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      Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Dec 28, 2020 07:50:30 am
      Starting the pre match thread for Wednesday because I am totally over the West Brom match.

      I would hope the 11 who started would all want to start again (Matip will be out for several weeks). Jürgen may want to rotate with another match next Monday, but I wouldn't be surprised at only Matip coming out of the team.

      Now, will Henderson drop to the back line, or will we see Rhys Williams or Nat Phillips step into the team?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #1: Dec 28, 2020 09:52:52 am
      Will be interesting. January looks like a difficult month so we could do with gaining some momentum.

      Alison
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      Gini
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      Ox

      Salah
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      We have 5 days before Southampton so players shouldn’t need too much in the way of resting. After Southampton we have the FA cup where everyone can get a rest except for folk who need minutes like Thiago and keita and origi etc.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #2: Dec 28, 2020 10:40:48 am
      Interesting that the next two games we play after everyone else. Hopefully that might give them all a kick up the arse as they see teams moving closer.

      Newcastle have been a bit hot and cold this season but mostly cold.

      Of all these three games this is surely the certain three pointer. Centre back roulette again though: Williams, Phillips or Henderson?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #3: Dec 28, 2020 11:14:23 am
      Interesting that the next two games we play after everyone else. Hopefully that might give them all a kick up the arse as they see teams moving closer.

      Newcastle have been a bit hot and cold this season but mostly cold.

      Of all these three games this is surely the certain three pointer. Centre back roulette again though: Williams, Phillips or Henderson?

      Almost wondering if Phillips is about to leave. I know it seems counterintuitive given our injuries but he was apparently about to be sold to a Championship side and it fell through. Seems like he's behind Williams now and we've even seen Henderson play there ahead of him. I say this only if we are bringing a front line player in
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #4: Dec 28, 2020 11:16:17 am
      Will be interesting. January looks like a difficult month so we could do with gaining some momentum.

      Alison
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      We have 5 days before Southampton so players shouldn’t need too much in the way of resting. After Southampton we have the FA cup where everyone can get a rest except for folk who need minutes like Thiago and keita and origi etc.

      Hoping for a good response. Do you think yesterday was more physical or mental for us?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #5: Dec 28, 2020 11:22:24 am
      Almost wondering if Phillips is about to leave. I know it seems counterintuitive given our injuries but he was apparently about to be sold to a Championship side and it fell through. Seems like he's behind Williams now and we've even seen Henderson play there ahead of him. I say this only if we are bringing a front line player in

      Hahaha imagine we actually well a CB this window.

      Surely surely not.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #6: Dec 28, 2020 11:24:58 am
      Cant see the team changing much, Williams will probably start at CB, possibly the ox to get a start ahead of jones.

      Few more options from the bench now, with guys like shaq on the bench.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #7: Dec 28, 2020 05:22:47 pm
      Hoping for a good response. Do you think yesterday was more physical or mental for us?

      Good question. I think the injuries and non stop fixtures have resulted in us looking tired. It must be taking its toll mentally.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #8: Dec 28, 2020 07:07:50 pm
      Looking forward to this game and putting Brom's sh*t show behind us. Jones rides the bench and Ox comes in. The rest of the lineup makes itself.
       
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #9: Dec 28, 2020 07:27:50 pm
      Again, as I said pre WBA game, any win will suffice. We have seen 2 more rivals drop points today and 2 more have a game postponed. Win this sets us up nicely.

      Get over this then the saints set up the utd game then as a massive 6 pointer

      Scrappy 1 nil will do here
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #10: Dec 28, 2020 09:50:32 pm
      Leicester and Chelsea both drop points, again.

      So another chance to separate from these two. Let's do it this time.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #11: Dec 28, 2020 10:05:51 pm
      Just win, Newcastle are f**king awful!!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #12: Dec 28, 2020 10:54:58 pm
      Any chance Thiago for this one?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #13: Dec 28, 2020 11:19:02 pm

      Love the optimism, but there's probably a higher chance of me playing in this game than Thiago. I'd be impressed if he's a go against United but certainly not holding my breath on it.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #14: Dec 28, 2020 11:42:22 pm
      Just get the three points.
      If the setup isnt working on the day, f**king change it before 80+ minutes !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #15: Dec 28, 2020 11:47:50 pm
      Love the optimism, but there's probably a higher chance of me playing in this game than Thiago. I'd be impressed if he's a go against United but certainly not holding my breath on it.

      Back For Southampton if not Newcastle
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #16: Dec 29, 2020 12:04:01 am
      Back For Southampton if not Newcastle

      Has he yet participated in any full (contact) training?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #17: Dec 29, 2020 09:50:56 am
      Leicester and Chelsea both drop points, again.

      So another chance to separate from these two. Let's do it this time.


      Not sure if its too early for a topic on the title battle but this shows again the mad season it is. And highlights the madness of the carry on from some here on Sunday night.

      For me the winning of this title will come down to results of games between the top 7, the current top 8 minus Villa who I think will fall off.

      So far in the games played between the top 7 the rable reads

      Liverpool 11/15
      Everton 10/15
      Spurs 7/18
      Leicester 7/15
      united 6/15
      City 2/12
      Chelsea 2/12

      The games left v each other

      Liverpool v united H, Spurs A, City H, Leicester A, Everton H, Chelsea H, united A

      Everton v Leicester H, united A, Liverpool A, Chelsea A, Spurs H, City A

      City v Chelsea A, lpool A, spurs H, united H, leicester A, Chelsea H, Everton H

      Utd v Liverpool.A, Everton H, Chelsea A, City A, Spurs A, Liverpool H Leicester H

      Leicester v Chelsea H, Everton A, Liverpol H, City H, united A, Chelsea A, Spurs H

      Spurs v Liverpool H, Chelsea H, City A,united H, Everton A, Leicester A

      Chelsea v city H, Leicester A, Spurs A, united H, Everton H, Liverpool A,, City A, Leicester H

      Everton v city to be rescheduled
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #18: Dec 29, 2020 10:37:34 am
      Going for a 2  0 win away at Newcastle. Sticking my neck out by predicting Curtis Jones scoring one of the goals !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #19: Dec 29, 2020 10:45:19 am
      Newcastle? The score will be 4-3 or 3-4. :mad:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #20: Dec 29, 2020 10:48:53 am
      Forget what Newcastle are and what we are. This will be a much changed side and the value is probably with Newcastle because their back up defenders will be senior pros.

      Another game in 3 day. I'm expecting changes at the back, middle and front but the back line can't handle it.
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      Reply #21: Dec 29, 2020 11:29:40 am
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #22: Dec 29, 2020 11:32:52 am
      Again, as I said pre WBA game, any win will suffice. We have seen 2 more rivals drop points today and 2 more have a game postponed. Win this sets us up nicely.

      Get over this then the saints set up the utd game then as a massive 6 pointer

      Scrappy 1 nil will do here

      No more 1-0s please. 7-0 is better for my heart and mood.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #23: Dec 29, 2020 11:33:33 am
      Thiago coming back would be handy so we can rotate that midfield three a bit more, felt the minutes caught up with the three that played on Sunday. Ox will help in this regard too and I can see him starting tomorrow.

      Can see Minamino coming in for one of the front three (should have come on against West Brom IMO) and it's a toss up for whoever partners Fab.

      The next two will be very tricky games, just hope we can find some of the grit from last season and dig out six points.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #24: Dec 29, 2020 12:31:49 pm
      Just win the f**king thing. Read last week before the WBA game that up until that point of the season Newcastle were the side with lowest possession and deepest setup in the league. Could be a carbon copy of the 6-4-0 formation we saw the other day.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #25: Dec 29, 2020 01:01:59 pm
      I want to see a positive response, and I fully expect one. Intensity for the full 90 mins please. 3-0 liverpool.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #26: Dec 29, 2020 01:21:26 pm
      Thiago coming back would be handy so we can rotate that midfield three a bit more, felt the minutes caught up with the three that played on Sunday. Ox will help in this regard too and I can see him starting tomorrow.

      Can see Minamino coming in for one of the front three (should have come on against West Brom IMO) and it's a toss up for whoever partners Fab.

      The next two will be very tricky games, just hope we can find some of the grit from last season and dig out six points.

      Bloody hell if Newcastle is a tricky game then we really have issues. I fancy us to beat the barcodes without too much trouble
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #27: Dec 29, 2020 01:49:08 pm
      Bloody hell if Newcastle is a tricky game then we really have issues. I fancy us to beat the barcodes without too much trouble

      Pretty sure a lot of people were saying that before Fulham, Brighton and WBA and we didn't win a single one of them!

      They're all tricky for us right now. No shame in that either, points being dropped by everyone at the moment. Just have to become the side that clicks and puts a run together.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #28: Dec 29, 2020 01:53:30 pm
      Pretty sure a lot of people were saying that before Fulham, Brighton and WBA and we didn't win a single one of them!

      They're all tricky for us right now. No shame in that either, points being dropped by everyone at the moment. Just have to become the side that clicks and puts a run together.

      Win against Newcastle and we will have gotten 10 out of the last 12 possible points. No one would be against that over any 4 game period.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #29: Dec 29, 2020 01:56:31 pm
      I think we should beat Newcastle. But they probably have a better first team than wba, Fulham and Brighton. So we need to take our chances and maybe change things around earlier if things are not going to plan.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #30: Dec 29, 2020 02:14:18 pm
      Theory !! Our players "getting up" for teams like Newcastle.Then Newcastle etc "getting up" for Liverpool.

      Last year there was never a doubt we got up for all comers.This season seems like a "bit" of a problem

      Even personally as a keen amateur back in the day.I'm sure we used to get "stuffed" occasionally by teams sitting at the bottom of our league.

      Them low tabled teams often (and do) turn it on against the top tabled teams.

      Answer ?? Drop the "shoe ins" as the kick up the arse that's needed.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #31: Dec 29, 2020 03:22:33 pm
      Win against Newcastle and we will have gotten 10 out of the last 12 possible points. No one would be against that over any 4 game period.

      I humbly disagree... while I’m not against this outcome, the perfectionists on our boards would be. It’s just that they have yet to surface... ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #32: Dec 29, 2020 03:27:44 pm
      On Hendo/Williams/Nat at CB, I'd consider Nat.

      Williams could be a prospect, and is young, but imho doesn't really have much pace and doesn't dominate in the air.
      WBA had a chance in the 2nd half before they scored where they just played a long ball over the top and their forward from being yards behind, passed Williams and got a shot away that Ali saved well.
      He's comfortable on the ball, but most of the time he's under no pressure with opposition dropping off.
      Against Spuds he was exposed a few times, they didn't capitalise [they had the better chances in the game] - and think for Son's goal he played him onside when Fab was playing him off.

      In sayin that Jürgen obviously doesn't rate Nat, with Williams chosen ahead of him. Have only really seen Nat in the game he started, where he did well, and dominated in the air. Against Newcastle, might need his height/strength. In saying that, Jürgen must see a weakness we haven't really seen much of yet.

      Wouldn't play Hendo at CB right now, miss him too much in the middle. Maybe with Thiago/Keita back, though even then I still wouldn't.
      But would Hendo be a better option at CB than Nat/Williams - quite possibly, which doesn't say a lot for the 2 lads unfortunately.

      Hopefully we sign a CB in Jan. I like Matip a lot, think he's a really good CB for us, but he's so injury prone.
      Even if we don't sign a 'top' CB, if we got someone in to be a 3rd/4th choice ahead of Nat/Williams, particularly someone who's good in the air, that could be enough.
      Otherwise, reckon we'll continue to leak points from corners/free kicks.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #33: Dec 29, 2020 03:35:12 pm
      They're all tricky for us right now. No shame in that either, points being dropped by everyone at the moment. Just have to become the side that clicks and puts a run together.

      And like road cycling, stay at the front of the peloton. It’s always nice to breakaway early. But no problem since we’re out in front.

      We just need to beware of our competitors who MAY be on “boosters”, although that’s out of our control.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #34: Dec 29, 2020 03:52:57 pm
      Has he yet participated in any full (contact) training?

      If I’m not mistaken yes he has. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few minutes this game.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #35: Dec 29, 2020 04:12:08 pm
      I expect a few changes with Curtis going out for either Ox or Shaq (Shaq being my preference) and Philips coming in for Matip at CB, also might see Jürgen benching either Bobby or Mane for Minamino with a change on 65 minutes if not going to plan.I believe there will be a response from the weekend as Jürgen like all of us wasn't happy with the second half against WBA,Newcastle will play a lot like WBA with counter attacks and set pieces there only chance of scoring with ten men defending their goal,if we score in first 15 minutes then i can see a 4-0 with a Salah hat-trick and a goal from Bobby if not then 2-0.No more points dropped against the dross/negative teams near the bottom please. COYR lets smash em.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #36: Dec 29, 2020 04:13:13 pm
      If I’m not mistaken yes he has. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few minutes this game.

      Might come a bit too soon think Southampton more likely and then play against Villa in Cup
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #37: Dec 29, 2020 04:13:27 pm
      If I’m not mistaken yes he has. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few minutes this game.

      Klopp provided an update recently on him:

      "Thiago has trained in part with the team so far, but on Friday, he trained the full session," he told reporters. "But it was a reduced session so we couldn't do that [full session].

      "He just has to be part of team training [regularly]. It's not about being part of team training one day and then you can play football in the Premier League.


      "So it looks quite promising at the moment but I cannot say more about it, to be honest. I don't know. I think the plan was that if he trains [on Monday] completely normally then we will see.”

      Klopp’s comments mean Thiago is unlikely to feature in Wednesday’s Premier League trip to Newcastle, but could return for the game at Southampton on Monday or the FA Cup tie with Aston Villa on January 8.

      https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-us/news/klopp-thiago-update-midfielder-liverpool-return/stnvp7riw8oe14qwyfhpw2yfe


      At least there's hope.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #38: Dec 29, 2020 04:18:46 pm
      I think Jürgen is likely to play Thiago against Villa in the cup as i don't think he risk him for the league until he gets up to speed match fitness wise unless we are 3-4 goals up against Newcastle or Southampton and brings him off the subs bench.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #39: Dec 29, 2020 04:26:47 pm
      Almost wondering if Phillips is about to leave. I know it seems counterintuitive given our injuries but he was apparently about to be sold to a Championship side and it fell through. Seems like he's behind Williams now and we've even seen Henderson play there ahead of him. I say this only if we are bringing a front line player in






      Jürgen really needs to have a change of heart, there really is no choice now, as like you say Phillips is as good as gone we need to spend some money this window, surely letting Phillips leave is tantamount to madness unless there is something or someone imminent we or the media don’t know about,

      We’re already down to the bare bones we simply cannot afford to further weaken that position, even if another comes in we’re still under strength, I would imagine though that our recruiting department will have been hard at work since Joe got crocked searching for a suitable candidate that fits perfectly,

      We all know Jürgen prefers recruiting in the summer months but the latest Matip setback could force his hand and set in motion the possibility of seeing a new face in January, IMO  it’s pivotal we get someone in, if we want to hold onto our title we cannot burden the young lads with the inevitable pressure trying to defend our crown and expect them to be error free, also, I believe Jürgen would look to replace Matip this summer and find someone more reliable, so for me it would make sense to find that player now if at all possible, names like  Varane, Koulibally, immediately spring to mind, but I think Jürgen would prefer someone younger for longevity and perhaps versatility, Upamenacho (think that’s his name) maybe ?


      The situation up until Sunday has been manageable albeit somewhat risky, but now it’s absolutely crucial we bring someone in, and I think we will, and as soon as fookin possible too ?




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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #40: Dec 29, 2020 04:37:30 pm
      Theory !! Our players "getting up" for teams like Newcastle.Then Newcastle etc "getting up" for Liverpool.

      Last year there was never a doubt we got up for all comers.This season seems like a "bit" of a problem

      Even personally as a keen amateur back in the day.I'm sure we used to get "stuffed" occasionally by teams sitting at the bottom of our league.

      Them low tabled teams often (and do) turn it on against the top tabled teams.

      Answer ?? Drop the "shoe ins" as the kick up the arse that's needed.






      Go on then, post a team without the ‘shoe ins’ and see if they can get up and beat the low tabled Newcastle,  don’t forget no shoe in’s means, no Alisson, Trent, Fabinho, Robbo, Hendo, Gini, Mane, Salah, or Bobby !


      This’ll be interesting?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #41: Dec 29, 2020 04:54:46 pm
      I think Jürgen is likely to play Thiago against Villa in the cup as i don't think he risk him for the league until he gets up to speed match fitness wise unless we are 3-4 goals up against Newcastle or Southampton and brings him off the subs bench.
      Yeah, he could bring him on if we are leading comfortably similar to Chambo's return
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #42: Dec 29, 2020 04:55:15 pm
      I want to see a positive response, and I fully expect one. Intensity for the full 90 mins please. 3-0 liverpool.
      I have the same prediction, all 3 up front to score imo
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #43: Dec 29, 2020 04:56:31 pm
      This may be a game.for that 4-2-3-1 attack and play Shaq.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #44: Dec 29, 2020 04:57:48 pm
      Just batter them into submission Redmen.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #45: Dec 29, 2020 05:29:39 pm
      Need a high tempo start and keep the pressure on
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #46: Dec 29, 2020 06:28:19 pm
      We need to return to the Palace clinical finishing that was missing against the fat tw@ts team. I agree with the fast start and that it must be kept going. I do think however it shows, if it was needed, that retaining the title is even harder. Results went in our favour again last night. We need to take advantage. C'mon you mighty redmen!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #47: Dec 29, 2020 06:45:15 pm
      Hope the game is on

      Hope we are watching the West Brom Leeds game as well
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #48: Dec 29, 2020 08:36:50 pm

      I believe Jürgen would look to replace Matip this summer and find someone more reliable, so for me it would make sense to find that player now if at all possible, names like  Varane, Koulibally, immediately spring to mind, but I think Jürgen would prefer someone younger for longevity and perhaps versatility, Upamenacho (think that’s his name) maybe ?


      The situation up until Sunday has been manageable albeit somewhat risky, but now it’s absolutely crucial we bring someone in, and I think we will, and as soon as fookin possible too ?

                                                                                   Y  N  W  A

      Upamenacho? No Billy, Upa YOUR nacho!!!

      Sorry, working overnights and just waking up after only four hours of sleep. I'll show myself to the door.  :P
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #49: Dec 29, 2020 08:49:09 pm
      Upamenacho? No Billy, Upa YOUR nacho!!!

      Sorry, working overnights and just waking up after only four hours of sleep. I'll show myself to the door.  :P




      It's Upa something mate not sure tho, might be fanny 🤪
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #50: Dec 29, 2020 09:57:11 pm
      Must win now with the the scum getting a last min deflection. Stuffy bas**rds
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #51: Dec 30, 2020 09:55:21 am
      Anything apart from a win is a disaster. We need to win this game for sure. Hope Salah is awake for this one.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #52: Dec 30, 2020 10:30:09 am
      Not sure who to expect as centre backs for this one. I'm thinking it might be Fab and Rhys. The mid field needs a shake up, but I expect Jürgen to go again as he won't want to damage the frail confidence of these players. I'm hoping we might see Shaqu or mini up top with Bob dropping deeper to use his cute passing abilities. Other than that it has to be Ox in the middle with Hendo and Gini, and we may see a bit more penetrive drive from the middle.
      Full backs and three up top the same in that case.
      No doubt Barcodes will play with at least 9 at the back trying to frustrate us, although they do tend to TRY and play a bit of footy, so we may find a few gaps to pass through. I'm a bit worried that this season on the whole is kicking up some strange results, but i'm still going for 1-3 to the Reds.
      I've given them the one goal, as I expect the egg head will find one or two long diagonal through balls to their strikers. One may pay off, but on the whole we should be too good for them. I expect Jürgen will have instructed our lot on how to break through these horrible walls of defence, wouldn't he ?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #53: Dec 30, 2020 11:11:57 am
      Not sure who to expect as centre backs for this one. I'm thinking it might be Fab and Rhys. The mid field needs a shake up, but I expect Jürgen to go again as he won't want to damage the frail confidence of these players. I'm hoping we might see Shaqu or mini up top with Bob dropping deeper to use his cute passing abilities. Other than that it has to be Ox in the middle with Hendo and Gini, and we may see a bit more penetrive drive from the middle.
      Full backs and three up top the same in that case.
      No doubt Barcodes will play with at least 9 at the back trying to frustrate us, although they do tend to TRY and play a bit of footy, so we may find a few gaps to pass through. I'm a bit worried that this season on the whole is kicking up some strange results, but i'm still going for 1-3 to the Reds.
      I've given them the one goal, as I expect the egg head will find one or two long diagonal through balls to their strikers. One may pay off, but on the whole we should be too good for them. I expect Jürgen will have instructed our lot on how to break through these horrible walls of defence, wouldn't he ?

      Might even be Fan and Hendo in the back.

      I'd they park the bus (and surely they will), maybe a little less looking to score the perfect goal and just have it. Shoot 30 times from the edge of the area and who knows, good things might happen a couple of times. Also leads to rebounds and corners.

      Let's win this.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #54: Dec 30, 2020 11:45:10 am
      Might even be Fan and Hendo in the back.

      I'd they park the bus (and surely they will), maybe a little less looking to score the perfect goal and just have it. Shoot 30 times from the edge of the area and who knows, good things might happen a couple of times. Also leads to rebounds and corners.

      Let's win this.

      Need to have More attempts at goal a deflection as we saw last night , rebound etc took too many touches trying to walk it in at times
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #55: Dec 30, 2020 01:41:36 pm
      Not sure who to expect as centre backs for this one. I'm thinking it might be Fab and Rhys. The mid field needs a shake up, but I expect Jürgen to go again as he won't want to damage the frail confidence of these players. I'm hoping we might see Shaqu or mini up top with Bob dropping deeper to use his cute passing abilities. Other than that it has to be Ox in the middle with Hendo and Gini, and we may see a bit more penetrive drive from the middle.
      Full backs and three up top the same in that case.
      No doubt Barcodes will play with at least 9 at the back trying to frustrate us, although they do tend to TRY and play a bit of footy, so we may find a few gaps to pass through. I'm a bit worried that this season on the whole is kicking up some strange results, but i'm still going for 1-3 to the Reds.
      I've given them the one goal, as I expect the egg head will find one or two long diagonal through balls to their strikers. One may pay off, but on the whole we should be too good for them. I expect Jürgen will have instructed our lot on how to break through these horrible walls of defence, wouldn't he ?
      same here, I feel Fab and Rhys pairing is expected, but Klopp could play Phillips as well
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #56: Dec 30, 2020 01:42:07 pm
      Must win now with the the scum getting a last min deflection. Stuffy bas**rds
      typical United win, and then their fanbase says they are deserving title winners
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #57: Dec 30, 2020 01:50:50 pm
      United are annoying right now but being a 2-player team is not sustainable over a full season. They’ll fall back in the not to distant future.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #58: Dec 30, 2020 02:10:50 pm
      United are annoying right now but being a 2-player team is not sustainable over a full season. They’ll fall back in the not to distant future.

      I think they will only gain more confidence from last minute wins like that.
      Weird old season, don’t discount anyone !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #59: Dec 30, 2020 02:12:24 pm
      Need to have More attempts at goal a deflection as we saw last night , rebound etc took too many touches trying to walk it in at times

      Clearly, Villa scored 7 against us, of which 4 were deflections the keeper could do nothing about.
      FFS SHOOOOOTT !
      « Last Edit: Dec 30, 2020 06:21:07 pm by GERNS »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #60: Dec 30, 2020 02:15:37 pm
      same here, I feel Fab and Rhys pairing is expected, but Klopp could play Phillips as well

      He may feel Phillips is more powerful in the air 🤷‍♂️
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #61: Dec 30, 2020 02:29:46 pm
      I think they will only gain more confidence from last minute wins like that.
      Weird old season, don’t discount anyone !

      Agree on the confidence part. That was my biggest annoyance with the win, that it boosts their confidence.

      But there's 60% of the season left to go and i don't see their 2-player dependence holding up the entire year.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #62: Dec 30, 2020 02:32:26 pm
      Clearly, palace scored 7 against us, of which 4 were deflections the keeper could do nothing about.
      FFS SHOOOOOTT !

      Clearly misread
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #63: Dec 30, 2020 04:36:36 pm
      No saint Maxim for them is good news, lessens the threat on the break

      See them going 4 5 1 so for me Id drop Hendo back, almost in a quarter back role, helping Fab out but able to carry the ball into the middle, I suppose he does this anyway....but playing him.centre halve allows Minamino to come in to give us another key to unlock the all men behind the ball door.

      Hard to call if the gaffer will decide to rest any  of the likes of Trent Robbo Gini etc but if he doesnt then

      Allisson

      Trent hendo Fab Robbo

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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #64: Dec 30, 2020 05:26:31 pm
      Think we’ll maybe see Ox come in for Jones, had a bit of a howler on Sunday. Gini and Hendo the other midfielders. Fab and Rhys as the CB pairing. Other than that, usual suspects.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #65: Dec 30, 2020 05:37:19 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #66: Dec 30, 2020 06:02:52 pm
      No game until Monday so expect the usual line up with ox starting instead of Curtis
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #67: Dec 30, 2020 06:23:50 pm
      chats
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #68: Dec 30, 2020 06:36:39 pm
      Thiago in the squad.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #69: Dec 30, 2020 06:40:03 pm
      The most important thing tonight is a win, whoever is selected to start !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #70: Dec 30, 2020 06:40:34 pm
      Please win 🙏
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #71: Dec 30, 2020 06:44:37 pm

      Great news to be back even if on bench 👍
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #72: Dec 30, 2020 06:58:47 pm

      Hope your right
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #73: Dec 30, 2020 06:59:04 pm
      Hopefully get a result early on..

      Gone for 1-3 win..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #74: Dec 30, 2020 07:00:22 pm
      Up and at em at full pace
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      Re: Pre-Match: Newcastle v Liverpool EPL (Wed 30th Dec 2020 8:00pm)
      Reply #75: Dec 30, 2020 07:00:26 pm
      He is, it was confirmed on the official Instagram page about half an hour ago.

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