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      Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #50: Jan 14, 2021 12:01:24 pm
      IMO its the usual with this mob, dont lose works for both.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #51: Jan 14, 2021 12:52:15 pm

      i'm also reminded of when my state went into lockdown, the rules read something like "You must stay at home...unless you have to leave the house."

      Fact is I HATE Man United more than any other club/team. But it is still sport hate.

      Let's smash them and talk about something else!  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #52: Jan 14, 2021 12:57:38 pm
      i'm also reminded of when my state went into lockdown, the rules read something like "You must stay at home...unless you have to leave the house."

      Fact is I HATE Man United more than any other club/team. But it is still sport hate.

      Let's smash them and talk about something else!  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:



      What even more than Everton.  ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #53: Jan 14, 2021 01:06:45 pm
      The best home record in the EPL (ours - P8 W7 D1 L0 = 22 Pts) vs. the best away record (theirs - P8 W7 D1 L0 = 22 Pts).

      Tasty!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #54: Jan 14, 2021 01:21:07 pm
      Day of Reckoning Keith
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #55: Jan 14, 2021 01:59:33 pm
      This game is always massive, but we’ve made it much bigger than what it should be because we’ve thrown points away to sh*te teams this season.

      It’s a must win for us now. Any other result is a poor one.

      But that said, we’re a much better side than these with a much better manager too. If we play anywhere near our best then we win, simple as that.

      Hope we go out and drill them 3 or 4 nil and put them back in their place.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #56: Jan 14, 2021 02:19:12 pm

      I wish  ;D

      I do think it's our best chance of beating you for a while. However, you know what's coming.  :D I must sound like a broken record at the moment as simply nothing changed with my opinion.

      We basically have a chance coz you've half a team ( on paper ) at the moment.  Only City playing better than us, momentum  with United as well. It's actually very hard to comprehend we could be 6 points clear come weekend.  :o

      Never would I have dreamt such a possibility under Ole as I still think he's not got what it takes for the next level. With all the top teams dropping points it's making us look better than what we actually are so certainly won't be getting carried away like some fans are.

      Seeing us top of table looks very nice, sadly my head says it won't last. I've called our defence all season and stated ( still do ) can't win the league with such poor defending. If other teams continue the current trend ( due to 2020 ) and losing/drawing games that they should win we could just make that challenge reality rather than fantasy.  :D

       Not done any homework yet on how many points it will take to win the league this year, hazarding a guess mid 80s? Currently it's looking whoever finishes above City will win it. Never thought I'd be saying that this year. If your injured players don't return soon ( apart from VVD ) it's going to be a exciting finish for us all.

      Glad the match is on at a decent time as I'm four hours ahead of England at the moment so no problems watching this one.  ;D

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #57: Jan 14, 2021 02:21:18 pm
      I wish  ;D

      I do think it's our best chance of beating you for a while. However, you know what's coming.  :D I must sound like a broken record at the moment as simply nothing changed with my opinion.

      We basically have a chance coz you've half a team ( on paper ) at the moment.  Only City playing better than us, momentum  with United as well. It's actually very hard to comprehend we could be 6 points clear come weekend.  :o

      Never would I have dreamt such a possibility under Ole as I still think he's not got what it takes for the next level. With all the top teams dropping points it's making us look better than what we actually are so certainly won't be getting carried away like some fans are.

      Seeing us top of table looks very nice, sadly my head says it won't last. I've called our defence all season and stated ( still do ) can't win the league with such poor defending. If other teams continue the current trend ( due to 2020 ) and losing/drawing games that they should win we could just make that challenge reality rather than fantasy.  :D

       Not done any homework yet on how many points it will take to win the league this year, hazarding a guess mid 80s? Currently it's looking whoever finishes above City will win it. Never thought I'd be saying that this year. If your injured players don't return soon ( apart from VVD ) it's going to be a exciting finish for us all.

      Glad the match is on at a decent time as I'm four hours ahead of England at the moment so no problems watching this one.  ;D



      How do you see your lot lining out??

      Im expecting Fred McToninay and Matic sitting in the middle with Rashford up top with Fernandez and Pogba just behind him....play on the break
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #58: Jan 14, 2021 02:36:16 pm
      How do you see your lot lining out??

      Im expecting Fred McToninay and Matic sitting in the middle with Rashford up top with Fernandez and Pogba just behind him....play on the break

      Didn't Matic pull up with a groin injury in the last game, I think he and Martial might be doubts for this game.

      If I was Klopp I would have Hendo and Fabinho as the CB/DM pairing and a Midfield of Thiago, Shaq and Gini with the usual front three. I think that provides the best balance at the moment in terms of defence plus also giving us a hell of a tasty attack.

      I have no doubt that Utd will score at least one goal so we have to make sure we score more and that means taking the fight to them.


      BTW the reason why I say Hendo and Fabinho would be CB/DM is that playing them next to each other would allow one of them to move forward a bit into DM if Utd sit back, ie we get the best of both worlds, theoretically :-)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #59: Jan 14, 2021 02:43:53 pm
      How do you see your lot lining out??

      Im expecting Fred McToninay and Matic sitting in the middle with Rashford up top with Fernandez and Pogba just behind him....play on the break

      I'm liking McTominay more and more Brian and would have him over Fred any day of the week but got some abuse on caf  :lmao: he offers so much more to his game, espically when he does go forward. I'd sell Fred but that's another story.  ;D

      First player on team sheet is Pogba as playing exceptionally well at moment and Ole seems to be giving him more space in front so hopefully that continues. Is Pogba playing well coz team playing well? it's a question I keep asking myself.  :roll:

      This may please you though? I'd put Rashford on the bench and replace him with Greenwood. He's due a run in the team and rotation a must if we're to continue in our false postion.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #60: Jan 14, 2021 02:47:21 pm
      Didn't Matic pull up with a groin injury in the last game, I think he and Martial might be doubts for this game.



      You're correct and both doubtful from what I've read.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #61: Jan 14, 2021 02:54:15 pm
      You're correct and both doubtful from what I've read.

      Not sure Martial would have played anyway tbh think Cavani on his own with Rashord right and pogba left
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #62: Jan 14, 2021 03:49:03 pm
      Pivotal we have Matip back next to Fabinho for this, otherwise it pains me to say I can’t see us winning it, we’ve been utter sh*te recently but the MUtants have been buoyant, are in form and have the momentum, so with us under strength defensively at least and to some degree in midfield also, it’s hard to imagine us coming out on top,

      If indeed Joel makes it Hendo needs to sit in front protecting, with Thiago and Gini either side, Robbo & Trent stretching the pitch and the usual three amigos up top, without Joel, I think Hendo sits in with Fabinho and we could see Millie come in and play the DM, this is not a game for either Rhys nor Nat, they’d get ripped to f**k by Rashford & co, it’s not a ideal set up but one I think that is strong enough to deal with their counter attack, it does lack creativity but with Thiago it helps massively with his accuracy,

      The front three need to be on their game collectively too, they have been way off their best of late and need to re-ignite the fire that should be burning in their guts, we of course all hope that we are past our sticky patch and we get somewhere near our capabilities,,I just want us to play well and not the sh*te we have seen recently, do that we get mullered simple as that, play like we know we can they won’t touch us.


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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #63: Jan 14, 2021 04:31:30 pm
      Not sure Martial would have played anyway tbh think Cavani on his own with Rashord right and pogba left

      Wasn't Cavani injured a lot at PSG and in terrible form, and now he's turned into fecking superman, I really did not think that signing would work out as well as it has so far.

      In all seriousness either our players are weaker, our training exercises are too tough or the Utd physios are much better, it has to be one of those.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #64: Jan 14, 2021 04:34:19 pm
      Pivotal we have Matip back next to Fabinho for this, otherwise it pains me to say I can’t see us winning it, we’ve been utter sh*te recently but the MUtants have been buoyant, are in form and have the momentum, so with us under strength defensively at least and to some degree in midfield also, it’s hard to imagine us coming out on top,

      If indeed Joel makes it Hendo needs to sit in front protecting, with Thiago and Gini either side, Robbo & Trent stretching the pitch and the usual three amigos up top, without Joel, I think Hendo sits in with Fabinho and we could see Millie come in and play the DM, this is not a game for either Rhys nor Nat, they’d get ripped to f**k by Rashford & co, it’s not a ideal set up but one I think that is strong enough to deal with their counter attack, it does lack creativity but with Thiago it helps massively with his accuracy,

      The front three need to be on their game collectively too, they have been way off their best of late and need to re-ignite the fire that should be burning in their guts, we of course all hope that we are past our sticky patch and we get somewhere near our capabilities,,I just want us to play well and not the sh*te we have seen recently, do that we get mullered simple as that, play like we know we can they won’t touch us.


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      Play Henderson next to Fabinho at CB and play a creative midfield of Thiago, Shaq and Gini, if we do that we win. We may well win anyway but I think that's our best shot, we must be positive in this game and look to outscore Man Utd. If we sit back we are fu**ed.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #65: Jan 14, 2021 04:42:48 pm
      Play Henderson next to Fabinho at CB and play a creative midfield of Thiago, Shaq and Gini, if we do that we win. We may well win anyway but I think that's our best shot, we must be positive in this game and look to outscore Man Utd. If we sit back we are fu**ed.

      We've always played cautious against the mancs under Jürgen (think someone else mentioned that actually), for whatever reason. Hope he changes his habit and we go after them, hopefully with Thiago back it will help get our front 3 firing again and offer us another avenue of attack.

      No mistake though, this is the biggest game against the mancs in a long time and we need to come to the party.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #66: Jan 14, 2021 05:00:03 pm
      Wasn't Cavani injured a lot at PSG and in terrible form, and now he's turned into fecking superman, I really did not think that signing would work out as well as it has so far.

      In all seriousness either our players are weaker, our training exercises are too tough or the Utd physios are much better, it has to be one of those.

      Cavani passed his best but doing decent job so far. Not sure I'd go as far as super human though.   xxxxx:action-smiley-065: Had a bad game other nite.  I sometimes think you over analyse your teams performances. Sh*t happens from time to time. Don't think it's down to any of the above.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #67: Jan 14, 2021 05:31:38 pm
      Wasn't Cavani injured a lot at PSG and in terrible form, and now he's turned into fecking superman, I really did not think that signing would work out as well as it has so far.

      In all seriousness either our players are weaker, our training exercises are too tough or the Utd physios are much better, it has to be one of those.

      I always thought Cavani was a fantastic signing for them. He's a proven scorer at both club and country and would be able to bring experience and leadership to a team devoid of that with a mediocre coach. May not be good enough to be a regular starter but can be definitely impactful in a super-sub role as well as mentoring kids behind the scenes. He's knows exactly what to do in the box and he single-handedly won United the game at Southampton, for example. He also makes clever movements / runs to open space for Rashford and has definitely been one of their top players so far this season. A great option when Ole just says "well, i'm out of ideas" and Cavani goes in and rescues points with his experience.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #68: Jan 14, 2021 06:35:33 pm
      I always thought Cavani was a fantastic signing for them. He's a proven scorer at both club and country and would be able to bring experience and leadership to a team devoid of that with a mediocre coach. May not be good enough to be a regular starter but can be definitely impactful in a super-sub role as well as mentoring kids behind the scenes. He's knows exactly what to do in the box and he single-handedly won United the game at Southampton, for example. He also makes clever movements / runs to open space for Rashford and has definitely been one of their top players so far this season. A great option when Ole just says "well, i'm out of ideas" and Cavani goes in and rescues points with his experience.

      A mystery that PSG sold him then.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #69: Jan 14, 2021 08:19:06 pm
      This is great..Champions, at home where they have not lost in years, being written off by loads of utd fans, media and some of our own....Cant wait for kick off
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #70: Jan 14, 2021 08:31:24 pm
      Play Henderson next to Fabinho at CB and play a creative midfield of Thiago, Shaq and Gini, if we do that we win. We may well win anyway but I think that's our best shot, we must be positive in this game and look to outscore Man Utd. If we sit back we are fu**ed.



      I thought of Shaqiri being in there but for me he isn't the best at having to dig in, put a few tackles in and generally put in a solid performance which we will need, he's better suited as a impact sub running at tired legs, linking up play and a goal threat,
      against Munts we need steel centrally albeit sacrificing attacking options.


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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #71: Jan 14, 2021 09:21:05 pm

      For me as an American, absolutely United has been the team I most love to hate. For the longest time over here every default "fan" of English football teams would spout on about United just because they were winning so many trophies. I've seen it from people all over the British Commonwealth, United, United, United.

      I get the rivalry with Everton on Merseyside, but not having grown up there, it doesn't hit me in the same way.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #72: Jan 14, 2021 09:24:21 pm
      Henderson has to be in the midfield.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #73: Jan 14, 2021 09:49:24 pm
      Henderson has to be in the midfield.

      I agree, 100%
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool vs United. (Sunday 17th -16:30 KO)
      Reply #74: Jan 14, 2021 09:57:11 pm
      Henderson has to be in the midfield.

      Sure, but if he's going to be in midfield he needs to do more than constantly try to lob the ball into the box. That was horrible the last game.

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