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      Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion

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      shawspeed
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #750: Jan 20, 2021 10:12:16 pm

      I'm really lost for words with you... Let's leave it at that.

      I'll explain in simple terms for you then. You were pretty much saying that unless a goalie has to make a save then it can't be deemed to be a chance. I've demonstrated that your criteria is flawed. Don't see what your issue is.

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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #751: Jan 20, 2021 10:26:17 pm
      Ah ok so by your reckoning if a player is through on goal but scuffs his shot then it doesn't count as a chance, interesting, that explains why we disagree on this. I'm looking at it more from an xG point of view, ie how good an opportunity was it to score, irrespective of whether the player scuffs the shot or the GK makes a great save etc

      Does anyone know where I can see the xG (expected Goals) stat from individual games?

      Ah found it, and it makes for interesting reading with Liverpool have an Xg of 1.2 to Man Utd's 1.19, not much in it but certainly not as lopsided as Keith remembers ;-)

      https://understat.com/match/14620

      Thanks Heim, that's what I was on about, they weren't clear cut chances but they were chances none the less. They all fkn went in against Palace!
      heimdall
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #752: Jan 21, 2021 09:30:37 am
      Not at all mate I  like facts, it's just that you try and put words into people's mouths and sometimes twist things round.  ;D   Me stating we had the better chances doesn't mean it's lobsided in a big way as you put it.

      If you like facts, why did you laugh when I showed you we had a higher xG than you in the game??? 

      I also completely disagree with your assertion that a chance is only a good chance if it leads to a shot on goal, you have to factor in a scuffed or misdirected shot and a last minute tackle if a striker takes to long on the ball like Salah was guilty of.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #753: Jan 21, 2021 11:27:59 am
      If you like facts, why did you laugh when I showed you we had a higher xG than you in the game??? 

      I also completely disagree with your assertion that a chance is only a good chance if it leads to a shot on goal, you have to factor in a scuffed or misdirected shot and a last minute tackle if a striker takes to long on the ball like Salah was guilty of.

      I laughed coz that's you just being you, you never give up.  :lmao: Sometimes I just can't go on explaining myself ( like others  ;D ) so just leave you too it.  ;D It's not a criticism though so don't panic.
      weareliverpool
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #754: Jan 21, 2021 11:37:27 am
      I laughed coz that's you just being you, you never give up.  :lmao: Sometimes I just can't go on explaining myself ( like others  ;D ) so just leave you too it.  ;D It's not a criticism though so don't panic.

      Why can't you admit you are wrong and heimdall is right?Heimdall has explained very well the issue you have choose to make,any simpleton can see that.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #755: Jan 21, 2021 05:19:53 pm
      Why can't you admit you are wrong and heimdall is right?Heimdall has explained very well the issue you have choose to make,any simpleton can see that.

      You wouldn't agree with me if you had hole in your arse anyway. Already worked you  out on mancs. I'll call you Mr Negative till one of us puts the other on ignore.  ;)
      weareliverpool
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #756: Jan 22, 2021 02:12:54 pm
      You wouldn't agree with me if you had hole in your arse anyway. Already worked you  out on mancs. I'll call you Mr Negative till one of us puts the other on ignore.  ;)

      I thought you weren't the typical Manc but it seems your true colours are starting to show,why don't you go on your own club's forum and celebrate being top in January because that's the only thing you will be celebrating this season,i don't think many people on here value your Manc opinion.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #757: Jan 22, 2021 03:19:18 pm
      I thought you weren't the typical Manc but it seems your true colours are starting to show,why don't you go on your own club's forum and celebrate being top in January because that's the only thing you will be celebrating this season,i don't think many people on here value your Manc opinion.

      And you know being a member 5 mins would you? Fortunately members known me long enough to know I'm not (( in your un educated opinion )) a typical manc. Your obviously a sour grape but all clubs have them. How do you know members don't value my/other fans opinion? If you'd been on site long enough you'd know that they do.

      Not many Liverpool fans on here from my experience act in the manor your doing but feel free to be Mr negative towards me or other fans that post on here, you'll be easy to deal with.

      I don't celebrate or rub members  nose's in when we win either. What's there to celebrate  being top in January anyway? Any prizes given? 

      You have a lot to learn being a member on here and hopefully you do, enjoy the forum and try and not be too bitter.
      weareliverpool
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #758: Jan 22, 2021 03:37:55 pm
      And you know being a member 5 mins would you? Fortunately members known me long enough to know I'm not (( in your un educated opinion )) a typical manc. Your obviously a sour grape but all clubs have them. How do you know members don't value my/other fans opinion? If you'd been on site long enough you'd know that they do.

      Not many Liverpool fans on here from my experience act in the manor your doing but feel free to be Mr negative towards me or other fans that post on here, you'll be easy to deal with.

      I don't celebrate or rub members  nose's in when we win either. What's there to celebrate  being top in January anyway? Any prizes given? 

      You have a lot to learn being a member on here and hopefully you do, enjoy the forum and try and not be too bitter.

      Can i ask why you are even on a Liverpool forum?Do you go on City's,Chelsea,Spurs,Leicester,Arsenal and the rest of the PL teams forums?Seems very bizarre!
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #759: Jan 22, 2021 04:13:49 pm
      Can i ask why you are even on a Liverpool forum?Do you go on City's,Chelsea,Spurs,Leicester,Arsenal and the rest of the PL teams forums?Seems very bizarre!


      You can ask anything you want. However, you've not earned any respect from me as of yet judging by the limited post you've made so far. All  you've done is be obtuse and very narrow minded.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #760: Jan 22, 2021 04:22:11 pm
      Can i ask why you are even on a Liverpool forum?Do you go on City's,Chelsea,Spurs,Leicester,Arsenal and the rest of the PL teams forums?Seems very bizarre!


      There are Liverpool supporters on Red Cafe.

      Nothing wrong with it.

      Keith might be Manc Scum but he's our Manc Scum. ;)
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #761: Jan 22, 2021 04:22:31 pm
      You can ask anything you want. However, you've not earned any respect from me as of yet judging by the limited post you've made so far. All  you've done is be obtuse and very narrow minded.

      Earned any respect?You have aired your views to which Heimdall answered and explained very well but you still didn't accept it,i suggest you look back at the posts and then say who's obtuse and narrow minded.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #762: Jan 22, 2021 04:26:47 pm
      I thought you weren't the typical Manc but it seems your true colours are starting to show,why don't you go on your own club's forum and celebrate being top in January because that's the only thing you will be celebrating this season,i don't think many people on here value your Manc opinion.

      Actually they do. Well I do for one. Always good to have a rivals perspective and Keith is usually respectful on here when he posts. Nothing wrong with having some banter with a rival supporter it's all good.
      weareliverpool
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #763: Jan 22, 2021 04:40:38 pm
      Actually they do. Well I do for one. Always good to have a rivals perspective and Keith is usually respectful on here when he posts. Nothing wrong with having some banter with a rival supporter it's all good.

      Why would you care what a rivals perspective is?When you air your views and someone blows it out of the water is it respectful not to acknowledge that?I can't understand why a supporter of another club would come on our forum giving his views on our club,saying the title's between city and us when we can't hit a barn door and are completely out of form and they are top and on form.
      Keith Singleton
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #764: Jan 22, 2021 04:42:52 pm
      Earned any respect?You have aired your views to which Heimdall answered and explained very well but you still didn't accept it,i suggest you look back at the posts and then say who's obtuse and narrow minded.

      I suggest you read my back post as I already answers originally  and then Heimy just twisted things a little which he often does. Heimy and I get on very well and a newbie sh*t stirrer won't get in its way.

      Last post with you and back on topic.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #765: Jan 22, 2021 04:48:15 pm
      There are Liverpool supporters on Red Cafe.

      Nothing wrong with it.

      Keith might be Manc Scum but he's our Manc Scum. ;)

      Think he's a wum in disguised Baz.  :lmao: 

      I love your saying as it reminds me of what many scousers say on here and at poker! He may be a c**t but he's our c**t.  :lmao:
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #766: Jan 22, 2021 04:51:52 pm
      I suggest you read my back post as I already answers originally  and then Heimy just twisted things a little which he often does. Heimy and I get on very well and a newbie sh*t stirrer won't get in its way.

      Last post with you and back on topic.

      You sound like a child with your name calling,i can see why you come on our forum,it's the only chance you get to talk about real football and winning trophy's,are we your second team?
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #767: Jan 22, 2021 04:54:35 pm
      There are Liverpool supporters on Red Cafe.

      Nothing wrong with it.

      Keith might be Manc Scum but he's our Manc Scum. ;)

      I've heard it all now,unbelievable.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #768: Jan 23, 2021 02:55:39 pm
      Why would you care what a rivals perspective is?When you air your views and someone blows it out of the water is it respectful not to acknowledge that?I can't understand why a supporter of another club would come on our forum giving his views on our club,saying the title's between city and us when we can't hit a barn door and are completely out of form and they are top and on form.

      Why the f**k do you come on here? Keith has had to answer this several times over. Do you not think some of us viewed him with doubt and called him all the manc tw*ts going. End of the day fella has explained himself a few times that he prefers having a laugh with us than on some of the manc forums and has even thrown in to charitanbe donations if I'm not mistaken. So chill the f**k out lad!!
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #769: Jan 23, 2021 03:27:48 pm
      You sound like a child with your name calling,i can see why you come on our forum,it's the only chance you get to talk about real football and winning trophy's,are we your second team?





      Mate, but of advice, if you haven’t anything’s to say that’s perhaps worthwhile, don’t say anything at all, it helps that’s all I’m saying, Keith by the way, has been our Manc c**t for years, you on the other hand have been here 5 minutes, this in case you haven’t noticed is a adult forum and we adults tend to throw a bit of respect to one another occasionally, but you on the other hand sound as though your still sucking your Mama’s tits.


      Welcome to the forum mate, but f***in grow up !
      heimdall
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #770: Jan 23, 2021 04:33:11 pm
      And you know being a member 5 mins would you? Fortunately members known me long enough to know I'm not (( in your un educated opinion )) a typical manc. Your obviously a sour grape but all clubs have them. How do you know members don't value my/other fans opinion? If you'd been on site long enough you'd know that they do.

      Not many Liverpool fans on here from my experience act in the manor your doing but feel free to be Mr negative towards me or other fans that post on here, you'll be easy to deal with.

      I don't celebrate or rub members  nose's in when we win either. What's there to celebrate  being top in January anyway? Any prizes given? 

      You have a lot to learn being a member on here and hopefully you do, enjoy the forum and try and not be too bitter.

      Nah you are becoming a bit of a Manc c**t Keith, you were OK whilst your team was sh*t but now you are briefly relevant again the smug arrogance is re-emerging.
      « Last Edit: Jan 23, 2021 04:38:12 pm by heimdall »
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      Reply #771: Jan 23, 2021 04:56:01 pm
      Nah you are becoming a bit of a Manc c**t Keith, you were OK whilst your team was sh*t but now you are briefly relevant again the smug arrogance is re-emerging.

       :lmao: First of all I'll always be a manc Cnut.  :D Not sure you'll find a post about me being smug/arrogance/cocky about United winning. If fact please show me a post that I have please?

      I do banter with quite a few of you but that's as far as it goes. Your just blowing your usual hot & cold again.  :lmao: 

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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #772: Jan 23, 2021 05:24:50 pm
      :lmao: First of all I'll always be a manc Cnut.  :D Not sure you'll find a post about me being smug/arrogance/cocky about United winning. If fact please show me a post that I have please?

      I do banter with quite a few of you but that's as far as it goes. Your just blowing your usual hot & cold again.  :lmao: 



      Yeah that post was not arrogant at all Keith!
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      Reply #773: Jan 23, 2021 05:34:02 pm
      Yeah that post was not arrogant at all Keith!

      Now I know your being sarcastic Heimy  :D I'm very nice to you compared to some of your colleagues on here.  :D More importantly, you very rarely take offence when someone does throw abuse at you anyway and I'm certainly not on that list.  Your just having a go coz I'm a manc.  ;D I can take it.  :D
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      Reply #774: Jan 23, 2021 05:55:45 pm
      Now I know your being sarcastic Heimy  :D I'm very nice to you compared to some of your colleagues on here.  :D More importantly, you very rarely take offence when someone does throw abuse at you anyway and I'm certainly not on that list.  Your just having a go coz I'm a manc.  ;D I can take it.  :D

      Oh how kind of you, a Man Utd fan on a Liverpool forum decides to be nice!

      Wow, the f**king hubris!!

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