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      Stevie For Manager ...
      Feb 28, 2021 02:11:05 am
      Press talk over this weekend regarding Stevie becoming manager of LFC.

      Its always been a given that in the finest traditions of The Boot Room ....that Stevie would be offered the chance to manager the club he joined as a boy and with whom he became a legend.

      Talk is that the German Football League  The DFB   have made Jürgen their No 1 priority to replace Joachim Low who has been at the helm of the national team since 2006.   17 years.
      Low is contracted to Qatar 2022 but much would depend on this postponed years Euros Championship.

      No doubt the press also swinging off the fact of our poor run of form and Stevie's early success at Rangers this season with Gary Mac.

      Stevie knows the Academy set up and the club inside out.

      Personally I would like to give Jürgen further time to turn this temporary problem around and get us on a serious run for season
      2021-22.


      Too early for Stevie ?

      Would Stevie be the obvious choice or would FSG best hire someone outside of club traditions?

      What's Jurgens timeline here?

      Comments and discussion.




      « Last Edit: Mar 02, 2021 08:40:29 am by JD »
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #1: Feb 28, 2021 03:55:46 am
      Press talk over this weekend regarding Stevie becoming manager of LFC.
      https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-steven-gerrard-23577524

      Its always been a given that in the finest traditions of The Boot Room ....that Stevie would be offered the chance to manager the club he joined as a boy and with whom he became a legend.

      Talk is that the German Football League  The DFB   have made Jürgen their No 1 priority to replace Joachim Low who has been at the helm of the national team since 2006.   17 years.
      Low is contracted to Qatar 2022 but much would depend on this postponed years Euros Championship.

      No doubt the press also swinging off the fact of our poor run of form and Stevie's early success at Rangers this season with Gary Mac.

      Stevie knows the Academy set up and the club inside out.

      Personally I would like to give Jürgen further time to turn this temporary problem around and get us on a serious run for season
      2021-22.


      Too early for Stevie ?

      Would Stevie be the obvious choice or would FSG best hire someone outside of club traditions?

      What's Jurgens timeline here?

      Comments and discussion.

      Jürgen under contract through 2024. He has worked wonders here and restored the club to where it should be. There should be no question whatsoever about his standing here. No reason to be talking about this now.

      EDIT: I just held my nose and read that Daily Mirror story. It's good that I held my nose because the story is total horseshit. There's not a single source in it ("It's understood that..." is not a source. It's fabrication). The Germany thing is total bollocks and the Gerrard thing has no sourcing either. Yes Gerrard is someone who could manage Liverpool one day but his work at Rangers really isn't going to do anything for FSG, and again, there is no issue with Jürgen's standing at the club.
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #2: Feb 28, 2021 05:09:59 am
      Press talk over this weekend regarding Stevie becoming manager of LFC.
      https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-steven-gerrard-23577524

      Its always been a given that in the finest traditions of The Boot Room ....that Stevie would be offered the chance to manager the club he joined as a boy and with whom he became a legend.

      Talk is that the German Football League  The DFB   have made Jürgen their No 1 priority to replace Joachim Low who has been at the helm of the national team since 2006.   17 years.
      Low is contracted to Qatar 2022 but much would depend on this postponed years Euros Championship.

      No doubt the press also swinging off the fact of our poor run of form and Stevie's early success at Rangers this season with Gary Mac.

      Stevie knows the Academy set up and the club inside out.

      Personally I would like to give Jürgen further time to turn this temporary problem around and get us on a serious run for season
      2021-22.


      Too early for Stevie ?

      Would Stevie be the obvious choice or would FSG best hire someone outside of club traditions?

      What's Jurgens timeline here?

      Comments and discussion.






      Throw in Rafa too! Reading a piece by Balague earlier in the week obviously pitching himself for the Celtic job, but further in the piece we crop up and he considers himself to still have "unfinished business" here.
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      Reply #3: Feb 28, 2021 07:34:47 am
      The Mirror have ran this story in three different guises over the last few days, they seem hell bent on JK leaving us.
      The media didn't rest until Suarez left us and they've done the same with Salah and Real Madrid for a good three years, Mane also with Barca and Real and Bobby with Barca . The Mirror have always done it every year for about 10 years Ryan Giggs was signing for Inter Milan, now I'm not arsed about the Mancs but it shows what utter BS gets spouted.
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #4: Feb 28, 2021 07:40:21 am
      Throw in Rafa too! Reading a piece by Balague earlier in the week obviously pitching himself for the Celtic job, but further in the piece we crop up and he considers himself to still have "unfinished business" here.

      In 2024 Rafa may well be in the mix, Stevie may have found himself in another job then who knows but I think Klopp has every intention of seeing out his contract but the media won't stop until he's been hounded out that's the way the bas**rds work when they've got their teeth in. Hopefully Jürgen is big and strong enough to ignore all the sh*te.
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      Reply #5: Feb 28, 2021 08:07:54 am
      When Klopp does leave then I would expect the new manager to be someone who has proven themselves at the highest level and it being a purely football decision

      Right now that isn’t Gerrard and if he stays in Scotland he would need to do something in Europe

      Rafa - sorry but he may feel he has unfinished business but we have moved on now

      I would hope the club look at someone like Nagelsmann, Rose , Stephen
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      Reply #6: Feb 28, 2021 08:36:28 am
      Too early for our Ste, but having said that by the time 2024 comes round he could be ready, irrespective if he’s still at Rangers, he’s doing extremely well at the moment and he is building a very good side, but again we are being sucked into a discussion  that has no basis, ......

      All the bollocks from the Mirror or S*n and the like is exactly that, total BOLLOCKS ! ! Typical English press sing your praises to high heaven when things are going great then Sh*t on you from high as soon as there’s a sticky patch, and suddenly, Klopp is sh*t, he needs to go, Klopp has lost it, should he resign, and who should replace Klopp, have your say... and then the predictable.....is Gerrard next Liverpool boss, it’s f***in clickbait sh*te,


      ....f***in rags(oh there’s that word again) print any old sh*te for some tw*t to come along read it and believe it, I used to love that Sunday paper with headlines like, “George Best plays football on the moon”  Its a funny story but you know it’s utter bullshit but you read it anyway, well, guess f***in what....?




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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #7: Feb 28, 2021 09:01:36 am
      It’s such bollocks, I’m not even gonna post on it.


      Oh f**k, I just did 😳
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #8: Feb 28, 2021 09:14:40 am
      Yes of course, he has learned his way up. After Klopp's contract is up in 2024, it's a big yes for me.

      However, not now for sure not!
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      Reply #9: Feb 28, 2021 10:58:26 am
      No way would I risk him at the moment and the paper talk is just tw*ts in the media trying to unsettle supporters. He's nowhere near ready although showing some potential at Sevco. I'm mostly impressed with his team's performances in Europe (let's be honest the SPFL is a chronic league so not much of a test). He's not got the experience for an elite club yet especially one where he is a legend from his playing days. Will he have it in 4 or 5 years? Time will tell.
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      Reply #10: Feb 28, 2021 12:03:38 pm
      Stevie is the fantasy manager. Truth is he is not the one  yet.

      Id manage Rangers to a scottish title. Hes not proven at all yet.

      Hopefully he will be ready some day
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      Reply #11: Feb 28, 2021 12:06:33 pm
      Years away, these papers must be struggling for sh1te to write about. ;D
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #12: Feb 28, 2021 12:09:02 pm
      Press talk over this weekend regarding Stevie becoming manager of LFC.
      https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-steven-gerrard-23577524

      Its always been a given that in the finest traditions of The Boot Room ....that Stevie would be offered the chance to manager the club he joined as a boy and with whom he became a legend.

      Talk is that the German Football League  The DFB   have made Jürgen their No 1 priority to replace Joachim Low who has been at the helm of the national team since 2006.   17 years.
      Low is contracted to Qatar 2022 but much would depend on this postponed years Euros Championship.

      No doubt the press also swinging off the fact of our poor run of form and Stevie's early success at Rangers this season with Gary Mac.

      Stevie knows the Academy set up and the club inside out.

      Personally I would like to give Jürgen further time to turn this temporary problem around and get us on a serious run for season
      2021-22.


      Too early for Stevie ?

      Would Stevie be the obvious choice or would FSG best hire someone outside of club traditions?

      What's Jurgens timeline here?

      Comments and discussion.






      Manchester Echo and Mirror Skip, the Germany job has always been there but our man refuses to be put out to pasture.

      The ideal scenario would be for Stevie to be the manager’s understudy for a while until such time as the right situation prevails and he takes the reigns.

      The shitehawk manc media are going into overdrive attempting to create panic amongst the champions who piss all over them.
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      Reply #13: Feb 28, 2021 12:12:52 pm
      Years away, these papers must be struggling for sh1te to write about. ;D
      Just adding fuel to our current situation mate,( manc rag that it is) besides its been writing sh*te for decades & will continue do so mate,it’s not classed as news today it’s f**king entertainment,would sooner read about lady gaga’s dog being dognapped.
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      Reply #14: Feb 28, 2021 12:13:33 pm
      If we drop out of the top four for a couple of seasons then it's possible to see Gerrard coming straight across but if we stabilise next season then I think Stevie needs to be going to another job either in the Prem or in the top leagues abroad to build up more experience.

      What does encourage me about him is the runs to the last 16 of the Europa League back to back. Got out of some tricky groups and been competitive with some decent teams. We shouldn't forget the standard of Scottish football so his work in Europe has been fantastic.
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      Reply #15: Feb 28, 2021 12:14:28 pm
      When Klopp does leave then I would expect the new manager to be someone who has proven themselves at the highest level and it being a purely football decision

      Right now that isn’t Gerrard and if he stays in Scotland he would need to do something in Europe

      Rafa - sorry but he may feel he has unfinished business but we have moved on now

      I would hope the club look at someone like Nagelsmann, Rose , Stephen

      In fairness Stevie is doing something in Europe, in fact considerably more than Celtic did this season.

      As much as I'm critical of Jürgen I don't want to see a change straight away, ideally I'd like to see Stevie come in as assistant to Jürgen in the final year to ensure a smooth transition, but I see no reason why Stevie could not step up to the job in 2-3 years.
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      Reply #16: Feb 28, 2021 12:24:59 pm
      Stevie is the fantasy manager. Truth is he is not the one  yet.

      Id manage Rangers to a scottish title. Hes not proven at all yet.

      Hopefully he will be ready some day

      You hit the nail on the head Brian. Last thing Liverpool want to be doing is making the  same mistake as United did and voting with their heart rather than heads. We see it time and time again clubs making football legends managers all too quickly.

      Stevie making all the right noises  at Rangers which will be a good stepping stone onto his next club. However, Klopp going nowhere unless he walks. For me the only way he walks is if the club don't give him decent transfer funds.

      Anyway, this is just the usual gutter press / social media doing what they do best. FUCKING WANKERS the lot of them.
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      Reply #17: Feb 28, 2021 01:03:22 pm
      Taken a big interest in rangers since Stevie got the job up there and I’ve been very impressed. You see in Europe how well they're coached, it’s like a mixture of klopp and rafas football, an aggressive press but defensively well drilled too (although a few individual errors have let them down of late).

      I’d be split in two minds over stevie managing us. I’d love to see him in the dugout one day (how good would it be if he won the title?) but it would be unbearable to watch if we were struggling and fans started to turn on him.

      With that said, I still hope Jürgen Klopp manages us for as long as possible.

      For the time being, I hope stevie gets a job in the prem for a club that has no major rivalry with us. When arsenal sack arteta then they might go for Brendan which would free the Leicester job up. That would be a good move for him for this stage of his career.
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      Reply #18: Feb 28, 2021 01:06:33 pm
      Stevie is the fantasy manager. Truth is he is not the one  yet.

      Id manage Rangers to a scottish title. Hes not proven at all yet.

      Hopefully he will be ready some day

      Only just saw this before I posted but this is rubbish.

      You might be right in that hes not ready just yet but the job hes done at rangers has been incredible.

      It’s irrelevant how sh*t Scottish football is. He’s still gone into a club that was in huge transition, a mess in truth, stabilised them and knocked a well established force off their perch who have dominated the division for 9 years.

      He’s also got them playing superb football in Europe and has a great chance to reach the quarter finals of the uefa cup, and for rangers that’s a huge achievement, even more so when you consider hes been in the job for 3 years.

      He’s done fantastic.
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      Reply #19: Feb 28, 2021 01:53:40 pm
      Considering this debate as being hypothetical and that Klopp will see out his remaining years of his contract, Gerrard may not be the only name we should be considering, when the time comes, historically we have promoted from within Shanks to Bob, Bob to Joe, Joe to Kenny that’s nigh on 30 years of unrivalled success bar from a season or two, not saying this will be repeated but we do have a fella who I believe can do a Bob Paisley,

      Pep Ljinders for me is one of the top coaches in the world, he has a lot of in put and knowledge as part of Klopp’s coaching staff, he is not a manager as such but then again nor was Bob or Joe for that matter, but what they do/did know was how things work at Melwood now Axa, he knows all the players individually, their likes & dislikes, their individual training methods, their traits etc, a new manager coming in would have to learn all of this and that will take time, and of course a new manager’s philosophy would take time to work to,
      With Pep Ljinders the philosophy is already there, as too is the knowledge of his  players, only thing that isn’t there is his own style of play, but I doubt it would be much different form what we are seeing with Jürgen, attacking rock N roll football,

      Know one knows what will happen when Jürgen decides to hang up his snood, but I do hope that Pep Ljinders is in the minds of those who’s job it is to seek our next manager.





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      Reply #20: Feb 28, 2021 02:27:26 pm
      We've seen plenty of young managers do well at lesser clubs, only to not make it with the big ones.
      TOP top managers are hard to find.

      Am massive fan of Stevie and think he's doing a great job at Rangers, better even than I'd say most people expected when he went in there.
      But it would be a gamble for LFC to be his next job.
      Wouldn't rule him out, but would need to take time on the decision.

      Regardless, Jürgen is going nowhere - top of his list will be to regroup after this fuckpile of a year, and show people 2019/20 was not a one off. Reckon there'll be a fire under him to do that.
      And he says he's going to see out his contract, don't see any reason right now to doubt that.
      Whatever about jobs that'll be available this summer, whenever it is that he leaves us, he'll have a queue of people round the block trying to get him.
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      Reply #21: Feb 28, 2021 02:33:53 pm
      In 2024 Rafa may well be in the mix, Stevie may have found himself in another job then who knows but I think Klopp has every intention of seeing out his contract but the media won't stop until he's been hounded out that's the way the bas**rds work when they've got their teeth in. Hopefully Jürgen is big and strong enough to ignore all the sh*te.

      Has to be added that in the piece I read, within one of the answers given by Rafa he states what a brilliant job Klopp has been doing and that it would be madness to even think about replacing Klopp.
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      Reply #22: Feb 28, 2021 02:34:39 pm
      F***ing madness we have the best manager in the f**king world what the f**k is this about
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      Reply #23: Feb 28, 2021 02:36:53 pm
      I would hope the club look at someone like Nagelsmann, Rose , Stephen

      Don't get the clamour for Nagelsmann, every time I've seen his Leipzig team, they don't impress me. Reminds me of the "cos he's young" bullshit that saw BRod end up here. Haven't a clue who the Rose and Stephen you're referring to.
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      Reply #24: Feb 28, 2021 03:02:33 pm
      Don't get the clamour for Nagelsmann, every time I've seen his Leipzig team, they don't impress me. Reminds me of the "cos he's young" bullshit that saw BRod end up here. Haven't a clue who the Rose and Stephen you're referring to.


      Nagelsmann is what Klopp was like when he first started out - he is quality but it would be a risk

      Rose is current Munchengladbach manager - he has done superb with them , he is going to Dortmund next season so if he continue his trend will do well ( was great at Mainz and then Salzburg )


      Stephan is the current Rennes manager - a bit more risk but one who has a bright futur
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      Reply #25: Feb 28, 2021 03:28:04 pm
      Feel dirty talking about this while the manager is still in contract and looks to honour it.

      If it were the case that Klopp was looking to leave or the owners wanted it so before the contract ends I would love for Benitez to come back as a buffer for when Gerrard has just a little more experience.

      I think that Benitez could still have us winning trophies in the interim and leave Stevie in a strong position to pick up a squad that could really challenge on all fronts, but then again Benitez has always been annoyed at the lack of money at his disposal so it might be a fairytale for him more than a reality.
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      Reply #26: Feb 28, 2021 03:56:14 pm
      Let Jürgen finish up with the work he has started. If he has respected us and hasn’t walked, then why should we disrespect him over a couple of undesirable results? It’s one thing to sack a manager, but identifying another to replace him while he’s still on the job is a big dishonour to the man who won us a few major trophies I feel.
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      Reply #27: Feb 28, 2021 06:24:05 pm
      Let Jürgen finish up with the work he has started. If he has respected us and hasn’t walked, then why should we disrespect him over a couple of undesirable results? It’s one thing to sack a manager, but identifying another to replace him while he’s still on the job is a big dishonour to the man who won us a few major trophies I feel.

      Agree fully.
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      Reply #28: Feb 28, 2021 06:24:51 pm
      If Jürgen was to go, Stevie would and should be his replacement. He's done extremely well at Rangers. It's a difficult club to manage - plenty of pressure, not much money and up against a dominant Celtic when he took over. He's got them playing decent football (something Rangers don't necessarily do historically, even when winning) and he seems seriously good at organising a defence as well. He's been level headed and comfortable in handling a big club. He now has way more experience than eg Kenny did when he took over (and that went pretty well). He should definitely be top of any new manager list.

      However, all that is (hopefully) irrelevant, cos Jürgen is the best manager in world football, he has unfinished business here (no way should he be satisfied with just 1 title and 1 European Cup with us), and I doubt he is going anywhere.
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      Reply #29: Feb 28, 2021 08:34:47 pm
      I would have loved for him to have worked with Klopp on the sidelines for a year or two before finally taking over, but with how well he's doing at Rangers thats never going to happen.
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      Reply #30: Feb 28, 2021 09:04:19 pm
      Nah..
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      Reply #31: Feb 28, 2021 09:48:24 pm
      I think he takes over in 2024. Many will write him off, but ge has turned Rangers from a shambles into a footballing side.

      Its all relative of course, but I think his and Jurgens contract ending when they do will be no coincidence.

      Lots of times it works and lots of times it doesn't but Stevie has the skill set for the job IMO. The only thing in his way would be getting too attached. He is very focused almost to the point of it being a negative.
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      Reply #32: Mar 01, 2021 08:20:04 am
      Sentimental manager changes never worked in the past, nor will work in the future.
      Even though Steven is a totem personality for the club, I think that a possible hiring as a manager will harm him and the club as well. We cannot compare Steven's success as a manager in a league where two teams are competing (and one of them is in a shitty situation at the moment), with the Premier League. They are different universes, and Steven doesn't have the experience yet to compete in the highest level. So, in Klopp we trust. Keep Jürgen for as long as possible.
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      Reply #33: Mar 01, 2021 08:41:37 am
      I think he takes over in 2024. Many will write him off, but ge has turned Rangers from a shambles into a footballing side.

      Its all relative of course, but I think his and Jurgens contract ending when they do will be no coincidence.

      Lots of times it works and lots of times it doesn't but Stevie has the skill set for the job IMO. The only thing in his way would be getting too attached. He is very focused almost to the point of it being a negative.

      The Scottish Prem is a tough league... I’m
      No fan of Rangers but the past decade they couldn’t lay a glove on Celtic, yes Celtic have been poor but Stevie has Rangers in a position to capitalise on the mistakes the current champions are making..

      Also, No one is discussing the form Stevie has Rangers in Europe, that’s some campaign.. We can say the SPL is a 2 club league but you can’t say that about the Europa Cup..
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      Reply #34: Mar 01, 2021 08:58:00 am
      The Scottish Prem is a tough league... I’m
      No fan of Rangers but the past decade they couldn’t lay a glove on Celtic, yes Celtic have been poor but Stevie has Rangers in a position to capitalise on the mistakes the current champions are making..

      Also, No one is discussing the form Stevie has Rangers in Europe, that’s some campaign.. We can say the SPL is a 2 club league but you can’t say that about the Europa Cup..


      What Gerrard does in the Scottish Prem shouldnt ever be the marker - it’s not a tough league , it’s a league of two teams and depending on the resources available for each team will be the winner - right now Rangers have the upper hand and he has done well but it’s akin to doing well in the Championship


      Europe however is different - right now he is doing very well in the Europa Lge - the next round will be key and then next season even bigger when Rangers are in the CL - it will be tough but if he can get Rangers into the Group stages and then go up against the top teams that imo will be the barometer for how well he is doing
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      Reply #35: Mar 01, 2021 09:32:36 am

      What Gerrard does in the Scottish Prem shouldnt ever be the marker - it’s not a tough league , it’s a league of two teams and depending on the resources available for each team will be the winner - right now Rangers have the upper hand and he has done well but it’s akin to doing well in the Championship


      Europe however is different - right now he is doing very well in the Europa Lge - the next round will be key and then next season even bigger when Rangers are in the CL - it will be tough but if he can get Rangers into the Group stages and then go up against the top teams that imo will be the barometer for how well he is doing

      See that annoys me mate, Im a scottish football supporter, well society member and season ticket holder at motherwell.

      Every player that comes to scotland from so called better leagues go away saying its nothing like what people say, farmers leagues and all that sh1te.

      And apart from that, you tell me how many other leagues regularly have someone win the title that isn't from the top 2.

      Germany - Munchen win it almost every year
      France - PSG been dominating for 10 years, before that Lyon dominated for 10 years
      Italy - Juve have domianted for at least 10 years, Inter had a spell of 5 years i think, then in years past obv. Milan and others had the odd win, but still 1 or 2 teams winning most things.
      Holland mostly PSV or Ajax, with Feyenord winning the odd title

      Even England, even though its very competitive league, for 20 odd years the mancs dominated it (boring farmers league) ;D





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      Reply #36: Mar 01, 2021 09:45:19 am
      See that annoys me mate, Im a scottish football supporter, well society member and season ticket holder at motherwell.

      Every player that comes to scotland from so called better leagues go away saying its nothing like what people say, farmers leagues and all that sh1te.

      And apart from that, you tell me how many other leagues regularly have someone win the title that isn't from the top 2.

      Germany - Munchen win it almost every year
      France - PSG been dominating for 10 years, before that Lyon dominated for 10 years
      Italy - Juve have domianted for at least 10 years, Inter had a spell of 5 years i think, then in years past obv. Milan and others had the odd win, but still 1 or 2 teams winning most things.
      Holland mostly PSV or Ajax, with Feyenord winning the odd title

      Even England, even though its very competitive league, for 20 odd years the mancs dominated it (boring farmers league) ;D


      And when did a team outside Celtic and Rangers win the title ? 37 years ago ?

      You don’t even get the odd team win every now and then


      In that same period in England

      Everton , Man Utd , City , Chelsea , Arsenal , Blackburn , Leicester and Liverpool have won the league


      Italy - Inter , AC , Lazio , Juve , Roma , Napoli , Sampdoria

      It’s the same with the other leagues


      But the big pointer is the performances in Europe - when was the last time a Scottish club reached the group stage of the CL ? They have the odd run in the Europa league


      Yep it will be tough relative the teams around them but at the moment most of the teams in the division would either be at Championship or Lge 1 level

      Rangers becoming good again should have been great for the league but it’s going to be a stroll again because Celtic are poor now - the league needs both Celtic and Rangers to be strong and then add in an Aberdeen or Hearts to challenge again
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      Reply #37: Mar 01, 2021 09:47:15 am
      Rangers are having a great season - as someone who (against sectarian stereoptypes) sympathises with the hooped side of the Old Firm - thats beyond dispute.

      That said - if you think what Stevie has done there means he would be ready for the reds then youre just wrong. Celtic have imploded and been complacent. Rangers form has been terrific but they've arguably underperformed in his first two seasons.

      This isn't a Scottish fitba reservation - this is a he hasn't shown me anything as a manager that would put him near my shortlist for those to follow Jürgen reservation.
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      Reply #38: Mar 01, 2021 10:17:44 am
      Finally clicked on the link to read the 'article'. What a piece of sh*t journalism, surely in the hat for the Booker prize this year.

      No named quotes, just opinion, speculation, & stating the obvious.

      It's a what if article from a rag just above the uber rag.
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      Reply #39: Mar 01, 2021 10:27:21 am
      Finally clicked on the link to read the 'article'. What a piece of sh*t journalism, surely in the hat for the Booker prize this year.

      No named quotes, just opinion, speculation, & stating the obvious.

      It's a what if article from a rag just above the uber rag.


      Thanks you have saved me the hassle. Again this morning its all over my newsfeed and I admit it nearly sucked me in.

      You get better writing in here than in some of those papers
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      Reply #40: Mar 01, 2021 10:33:17 am

      And when did a team outside Celtic and Rangers win the title ? 37 years ago ?

      You don’t even get the odd team win every now and then


      In that same period in England

      Everton , Man Utd , City , Chelsea , Arsenal , Blackburn , Leicester and Liverpool have won the league


      Italy - Inter , AC , Lazio , Juve , Roma , Napoli , Sampdoria

      It’s the same with the other leagues


      But the big pointer is the performances in Europe - when was the last time a Scottish club reached the group stage of the CL ? They have the odd run in the Europa league


      Yep it will be tough relative the teams around them but at the moment most of the teams in the division would either be at Championship or Lge 1 level

      Rangers becoming good again should have been great for the league but it’s going to be a stroll again because Celtic are poor now - the league needs both Celtic and Rangers to be strong and then add in an Aberdeen or Hearts to challenge again

      Aberdeen is last team to win the league outside top 2 in scotland, too long ago I agree.

      Oh sorry I forgot to mention spain, just 2 teams winning everything.

      And yes scottish teams have been poor in europe in recent times, but thats primarily down to the monoply of the tv deals the English league gets and the champions league money. We will never be able to compete with that, same with all the other leagues outside of the top 5 or so countries. That doesnt mean to say very other smaller leagues are totally crap football, or farmers leagues as folk down south like to call it.

      the level of pressure on a manager at celtic & rangers is the same if not more than any big club in any other league, they both have to win every game, and then add in the pressure of the sectarian element. Stevie G is getting a very good managerial education up here.
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      Reply #41: Mar 01, 2021 10:34:11 am
      Finally clicked on the link to read the 'article'. What a piece of sh*t journalism, surely in the hat for the Booker prize this year.

      No named quotes, just opinion, speculation, & stating the obvious.

      It's a what if article from a rag just above the uber rag.


      yup. its just rubbish journos printing rubbish stories, klopp and stevie are both contracted till 2024 as well. ;D
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      Reply #42: Mar 01, 2021 10:38:14 am
      Finally clicked on the link to read the 'article'. What a piece of sh*t journalism, surely in the hat for the Booker prize this year.

      No named quotes, just opinion, speculation, & stating the obvious.

      It's a what if article from a rag just above the uber rag.

      And we're all helping it along by clicking on it, devoting a whole thread to it. Even the title here makes it look like something is up,

      AND NOTHING IS UP.  JURGEN IS STAYING.

      The basis for the article is: 1) Gerrard used to play here, is very popular and is a manager now; 2) Jürgen is from Germany; 3) The team lost some games after a rash of injuries.

      There are other threads about Steven Gerrard if someone wants to discuss what might happen with him three + years in the future or reminisce about his playing career with us.
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      Reply #43: Mar 01, 2021 04:47:27 pm
      See that annoys me mate, Im a scottish football supporter, well society member and season ticket holder at motherwell.

      Every player that comes to scotland from so called better leagues go away saying its nothing like what people say, farmers leagues and all that sh1te.

      And apart from that, you tell me how many other leagues regularly have someone win the title that isn't from the top 2.

      Germany - Munchen win it almost every year
      France - PSG been dominating for 10 years, before that Lyon dominated for 10 years
      Italy - Juve have domianted for at least 10 years, Inter had a spell of 5 years i think, then in years past obv. Milan and others had the odd win, but still 1 or 2 teams winning most things.
      Holland mostly PSV or Ajax, with Feyenord winning the odd title

      Even England, even though its very competitive league, for 20 odd years the mancs dominated it (boring farmers league) ;D







      Most of those countries you listed have teams that also win European trophies. Scotland............nada!!
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      Reply #44: Mar 01, 2021 05:10:11 pm
      Didn't Graeme Souness do well managing Rangers as well?
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      Reply #45: Mar 01, 2021 05:14:30 pm
      Didn't Graeme Souness do well managing Rangers as well?

      Yep - he did very well up on the backing of a lot of money


      Ferguson is the last manager who has moved down and done well but he broke the old firm mould and also did well in Europe

      That’s what Gerrard needs to do - success in Europe , getting to the group stage must be the bare minimum- there have been a number of small clubs from many countries that have reached the group stage

      Until he proves himself on that level then he imo shouldn’t be considered for the Liverpool job
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      Reply #46: Mar 01, 2021 05:25:04 pm
      Yep - he did very well up on the backing of a lot of money


      Ferguson is the last manager who has moved down and done well but he broke the old firm mould and also did well in Europe

      That’s what Gerrard needs to do - success in Europe , getting to the group stage must be the bare minimum- there have been a number of small clubs from many countries that have reached the group stage

      Until he proves himself on that level then he imo shouldn’t be considered for the Liverpool job

      Personally don’t think there is a black and white, absolute framework to say someone is ready or not

      It’s a feel

      What would have happened if we had turned around to Kenny, or Bob or Joe and said you need to go and prove yourself first

      Anyway it’s years away yet, we have an unbelievable manager currently and I don’t want to think of the next, Stevie or whoever until Jürgen decides it’s time to move on
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      Reply #47: Mar 01, 2021 05:34:23 pm
      Personally don’t think there is a black and white, absolute framework to say someone is ready or not

      It’s a feel

      What would have happened if we had turned around to Kenny, or Bob or Joe and said you need to go and prove yourself first

      Anyway it’s years away yet, we have an unbelievable manager currently and I don’t want to think of the next, Stevie or whoever until Jürgen decides it’s time to move on


      It is that black and white for me - when Klopp does leave then i would want a proven manager at the highest level to come in


      We did use to promote from within but the game has moved on a lot since then
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      Reply #48: Mar 01, 2021 07:00:09 pm
      The Mirror have ran this story in three different guises over the last few days, they seem hell bent on JK leaving us.
      The media didn't rest until Suarez left us and they've done the same with Salah and Real Madrid for a good three years, Mane also with Barca and Real and Bobby with Barca . The Mirror have always done it every year for about 10 years Ryan Giggs was signing for Inter Milan, now I'm not arsed about the Mancs but it shows what utter BS gets spouted.


      It’s click bait ... they do it because LFC fans are more likely to click on the link if they are worried Klopp is going than if it’s a positive good-news story
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      Reply #49: Mar 01, 2021 07:33:50 pm
      Didn't Graeme Souness do well managing Rangers as well?

      He did. Cautionary tale.
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      Reply #50: Mar 01, 2021 09:23:58 pm
      The vast majority of fans are far too clued up to take much notice of the rubbish wrote in the gutter press. Who after all are only trying to sell newspapers. Stevie Gerrard maybe doing a fine job in managing Rangers, but this is obviously not the time to step in to to the role as manager of a club such as ours.

      Further more it stands to reason we have the best manager available in Jürgen Klopp. I sincerely hope like most fans that he sees out his contract until 2024.
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      Reply #51: Mar 01, 2021 09:31:52 pm
      It’s embarrassing this thread is still up IMHO.
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      Reply #52: Mar 01, 2021 09:45:50 pm
      It’s embarrassing this thread is still up IMHO.

      Nothing wrong with free debate/discussion even if you disagree with it. It is a forum after all.
       
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      Reply #53: Mar 01, 2021 09:58:29 pm
      Nothing wrong with free debate/discussion even if you disagree with it. It is a forum after all.
       

      It’s founded upon speculation from a terrible news source who’s constantly after the next click bait. My issue is with the timing of it and the not so thinkly veiled attempt to kick a man when his down shame so many have bought  into it.
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      Reply #54: Mar 02, 2021 08:32:59 am
      Yep - he did very well up on the backing of a lot of money


      Ferguson is the last manager who has moved down and done well but he broke the old firm mould and also did well in Europe



      He always thought his Aberdeen team could win the European Cup - until they met Paisley's Reds!!
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      Reply #55: Mar 02, 2021 02:07:52 pm

      It is that black and white for me - when Klopp does leave then i would want a proven manager at the highest level to come in


      We did use to promote from within but the game has moved on a lot since then




      Define highest level, for me we already have the highest level, so who is better than Jürgen, Pep G ? These two are the highest in European if not the world, up there would be Zidane but not so recently, Simeone the same ,
      Flick at Bayern M would be a able candidate but would he leave Munich for Liverpool, can’t see it myself,

      Anyone  else for me would be a level down, unless of course the likes of a Nagelsman proves his worth between now and Jürgen hanging up his snood, and this where I think our own Pep Ljinders has a more than decent shout, no one knew for sure that Bob Paisley would have the success he did, forget the, oh that was the old days, we’ve moved on now, no sorry don’t buy that at all, who else knows more about our players than our No2 ?

      Jürgen himself would admit that a lot of impetus comes from those he considers his most trusted lieutenants, Pep & Pete, along with all the others on his staff, they themselves are a team looking after the team,
      I’m not saying Pep Ljinders should be our next boss, however his knowledge, his expertise & his coaching abilities should not be ignored for someone else who would have to learn all that Pep knows already, and perhaps have to reinvent the wheel ?




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      Reply #56: Mar 03, 2021 10:41:06 am
      Most of those countries you listed have teams that also win European trophies. Scotland............nada!!

      This true but still 2 big clubs are dominant.
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      Reply #57: Mar 03, 2021 11:07:46 am
      I'm in two minds about whether I would like Stevie G on the side lines as our manager.

      This season has proven more than any other how the media and the like can turn on a manager when a bad patch occurs - despite the problems we have with injuries. Its not as if we have been anywhere near full strength this year and performed badly - I would agree with media getting on a managers back then. It would be a shame for Stevie to come across a bad patch and then have the media and more importantly fans on his back when things don't go well.
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      Reply #58: Mar 03, 2021 11:24:26 am

      And when did a team outside Celtic and Rangers win the title ? 37 years ago ?

      You don’t even get the odd team win every now and then


      In that same period in England

      Everton , Man Utd , City , Chelsea , Arsenal , Blackburn , Leicester and Liverpool have won the league


      Italy - Inter , AC , Lazio , Juve , Roma , Napoli , Sampdoria

      It’s the same with the other leagues


      But the big pointer is the performances in Europe - when was the last time a Scottish club reached the group stage of the CL ? They have the odd run in the Europa league


      Yep it will be tough relative the teams around them but at the moment most of the teams in the division would either be at Championship or Lge 1 level

      Rangers becoming good again should have been great for the league but it’s going to be a stroll again because Celtic are poor now - the league needs both Celtic and Rangers to be strong and then add in an Aberdeen or Hearts to challenge again

      I don't really understand your argument here, no one is disputing that the Scottish league is weaker than the Prem but having said that everyone expected Celtic to cruise to another title this season so what Stevie has done in winning by a huge margin AND progressing very well in Europe is a brilliant job. Now whether or not that translates to managing a Prem team is a different discussion, but I think its a pretty good indicator, plenty of managers have come from the Scottish leagues and done very well so there is no reason why Stevie can't. I think 2024 would be a perfect time for him to take over.

      BTW I notice that you missed out the Spanish and German leagues, I wonder why ;-)
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      Reply #59: Mar 03, 2021 12:00:21 pm


      Define highest level, for me we already have the highest level, so who is better than Jürgen, Pep G ? These two are the highest in European if not the world, up there would be Zidane but not so recently, Simeone the same ,
      Flick at Bayern M would be a able candidate but would he leave Munich for Liverpool, can’t see it myself,



      Football moves pretty fast, I think if Klopp does end up leaving in 2024 then it's a possibility that a lot of us might not even be familiar with his replacement at this present time.

      Klopp himself only really started getting wider European recognition around 2011/2012 after winning titles with Dortmund, and probably only became a household name after guiding them to the European Cup final in 2013. I believe he was approached by United around that time too as an initial successor to Alex Ferguson. So from 2010 - 2013 he went from being a pretty unfamiliar name to the average football fan to being headhunted by one of the biggest clubs in the world. That's why I don't really see any point in touting potential replacements for somebody who is probably going to be here for at least another 3 and a bit years, because I think there'll be a lot of managers moving in and out of the forefront during that time. A relative unknown in 2021 could be one of the most sought after managers in the world by the time 2024 comes around

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      Reply #60: Mar 04, 2021 12:29:19 pm
      Still bobbing about the rumour and speculation circuit this one!
      The truth is the shitehawks of the manc media cannot wait for Jürgen's departure from LFC.
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      Reply #61: Mar 08, 2021 03:56:03 pm
      Stevie is to busy celebrating his teams title win,to be bothered about all this media crap.
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      Reply #62: Mar 08, 2021 04:17:42 pm
      Took Stevie 3 years to master a poor league and he had a big hand off Celtic being dire this year.

      Be a disaster if Jürgen goes and Stevie comes in, hes not ready and imagine the reaction on here when he didnt nail it in the first season or 2..

      Ideal to leave him at Rangers another year see how he goes in the champions league. A year or 2 then at a prem lge club like Newcastle and then in 2024 when Jürgen is done, if hes done, Stevie, if proven himself, steps in

      This is not a fairytale where we give the job to him because its Stevoe then he goes and wins it all
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      Reply #63: Mar 08, 2021 06:37:07 pm
      Disrespectful to  link him with any club ,whilst he is on a contract with a club he is very happy with ,the fans adore him ,players respect him ,and the board have a great relationship with him.   As for Newcastle, Rangers are a bigger club than them, why would go there under Ashley?just ask our LFC ex managers how they done there.                                                                                                                       
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      Reply #64: Mar 08, 2021 06:48:52 pm
      Disrespectful to  link him with any club ,whilst he is on a contract with a club he is very happy with ,the fans adore him ,players respect him ,and the board have a great relationship with him.   As for Newcastle, Rangers are a bigger club than them, why would go there under Ashley?just ask our LFC ex managers how they done there.                                                                                                                       

      Newcastle were used as an example of a premier league club he could prove himself at. Could have easily have said Wolves or Villa etc
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      Reply #65: Mar 08, 2021 07:06:38 pm
      This talk is sickening what's up with you lot, we have Jürgen Klopp as our manager and long may it be so
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      Reply #66: Mar 08, 2021 07:35:29 pm
      Its is sickening,both managers are under contract ,i think Stevie will be at Rangers for the long hall ,Klopp will prove them all wrong.
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      Reply #67: Mar 08, 2021 08:43:27 pm
      No thanks, not ready just yet!
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      Reply #68: Mar 08, 2021 09:36:45 pm

      And when did a team outside Celtic and Rangers win the title ? 37 years ago ?

      You don’t even get the odd team win every now and then


      In that same period in England

      Everton , Man Utd , City , Chelsea , Arsenal , Blackburn , Leicester and Liverpool have won the league


      Italy - Inter , AC , Lazio , Juve , Roma , Napoli , Sampdoria

      It’s the same with the other leagues


      But the big pointer is the performances in Europe - when was the last time a Scottish club reached the group stage of the CL ? They have the odd run in the Europa league


      Yep it will be tough relative the teams around them but at the moment most of the teams in the division would either be at Championship or Lge 1 level

      Rangers becoming good again should have been great for the league but it’s going to be a stroll again because Celtic are poor now - the league needs both Celtic and Rangers to be strong and then add in an Aberdeen or Hearts to challenge again

      Poor Leeds didn't even get a mention  :o :o :o
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      Reply #69: Mar 08, 2021 09:46:59 pm
      Stevie’s day as manager will come, and he will bring home his elusive title I have no doubt about it. We however have a great manager at the helm, and Juergen has got a lot left in him yet. As many other have said one for the mid to long term future, not within the next 5 years.
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      Reply #70: Mar 09, 2021 09:14:34 am
      Poor Leeds didn't even get a mention  :o :o :o

      Cos they're scruffy woollyback tw*ts!!
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      Reply #71: Mar 10, 2021 12:43:34 pm
      Lock it up, Stevie agrees with the majority of us. If I had a clue how to add his comments I would
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      Reply #72: Mar 10, 2021 03:45:09 pm
      Lock it up, Stevie agrees with the majority of us. If I had a clue how to add his comments I would


      Liverpool fans devoted to Jürgen Klopp, says Rangers boss Steven Gerrard

      "The Liverpool fans don't want me to be the manager," Gerrard, 40, told ITV.

      "They want Jürgen Klopp to continue to be the Liverpool manager - and I'm totally with all of them.

      "We shouldn't talk about this. We have one of the best managers leading our club at the minute. I love him.

      "I've got a job here. I don't think it's helpful to talk about this and I hope Jürgen stays at Liverpool for many years."


      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56341583


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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #73: Mar 10, 2021 11:08:00 pm
      Stevie spoke perfectly when asked about the Klopp 'situation' Hopefully he'll speak just as well when he's won his first league title with us around 2030...
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      Re: Stevie For Manager ...
      Reply #74: Mar 12, 2021 08:07:41 am
      Leave Stevie G for three years more in Glasgow and then move him to Liverpool. Let him continue his training.

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