as ever. We all decide to watch our games knowing that VAR may have to step in at some point and make a decision. But as we've already seen this season, wrong decisions come with consequences. Correct decisions mean fairer results. If it takes a bit longer to get them, I can live with that.
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #11: Nov 01, 2020 10:45:48 pm
      Yes
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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #12: Nov 01, 2020 10:59:43 pm
      I did when Jota scored the second winner!!!

      My exact words I screamed out were: "Try taking that off us you Cu*ts!"
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      Reply #13: Nov 01, 2020 11:22:51 pm
      I mean there is usually a difference between the goals that are pretty obviously going to stand and then those that could be ruled out. It’s not that much difference to looking for the offsides flag before VAR. I would usually celebrate only to then see the flag go up. Now I’m usually pretty confident a goal is going to stand before I completely lose my sh*t.
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      Reply #14: Nov 01, 2020 11:23:54 pm
      I don't celebrate even when a goal's given, just a fist pump and a yes will do.  The moment has passed.
      Sad but true.  VAR is killing football and making it a laughing stock.

      I just watched Harry Kane deliberately back into a jumping Adam Lallana to tip him in mid air in such a way that he could have broken his neck.  Lallana is unable to avoid landing on his upper back with his arm across Kane.  Kane gets a penalty.  In rugby its called a spear tackle and considered one of the most dangerous things you can do.  VAR has a look and agree that Kane was the one being fouled.

      Utter and complete madness. 

      Maybe I'm off topic but its not just VAR that's wrong, its the game's moral sense of right and wrong.
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      Reply #15: Nov 02, 2020 12:15:07 am
      i am a hollow shell. fixed football games have sapped me of humanity. the 3-2 victory against everton chalked off and declared 2-2 was the moment that broke the space-time continue. nothing will ever be the same.
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      Reply #16: Nov 02, 2020 12:43:50 am
      Iv always celebrated goals like Rafa did. Keep my poker face. Might glance at my watch.
      But inside I’m dancing.
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      Reply #17: Nov 02, 2020 03:43:21 am
      I still scream & shout once we score but if VAR rules it out I curse the f**k out the ref & officials...



      Yep, me too, then feel angered and completely deflated, VAR is killing the excitement and sheer elation you get, it’s the reason we love the game, now, what are we going to do about it, F**k All, that’s what, everyone who Loves the game are saying the same thing, from us fans, the players, managers, pundits even the owners, well some of them,

      Has it reached the point where fans just say f**k it, I’m not going anymore, if it hasn’t yet, it should,
       because I don’t think it will change until something like that happens, what are we talking about here ?


      We’re talking about ppl who have never played the game, that don’t understand the intricacies of the game, don’t have the same emotional attachment that we fans have, making decisions that are killing the enjoyment, the elation, the excitement and the sheer joy of scoring a goal, the very point of playing the game, just so they can be seen as following the rules, this cannot be allowed to continue,


      There is absolutely nothing wrong with VAR in itself, it’s a fantastic tool, the problem is that it’s been used for the wrong reasons by ppl who do not understand football and all that comes with it, and until they rectify that, we the fans, the players et al will hate it and want it F**ked Off !!!






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      Re: Goals- Do you celebrate anymore?
      Reply #18: Nov 02, 2020 06:48:12 am
      Not totally for me as when we score I do kind of forget about a VAR check for a few seconds.

      That's me. I still emote, but then the rug gets pulled out from under me
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      Reply #19: Nov 02, 2020 08:10:48 am
      It's like 2 stages or levels of celebration, one for the goal, then one when confirmed or some swearing if its harshly chalked offside. For example the Mane/Jota goal I felt was a bit iffy in real time so  I didn't celebrate that as much as I did the winner althoguh I was half expecting the cu*ts to find some way of disallowing it!
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      Reply #20: Nov 02, 2020 08:57:46 am
      Good timing for me this thread. Watching us the other night I think I got to a turning point when we got the penalty, usually I'd be yessss! because a penalty usually gets a goal and would've virtually given us a win but for the first time I corrected myself mentally, done f**k all but staring at the telly and just waited for the var to decide whether they were going to deem us worthy this time and that's sad.

      It's here to stay so I'm not sure how I realign my celebrations, do we now have to wait and start celebrating a var decision?

      Exercising a bit of forward thinking I can see the day when referees won't exist, AI will get to a point when it's all done by computer with decisions given via the in-stadium screens, hard to imagine I know but that's the inevitable evolution, total eradication of human error.

      Think FIFA 36 on the PlayStation 14.
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      Reply #21: Nov 02, 2020 09:15:11 am
      Can I ask if any of you guys watch Rugby or Cricket or many other sports with Video refereeing. How is VAR in football any different to those sports. Whenever you have a decision that goes to video referee you have that tension, will it or won't it stand. Once you get used to it, it sort of enhances the celebration in my opinion.
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      Reply #22: Nov 02, 2020 12:51:59 pm
      I haven’t since the winner in the derby got ruled out.
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      Reply #23: Nov 02, 2020 02:36:02 pm
      Can I ask if any of you guys watch Rugby or Cricket or many other sports with Video refereeing. How is VAR in football any different to those sports. Whenever you have a decision that goes to video referee you have that tension, will it or won't it stand. Once you get used to it, it sort of enhances the celebration in my opinion.





      I watch quite a bit of Rugby both Union & League and in both codes they have VAR absolutely spot on, every week in every game incidents happen that require assistance from the TMO, Third Match Official, the referee is in constant communication and together they come to a decision looking at the footage of said incident on a big screen , the fans know immediately what’s happening and 99% of the time they get it right, of course not everyone will agree but the vast majority do and accept that decision ,

      While this is happening the clock is stopped and that insures the full 80 minutes is actual playing time, I wouldn’t particularly want that in football but the big screen and the communication between the ref & var would IMO eliminate all the uncertainty and the ‘what the f**k is happening’ fans experience during the game,
      In Cricket it’s similar, and they have ex players as umpires/ TMO’s so know the game inside out, and again incidents are scrutinised using Slo- Mo cameras, another advantage that can be utilised in football, a prime example was Mane’s attempt to win the ball against Fabianski, in Slo-Mo it shows Mane’s leg go under the keeper therefore  so no foul and that goal would have stood,

      I can’t for the life of me understand why the Technology is being used in such a way that it’s actually making matters worse, but the same Technology used in other sports has actually advanced their game and made it so much fairer.





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      Reply #24: Nov 02, 2020 02:41:20 pm




      I watch quite a bit of Rugby both Union & League and in both codes they have VAR absolutely spot on, every week in every game incidents happen that require assistance from the TMO, Third Match Official, the referee is in constant communication and together they come to a decision looking at the footage of said incident on a big screen , the fans know immediately what’s happening and 99% of the time they get it right, of course not everyone will agree but the vast majority do and accept that decision ,

      While this is happening the clock is stopped and that insures the full 80 minutes is actual playing time, I wouldn’t particularly want that in football but the big screen and the communication between the ref & var would IMO eliminate all the uncertainty and the ‘what the f**k is happening’ fans experience during the game,
      In Cricket it’s similar, and they have ex players as umpires/ TMO’s so know the game inside out, and again incidents are scrutinised using Slo- Mo cameras, another advantage that can be utilised in football, a prime example was Mane’s attempt to win the ball against Fabianski, in Slo-Mo it shows Mane’s leg go under the keeper therefore  so no foul and that goal would have stood,

      I can’t for the life of me understand why the Technology is being used in such a way that it’s actually making matters worse, but the same Technology used in other sports has actually advanced their game and made it so much fairer.





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      I agree the technology is used much better in other sports, but you still have the same situation where for example in cricket you have an LBW which then gets reviewed, at what time do you celebrate? In Rugby a try is scored right up against the side line, it gets checked to see if the player had his foot on the line, again at what time do you celebrate? I see football goals in exactly the same way as the above examples, I celebrate at the goal/try/wicket, then again when its confirmed.

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