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      Mar 11, 2021 10:06:29 am
      Mods delete or move as appropriate.

      Didnt want yo throw into the the general transfer/gossip talk as its neither. Its more a discussion on players who individuals think might add to our squad and why.

      Last night I was hugely impressed with Leipzigs Klosterman. He played on the left of the back 3 and did a solid job, even more so when you consider his main position is right full.

      Hes 24 now so coming towards his peak. Think he could be got for the 25 millon mark. He would challenge/cover Ttent, fhus allowing Neco out on loan. He can play centre back and, as seen last night, is comfortable on the left of a back 3 should we ever look to go 3 at the back
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      Reply #1: Mar 11, 2021 10:14:41 am
      Mods delete or move as appropriate.

      Didnt want yo throw into the the general transfer/gossip talk as its neither. Its more a discussion on players who individuals think might add to our squad and why.

      Last night I was hugely impressed with Leipzigs Klosterman. He played on the left of the back 3 and did a solid job, even more so when you consider his nain pisition is right full.

      Hes 24 now so coming towards his peak. Think he could be got for the 25 millon mark. He would challenge/cover Ttent, fhus allowing Neco out on loan. He can play centre back and, as seen last night, is comfortable on the left of a back 3 should we ever look to go 3 at the back

      Really? Interesting why him keen to hear? He looks robust and awkward on the ball plus I think he’s second fiddle to City reject - Angelino.
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      Reply #2: Mar 11, 2021 10:20:56 am
      Really? Interesting why him keen to hear? He looks robust and awkward on the ball plus I think he’s second fiddle to City reject - Angelino.

      As I just said he looked very solid last night and that was playing out of position.

      He opens up options to three positions across the back line.

      Thought he done a decent job on Mo. Is in the German setup to so obviously doing something right?
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      Reply #3: Mar 11, 2021 10:33:59 am
      As I just said he looked very solid last night and that was playing out of position.

      He opens up options to three positions across the back line.

      Thought he done a decent job on Mo. Is in the German setup to so obviously doing something right?

      I think Mo had him on toast very easily on a few occasions and he was easily done on the second goal too by Origi. In fact all 3 at the back looked average and I was glad we swerved Upemecampo.

      Players I was looking forward to seeing were some of their attacking mids like Forsberg,Olmo and the captain Salbitzer all 3 underperformed. Thought their best player was Nkunku but I vaguely recall he popped up at Newcastle and didn’t make it.
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      Reply #4: Mar 11, 2021 01:01:05 pm
      I would like us to have a look at Pedro Neto. Can play at either wing, is very fast, technically very sure and ha sa great shot in him. Scored some great goals this season at Wolves.
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      Reply #5: Mar 11, 2021 03:51:02 pm
      If we have to put every penny of our budget into landing Haaland, or Mbappe we could still land 2 or 3 tip players on frees.

      For example Jerome Boateng and Julian Draxler are out of contract this summer.
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      Reply #6: Mar 11, 2021 04:32:01 pm
      If we have to put every penny of our budget into landing Haaland, or Mbappe we could still land 2 or 3 tip players on frees.

      For example Jerome Boateng and Julian Draxler are out of contract this summer.

      Wow, Draxler. I remember before he went to PSG we were rumored in for him. Looks like we should be happy it didn't work out.

      Alaba is also on a free, though expected to sign with Real for what i understand.
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      Reply #7: Mar 11, 2021 04:56:01 pm
      Wow, Draxler. I remember before he went to PSG we were rumored in for him. Looks like we should be happy it didn't work out.

      Alaba is also on a free, though expected to sign with Real for what i understand.

      Agreed. Draxler and Boateng would be extremely average in the PL. The type of players I'd expect Arsenal to sign.

      We should be looking at real talent like Neto, Raphinha, Grealish.
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      Reply #8: Mar 11, 2021 05:14:47 pm
      They have not played under Klopp.

      Lot of whingers about when Shaq signed.

      Anyway dont worry we have not signed them or no talk of signimg them they are just examples of whats out there for free
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      Reply #9: Mar 11, 2021 05:38:56 pm
      They have not played under Klopp.

      Lot of whingers about when Shaq signed.

      Anyway dont worry we have not signed them or no talk of signimg them they are just examples of whats out there for free

      Shaq hasn't exactly been a success here mate, and will be sold in the Summer for sure.

      I think we have genuine interest in Raphinha and I'd be very surprised if we don't make a bid for him he's a top quality player.

      As for freebies Depay is out of contract in June he might be worth a punt.
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      Reply #10: Mar 11, 2021 06:03:50 pm
      The player I'd love for us to get is Ødegaard, who's currently at Arsenal, massive potential player who will only get better and better. He grew up a Liverpool fan as well.
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      Reply #11: Mar 11, 2021 06:12:35 pm
      The player I'd love for us to get is Ødegaard, who's currently at Arsenal, massive potential player who will only get better and better. He grew up a Liverpool fan as well.

      He's a Real player on loan at Arsenal but was supposed to be a future superstar that so far hasn't happened.
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      Reply #12: Mar 11, 2021 11:06:55 pm
      Neto would be an ideal player 2 footed and very fast
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      Reply #13: Mar 12, 2021 01:56:44 am
      Wow, Draxler. I remember before he went to PSG we were rumored in for him. Looks like we should be happy it didn't work out.

      Had Jürgen had his way he would of had Draxler instead of Salah. Draxler turned us down, Edwards recommended Salah.
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      Reply #14: Mar 12, 2021 03:31:13 am
      Had Jürgen had his way he would of had Draxler instead of Salah. Draxler turned us down, Edwards recommended Salah.

      I do remember he turned us down, but thought it was Brandt we wanted to get instead of Salah?
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      Reply #15: Mar 12, 2021 05:59:13 am
      Had Jürgen had his way he would of had Draxler instead of Salah. Draxler turned us down, Edwards recommended Salah.

      It was Brandt
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      Reply #16: Mar 12, 2021 11:54:20 am

      Thank heavens for Edwards.
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      Reply #17: Mar 12, 2021 12:45:49 pm
      He's a Real player on loan at Arsenal but was supposed to be a future superstar that so far hasn't happened.

      It will happen, I'd love for it to be at this club
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      Reply #18: Mar 12, 2021 12:51:52 pm
      I do remember he turned us down, but thought it was Brandt we wanted to get instead of Salah?

      Yeah it was, bloody drugs!! ;)
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      Reply #19: Mar 12, 2021 01:33:20 pm
       Gravenberch influential again last night.

      I know Ill be whipped for this, but I think id rather sign him over anyone, including Haaland
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      Reply #20: Mar 13, 2021 02:32:43 pm
      Gravenberch influential again last night.

      I know Ill be whipped for this, but I think id rather sign him over anyone, including Haaland

      You will be whipped mate. We need a goalscorer a hell of a lot more than another CM.
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      Reply #21: Mar 13, 2021 04:43:15 pm
      Aside from the Haaland and Mbappe talk what striker should be considered?
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      Reply #22: Mar 13, 2021 04:44:42 pm
      Aside from the Haaland and Mbappe talk what striker should be considered?

      Joao Felix and Pulisic are 2 that come to mind right away. Not sure if Felix would even be available, though, but Pulisic cannot be happy at Chelsea and could push for a move.
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      Reply #23: Mar 13, 2021 04:46:48 pm
      A couple seasons ago Isak of Dortmund was very highly thought of but since has gone to Real Sociedad and not sure where his status is today in terms of potential vs bust.
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      Reply #24: Mar 13, 2021 04:46:49 pm
      Joao Felix and Pulisic are 2 that come to mind right away. Not sure if Felix would even be available, though, but Pulisic cannot be happy at Chelsea and could push for a move.

      Is Felix not more of a 10 then a striker?
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      Reply #25: Mar 13, 2021 04:48:46 pm
      Is Felix not more of a 10 then a striker?

      Well, being at Atletico he's probably more of a DM than striker, but i thought he was/is a front-3 type of player being able to play both wing and centrally.
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      Reply #26: Mar 13, 2021 04:51:54 pm
      Well, being at Atletico he's probably more of a DM than striker, but i thought he was/is a front-3 type of player being able to play both wing and centrally.

      Good shout on Isaik, not outstandung nymbers but hes the type I think can grow into a giant under Klopp.

      Anyone watch much German football? Silva at Frankfurt seems to be banging goals in. Worth a punt?
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      Reply #27: Mar 14, 2021 01:34:27 pm
      Paulo Dybala.

      Would he bring us up a level or more of the same?
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      Reply #28: Mar 14, 2021 03:48:51 pm
      Paulo Dybala.

      Would he bring us up a level or more of the same?

      Can't even get in the Juve team, so don't know what he's bringing here!!
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      Reply #29: Mar 14, 2021 04:20:23 pm
      Can't even get in the Juve team, so don't know what he's bringing here!!

      Not getting in a team doesnt make ye sh*te. Some managers fancy some players and not others
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      Reply #30: Mar 14, 2021 04:28:22 pm
      Not getting in a team doesnt make ye sh*te. Some managers fancy some players and not others

      Yeah but he's been hyped for a while and still waiting for him to do something of note. Safe to say we won't be buying him
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      Reply #31: Mar 14, 2021 05:15:40 pm
      Yeah but he's been hyped for a while and still waiting for him to do something of note. Safe to say we won't be buying him

      Bit of linkage to him today. Depending on what kind of cash involved I wouldnt say no, think hed add that Coutinho style player
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      Reply #32: Mar 20, 2021 03:17:42 pm
      Read an article stating that we want to sign a striker to compliment what we already have, not sign a superstar.

      So would Andre Silva fit that bill?

      In 49 bundesliga games hes scored 32 goals for Eintracht Frankfurt. Thats some going. 25 years old
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      Reply #33: Mar 20, 2021 05:15:10 pm
      Read an article stating that we want to sign a striker to compliment what we already have, not sign a superstar.

      So would Andre Silva fit that bill?

      In 49 bundesliga games hes scored 32 goals for Eintracht Frankfurt. Thats some going. 25 years old

      Scored another 2 today think he is on 21 or 22 in the league
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      Reply #34: Mar 20, 2021 05:28:11 pm
      Scored another 2 today think he is on 21 or 22 in the league

      serious strike rate that to be fair
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      Reply #35: Mar 20, 2021 11:46:27 pm
      Just checked and the Funny thing is he and Haaland are both on 21 goals
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      Reply #36: Mar 25, 2021 04:38:11 pm
      Be interested to see what 5 signings each person thinks are our most realistic this summer

      Mine

      1) Kabak ( loan to permanent)

      2)  Sander Berge

      3) Paston Daka

      4) Ezequiel Garay

      5) Paulo Dyabala
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      Reply #37: May 23, 2021 09:48:23 pm
      Kane would be too costly imo. we are going through pandemic and i wont blame the owners if they dont spend 100m on one signing.
      There are alot of players out there who can improve our first team.

      How about Depay, can we make him Mo nr 2? He is showing again why the scum spent so much on him. JK could get the best out of him.

      Saw couple of Betis games, and Nabil Fekir is still hell of a player. Would love to see him play for us. Think he would improve his stats alot with us.

      Barca need money and they are desperate to add to their squad without having funds. this could be our chance to rob them of their biggest young talents atm. Pedri or Fati. Dont see it happening but with their debts, they could let one go.

      anybody doing well in championship, a young talent who can get into our team?

      btw Dybala is a good shout. depends how much he will cost. He is a excellent player. We talk about flamboyant player who have that magical spark to open defences in live match threads. Dybala has that.

      I would love another Norwegian in the team after the legend Riise. Haaland is too expensive imo, Berge isnt all that and i dont think he is good enough for LFC. Ødegård is the way to go, if we can land him. He is a great talent and a liverpool fan.
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      Reply #38: May 23, 2021 10:26:20 pm
      Gravenberch was good against us, in fact the best player on the park in one of the games, and he's what, 18?

      Problem is he wouldn't get into our side at the mo and bringing him in to sit on the bench is pointless, might as well leave him where he is to develop. Tempting to wing Ajax £1m for first option on a future transfer though, looks a classy kid.

      We are short in midfield without Gini. Fabinho Tremenderson and Thiago is a nice core, plus we need to build a path for Curtis, but that's only 4 players.

      A centre mid is the absolute priority for me, assuming Konaté is done and dusted.

      I could cope with a Gini-level CM and Konaté.

      I don't think we can get another forward unless one of Mo, Bobby or Sadio goes. It's going to be hard enough keeping those 3 and Jota happy with enough games for each of them. Nobody likes being left out. Sadio will chuck his dummy even more if he gets even less games. 4 players for 3 positions is fine.

      For year after year after year we've needed at least 3 players (sometimes 11) to improve the first XI every summer, but we are reaching the borders of what can reasonably be achieved for a club without limitless funds.

      If we were going to try to improve the first XI then for me it's Bobby's position, but that would mean sellng him I'm pretty sure. Improving the first XI now means being absolutely ruthless. I just can't see us getting anyone in unless Mo Bobby or Sadio actually ask to leave.

      So Konaté, please, to effectively replace Matip (who we really need to consider a long-term injury write-off and if he's fit for a few weeks it's a bonus) and another CM, either a brilliant young kid ike Gravenberch or maybe someone like this Neuhaus lad who I've never seen but may be good enough for rotation purposes to give Henderson and Thiago the occasional battery recharge.

      If we can't realistically improve the first Xi, we can at least begin to rejuvenate it before they draw their pensions.
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      Reply #39: May 23, 2021 10:31:59 pm
      Gravenberch was good against us, in fact the best player on the park in one of the games, and he's what, 18?

      Problem is he wouldn't get into our side at the mo and bringing him in to sit on the bench is pointless, might as well leave him where he is to develop. Tempting to wing Ajax £1m for first option on a future transfer though, looks a classy kid.



      I dont thinl hes moving, his dad, not sure if hrs the agent, said recently he sees no point leaving Ajax yet.

      Hope we keep n eye though, defo a big name for the future
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      Reply #40: May 24, 2021 02:36:27 pm
      I dont thinl hes moving, his dad, not sure if hrs the agent, said recently he sees no point leaving Ajax yet.

      Hope we keep n eye though, defo a big name for the future
      Maybe a buy and loan back deal? These next couple seasons I can see him going on and becoming a real star.
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      Reply #41: May 24, 2021 02:59:24 pm
      There are a few possibilities that can be looked at, Gravenberch, despite what daddy says can be moulded for the future, Chucking £3/4m at Ajax might be persuasive,

      Raphinha at Leeds caught my eye, he excels on the left and could link up nicely with Robbo & Mane, in the same way Trent Thiago & Mo do on the right,

      Odegaard at Arsenal, another young up and coming starlet, he would be a nice fit too, but one for the future,

      Yves Bissouma, he could be moulded into the Fabinho role, he’s quick, strong and powerful, and a big unit to get past,

      Jadon Sancho, already pulling trees up at Dortmund a very fine addition imo and stealing a March on other pursuers, he’s good now, but after a month or two with Jürgen & Pep Ljinders, we’d have a worldly,

      Lamptey at Brighton is one I’d be very keen in bringing in, and proper competition for Trent, sorry, but Neco just isn’t the one for me, he’s young yet I get that, but so was Trent, Neco by now should be given Jürgen something to think about, make him scratch his head, he doesn’t, Lamptey will ?

      Billy Gilmour, yes he’s at Chavs but I’m not so sure Tuchel is so keen as was Lampard, unlikely but I’d be keeping tabs on him

      Anyone for Grealish? Like Kane at Spuds, he’ll want to win stuff, Villa’s ‘player of the year’ will start to wear thin on him eventually and like Sancho we could make him a worldly,

      Finally, Tielemans at Leicester, I like this fella, he’s cool, good football brain, can pass, eye of a needle stuff, put it on a sixpence from one corner quadrant to the other, diagonally, and he can score too, very good replacement for Gini, offer him CL football and he’d bite yer hand off, Rogers would be pissed, but f**k him,

      Out of those above, I’d want ready to run experience premiership players, so for this summer I’d go for Raphinha, Bissouma & Tielemans, Lamptey, Raphinha for options left side and to rest Mane, Bissouma as back up to Fabinho, and Tielemans as Gini’s replacement, Lamptey to give competition and rest for Trent,

      These are of a age where we can build for the future, they are all under 25 so plenty of miles on the clock, we also have Curtis Jones and wee Harvey Elliot already here and by all accounts the conveyor belt at the academy will be fruitful with one or two with real potential already training with the first team.




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      Reply #42: May 25, 2021 07:54:26 pm
      So anyway...

      Dele Alli is available and he used to idolise Stevie G

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      Reply #43: May 25, 2021 08:27:26 pm
      According to The Athletic (so reasonably reliable):
      "Ruben Neves will be allowed to leave Wolves for just £35 million this summer."

      We should be all over that. A long time target available at a cut=price fee.

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      Reply #44: May 25, 2021 09:20:58 pm
      According to The Athletic (so reasonably reliable):
      "Ruben Neves will be allowed to leave Wolves for just £35 million this summer."

      We should be all over that. A long time target available at a cut=price fee.



      Saw that. I was surprised. I would have said in this market £35m is not exactly cut price. Good player though. Instalments and add-ons maybe?

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