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      Re: John Barnes comments.
      Reply #50: Nov 23, 2020 03:23:52 am
      I would hope no one ever gave me special consideration due to the color of my skin. I don’t know if that’s ever been the case but I hope it’s not. That said, I can only do my best to make sure I’m cognizant to never give anyone special consideration based on anything other than merit.

      I disagree with what Barnes said about Klopp, I don’t think it matters what color Klopp’s skin is, I think he was given the consideration he was given because of what he’s done in the past and the person that he’s known to be. I believe I know what point Barnes was attempting to make, he just didn’t make his point very well unfortunately.
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      Reply #51: Nov 23, 2020 08:16:47 am
      I would hope no one ever gave me special consideration due to the color of my skin. I don’t know if that’s ever been the case but I hope it’s not.

      Well if it wasn't it certainly possible now.  Diversity is fine and nothing wrong with that. However, judging by some of the new pundits / commentators that have come into our sport, I have serious doubts.
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      Reply #52: Nov 23, 2020 08:18:03 am
      Well if it wasn't it certainly possible now.  Diversity is fine and nothing wrong with that. However, judging by some of the new pundits / commentators that have come into our sport, I have serious doubts.

      Expand on what you mean Keith

      Who you not happy with?
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      Reply #53: Dec 05, 2020 10:50:37 am
      I was looking for a thread to put the following in, couldn’t find one but this one seems most appropriate....


      ... I watched the Anton Ferdinand documentary on bbc iplayer last night , Football,Racism & me, I know the subject is old hat but this doc is his account of what actually took place, I’m sure most of you know the story of how a certain England Captain going by the name of John Terry racially abused Ferdinand during a match between QPR & Chelsea, I knew something had gone on way back then but for some reason choose to ignore it as just another red top headline, I hadn’t seen any of the footage shown last night before and I have to say I was shocked and horrified, you can actually lip read Terry mouthing ‘F**k off, you black c**t’

      Now in the doc, Anton admits he and Terry had clashed just before it in a off the ball incident and that Anton gave Terry some personal abuse designed to rile him, that is shown too, and you can see the pair chucking their gums, and then the footage of Terry mouthing off his obscenity, this is the England captain we’re talking about(at the time) a stalwart of Englishness trusted to lead his peers for England in international duties, and representing his country,

      Yet, he got off with a paltry fine and basically gave license to abuse non white players forever and a day, and this is the same John Terry seen taking the knee supposedly supporting BLM, which Anton quite rightfully points out, in the doc, both Anton & Terry were interviewed by the same representative from the FA, Anton told us that after his interview he felt like he was the guilty party and the questions asked were a form of interrogation rather being a formal chat, he was given a recording (or part thereof) to listen to of Terry’s interview and it is totally different to that of Anton’s, it was more like a friendly chat rather than a formal serious interview , the FA refused to release any recordings of Anton’s interview, ( I wonder why),

      It all ends up in the courtroom which Anton did not want, and the legal eagles with their establishment ethos( we all know what that’s about don’t we ?) decide that Terry done nowt wrong,

      After all the Tooing’s & fro’ings and some of the settling of dust, Anton still offers Terry a olive branch, this is in amongst all the latest upheaval we have seen regarding the Black Lives Matter campaign & after seeing Terry take the knee, Anton explains how he feels about it but he’s not bitter he believes that if John Terry really supports BLM then he should come out a talk about it, and I think he is right, because if we are to eradicate totally the racist’s from the game this is the kind of opportunity that is as powerful as taking the knee if not more.......John Terry refused Anton’s olive branch....that says more than any words required to explain what kind of man he is and what he clearly stands for....and further more he is representative of the football association he is employed by ! !


      I hope that the powers at be consider /remind themselves that there is a very serious problem within our game STILL, and that the actions of certain individuals within the game impacts on the future of our beloved sport in who and how we represent the game in equality and from all diversities, that will never happen so long as you have your John Terry’s around.




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      Reply #54: Dec 05, 2020 02:58:17 pm
      I fully agree that John Terry’s remark was and is unacceptable, but can you tell me, would we all still be talking about it if Anton had called Terry a white c**t. ?

      Don’t get me wrong, I think Terry got away with what was the clearest example of racist abuse, and should have been dealt with immediately by the chickens at the FA. They in turn were as guilty as Terry by their lack of action.
      Suarez got hung out to dry when there was no evidence, just the voice of Evra!
      And just to add, I f**king hate John Terry with a vengeance.

      Also, I’ve taken some pretty harsh abuse off black guys in the past, and nobody flinches. I say the word ‘black’ when giving it back snd everyone walks round open mouthed like I was a serial killer !
      Need to keep this all in perspective, I think it’s going too far.
      Only my opinion though.
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      Reply #55: Dec 05, 2020 03:13:44 pm
      I fully agree that John Terry’s remark was and is unacceptable, but can you tell me, would we all still be talking about it if Anton had called Terry a white c**t. ?

      Don’t get me wrong, I think Terry got away with what was the clearest example of racist abuse, and should have been dealt with immediately by the chickens at the FA. They in turn were as guilty as Terry by their lack of action.
      Suarez got hung out to dry when there was no evidence, just the voice of Evra!
      And just to add, I f**king hate John Terry with a vengeance.

      Also, I’ve taken some pretty harsh abuse off black guys in the past, and nobody flinches. I say the word ‘black’ when giving it back snd everyone walks round open mouthed like I was a serial killer !
      Need to keep this all in perspective, I think it’s going too far.
      Only my opinion though.

      People forget when that Chelsea c**t racially abused Ledley King calling him a "f**king black b***ard" caught on camera on a live Sky Super Sunday game when no one said a thing. Don't feel aggrieved for Terry, the c**t's got form.
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      Reply #56: Dec 06, 2020 08:36:20 am
      I was looking for a thread to put the following in, couldn’t find one but this one seems most appropriate....


      ... I watched the Anton Ferdinand documentary on bbc iplayer last night , Football,Racism & me, I know the subject is old hat but this doc is his account of what actually took place, I’m sure most of you know the story of how a certain England Captain going by the name of John Terry racially abused Ferdinand during a match between QPR & Chelsea, I knew something had gone on way back then but for some reason choose to ignore it as just another red top headline, I hadn’t seen any of the footage shown last night before and I have to say I was shocked and horrified, you can actually lip read Terry mouthing ‘F**k off, you black c**t’

      Now in the doc, Anton admits he and Terry had clashed just before it in a off the ball incident and that Anton gave Terry some personal abuse designed to rile him, that is shown too, and you can see the pair chucking their gums, and then the footage of Terry mouthing off his obscenity, this is the England captain we’re talking about(at the time) a stalwart of Englishness trusted to lead his peers for England in international duties, and representing his country,

      Yet, he got off with a paltry fine and basically gave license to abuse non white players forever and a day, and this is the same John Terry seen taking the knee supposedly supporting BLM, which Anton quite rightfully points out, in the doc, both Anton & Terry were interviewed by the same representative from the FA, Anton told us that after his interview he felt like he was the guilty party and the questions asked were a form of interrogation rather being a formal chat, he was given a recording (or part thereof) to listen to of Terry’s interview and it is totally different to that of Anton’s, it was more like a friendly chat rather than a formal serious interview , the FA refused to release any recordings of Anton’s interview, ( I wonder why),

      It all ends up in the courtroom which Anton did not want, and the legal eagles with their establishment ethos( we all know what that’s about don’t we ?) decide that Terry done nowt wrong,

      After all the Tooing’s & fro’ings and some of the settling of dust, Anton still offers Terry a olive branch, this is in amongst all the latest upheaval we have seen regarding the Black Lives Matter campaign & after seeing Terry take the knee, Anton explains how he feels about it but he’s not bitter he believes that if John Terry really supports BLM then he should come out a talk about it, and I think he is right, because if we are to eradicate totally the racist’s from the game this is the kind of opportunity that is as powerful as taking the knee if not more.......John Terry refused Anton’s olive branch....that says more than any words required to explain what kind of man he is and what he clearly stands for....and further more he is representative of the football association he is employed by ! !


      I hope that the powers at be consider /remind themselves that there is a very serious problem within our game STILL, and that the actions of certain individuals within the game impacts on the future of our beloved sport in who and how we represent the game in equality and from all diversities, that will never happen so long as you have your John Terry’s around.




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      I haven't watched it, Bill, but can imagine. The Suarez/Evra and Terry/Ferdinand things are what cemented my hate for The FA, and ultimately, the national football team. Ran by a gang of horrible and corrupt cu*ts of the lowest order.

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