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      Premier League Top 4 for CL
      Feb 26, 2021 12:31:17 pm
      I thought there was a thread for top 4 but can't find it. Mods please move accordingly if their is one.

      Opinions on top 4 welcome. Mine are as follows.

      Obviously a slam dunk for top 4 are Man City, can't see one single member not having them in the top 4. With their exciting football and squad debt you can't help but admire the way they play great football. (( that hurt having to say that but it's true.  :D ))


      Chelsea under Thomas Tuchel is already applying his technical /trade football at the club. He is a class manager for me and already putting fat frank to shame on his inability given a team that have plenty to spend yet couldn't get the results to keep his job. Tuchel will for me get the best out of Werner that we haven't seen yet. Mason Mount is another player who will thrive under current manager.

      Man United continue to be inconsistent with results which is a concern (( well at least for me ))  but I do think we can sneak this one, even with Ole at the wheel.  ;D If they can keep Bruno injury free for the remaining of the season it should be Ok. My only concern is the Europa Cup as it's simply too many matches.

      Until last nite I had the fourth spot  between you lads ( Liverpool ) & Leicester. Liverpool can't really play any worse than what they are currently and with the next 3 games 2 of them being easy targets on paper I think this will put them back in the frame along with one or two players getting back in the squad.

      However, with Leicester going out  of the Europa Cup last nite I now think they have the edge Obviously with them being nine points clear of Liverpool gives them a massive edge. I just can't get last season out of my mind though when they capitulated what looked like a certain top four. Bearing this in mind it makes my forth choice just that little bit harder to predict.

      So top four in order.
      Man City
      Chelsea
      Man United
      Leicester

      What's your verdict on top 4 and reasons why. ?

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      Re: Premier League Top 4 for CL
      Reply #1: Feb 27, 2021 12:10:05 am
      I thought there was a thread for top 4 but can't find it. Mods please move accordingly if their is one.

      Opinions on top 4 welcome. Mine are as follows.

      Obviously a slam dunk for top 4 are Man City, can't see one single member not having them in the top 4. With their exciting football and squad debt you can't help but admire the way they play great football. (( that hurt having to say that but it's true.  :D ))


      Chelsea under Thomas Tuchel is already applying his technical /trade football at the club. He is a class manager for me and already putting fat frank to shame on his inability given a team that have plenty to spend yet couldn't get the results to keep his job. Tuchel will for me get the best out of Werner that we haven't seen yet. Mason Mount is another player who will thrive under current manager.

      Man United continue to be inconsistent with results which is a concern (( well at least for me ))  but I do think we can sneak this one, even with Ole at the wheel.  ;D If they can keep Bruno injury free for the remaining of the season it should be Ok. My only concern is the Europa Cup as it's simply too many matches.

      Until last nite I had the fourth spot  between you lads ( Liverpool ) & Leicester. Liverpool can't really play any worse than what they are currently and with the next 3 games 2 of them being easy targets on paper I think this will put them back in the frame along with one or two players getting back in the squad.

      However, with Leicester going out  of the Europa Cup last nite I now think they have the edge Obviously with them being nine points clear of Liverpool gives them a massive edge. I just can't get last season out of my mind though when they capitulated what looked like a certain top four. Bearing this in mind it makes my forth choice just that little bit harder to predict.

      So top four in order.
      Man City
      Chelsea
      Man United
      Leicester

      What's your verdict on top 4 and reasons why. ?



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      Reply #2: Feb 27, 2021 09:08:10 am
      This will go well for ye Keith 😎

      Just how I see it now Brian. You know it's not personal. I think Chavs under Tuchel will mount a challenge next year.   :(
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      Reply #3: Feb 27, 2021 12:05:07 pm
      Tuchel is a terrible manager, made Dortmund much worse and failed at PSG. If we can find any kind of form we'll push Chelsea out of a top four place.
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      Reply #4: Feb 27, 2021 12:59:00 pm
      I thought there was a thread for top 4 but can't find it. Mods please move accordingly if their is one.

      Opinions on top 4 welcome. Mine are as follows.

      Obviously a slam dunk for top 4 are Man City, can't see one single member not having them in the top 4. With their exciting football and squad debt you can't help but admire the way they play great football. (( that hurt having to say that but it's true.  :D ))


      Chelsea under Thomas Tuchel is already applying his technical /trade football at the club. He is a class manager for me and already putting fat frank to shame on his inability given a team that have plenty to spend yet couldn't get the results to keep his job. Tuchel will for me get the best out of Werner that we haven't seen yet. Mason Mount is another player who will thrive under current manager.

      Man United continue to be inconsistent with results which is a concern (( well at least for me ))  but I do think we can sneak this one, even with Ole at the wheel.  ;D If they can keep Bruno injury free for the remaining of the season it should be Ok. My only concern is the Europa Cup as it's simply too many matches.

      Until last nite I had the fourth spot  between you lads ( Liverpool ) & Leicester. Liverpool can't really play any worse than what they are currently and with the next 3 games 2 of them being easy targets on paper I think this will put them back in the frame along with one or two players getting back in the squad.

      However, with Leicester going out  of the Europa Cup last nite I now think they have the edge Obviously with them being nine points clear of Liverpool gives them a massive edge. I just can't get last season out of my mind though when they capitulated what looked like a certain top four. Bearing this in mind it makes my forth choice just that little bit harder to predict.

      So top four in order.
      Man City
      Chelsea
      Man United
      Leicester

      What's your verdict on top 4 and reasons why. ?



      You finish fourth, we win the European cup, you lot end up back in the Europa again ;)
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      Re: Premier League Top 4 for CL
      Reply #5: Feb 27, 2021 01:08:48 pm
      You finish fourth, we win the European cup, you lot end up back in the Europa again ;)

      Don't think it works like that anymore sadly.

      I still think top four will contain City, Chelsea and us. Cant make any further prediction.
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      Reply #6: Feb 27, 2021 01:14:07 pm
      Don't think it works like that anymore sadly.

      I still think top four will contain City, Chelsea and us. Cant make any further prediction.

      Sure Uefa made it a rule in 2005 after the FA saw it's arse, winner finishes outside the top 4 in their own countries league, they replace 4th place team in the competition.

      If it's been changed again, happy to concede :laugh:

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      Reply #7: Feb 27, 2021 01:32:20 pm
      4th realistically  our best Chance cant see above Mancs for top 2 Leicester may wobble but so will we on current form and injuries
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      Reply #8: Feb 27, 2021 01:40:12 pm
      West ham keeping the point they currently have at city is not part of the plan
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      Reply #9: Feb 27, 2021 01:41:59 pm
      Sure Uefa made it a rule in 2005 after the FA saw it's arse, winner finishes outside the top 4 in their own countries league, they replace 4th place team in the competition.

      If it's been changed again, happy to concede :laugh:



      Fairly certain in that scenario it would be 5 teams from that country, might have to go through qualifying though.


      I think it will be:

      1) Man City
      2) Chelsea
      3) Liverpool
      4) Man Utd

      I just sense a bit of a wobble coming for Man Utd, not sure why, also Leicester were a bit sh*t getting knocked out of Europa league and until our meltdown against them we were in control of the match, I I fancy them to fade away again. As for West Ham and Everton who knows but I'd be amazed if either one makes Top4.

      In any case for us to get to third we need to start winning matches immediately, by hook or by crook, we must find a way, Jota coming back could be huge, as could getting a settled CB pairing, Klopp needs to be brave there, no more midfielders playing CB, when Fab is back straight into midfield please.
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      Reply #10: Feb 27, 2021 01:42:32 pm
      West ham keeping the point they currently have at city is not part of the plan

      City will step through the gears second half, like we used to do :-(
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      Reply #11: Feb 27, 2021 01:46:50 pm
      Fairly certain in that scenario it would be 5 teams from that country, might have to go through qualifying though.

      Nope was changed after 2005 and the scenario with us and Everton. FA sh*t itself and refused to make a decision. Special dispensation was the reason for five teams that year. Since then been changed so that like in Spain in 2000 when the same happened with Real Madrid. Real replaced the team in 4th place in the league, that is seen by Uefa as what should happen
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      Reply #12: Feb 27, 2021 01:52:16 pm
      Tuchel is a terrible manager, made Dortmund much worse and failed at PSG. If we can find any kind of form we'll push Chelsea out of a top four place.

      Much as I hope your right what I've seen so far he's already cast his experience into the team. They were excellent against Madrid on Tuesday. Did you watch the game?
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      Reply #13: Feb 27, 2021 01:53:07 pm
      You finish fourth, we win the European cup, you lot end up back in the Europa again ;)

      Stop dreaming HR  ;D
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      Reply #14: Feb 27, 2021 01:57:13 pm
      Nope was changed after 2005 and the scenario with us and Everton. FA sh*t itself and refused to make a decision. Special dispensation was the reason for five teams that year. Since then been changed so that like in Spain in 2000 when the same happened with Real Madrid. Real replaced the team in 4th place in the league, that is seen by Uefa as what should happen


      Think I've read some where there's proposals for the 2024 season that six Premier League sides may get in the CL.
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      Reply #15: Feb 27, 2021 02:04:35 pm

      What us winning number 7?

      You should know better softlad!!
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      Reply #16: Feb 27, 2021 02:05:17 pm
      Fairly certain in that scenario it would be 5 teams from that country, might have to go through qualifying though.


      I think it will be:

      1) Man City
      2) Chelsea
      3) Liverpool
      4) Man Utd

      I just sense a bit of a wobble coming for Man Utd, not sure why, also Leicester were a bit sh*t getting knocked out of Europa league and until our meltdown against them we were in control of the match, I I fancy them to fade away again. As for West Ham and Everton who knows but I'd be amazed if either one makes Top4.

      In any case for us to get to third we need to start winning matches immediately, by hook or by crook, we must find a way, Jota coming back could be huge, as could getting a settled CB pairing, Klopp needs to be brave there, no more midfielders playing CB, when Fab is back straight into midfield please.

      We are 9 points behind Utd with 13 games left we won't catch them unless you are expecting a massive turn in our form which sadly I can't see happening enough 4th at best I am afraid
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      Reply #17: Feb 27, 2021 02:10:54 pm
      What us winning number 7?

      You should know better softlad!!

      Can't see both your predictions happening. Unless you get injured players back soon CL will be very hard looking how City & Bayern playing at the moment.
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      Reply #18: Feb 27, 2021 07:29:15 pm
      The way I see it at the minute is that Liverpool and Chelsea are battling out for 4th.

      City will be champions.
      United and Leicester 2nd and 3rd.

      I don’t think West Ham will keep up their form.
      Equally, it matters not if our form doesnt pick up as we are more likely to finish outside of Europa places at the minute, never mind top 4.
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      Reply #19: Feb 28, 2021 09:53:50 am
      Hoping utd do Chelsea. Win our own game after it then
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      Reply #20: Mar 04, 2021 08:55:17 am
      Bet some of you non believers believing now.  ;D As United - Leicester - West Ham - Chavs continue to lose points the chasing pack of wolves ready to pounce in this extraordinary season where anything can happen.

      After one week my prediction already in doubt  :lmao:
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      Reply #21: Mar 08, 2021 11:35:55 pm
      Chelsea, city, united and Leicester in next seasons champions league.

      Everton spurs and West Ham in Europa.

      Liverpool will begin the league cup in the 2nd round.
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      Reply #22: Mar 08, 2021 11:53:25 pm
      Chelsea, city, united and Leicester in next seasons champions league.

      Everton spurs and West Ham in Europa.

      Liverpool will begin the league cup in the 2nd round.

      I think Leicester will do a standard bottle job and Spurs will nab 4th at the death.
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      Reply #23: Mar 09, 2021 12:40:33 am
      Chelsea, city, united and Leicester in next seasons champions league.

      Everton spurs and West Ham in Europa.

      Liverpool will begin the league cup in the 2nd round.

      Bob, We’ll be playing CL too, we’re going to win it for the 7th time...😎
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      Reply #24: Mar 09, 2021 09:25:42 am
      Clutchfest 21

      Consider were 9th.....top 4 is a big ask but.....

      Leicester still have city utd west ham chelsea and spurs

      West ham have utd chelsea Everton leicester and Arsenal

      Everton have spurs arsenal west ham city

      All it needs is for us to stop pricking about win our remaining games and hope the 3 of them.drop enough.

      Think Chelsea and utd have 2nd and 3rd wrapped up
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      Reply #25: Mar 09, 2021 09:29:00 am
      Clutchfest 21

      Consider were 9th.....top 4 is a big ask but.....

      Leicester still have city utd west ham chelsea and spurs

      West ham have utd chelsea Everton leicester and Arsenal

      Everton have spurs arsenal west ham city

      All it needs is for us to stop pricking about win our remaining games and hope the 3 of them.drop enough.

      Think Chelsea and utd have 2nd and 3rd wrapped up

      Sorry but can't see it now, too many team are ahead of us, even if we won all our remaining games I don't think we'd make it, but we won't.

      I'd rather we focus 100% on CL, f**k the league, use it to play the youngsters and fringe players.
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      Reply #26: Mar 09, 2021 09:51:07 am
      Agree that we should concentrate on the CL, although still need to pick up points in the league, hate to finish in the bottom half of the table, however bad the season has been.
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      Reply #27: Mar 18, 2021 09:10:29 am
      Tuchel is a terrible manager, made Dortmund much worse and failed at PSG. If we can find any kind of form we'll push Chelsea out of a top four place.

      Still think he's sh*te?   ;D Not doing bad at all considering you don't rate him. Breaking records for Chavs already.
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      Reply #28: Mar 18, 2021 10:35:19 am
      Still think he's sh*te?   ;D Not doing bad at all considering you don't rate him. Breaking records for Chavs already.

      He's doing well with a very expensive and good group of players, luckily for him a lot of the under-performing ones under Lampard were German or from Germany.

      However in the same way as pundits bemoaned how bad Leipzig were against us it would be nice to hear them say the same about Ateltico, who were crap over two legs, not even close to the team who frustrated us last season.
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      Reply #29: Mar 18, 2021 11:56:41 am
      Still think he's sh*te?   ;D Not doing bad at all considering you don't rate him. Breaking records for Chavs already.

      Yes. Where the hell does his reputation come from? He's achieved nothing and his style is bland. Just heard him shouting his mouth off after the win over a really bad Atletico. Really hope we get them in the draw tomorrow. Chelsea cu*ts.
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      Reply #30: Mar 18, 2021 12:02:33 pm
      Yes. Where the hell does his reputation come from? He's achieved nothing and his style is bland. Just heard him shouting his mouth off after the win over a really bad Atletico. Really hope we get them in the draw tomorrow. Chelsea cu*ts.

      Suppose we can all be stubborn sometimes.  :lmao: Much as I don't like Chavs either you can't deny he's done a fantastic job so far. Made fat frank look average which I always thought he was anyway.

      Sometimes you just have to take your hat off and admit you may be wrong, that or take the rose tinted glasses off.  ;D
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      Reply #31: Mar 21, 2021 09:09:16 pm
      So unless Southampton win the FA cup, 7th place will now get us in Europa.
      Top 4 is still possible, and we may even win the champions league, but if not then top 7 is all we need to be in Europe.

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      Reply #32: Mar 21, 2021 09:23:03 pm
      So unless Southampton win the FA cup, 7th place will now get us in Europa.
      Top 4 is still possible, and we may even win the champions league, but if not then top 7 is all we need to be in Europe.



      Always been of the opinion like to be out of a Europa place if possible, I still do.  ;D Only like being in the comp if we reach QF stages or its just simply too many matches and takes the edge of you in the Premier League.
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      Reply #33: Mar 21, 2021 09:31:47 pm
      Always been of the opinion like to be out of a Europa place if possible, I still do.  ;D Only like being in the comp if we reach QF stages or its just simply too many matches and takes the edge of you in the Premier League.

      Yeah, if we're in the Europa the best we finsish next season is quite a distant second. I know it's not entirely rational but it always always happens.
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      Reply #34: Mar 21, 2021 09:40:12 pm
      Suppose we can all be stubborn sometimes.  :lmao: Much as I don't like Chavs either you can't deny he's done a fantastic job so far. Made fat frank look average which I always thought he was anyway.

      Sometimes you just have to take your hat off and admit you may be wrong, that or take the rose tinted glasses off.  ;D

      If he wins the CL I'll reconsider. That's never going to happen so let's wait until we see what next season brings. With that squad he should push very hard for the title and make a major impact on the CL. I mean anything can happen there, you can face great teams as soon as you are out of the group stage, but they need to show they can compete with anyone. From what I've seen of Tuchel's Chelsea a Klopp Liverpool playing in a non freak season would smash them to pieces.
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      Reply #35: Mar 21, 2021 10:04:02 pm
      If he wins the CL I'll reconsider. That's never going to happen so let's wait until we see what next season brings. With that squad he should push very hard for the title and make a major impact on the CL. I mean anything can happen there, you can face great teams as soon as you are out of the group stage, but they need to show they can compete with anyone. From what I've seen of Tuchel's Chelsea a Klopp Liverpool playing in a non freak season would smash them to pieces.

      Winning the CL in such a short space of time probably asking a little to much. However, as the saying goes, " you have to be it it to win it " I honestly couldn't rule them out the way their playing. He's transformed them it could happen.

      City and Chavs probably fav to get Haaland. If he goes to City they will do what Liverpool did in the 70s and what United did in the 90s & 00. Dominated
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      Reply #36: Apr 03, 2021 09:49:54 pm
      Top 4 defo in your grasp after today's results. Chavs & Leicester losing now means your  7 points off top 3 and more importantly only 2 points off top 4..

      GAME ON...
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      Reply #37: Apr 03, 2021 10:34:50 pm
      Top 4 defo in your grasp after today's results. Chavs & Leicester losing now means your  7 points off top 3 and more importantly only 2 points off top 4..

      GAME ON...

      I agree, I think we'll end up in third place.
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      Reply #38: Apr 05, 2021 07:59:18 pm
      I agree, I think we'll end up in third place.

      With the remaining fixtures of those fighting for 3/4th place You lot have the best run in.
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      Reply #39: Apr 11, 2021 12:10:38 pm
      How many of you lot supporting United today.  :lmao: Regarding West Ham & Leicester it's a little more complexed. Probably a draw the best result as both teams then lose two point, that or a win for Leicester arguably the best result for Liverpool.
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      Reply #40: Apr 13, 2021 03:49:23 pm
      Good question for you lads as I'm not sure what the outcome is. If United go on to win the Europa Cup does that me the 5th team qualifies for CL  providing we finish top 4 in the league?
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      Reply #41: Apr 13, 2021 04:24:34 pm
      Good question for you lads as I'm not sure what the outcome is. If United go on to win the Europa Cup does that me the 5th team qualifies for CL  providing we finish top 4 in the league?

      If United win the Europa and finish in the top 4, the 5th team does not qualify. If a team outside the top 4 wins Europa (or Champion's League) then yes, 5 teams would go.
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      Reply #42: Apr 13, 2021 04:48:40 pm
      If United win the Europa and finish in the top 4, the 5th team does not qualify. If a team outside the top 4 wins Europa (or Champion's League) then yes, 5 teams would go.

      Arh right. Thanks mate.

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