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      Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Dec 21, 2020 11:43:15 am


      Liverpool will consider making a January bid for Brighton midfielder Yves Bissouma in order to steal march on the Mali international’s other suitors.

      The Premier League champions remain hopeful that Georginio Wijnaldum, a mainstay of their midfield in recent seasons, will sign a new contract and commit the remaining peak years of his career to the club.

      But with just over six months left to run on his current deal and Barcelona still interested in signing him, Liverpool are steeling themselves for the departure of the Netherlands international and are drawing up a list of potential replacements.

      Bissouma joined Brighton for just £15million from Lille two-and-a-half years ago and the Seagulls believes he has at least doubled in value since then.

      The combative midfielder possess similar qualities to Wijnaldum but would add an extra level of aggression to the Liverpool engine room and would not necessarily block the path of youngster Curtis Jones who has cemented a regular first team spot this season.

      According to ESPN, however, Manchester United as well as Monaco and two unnamed Spanish clubs, are also carefully monitoring Bissouma’s situation and with that in mind Liverpool could make their move when the transfer window reopens next month.

      Brighton are currently in the midst of a relegation battle and would likely be reluctant sellers given they are currently in 16th position and just two points out of the drop zone.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #1: Dec 21, 2020 12:07:22 pm
      I would only buy him if Wijnaldum is certain off in the Summer.

      We have Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Keita, AOC, Milner and Jones. Minamino and Firmino can play there as well.

      I would focus on one good defender. However, if Klopp wants him, alright :)
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      Reply #2: Dec 21, 2020 12:11:32 pm
      Load of bullshit, article states "But with just over six months left to run on his current deal", but he's contracted with Brighton until June 2023.

      Factually incorrect fake news article.

      Anyway I would much prefer to keep Gini for another few years.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #3: Dec 21, 2020 01:04:31 pm
      Load of bullshit, article states "But with just over six months left to run on his current deal", but he's contracted with Brighton until June 2023.

      Factually incorrect fake news article.

      Anyway I would much prefer to keep Gini for another few years.

      They are talking about Gini having just over 6 months left on his deal.

      But the article is still rubbish if it’s from ESPN
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      Reply #4: Dec 21, 2020 01:51:09 pm
      They are talking about Gini having just over 6 months left on his deal.

      But the article is still rubbish if it’s from ESPN

      Ah yes, misread that bit, Brighton apparently want £35 million for Bissouma which I don't believe he's worth.

      Just get that Gini contract done and we're sorted in midfield for the next 3/4 years. 
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #5: Dec 22, 2020 06:34:48 pm
      But the article is still rubbish if it’s from ESPN

      The BBC are claiming the mancs are interested in the lad.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #6: Jan 30, 2021 08:21:49 am


      Liverpool will consider making a January bid for Brighton midfielder Yves Bissouma in order to steal march on the Mali international’s other suitors.

      The Premier League champions remain hopeful that Georginio Wijnaldum, a mainstay of their midfield in recent seasons, will sign a new contract and commit the remaining peak years of his career to the club.

      But with just over six months left to run on his current deal and Barcelona still interested in signing him, Liverpool are steeling themselves for the departure of the Netherlands international and are drawing up a list of potential replacements.

      Bissouma joined Brighton for just £15million from Lille two-and-a-half years ago and the Seagulls believes he has at least doubled in value since then.

      The combative midfielder possess similar qualities to Wijnaldum but would add an extra level of aggression to the Liverpool engine room and would not necessarily block the path of youngster Curtis Jones who has cemented a regular first team spot this season.

      According to ESPN, however, Manchester United as well as Monaco and two unnamed Spanish clubs, are also carefully monitoring Bissouma’s situation and with that in mind Liverpool could make their move when the transfer window reopens next month.

      Brighton are currently in the midst of a relegation battle and would likely be reluctant sellers given they are currently in 16th position and just two points out of the drop zone.






      Can he play at CB ?
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #7: Feb 01, 2021 04:06:52 pm
      Don't know much about this guy, but does look like Gini will be leaving in the summer.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #8: Feb 01, 2021 04:08:01 pm
      Don't know much about this guy, but does look like Gini will be leaving in the summer.

      He's good and could become very good.
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      Reply #9: Feb 01, 2021 04:15:50 pm
      He's good and could become very good.

      I'm not sure we even *need* a CM though.

      If we get CBs in, we'd still midfield options of Fabinho/Hendo/Thiago/Jones/Keita/AOC/Shaq.

      We'll miss Gini though, Keita is injury prone, AOC's form is erratic. Some might leave in summer.

      If both Gini and Keita leave, probably will need to look for that kinda player though.
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      Reply #10: Feb 01, 2021 06:23:37 pm
      I'm not sure we even *need* a CM though.

      If we get CBs in, we'd still midfield options of Fabinho/Hendo/Thiago/Jones/Keita/AOC/Shaq.

      We'll miss Gini though, Keita is injury prone, AOC's form is erratic. Some might leave in summer.

      If both Gini and Keita leave, probably will need to look for that kinda player though.

      I'd be surprised if we don't try to offload Naby in the Summer unless he can prove from now until June he can string 3 games together without injury which is a tall order.

      We'll be in the market for at least one top CM.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #11: Feb 01, 2021 10:15:20 pm
      Brighton signed a young defensive midfielder from Ecuador, so could be the replacement fir this lad in the summer?
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      Reply #12: Feb 01, 2021 10:22:15 pm
      Brighton signed a young defensive midfielder from Ecuador, so could be the replacement fir this lad in the summer?

      I'd say so mate I think Bissouma is quality and £30 million should seal it for us he'll be a very good replacement for Gini.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #13: Feb 02, 2021 07:41:34 am
      I'd be surprised if we don't try to offload Naby in the Summer unless he can prove from now until June he can string 3 games together without injury which is a tall order.

      We'll be in the market for at least one top CM.

      Agree about Naby, but it will be hard to offload him because he's on a big contract and nobody will want to pay it. We may need to loan him out and still pay some of his wages.  :(
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #14: Feb 14, 2021 06:51:45 pm
      Thought he looked good yesterday on MOTD highlights. Well worth looking at in the summer
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #15: Apr 12, 2021 10:26:07 pm
      Impressed again with this lad tonight
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #16: Apr 12, 2021 10:29:09 pm
      Impressed again with this lad tonight

      Yea he's a tidy player with a good engine. Would be a decent Gini replacement although I'd prefer Gravenberch.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #17: Apr 15, 2021 08:54:10 am
      I really rate this lad. Don't know if he is a Gini replacement but more in the mould of Hendo and Fab. I'm all about hard working midfielders in this Liverpool side over players like Naby and Ox. I dont think he will be at Brighton much longer whoever buys him.

      This weekend 2 players caught my eye and he was one of them and and Mathies Perreira from West Brom the other.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #18: Apr 17, 2021 10:55:12 pm
      Looks decent but would be way down the list for me personally
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #19: Apr 17, 2021 11:59:29 pm
      Meh
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #20: Apr 22, 2021 06:46:37 pm
      Not sure he’s a priority. Doesn’t score or create many. Will not displace Fabinho. Isn’t quite in the same mould as Gini. I would rather stick with current midfield, get more out of what we’ve got in that department (and there’s no doubt we can), and invest elsewhere: CB and attack.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #21: May 09, 2021 03:18:15 pm
      Nothing player, Bissouma

      If we can't produce a player from our academy whose job it is just to sit in front of the back four and kick opponents that come near him then we might as well close the academy down. We could get Flanno back to do that.

      Can see why we were looking at Ben White though. Absolute class on the ball. Quick too. Could have been a lot sharper on the Traoré goal though, bit of a Mo Salah fannyish sticking out the leg towards the ball with no real effort to actually block it. Obvs not getting White though if Konaté coming in.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #22: May 09, 2021 03:20:09 pm
      Nothing player, Bissouma

      If we can't produce a player from our academy whose job it is just to sit in front of the back four and kick opponents that come near him then we might as well close the academy down. We could get Flanno back to do that.

      Can see why we were looking at Ben White though. Absolute class on the ball. Quick too. Could have been a lot sharper on the Traoré goal though, bit of a Mo Salah fannyish sticking out the leg towards the ball with no real effort to actually block it. Obvs not getting White though if Konaté coming in.

      He ain’t that bad! Other than Keita, I trust Klopp’s recruitment 100%
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      Reply #23: May 10, 2021 02:59:58 pm

      He ain’t that bad! Other than Keita, I trust Klopp’s recruitment 100%

      Our defence and attack signings have been superb, and Edwards has to take credit for that, assuming he does ID the players. It's really a bit cloudy as to who is primarily responsible for the targets. Let's go along with the Edwards theory, because I don't think there's any way in the world that Klopp wanted Kostas and Ben Davies. Edwards just bought them for him (and rightly so, we needed a backup LB, it's just Klopp prefers to use Milner).

      It's midfield where it gets patchy. Edwards seems to buy players and then Klopp has to work out what to do with them. I'm guessing most of our midfield signings were what Juergen might call "a nice headache to have" in terms of how to fit them in. But we're not using Thiago properly IMO, he should be a deep lying playmaker like he was at Bayern. Gini got converted from quite a naturally attacking player into what Keita's agent provocatively called "a scavenger". Ox is never a centre mid in a million years and he doesn't seem to have a position in our system that suits him so should just be told to find another club; he'd be fine on the right side of a 4-4-2 for the likes of Southampton. Keita probably made sense at the time but has been unlucky, but now also needs moving on. That only leaves Fabinho that made sense and still kind of makes sense, although I'd prefer Thiago in his position if possible, he runs games from there, he'd be a more positive selection. Oh and if Edwards brought Milner in then that's a massive tick; what a positive presence Millie's been for us, and for £0. Future manager?

      We don't need this Bissouma lad and he'd cost a mint when you can buy this type of player for peanuts if you've got decent scouts, all these players do is sit in front of the back 4 and kick people that come near them. If he's as good at it as Mascherano, who was genuine world class at it, then fair enough, £40m, but if he isn't then there'll be someone just as good as Bissouma out there playing for Basel or someone that we could pick up for 1/10th of the price. Sevilla could buy an entire team for £40m and still finish top 4.

      If I were Klopp I'd go to Edwards and say listen fella, hats off to you for the defensive and attacking signings, keep up the great work, but I want more say in the midfield signings because you're not quite cutting the mustard.

      It might be cos midfielder is more complex role than defending or attacking, where you're just keeping the ball out of the net, or sticking it in. Midfielders have to do both jobs, and run the game. Not sure a stats-based approach to recruitment works quite so well for midfielders. It's almost impossible to produce a stat that reflects a player's ability to be in the right position of the field at the right time and do the right thing. You need a manager's/coach's eye for that.

      It's to Klopp's eternal credit that he's taken what is to a certain extent squarish pegs in roundish holes and somehow got 2 near-100 point seasons out of these midfielders. Magician. Helps when you've got the extraordinary captaincy of Jordan Henderson of course, but he's only the man and captain he is because Klopp inspired him to be, I'm sure of that. Not forgetting Millie, who I really hope will go on to be manager for us one day, if he can prove himself on the managerial ladder first.
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      Re: Yves Bissouma (Brighton)
      Reply #24: May 10, 2021 06:18:38 pm
      Our defence and attack signings have been superb, and Edwards has to take credit for that, assuming he does ID the players. It's really a bit cloudy as to who is primarily responsible for the targets. Let's go along with the Edwards theory, because I don't think there's any way in the world that Klopp wanted Kostas and Ben Davies. Edwards just bought them for him (and rightly so, we needed a backup LB, it's just Klopp prefers to use Milner).

      It's midfield where it gets patchy. Edwards seems to buy players and then Klopp has to work out what to do with them. I'm guessing most of our midfield signings were what Juergen might call "a nice headache to have" in terms of how to fit them in. But we're not using Thiago properly IMO, he should be a deep lying playmaker like he was at Bayern. Gini got converted from quite a naturally attacking player into what Keita's agent provocatively called "a scavenger". Ox is never a centre mid in a million years and he doesn't seem to have a position in our system that suits him so should just be told to find another club; he'd be fine on the right side of a 4-4-2 for the likes of Southampton. Keita probably made sense at the time but has been unlucky, but now also needs moving on. That only leaves Fabinho that made sense and still kind of makes sense, although I'd prefer Thiago in his position if possible, he runs games from there, he'd be a more positive selection. Oh and if Edwards brought Milner in then that's a massive tick; what a positive presence Millie's been for us, and for £0. Future manager?

      We don't need this Bissouma lad and he'd cost a mint when you can buy this type of player for peanuts if you've got decent scouts, all these players do is sit in front of the back 4 and kick people that come near them. If he's as good at it as Mascherano, who was genuine world class at it, then fair enough, £40m, but if he isn't then there'll be someone just as good as Bissouma out there playing for Basel or someone that we could pick up for 1/10th of the price. Sevilla could buy an entire team for £40m and still finish top 4.

      If I were Klopp I'd go to Edwards and say listen fella, hats off to you for the defensive and attacking signings, keep up the great work, but I want more say in the midfield signings because you're not quite cutting the mustard.

      It might be cos midfielder is more complex role than defending or attacking, where you're just keeping the ball out of the net, or sticking it in. Midfielders have to do both jobs, and run the game. Not sure a stats-based approach to recruitment works quite so well for midfielders. It's almost impossible to produce a stat that reflects a player's ability to be in the right position of the field at the right time and do the right thing. You need a manager's/coach's eye for that.

      It's to Klopp's eternal credit that he's taken what is to a certain extent squarish pegs in roundish holes and somehow got 2 near-100 point seasons out of these midfielders. Magician. Helps when you've got the extraordinary captaincy of Jordan Henderson of course, but he's only the man and captain he is because Klopp inspired him to be, I'm sure of that. Not forgetting Millie, who I really hope will go on to be manager for us one day, if he can prove himself on the managerial ladder first.

      Klopp has said time and time again, that it is a joint effort.

      Edwards is head of a large analytics team that identifies players that Klopp needs for each position.
      Klopp then makes the final decision.

      All your post has done is confirm that you don't understand Klopp's system.

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