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      Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion

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      HamannsTheMan
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #850: Mar 08, 2021 05:30:41 pm
      Heimdall no doubt winds people up. Does he do it for that sole intention or is he posting his honest opinion and that opinion gets under peoples skin?

      For me its the second one. If he was a full on wind up merchant I dont think he would post some of the good stuff he posts. I also think with some of the flack he would have pissed off a long while back.

      I could be wrong but thsts the impression I get. Seen some proper wind up artists on here over the years.

      Id be more dubious if he only popped up in the same 2 or 3 topics over and over but he pretty much gets involved in the lot.

      Hope im right 😂😂

      I used to feel the same and thought he had it rough on here for just stating his thoughts - ones I agreed with myself at times.

      But the last few weeks I’ve changed my opinion. I just can’t understand how any genuine Liverpool supporter would want jurgen to be sacked.

      You’re right though, he’s got some bloody determination if he is a blag red I’ll give him that.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #851: Mar 08, 2021 05:34:28 pm
      If anything these last 3 months has shown is we need a goal scoring No 9 and seeing as though most teams have cottoned onto stopping our creativity from the full backs we need an a attacking Midfielder.

      Not sure Naby can be trusted in that Dept.

      Quite simply we have become to predictable.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #852: Mar 08, 2021 05:35:03 pm
      I can clear up the Heimi thing.

      He's a tw*t.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #853: Mar 08, 2021 05:39:28 pm
      I can clear up the Heimi thing.

      He's a tw*t.

      And thats the end of that chapter!! 😂😂
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #854: Mar 08, 2021 06:24:22 pm
      Thanks for at least being civil.  My support for this club never changes, whether its good or bad times, why the f**k do you think I'm on here, oh yeah its just wumming isn't it!! zzzzzzzz

      i think it should be clear to everyone how much I love this club, but whereas you all think that Jürgen can pull this around I sadly don't any more. Does that mean I hate Klopp or think any less of his achievements, absolutely not, I love the guy like you all do. I just happen to think he has got to a point where we need a change, for whatever reason, and no its not injuries or covid or lack of fans etc etc, the players are not motivated, not fired up and that is on Klopp and its almost impossible to turn that around for anyone.

      The best for all parties would be if Klopp announces he is leaving at the end of the season to give the club plenty of time to find his replacement.


      You always will be a plastic social media fan with f**k all connection to the club - sooner you f**k off and support your local club the better
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #855: Mar 08, 2021 06:24:46 pm
      I can clear up the Heimi thing.

      He's a tw*t.


      Have to disagree- tw*ts have a use
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #856: Mar 08, 2021 06:25:40 pm
      What I am mystified is someone who people clearly do not like has over 2000 liked posts dont get it
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #857: Mar 08, 2021 06:43:58 pm
      Agree Billy,supporting LFC since my first game 1973,come down regular from Scotland ticket or not,as you get older you understand to be more calm, some fans take their frustrations on a football team,but agree with you some comments a bit too nasty .TOGETHER WE ARE LIVERPOOL.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #858: Mar 08, 2021 09:01:31 pm
      The gf posted?

      You sure there is a girlfriend we all remember the Alexi Sanchez deal being turned down because his wife wanted to live in London, turned out he wasn’t married 🤣



      Yep was posted all over twitter, she was signing off messages to all her friends with YNWA

      Then Marseille told us to pretty much f**k off.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #859: Mar 08, 2021 09:32:39 pm
      When I talk to somebody who supports Liverpool but aren’t from the city Im always curious to know why they chose us. Was it a certain player, was it down to our success, have they got family members here and so on. It’s always interesting finding out what drew them to us.

      One thing that regularly gets brought up from my experiences are how together we are as a club and the city in general. People understand that we’re quite unique in that way and they want to be a part of it. You’ll never walk alone and so on. It’s something that many reds feel proud about and it’s our whole identity.

      You on the other hand, are calling for our manager to leave after two months of poor results. I’m 33 years of age now and this manager you want rid of has given experiences I’ve never had before, and at one point never thought I would. What jurgen has done in his brief time here has been nothing short of remarkable and you’re calling for his head. You won’t even allow him the opportunity to turn things around and want him dismissed because in your opinion he’s incapable of doing so - how do you know before you even give him the chance? After everything he’s done for us, how can you not give him that?

      I’m surprised you’ve mentioned 95 there because I honestly thought you were about 15 and was part of this current bratty generation who troll the internet and want managers sacked every five minutes. But you’re presumably a bit older than me.

      You’re nothing like a Liverpool supporter. You’re the complete opposite so I’m baffled to why you chose us. You’re far more suited to supporting Chelsea.

      I reckon you’re a blue pretending to be a Norwegian anyway. You talk too much sh*t to be a red.






      Mate, I’m a wool too, but I get Liverpool, I get scousers, I’m from Glasgow so our cities are very similar both in culture & socially, we share working class roots socialism etc, I fell in love with LFC in 1976, mainly because I was sick of all the sectarian bullshit from either side of my city,

      In 1982 I moved down South and was fortunate to become part of a LFC supporters club and became a regular kopite until 1990, since then I’ve only visited now & again tickets permitted, I’ve witnessed the highs and unfortunately the lows, in particular 1989 which will live in me forever, I am 59 years old and I am privileged to be a supporter of this club,

      One thing that sticks with me is the fight & passion I have witnessed down the years from Scousers, I’ve seen the same fight & passion from my own ppl, I am truly honoured to have stood on the Kop with fellow Reds and would love to do so again,

      This is the difference between fans around the world who have good intentions in supporting our club, but they won’t fully understand what it truly means to be a scouser and what LFC means to them, I wouldn’t say I totally understand either but I think I’m close enough,

      What I don’t get though is why the likes of Heimdall can support LFC but not understand what the club stands for, it’s well documented that he is of a blue persuasion politically , so like yourself it bemuses me why he’s not Chelsea, a Tory & Liverpool never mix well, and with respect he doesn’t mix well in these boards either, it’s obvious to me he simply doesn’t get this club or it’s people, probably why he continues with his Klopp out mantra.

      Your right, he does talk too much sh*te to be a true Red!




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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #860: Mar 08, 2021 10:03:21 pm
      We need at least 10 squad players out and 5 new quality players in so a good sized overhaul.

      In:
      CB
      Gini Replacement
      Milner Replacement
      Creative midfielder
      Goal scoring forward

      Lots of business to he done this Summer if we want to be ready to challenge next season.






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      CB...................... ...Konate
      Gini replacement.....Gravenbe rch
      Milner replacement..Milner
      Creative midfielder...Grealish
      Attacking midfield....Sancho
      Goal scorer FWD......Jiminez


      Milner one more season mainly off the bench, can’t buy his experience, Hendo to take over if he can stay fit, all pie in the sky of course but we all have dreams don’t we ?
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #861: Mar 09, 2021 12:57:21 am
      My first post since the game. So disappointed, but it seemed a nailed on result even though I predicted a win for us. Its clear, as someone mentioned earlier, the lads don't look motivated, or they are just too nervous to play their own game  due to the lack of success its brought this year.
      If its a motivation issue from the dressing room, new blood needs to be brought in asap to rekindle that passion. Some saying just chuck millions into the kitty for players, but thats not the answer. they have to be players that fit, not just big names, and were not bankrolled like city and the chavs.
      There was talk of Mbappe wanting to move here in the summer, huge buy and even bigger wage demands. Perhaps thats unsettling for a couple of players. Whatever it is, its not gonna get better any time soon regards new blood, so we better just keep su[pporting the lads, and hope they can turn it around. I'm sure they want to as much as us.
      Regards Selection and strange subs. Jürgen does have a coach who would no doubt be discussing things with him and even advising. So have they both lost the plot ? or have the players lost faith in how they are asked to perform.
      I'm not sure it isn't just the players being worn out. Cant remember seeing Robbo, Mane or Mo, just push the ball past the defender and turn the after burners on. They are all guilty of turning around and going sideways or backwards. And thats often on the counter when the opposition have a few players stranded up the pitch. They've either lost belief, or their legs just haven't got it any more.
      Gini doesn't want to play for us anymore, so get him the f**k out of there, and put anyone in who has some desire.
      As for togetherness, that fella who smashes the ball into Mane's head, in Souness's days, 10-15 mins later and that fuckers going off on a stretcher.
      Theres like a virus running through the squad, and not covid either, something is festering in there thats causing some sort of unrest or disbelief.
      I'm not happy to see it, but I'm happy to go along with the ride until something sorts it out. I'm sure we'll come good again, just keep the faith, don't despair, we are LIVERPOOL.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #862: Mar 09, 2021 02:40:12 am
      My first post since the game. So disappointed, but it seemed a nailed on result even though I predicted a win for us. Its clear, as someone mentioned earlier, the lads don't look motivated, or they are just too nervous to play their own game  due to the lack of success its brought this year.
      If its a motivation issue from the dressing room, new blood needs to be brought in asap to rekindle that passion. Some saying just chuck millions into the kitty for players, but thats not the answer. they have to be players that fit, not just big names, and were not bankrolled like city and the chavs.
      There was talk of Mbappe wanting to move here in the summer, huge buy and even bigger wage demands. Perhaps thats unsettling for a couple of players. Whatever it is, its not gonna get better any time soon regards new blood, so we better just keep su[pporting the lads, and hope they can turn it around. I'm sure they want to as much as us.
      Regards Selection and strange subs. Jürgen does have a coach who would no doubt be discussing things with him and even advising. So have they both lost the plot ? or have the players lost faith in how they are asked to perform.
      I'm not sure it isn't just the players being worn out. Cant remember seeing Robbo, Mane or Mo, just push the ball past the defender and turn the after burners on. They are all guilty of turning around and going sideways or backwards. And thats often on the counter when the opposition have a few players stranded up the pitch. They've either lost belief, or their legs just haven't got it any more.
      Gini doesn't want to play for us anymore, so get him the f**k out of there, and put anyone in who has some desire.
      As for togetherness, that fella who smashes the ball into Mane's head, in Souness's days, 10-15 mins later and that fuckers going off on a stretcher.
      Theres like a virus running through the squad, and not covid either, something is festering in there thats causing some sort of unrest or disbelief.
      I'm not happy to see it, but I'm happy to go along with the ride until something sorts it out. I'm sure we'll come good again, just keep the faith, don't despair, we are LIVERPOOL.

      Good post mate, yep it's pretty much since that alleged incident happened between Ali and Robbo. They all denying it and wiping it off as all bullshit, trying to show us none of that sh*t happens at our Club, but what if it actually did happen and is the catalyst for their lack of everything at the moment?
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #863: Mar 09, 2021 08:17:20 am

      If that floats your boat go for it pal, have fun.

      I'd have much more fun rocking up to your front door in Milton Keynes.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #864: Mar 09, 2021 09:40:07 am
      Heimdall no doubt winds people up. Does he do it for that sole intention or is he posting his honest opinion and that opinion gets under peoples skin?

      For me its the second one. If he was a full on wind up merchant I dont think he would post some of the good stuff he posts. I also think with some of the flack he would have pissed off a long while back.

      I could be wrong but thsts the impression I get. Seen some proper wind up artists on here over the years.

      Id be more dubious if he only popped up in the same 2 or 3 topics over and over but he pretty much gets involved in the lot.

      Hope im right 😂😂

      You are right and thanks.

      I know I piss people off with my opinions, its not my intention I just want to share my thoughts/concerns and have a debate. However when people attack me I will counter punch, that's just in my nature.

      If people actually engage with me in civil debate I will sometimes change my opinion if presented with good and convincing  arguments.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #865: Mar 09, 2021 09:41:58 am
      If anything these last 3 months has shown is we need a goal scoring No 9 and seeing as though most teams have cottoned onto stopping our creativity from the full backs we need an a attacking Midfielder.

      Not sure Naby can be trusted in that Dept.

      Quite simply we have become to predictable.

      Apart from the squad being burned out after the last three seasons I think you have it in a nutshell mate.

      A rethink and refresh is badly needed in the summer.

      I said last week we need at least two quality starting players but if we only were able to get one then a CF would be my priority.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #866: Mar 09, 2021 09:52:37 am





      Mate, I’m a wool too, but I get Liverpool, I get scousers, I’m from Glasgow so our cities are very similar both in culture & socially, we share working class roots socialism etc, I fell in love with LFC in 1976, mainly because I was sick of all the sectarian bullshit from either side of my city,

      In 1982 I moved down South and was fortunate to become part of a LFC supporters club and became a regular kopite until 1990, since then I’ve only visited now & again tickets permitted, I’ve witnessed the highs and unfortunately the lows, in particular 1989 which will live in me forever, I am 59 years old and I am privileged to be a supporter of this club,

      One thing that sticks with me is the fight & passion I have witnessed down the years from Scousers, I’ve seen the same fight & passion from my own ppl, I am truly honoured to have stood on the Kop with fellow Reds and would love to do so again,

      This is the difference between fans around the world who have good intentions in supporting our club, but they won’t fully understand what it truly means to be a scouser and what LFC means to them, I wouldn’t say I totally understand either but I think I’m close enough,

      What I don’t get though is why the likes of Heimdall can support LFC but not understand what the club stands for, it’s well documented that he is of a blue persuasion politically , so like yourself it bemuses me why he’s not Chelsea, a Tory & Liverpool never mix well, and with respect he doesn’t mix well in these boards either, it’s obvious to me he simply doesn’t get this club or it’s people, probably why he continues with his Klopp out mantra.

      Your right, he does talk too much sh*te to be a true Red!




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      What utter nonsense, you can't be a Tory and Support Liverpool FC, WOW. Is that some kind of cancel culture WOKE sh*t.  BTW I don't recognise this Conservative government as Tory, they'd ve shunted so far over to the middle ground that they are more similar to the Liberal party, but that's another discussion.


      You guys really need to get into the 21st Century, Liverpool FC doesn't really belong to Liverpool anymore, it has massively outgrown Liverpool as a city. Its reach far exceeds that of the city and if you had no fans outside of Liverpool, then you'd be the size of Tranmere with the same level of success so stop with this xenophobic crap, trying to link a 100% capitalist football club business with the socialist roots from the city, its absurd.
      « Last Edit: Mar 09, 2021 10:04:10 am by heimdall »
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #867: Mar 09, 2021 09:55:40 am
      Apart from the squad being burned out after the last three seasons I think you have it in a nutshell mate.

      A rethink and refresh is badly needed in the summer.

      I said last week we need at least two quality starting players but if we only were able to get one then a CF would be my priority.


      Why is the city squad not mentally burnt out??
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #868: Mar 09, 2021 10:03:58 am

      Why is the city squad not mentally burnt out??

      Like I've said a couple of times, pretty sure to yourself as well, they did show an element of this last season.

      Lost 9 games and were out of any title race pretty much by Xmas.

      The difference with us and them is they're squad cost about a billion pounds and can recover quicker.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #869: Mar 09, 2021 10:12:17 am

      Why is the city squad not mentally burnt out??

      When Pep took over they had already won it. Theres no intense pressure like we have. Thats underestimated.

      Jürgen came in starting from scratch. Brought a new intensity. Landed the ling awaited title after a European cup

      City have not landed the one they want, the European cup so they have no reason to drop off they still are not done.

      Now that does not excuse us. Nothing excuses our form. But 3 or 4 years of high intensity all goals reached can lead to a drop off added to the team not lining out the same for any 2 games
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      Reply #870: Mar 09, 2021 10:16:40 am
      When Pep took over they had already won it. Theres no intense pressure like we have. Thats underestimated.

      Jürgen came in starting from scratch. Brought a new intensity. Landed the ling awaited title after a European cup

      City have not landed the one they want, the European cup so they have no reason to drop off they still are not done.

      Now that does not excuse us. Nothing excuses our form. But 3 or 4 years of high intensity all goals reached can lead to a drop off added to the team not lining out the same for any 2 games

      OK, that's a fair point and I can understand a drop off in intensity, but surely not to the level we are seeing. What I find most disappointing with Jürgen is that he hasn't changed his game plan/tactics to cope with the drop off in intensity, for example switch us to more of a counter attacking team with a lower defensive line, like we were in his first few years in charge.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #871: Mar 09, 2021 10:41:14 am

      What utter nonsense, you can't be a Tory and Support Liverpool FC, WOW. Is that some kind of cancel culture WOKE sh*t.  BTW I don't recognise this Conservative government as Tory, they'd ve shunted so far over to the middle ground that they are more similar to the Liberal party, but that's another discussion.


      You guys really need to get into the 21st Century, Liverpool FC doesn't really belong to Liverpool anymore, it has massively outgrown Liverpool as a city. Its reach far exceeds that of the city and if you had no fans outside of Liverpool, then you'd be the size of Tranmere with the same level of success so stop with this xenophobic crap, trying to link a 100% capitalist football club business with the socialist roots from the city, its absurd.




      I didn’t say you can’t be a Tory and support Liverpool I said Tories & Liverpool don’t mix well, stop changing things I said, and this what I mean, you just don’t f***in get it do you, and never will cos now your just being the c**t you are, yes we are a global entity but we never lose our identity as a local football club, that will always be there from 1892 to present day, you being from Norway will never ever understand our culture in the UK and in particular regionally, you will never ever understand what means to be a Liverpudlian supporting Liverpool FC, because it’s in their DNA,

      Same as I wouldn’t expect to know what the culture is like in your country, nor what the fabric is being a supporter say of Molde, so f**k of with your patronising f***in bullshit, we welcome all supporters from all over the world but none of them will ever understand truly what being a fan of this club means more than local supporters, and if you had anything about you you would know that Tories in Liverpool are as welcome as a doze of the clap, Tory C**t !
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #872: Mar 09, 2021 10:54:52 am





      Wish list...

      CB...................... ...Konate
      Gini replacement.....Gravenbe rch
      Milner replacement..Milner
      Creative midfielder...Grealish
      Attacking midfield....Sancho
      Goal scorer FWD......Jiminez


      Milner one more season mainly off the bench, can’t buy his experience, Hendo to take over if he can stay fit, all pie in the sky of course but we all have dreams don’t we ?

      Would take all those players mate. Would preferably go for a younger striker over Jimenez though plus it's hard to know what effect the brain injury he suffered will have on his performances once he's back.

      Haaland would be the ultimate striker signing but not sure we could ever afford him.

      We might also be priced out of Sancho in which case Raphinha would be my pick for RW.

      I think Milly's age has almost caught up with him he seems to be struggling now with the physical demands which is totally understandable. But would still keep him around the squad for his positive influence.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #873: Mar 09, 2021 10:58:29 am
      When I talk to somebody who supports Liverpool but aren’t from the city Im always curious to know why they chose us. Was it a certain player, was it down to our success, have they got family members here and so on. It’s always interesting finding out what drew them to us.



      Would be an interestlng topic
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      Re: Liverpool 0-1 Fulham: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #874: Mar 09, 2021 11:03:37 am
      OK, that's a fair point and I can understand a drop off in intensity, but surely not to the level we are seeing. What I find most disappointing with Jürgen is that he hasn't changed his game plan/tactics to cope with the drop off in intensity, for example switch us to more of a counter attacking team with a lower defensive line, like we were in his first few years in charge.




      Because he can’t you Tory c**t, the spine has been ripped out of the side, midfielders playing as CB’s now injured one back, after years of drilling the players into a system that they can play with their eyes closed you can’t just wave a magic wand and expect the same depleted squad to perform to a different tune, how many time have we played and screamed for more pace, up the tempo, etc, that’s how we play that’s the intensity we have trained at for three years,
      We have no solid defence, fragmented into different, pairings who don’t know each other from Adam, a central midfield with no steel, no leadership, no cohesion, and a mis- firing front three who couldn’t score down a side alley with a fiver,

      Don’t you think Jürgen Pep & Pete K have thought about this, of course they have, and decided against it, it’s been a f***in nightmare ten weeks, but there are signs the tide is turning, Fabinho back, Naby back, Jota back, and with them so will confidence, Hendo will follow soon too, this run of sh*t will end, starting from tomorrow night.

      I know it’s hard for you but try, just try and believe that you can be a half decent fan, and not just a wum !

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